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Earlier, Markos wrote about a June 2010 clip from Glenn Beck's show in which Beck told his audience that Democrats like Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi had used progressive revolutionaries to gain power and that the only way to stop them would be to "shoot them in the head."

Beck's words were such an obvious incitement to violence that it's hard to believe Fox ever allowed them on the air. But the fact is that they did, and the full context of Beck's remarks make it clear that he meant every word to be taken literally.

As you'll see from the video, which I've posted below along with the full transcript, Beck delivers his monologue in front a Swastika that he'd put on his chalkboard earlier in the program. Beck argues that Democrats have risen to power by cynically leveraging the efforts of progressive revolutionaries who are plotting to overthrow the American government. Together they form an unholy alliance that threatens America's very existence, Beck says.

So who are the members of this unholy alliance? Beck put their names on his chalkboard: Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Cass Sunnstein, Van Jones, Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Jeff Jones, Jodi Evans, Andy Stern, Michael Moore, Bill Maher, and -- I kid you not -- Rosie O'Donnell. The only way to stop their plot, Beck says, is to "shoot them in head" before they "shoot you."

You can watch the full video here (the transcript is below the fold):

It's worth noting that this wasn't the first time Beck told his audience that the only way to stop their political opponents was through violence. In 2009, he compared President Obama to a bloodsucking vampire, and said the only way to stop him would be to "drive a stake through the heart."

It's bad enough that Fox gives Beck a platform to spew his paranoid conspiracy theories, but the fact that they look the other way when he explicitly calls for violent action against political enemies is truly outrageous. It's one thing to put a partisan hack like Hannity on the air. That's just politics. But broadcasting a paranoid lunatic who openly calls for violence crosses far beyond any recognizable line of decency, even for Fox.

Full transcript:

You want to know why TV doesn't reflect you? You want to know why Washington doesn't reflect you? Because they don't understand, from the radical revolutionaries to the Islamic extremists and yes, DOJ, they do exist to the tea party movements.

Just because you in Washington and you who are so out of touch with life in the media, just because you don't believe in something doesn't mean nobody else does. We do. You know why you're confused by this show? It's because I believe in something. You don't.

Tea parties believe in small government. We believe in returning to the principles of our Founding Fathers. We respect them. We revere them. Shoot me in the head before I stop talking about the Founders. Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government.

I will stand against you and so will millions of others. We believe in something. You in the media and most in Washington don't. The radicals that you and Washington have coopted and brought in wearing sheep's clothing change the pose. You will get the ends.

You've been using them? They believe in communism. They believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.

They are dangerous because they believe. Karl Marx is their George Washington. You will never change their mind. And if they feel you have lied to them -- they're revolutionaries. Nancy Pelosi, those are the people you should be worried about.

Here is my advice when you're dealing with people who believe in something that strongly you take them seriously. You listen to their words and you believe that they will follow up with what they say.

Didn't we learn that lesson from Osama Bin Laden? I heard his warning in 1998. I said on the air at the time, listen to him. We didn't listen. Germany, the revolutionaries in Russia or Venezuela or Cuba no, no, no. They all have one thing in common. They have all called for revolution.

They want to overthrow our entire system of government, and their words say it. Why won't you believe it?

As you will learn on "Founding Fridays(sic)," this Friday, we're talking about James Madison. Here is what you will learn. The revolution of 1776 was a picnic compared to what the revolutionaries of today would like to do. It's not a lot of fun. Usually, millions of people die.

But I'm glad to see our politicians will co-opt those people so they can have power. Fundamental transformation. It's what America is going through right now. And the progressives, the Marxist revolutionary progressives are still not happy. I'm going to show you the beginning of that civil war inside the Democratic Party, next.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 08:46 AM PST.

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  •  Echo chamber (20+ / 0-)

    (echo chamber)  (echo chamber)

    I'm not afraid of guns! I'm afraid of the people that obsess over owning them.

    by Detroit Mark on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 08:47:23 AM PST

  •  The problem is not Glenn Beck (50+ / 0-)

    The problem is that there is a powerful corporation (Newscorps) seeking to incite violence, terrorism and political instability.

    Stupidity has a knack of getting its way-Albert Camus

    by beltane on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 08:49:40 AM PST

  •  I am so glad I am not glen beck . (13+ / 0-)

    "brutes have risen to power, but they lie!" Charlie Chaplin

    by indycam on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 08:50:29 AM PST

  •  I've never even heard of Dohrn, Jeff Jones, Evans (2+ / 0-)
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    wader, Stroszek

    or Stern.

    They tortured people to get false confessions to fraudulently justify our invading Iraq.

    by Ponder Stibbons on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 08:50:33 AM PST

    •  the point of picking out obscure people (16+ / 0-)

      is that:

      (a) it lets conspiracy nuts think they're in on a secret which adds some excitement and importance to their pathetic, empty lives

      (b) there's not a lot of public information about them, so you can fill in the copious blanks with your own imagination

      Andy Stern is a major labor leader, though some might chuckle at the notion that he counts as a "progressive revolutionary."

    •  google them (0+ / 0-)

      these are not mainstream people but are familiar to a certain hardcore group in this country.

    •  Bernadine Dohrn (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Debby, PsychoSavannah

      was a member of the Weather underground in the 60's and since then got a law degree and has become a leading academic on family and immigration law, who teaches in the law school at Northwestern University.  She runs a legal clinic focusing on children - including unaccompanied immigrant children who need legal representation to determine the best interests of the child.  

      Her work is not especially radical.  Beck hates her because he is a conspiracy nut and thinks that former 60's radicals form some underground cabal influencing President Obama.  Bill Ayers is Bernadine Dorn's husband and both are Obama's neighbors in Chicago. Stroszek is also exactly correct that focusing on someone like Bernadine Dorhn lets all the idiots out there feel like they have special knowledge.  

      I know her, not well, but she's a nice enough woman who is hardly a revolutionary, and who has devoted her life to education and public service.  It would be tragic if some Beck-inflamed idiot tries to hurt her or Bill Ayers.  Beck's engaged in a sick sort of intimidation - neither of these two individuals are easily spooked, and both built solid academic careers well within the mainstream of American thought and life.  To target them this way is criminal.

      "Die Stimme der Vernuft ist leise." (The voice of reason is soft)

      by ivorybill on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 10:10:47 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Stern is a union guy (0+ / 0-)

      SEIU, I think. The purple campaign, bridge to healthcare, etc. leaps to mind when I hear his name. Seems like a good guy. Beck is not a good guy. I can see why he has a problem with him.

      http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/11/13/12248/728 Shop dKos!

      by Debby on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 04:57:39 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Rosie O'Donnell's variety show was pretty bad (10+ / 0-)

    Not "enemy of the state" bad but pretty close.

    •  You know - Actually Rosie, Van, George (11+ / 0-)

      These individuals should sue him for defamation and slander.

      They are not elected officials - but private citizens and the slander is associating them with trying to overthrow the government - not associated with their known careers.

      Takin it to the streets....Doobie Brothers

      by totallynext on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 08:54:24 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  yes, but is Beck sane enough to stand trial? (6+ / 0-)

        I'm not so sure.

      •  They are "Public Figures" though. (0+ / 0-)

        There is a narrow line there.

        Don't make me meta. You wouldn't like me when I meta.

        by mungley on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:20:08 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  no - public figures can sue - they do all the tim (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          mungley, JamieG from Md

          the test is impact to their reputation.

          Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image. It is usually a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant).[1]

          Special rules apply in the case of statements made in the press concerning public figures, which can be used as a defense. A series of court rulings led by New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964) established that for a public official (or other legitimate public figure) to win a libel case, the statement must have been published knowing it to be false or with reckless disregard to its truth, (also known as actual malice).

          thanks to wiki

          Takin it to the streets....Doobie Brothers

          by totallynext on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:33:36 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  Great. There's still a noarrow line, as described (0+ / 0-)

            in your post.

            the statement must have been published knowing it to be false or with reckless disregard to its truth,

            Because Beck uses the 'entertainment' defense or the "satire" defense, the line is narrow concerning public figures.

            Beck's call to violence is clearly beyond the pale. I am suggesting that If his defense works against the President or the Speaker of the House it would very likely work against other persons in the public eye.

            Yo may have misunderstood my post: I did not say that public figures can not sue for libel. I said that there is a narrow line.

            Peace.

            Don't make me meta. You wouldn't like me when I meta.

            by mungley on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:42:00 AM PST

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          •  the SLAPP suit is not intended (0+ / 0-)

            to win but to intimidate:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/...
            So even people with no standing can file suit and intimidate someone with limited financial resources to fight the suit

  •  Doesn't this fit the FIRE test? (10+ / 0-)

    Just saying

    Takin it to the streets....Doobie Brothers

    by totallynext on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 08:51:50 AM PST

  •  Beck (11+ / 0-)

    is he our radio Rwanda? What measures would be justified to stop a radio Rwanda situation?

  •  Diogenes' T-Shirt (6+ / 0-)

    I looked for an
    honest man
    and all I got was
    this lousy
    Glen Beck.

    That's understandable when I realize that I can't feel my body.

    by prodigal on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 08:52:42 AM PST

  •  In a word: DIS-GUS-TING! (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    RustyCannon, FiredUpInCA

    "Integrity is the lifeblood of democracy. Deceit is a poison in its veins." Senator Edward M. Kennedy

    by psusennes on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 08:53:13 AM PST

  •  The problem is the whole atmosphere (27+ / 0-)

    of permission being given to the extremists on the right to blab loudly in public, interrupt any private conversation with their nonsense, and infect their family and friends with fact-free propaganda.

    It has been going on ever since Limpbaugh started spewing on the radio and there are now people in their 30's and 40's who don't remember the public dialogue ever being any other way.

    You don't have to watch Focksnooze or listen to the radio to be infected by it.

    Suddenly I've changed from being a social liberal/fiscal conservative to sanctimonious purist.

    by RustyCannon on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 08:53:48 AM PST

  •  Can a class action suit be brought against BECK? (5+ / 0-)

    And against Fox News/Murdoch for inciting to violence
    against citizens of the United States?

  •  I really don't expect any better from Fox. (11+ / 0-)

    But it bothers me very much that apparently we are the only ones who find his rhetoric alarming.

  •  Giffords on her way to Texas for rehab. (4+ / 0-)
  •  Then he sents his fans emails (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    historys mysteries

    playing the victim:

    December 16, 2010

    Critics lining up to stop Glenn Beck are failing miserably

    All of the people lining up to attack Glenn seem to share one commonality: massive failure. They have so much trouble because they are basing their attacks not on truth but on politics. Case-in-point: the latest critics who are attacking Glenn over Wilmington. How do you attack charity work? Find out on The Blaze. Plus check out this FREE clip from radio.

    Fareed Zakaria double downs on his stupidity

    After attacking Glenn and getting crushed by the facts, Zakaria went on TV yet again to do an interview and revealed his true feelings: The main problem with America - all those darn Americans! Glenn plays the audio of Zakaria destroying his own career on radio today. ( Transcript, Insider Audio)

  •  In many ways (9+ / 0-)

    the language on AM hate radio has been even more jacked up in the last two weeks which I do not believe is without design or intent.

  •  so what are we gonna do about it (7+ / 0-)

    wait until a "lunatic" shoots someone on the list?

    Yeah, I'm pitchfork mad like that.

    by lisastar on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 08:59:20 AM PST

    •  That's what I'd like to know- (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      PsychoSavannah, lisastar

      what is it going to take to stop it? The continued highlighting of it here, does nothing to stop it.

      Sadly what I see locally & I imagine nationally, is many people in the 50+ age group (baby boomers) being laid off, and not being able to participate in the American Dream they imagined for their retirement.  They are now ripe picking for Faux & AM radio, and voted in the last election.  

      On the other hand, People defend what they value.

      So how do we both defend our values and destroy the creditability of those who prey on others unhappiness?  

      I don't have the answers, but I do know that continuing to report every outrageous trick and tweet of those who profit from a message of ridicule and hate, will not solve anything.

      Notice how in the recent 'repeal ObamaCare' vote EVERY House Repig sang the same song. Many of us are unhappy with one aspect or another of the Democrats & Pres Obama, but we have got to get our act together better and be united.

      The WH and the current Dem Chair need to look to themselves for some serious introspection & house cleaning on the lack of unity.  Why has the continued demonization of Nancy Pelosi, not been pushed back on (it's been going on for years)?  Nobody seems to have anyone's back.

  •  Oh, c'mon! (31+ / 0-)

    Everybody knows "Shoot them in the head" is just a charming colloquialism for "Vote them out of office."  As is "Firebomb their house."  If you weren't an illegal immigrant you'd understand that English is full of those sorts of colorful expressions.

    Let's lighten up, people!  I mean, it's not like someone's actually going around shooting congresspeople or anything!

    Friggin' liberals.  Always stirrin' up trouble.

    When you punch enough holes through steerage, the first-class cabins sink with the rest of the ship.

    by Roddy McCorley on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 08:59:30 AM PST

  •  How do you recommend a diary? (0+ / 0-)

    In the past, it was easy.  But I see no way to recommend this diary. ????

    I worked for the Nader presidential campaign in 2000. I'm so sorry!

    by NYLefty on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:00:36 AM PST

  •  If more people get shot in the head, (5+ / 0-)

    will continuing to just complain about this kind of program on a blog still be seen as the best that can be done?

    Moderation in most things. Except Reactors. IFR forever!

    by billmosby on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:01:28 AM PST

  •  There's Only One Solution For Beck (0+ / 0-)

    And that's to have him star in a bukkake video with about 100 sweaty and porcine men. Not that I would really want to watch a video like that but I'd be willing to make that sacrifice out of a sad, morbid curiosity.

    These head movies make my eyes rain.

    by The Lone Apple on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:01:33 AM PST

  •  Petition to Beck advertisers:Color of Change (4+ / 0-)

    "If you're in a coalition and you're comfortable, you know it's not a broad enough coalition" Bernice Johnson Reagon

    by Denise Oliver Velez on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:03:40 AM PST

  •  How many times has this been posted? (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    PinHole, jan4insight

    We all know Beck is a moron, so why is this site posting this over and over? Or am I mistaken in this?

    ~~~~ Where ignorance is our master, there is no possibility of real peace. - Dalai Lama

    by kimoconnor on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:03:41 AM PST

  •  ironic how someone (8+ / 0-)

    ended up "shot in the head".


    Words have power.

    especially when delivered with hate and venom.


    Another person, incited by by Beck's spell,
    nearly shot up "the liberals" at the tide foundation too.

    Enough.


    I dream of things that never were  -- and ask WHY NOT?
    -- Robert F. Kennedy

    by jamess on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:03:46 AM PST

    •  the things he exposed that blew my mind (7+ / 0-)

      so says the would-be assassin:

      Did Glenn Beck's rhetoric inspire violence?
      By Brad Knickerbocker, csmonitor.com, Staff writer -- October 16, 2010

      Fox News commentator Glenn Beck, who’s honed being provocative – even outrageous at times – to a fine and lucrative art, is the focus of criticism for inciting violence.

      Specifically, his dozens of comments attacking the Tides Foundation are being linked to the attempt by a heavily-armed man to assassinate employees at the San Francisco-based foundation, which funds environmental, human rights, and other progressive projects. The attack in July was thwarted in a shoot-out with police in which two officers were wounded.

      Since then, alleged attacker Byron Williams has said in jailhouse interviews that he wanted to "start a revolution." He says Beck was not the direct cause of his turning violent. But he does say: "I would have never started watching Fox News if it wasn't for the fact that Beck was on there. And it was the things that he did, it was the things he exposed that blew my mind."

      At various times, Beck has referred to Tides as "bullies" and "thugs" whose mission is to "warp your children's brains and make sure they know how evil capitalism is." More recently, Beck (who describes himself as a "progressive hunter") has warned the foundation "I’m coming for you."

      Shouting "Fire" in a Crowded America


      I dream of things that never were  -- and ask WHY NOT?
      -- Robert F. Kennedy

      by jamess on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:08:44 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  The problem with Fox is they are so craven.... (5+ / 0-)

    for their "blood money" in terms of viewership, they will do anything to keep those ratings up and churning in the dollars.
    That's why they have irresponsible idiots like Palin, Beck, and O'Reilly who will do anything too for money and power for themselves.
    Fuck responsibility.

    •  Murdoch (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      coral, PinHole, jan4insight

      and Ailes are more than willing to run Fox News at a loss if it serves their larger goal of gaining political power. There's much more money in redistributing wealth upwards by taking power than there is in selling ads on a relatively small TV network.

      What would Toshiro Mifune do?

      by Red Bean on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:54:40 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  It is really disgusting that nothing (6+ / 0-)

    can be done about getting him off the air.  Some of those named would do well to get body-guards. In fact anyone with a similar name is in danger.

    "The United States should have a foundation free from the influence of clergy."Thomas Jefferson (also attributed to George Washington and John Adams)

    by regis on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:05:21 AM PST

  •  What pisses me off... (6+ / 0-)
    ..is the more it is revealed that Glenn Beck is a dangerous psychopath, the more Beck & Fixed News doubles down.

    Meanwhile, Beck's "media equal," Keith Olbermann, goes on an apology jag so acute,  its on the precipice of ruining his show.

    Keith (for example) drops 'Worst Person in the World' in order to appease false equivalence wonks like John Stewart.

    Meanwhile, Jon Stewart's relentless lampoons of Glenn Beck & Beck's employer force Beck & FOX to change nothing.

    In fact, the opposite happens:  Glenn Beck gets invited to appear on NBC's morning show, so  chatty Ken & Kathy can lend a hand in mainstreaming Beck.

    "Sure, Sarah Palin didn't pull the trigger. But then, neither did Charles Manson." - auntbeast via Pharyngula

    by wyvern on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:05:50 AM PST

  •  Maybe they should just hire Savage and Rush (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mungley, The Nose, Krush

    And Change their name to the HATE Network.

    Nobody believes that whole "fair and balanced" thing anyway.

    "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan

    by atlliberal on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:06:02 AM PST

  •  Beck Can Incite But Ordinary Americans Can't (13+ / 0-)

    We are starting to see ordinary Americans whose only crime is to post angry words on Facebook get brough up on criminal charges while those like Beck with an actual megaphone and the very real ability to sway their audience are allowed to actually attempt to incite violence. I don't want our Freedom of the Press curtailed, on the other hand it is clearly illigal and Unconstitutional to incite a violent overthrow of the government.

    As an example of ordinary people being prosecuted, a women was recently arrested for posting on her Facebook about a judge whose ruling against her she was unhappy with that someday somebody (and it won't be her) would shoot him for his terrible rulings. Sure it wasn't nice, but I don't think it amounts to a direct threat or incitement to voice  the opinion that he is leaving a trail of bad Karma. My first though was, if this women could be arrested for an angry comment on Facebook that hardly anybody would ever read, why aren't Beck, Limbaugh et al locked up for life?

    •  Another ordinary person (4+ / 0-)

      Police have seized a Boston-area comic book dealer's arsenal and suspended his gun license over a blog post that suggested other members of Congress and their aides should be targeted in the wake of the shooting of Arizona Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

      In a post titled "1 down, 534 to go," Travis Corcoran of Arlington, Mass., wrote: "It is absolutely, absolutely unacceptable to shoot 'indiscriminately'. Target only politicians and their staff, and leave regular citizens alone." The blog, TJICistan, is no longer accessible, but affiliates have emerged.

      "We certainly take this as a credible threat, and credible until we prove otherwise," said Arlington Police Capt. Robert Bongiorno. Officers confiscated a "large amount" of weapons and ammunition, he said, without offering specifics. A source told WBZ-TV 11 guns were taken.

      •  just a note here about cops' reporting (0+ / 0-)

        on materials seized: they count each bullet separately so when they seize an arsenal, they report a "large cache of ammo of over 200 rounds" for example without mentioning that is 4 boxes of rifle ammo or 10 boxes at most of HP rifle ammo, which would not be an extreme amount of ammo for a serious hunter to have on hand. While I have not fired a gun for more than 15 years, I am sure that a substantial amount of ammo could be found in my home if it were searched diligently  

      •  He's not ordinary. He's a walking (3+ / 0-)

        time bomb.

        The only difference between Beck, that woman and the guy is that Beck is getting paid handsomely by very influential people to spew his hatred.

        Don't make me meta. You wouldn't like me when I meta.

        by mungley on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:32:07 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  But he calls for violence against himself, (0+ / 0-)

    so it is balanced. Right?

    "We believe that the people are the source of all governmental power; that the authority of the people is to be extended, not restricted."-Barbara Jordan

    by sancerre2001 on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:06:20 AM PST

  •  In the immediate aftermath of the Giffords (9+ / 0-)

    Tucson shootings, why wasnt a video of BeKKKs violent rant circulated around the major networks political programs?

    Is this something the netroots is supposed to do?

    Is this something real journalists are supposed to do?

    The left went on the offensive following the shootings, drawing links to violent rhetoric from the right.

    But where were our examples?

    We here at Kos displayed multiple diaries with specific dates and the lives lost as a result of the rw lunacy.

    But I saw no graphics on tv illustrating the depth of rw violence.

    I saw no videos of BeKKK calling for the murder of our president.

    Why is this?

    America beckons. Americans repel.

    by A Runner on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:06:48 AM PST

  •  I wonder what can be done (4+ / 0-)

    to effectively prove to people that maybe watch him occasionally and don't realize the complete hatred and evil he spews. I know, probably not many of those people, but...
    emails showing videos like this and asking Do you wan to shoot me in the head?   Bring it to a personal level.
    I know some conservatives that perhaps would think about this differently if it was on a more this could be someone you know and like level, rather than the personalities that are easy to distance themselves from and despise.
    Maybe I am being naive to think someone might change their mind or might realize the hatred just isn't normal?

  •  Why Isn't Beck's House Stormed & Searched (4+ / 0-)

    Beck thought he was funny when he fantasized about poisoning Nancy Pelosi.

    Beck was "only joking" when he called for right-wing extremist Beckerheaded programmable idiots and knee jerk reactionary bigots and morons to use gun violence against liberals and "shoot them in the head".  

    Hilariously Funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Even funnier would be the FCC pulling all of Rupert Murdoch's FCC licenses and banning the right-wing piece of shit from any media venture, seeeing Beck and his enabler in maximum security prison cells for Hate Speech, and the rest of the ultraconservative propagandist concubine at Fox Noise permanently unemployable.

  •  Glenn Beck was right about one thing: (6+ / 0-)

    Here is my advice when you're dealing with people who believe in something that strongly you take them seriously. You listen to their words and you believe that they will follow up with what they say.

    He and his followers are dangerous.

    Obama stands with war profiteers, torturers, Wall Street, health insurance companies, Big PhARMA, Big Oil and Social Security-haters. Good at photo ops, though.

    by expatjourno on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:08:59 AM PST

  •  In total, how much is Murdoch's empire worth? (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    PsychoSavannah, Red Bean, FiredUpInCA

    Whatever the amount is, he should be sued for that amount for giving a platform for the worst of the worst.

  •  Slight correction:"Bernadine" Dorhn... (0+ / 0-)

    ...not Bernadette.
    Otherwise this is right on,rec'd.
    Perhaps you were thinking of Bernadette Devlin when you typed that?:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/...

  •  I can just bet what the righties... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    historys mysteries

    ...will say about this. The guy with Palin/Beck as his FB picture, frothing at the mouth if anyone counters or mocks him (like I did) I imagine will be in some sort of denial here. Shocking, I know!

  •  Can the FCC fine/sanction Fox for Beck's crap? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Sherri in TX

    Pity the poor McCainologist -- all his trowels and little brushes smell like poop.

    by Murphoney on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:13:44 AM PST

    •  From Slate (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Gooserock, PinHole

      Does the FCC have the authority to regulate HBO, MTV, and other cable channels that regularly show salacious fare?

      Not really, although it can try to use its clout to browbeat cable channels into better self-policing. The FCC's regulatory powers extend only to over-the-air broadcasters, who transmit their programs via the publicly owned spectrum. In order to obtain the FCC's permission to use slivers of that spectrum, broadcasters agree to abide by the commission's rules, which include indecency standards. Cable, on the other hand, travels to American homes via privately built and maintained hardware.

      http://www.slate.com/...

      •  Which is Why We Need to Nationalize the Cable (0+ / 0-)

        infrastructure and make it a public commons.

        The entire framers' and Constitutional relationship between government and communication is disastrous. The whole concept is insane, giving essentially unlimited freedom to the greatest powers on the planet to promote their agenda against all humanity.

        Every important issue is impossible to discuss reasonably before the mainstream inside this country because of the madness of this system, and with the global economy and climate change we could do much worse to the planet eventually than the worst dictatorships ever did.

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:33:00 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  And every printing press, cop[ier, and tin can? (0+ / 0-)

          You really hate freedom of speech and the press this much?

          Run from a knife, rush a gun.

          by ben masel on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:56:52 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  ??? (0+ / 0-)

            Money ain't speech -- unless you think shouting in a bullhorn to silence your opponents is "free speech".

            Gooserock may be impractical or may produce unintended consequences -- that's arguable -- but arguing that giving everyone equal access to the means of communication is "being against free speech" is just demagogic nonsense.

            If anything the position that a select few get to dominate the means of communications while the rest of us have to shut up and take it is "being against free speech".

            Unless you want to define "free speech" as the "freedom for the masters of the universe to tell the rest of us what to do". I guess like Madison meant it -- I'm sure he wasn't for free speech for the servants.

        •  No, we need to bust up the concentration... (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          PsychoSavannah, rainmanjr

          of media power that has occurred through mergers and acquisitions.

          We need a revolution of TRUSTBUSTERS to break up the huge media organizations and the banks too.  So much power has been ammassed by merging the individual organizations into top down controlled borgs.

          The borg has a master and it is his borg.

          I am here to represent the democratic wing of the Democratic Party. Roar louder!

          by Josiah Bartlett on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 10:07:17 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

      •  Reagan and the Bushes gutted the FCC (3+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Josiah Bartlett, PinHole, rainmanjr

        http://www.ibltv.org/

        site has links to national organizations

  •  I don't think partisan hacks (4+ / 0-)

    should be allowed to report 'news'

    sean hannity is just as dangerous as Beck imho

    but i'm old fashioned. i like news

    Sarah Palin is a self described Political Rogue. And she likes GUNS

    by Krush on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:14:26 AM PST

  •  Beck calling (0+ / 0-)
    the white porcelain teacup black.

    Denial is complicity.

    by Publius2008 on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:14:58 AM PST

  •  Are these the last gasp of a fading hate monger (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    FiredUpInCA

    As these kinds of fear mongers begin to loose their audience the obvious response is to try to create some attention with a manufactures outrage

    Disabled Viet Vet ret. My snark is worse than my bite

    by eddieb061345 on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:15:25 AM PST

  •  Remember this from right before the election? (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    rainmanjr, FiredUpInCA

    From TPM:

    A group trying to register voters in Houston received threats and emails containing racist slurs after being targeted by a local tea party group accusing it of "voter fraud."

    ...

    TMP has several of the emails:

    "You liberial scumbags should be hung by the neck in public ! We are on to your voter fraud. Keep it up you MOTHER F***ERS and you will soon be put down for a long dirt nap! Your nothing but a bunch of white guilt ridden assholes, NI***RS and greasy mexican sp**s! The WAR is comming and we are going to dispose of each and every one of you while we take OUR (White) nation back."

    (slurs redacted by the diarist)

     
    MORE here
    ---------------

    I don't know if they found who actually sent the emails.

    It does appear the Tea Party group in question was visited by Andrew Breitbart a few weeks earlier.

    Breitbart and Beck often beat the drum about so-called "voter fraud" and hijacked elections.

  •  the only difference (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    PsychoSavannah, LokiMom

    btw glenn beck and jared lee loughner is that glenn beck doesn't have to release his videos on youtube.

  •  WRONG (1+ / 0-)
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    Stroszek

    Why on EARTH do you even BEGIN to give Fox ANY credit for having ANY sense of decency?

    But broadcasting a paranoid lunatic who openly calls for violence crosses far beyond any recognizable line of decency, even for Fox.

    You're living in Na-Na Land if you actually believed that when you wrote it. Wake up.

  •  Megyn Kelly (4+ / 0-)

    Let me guess, Megyn Kelly hasn't seen this video either?

  •  Isnt he threatening the Presidnt of the U.S. (0+ / 0-)

    If  said I wanted to the the President and other Govt officers Id get a visit from the Secret Service.

    Disabled Viet Vet ret. My snark is worse than my bite

    by eddieb061345 on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:19:53 AM PST

  •  I think (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    tcrguy
    That Beck ate too much tuna and too much salmon.  He sounds like he might be suffering from mercury poisoning.
    •  or simply undiagnosed (0+ / 0-)

      functional schizophrenia. oh wait, it's all a facade because it's just for the ratings..

    •  more like a dry drunk (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      rainmanjr

      for people in the addiction recovery field, the consequences of Beck's alcohol and drug abuse are obvious

      •  He definetly has paranoia and obssessive disorder (0+ / 0-)

        Beck seems to genuinely have a fear of, and fixation on, Nazi's.  It also seems to have evolved into a seriously deranged and dangerous psychosis.  I think this is beyond the pale and he should be arrested for threatening the president and many others.  He can lie in his bunk and blather on about the Nazi's.

        "Put on your high-heeled sneakers/it's Party time" - Steely Dan.

        by rainmanjr on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 10:21:56 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  When and if fascism comes to America..Mr. Beck.. (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    ivorybill, PinHole, rainmanjr

    As  Yale Divinity School prof Halford Luccock said in 1938  (often mis-attributed to Sinclair Lewis):

    "When and if fascism comes to America it will not be labeled 'made in Germany"; it will not be marked with a swastika; it will not even be called fascism; it will be called, of course, 'Americanism".. The high-sounding phrase 'the American way' will be used by interested groups to cover a multitude of sins..such as lawless violence, tear gas and shotguns, denial of civil liberties. ..Never, probably, has there been a time when there was a more vigorous effort to surround social and international questions with such a fog of distortion and prejudice and hysterical appeal to fear".. - New York Times,  Sept 12, 1938

  •  they like swastikas (5+ / 0-)

    I'm relatively sure it's subliminal but I believe that's why the crazy side of the tea party is always waving around the 4 sevens. They feel an attraction to, excuse the expression, fascism and to the idea that a strong violent minority can impose their will through violence when demographics and historical trends are going against them.

    It's impossible to look at the still of Beck without seeing it as a fascist call to arms complete with swastika. While neo Nazis have recently siezed an entire German village I don't think we're closing in on fascism here, at least not in that form. But if it ever comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.

    If you didn't like the news today, go out and make some of your own.

    by jgnyc on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:22:13 AM PST

  •  There is no "line of decency" for FOX. (6+ / 0-)

    What would happen if Beck got a visit from the Secret Service?

    Rather, shouldn't his producer, Roger Ailes, or the President of the network or its owner, Rupert Murdoch, be held liable?

    Was Beck hoping to prompt a confrontation with law enforcement to ramp up violent retaliation from one of his more demented acolytes?

    What would happen if Beck's FOX program was canceled?

    These speculations are not haphazard. These are legitimate law enforcement concerns.

    But, notice: the elites have immunity.

    Is FOX fomenting violence?

    Or, does FOX now operate as a "relief valve" for the inherent violence that they have ramped up?

    Policies of 'looking forward without looking back' and refusing to prosecute incitement to violence have drawbacks.

    We are now entering the second phase of this propaganda evolution where incitement to violence is accepted as common political speech and the 'coin of the realm' in political dialogue.  

    The third phase will be massive violence itself, probably prompted by belated and ineffective efforts at repression.

    History repeats itself, and the powers that be are all too keenly aware of this evolution. It is intentional. I can only hope it will be avoided.

  •  What Decency? This Is Business. (2+ / 0-)
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    boran2, ezdidit

    Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
    Strictly business.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:29:34 AM PST

  •  I watched the video ... ugh (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    The Nose

    People like Pelosi want to
    "Overthrow government"

    Democrats have co-opt the
    "Marxist Progressive Revolutionaries"
    for the sake of power.

    "Karl Marx is our George Washington"

    WTF ???


    I just searched "Marxist Progressive"

    the hits are mostly from the FOB   (Followers of Beck)

    Example:

    AFL-CIO Joins Marxist/Progressive Get Out the Vote Alliance
    by Jeff Dunetz

    [...] Fresh from their recent wins, the unions are moving into building the base of Marxist, Communist and progressive voters, as evidenced by the AFL/CIO joining a get out the vote effort run by United for Peace and Justice, an origination established to promote an agenda which is both socialist and anti-war.

    The announcement the AFL-CIO move was made in People’s World a magazine for the Marxist and Communist movements in the United Sates:

       

    The AFL-CIO executive committee voted unanimously this morning to join One Nation, Working Together, a new national coalition of labor and civil rights groups that has as its purpose to "reorder America’s priorities by investing in the nation’s most valuable resource – its people." [...]

    http://biggovernment.com/...

    what planet do these Loons live on ?

    Oh Wait -- Planet Beck.


    I dream of things that never were  -- and ask WHY NOT?
    -- Robert F. Kennedy

    by jamess on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:30:26 AM PST

  •  Just another entertainer inciting violence (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    The Nose, JamieG from Md

    Just like Radio Mille Collines (Radio Rwanda):

    Initially, RTLM was not taken seriously by western governments and diplomats. Although RTLM clearly qualified as harmful and attacked even members of the diplomatic corps in Kigali, there was no decision to take forceful measures to silence it.

    The western donors limited themselves to making representations to President Habyarimana who responded by promising to look into it, but not taking any action. Both the French and the American ambassadors opposed any action against RTLM. The US Ambassador at the time claimed that it was the best radio for information and that its euphemisms were subject to many interpretations.

    As the then Canadian ambassador, Lucie Edwards, later said: "The question of Radio Mille Collines propaganda is a difficult one. There were so many genuinely silly things being said on the station, so many obvious lies, that it was hard to take it seriously... Nevertheless, everyone listened to it - I was told by Tutsis (sic) - in a spirit of morbid fascination and because it had the best music selection."

    Bringing the Guilty to Justice

    The process of bringing to justice those responsible for the broadcasts of RTLM is now well under way, though some are still at large. On 22 July, 1996 journalist Ferdinand Nahimana, described as the director of RTLM, was indicted by the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda. He was charged with genocide, conspiracy to commit genocide, direct and public incitement to commit genocide and crimes against humanity. The initial court appearance was made on 19 February 1997 and he pleaded not guilty. The trial of Nahimana and two others began on 21 Oct 2001.

    The indictment alleged that:

    In or around 1993, Ferdinand Nahimana and others planned and created RTLM S.A. RTLM was an integral part of RTLM S.A. RTLM operated within the territory of Rwanda during the time of the events alleged in the indictment. In addition to being involved in the creation of RTLM S.A, Ferdinand Nahimana was instrumental in the establishment of RTLM.

    Between 1 January 1994 and approximately 31 July 1994, RTLM was used to broadcast messages designed to achieve interethnic hatred and encourage the population to kill, commits acts of violence and persecutions against Tutsi population and others on political grounds.

    During this period, Tutsis and others were killed and suffered serious bodily or mental harm as the result of the RTLM broadcasts.

  •  Go after their advertisers in a novel way (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    LokiMom, bleeding heart, michelewln

    First read War on Error's Research Diary.  Second, search and discover the members of the Board of Directors for corporations which advertise on Fox, Rush and other radical right wing outlets who preach hate 24/7.  Here is War on Error's look at Freedom Group, but you can search for the Board of Directors of any company, find the board members, their interconnections and the like.

    Next, once the board members have been identified, find out what cities they live in.  DO NOT CALL THEM AT HOME OR THEIR OFFICES.  Next, if any of these board members live in your city, find your local progressive organization, do enough fund raising to buy a display ad in the OP-ED or Business section of their LOCAL NEWSPAPER, and juxtapose the hateful comments, the names of he Board Members, and ask the question "Why does your corporation sponsor this disgusting filth, and when will you stop?"  Identify the entire Board of Directors, even if they don't live in your city in hopes that it will get picked up in their local papers as news items, or put it up on YouTube, Facebook or the like.  The goal is to change the behavior of those who fund this filth, and to make Fox and other outlets, like Clear Channel lose money because they have no advertisers.  Money talks to these people, bs walks.

    Have our national progressive organizations like MoveOn, Progress for America and others buy full page ads in national newspapers like the WSJ, NYT, Boston Hearld, USA Today, put them up on GoogleAdSense or AdWords, make them feel totally beleagured, overwhelmed and averse to bad publicity, and pile the bad publicity on each and every of these advertisers until they pull their advertising on hate outlets.

    When they do, make sure everyone knows about it.  There are millions of progressives.  We have to quit passively accepting the BS of the right.  Present company excepted, as most of us here at Kos are activists already, but we need to use current technology, research tools to get this word out and make it spread in a viral fashion.

    Bullies hate being confronted, it is time to confront the media bullies on the right, their sponsors, and their platforms.  It is time to make the marketplace of ideas reject the haters and make them crawl back under their rocks.

    Republicans are like alligators. All mouth and no ears.

    by Ohiodem1 on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:32:18 AM PST

  •  Par for the course (0+ / 0-)

    With those nuts.

    "I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."

    by Futuristic Dreamer on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:32:26 AM PST

  •  Redstate's defense of this (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    The Nose

    I will stand against you and so will millions of others. We believe in something. You in the media and most in Washington don't. The radicals that you and Washington have coopted and brought in wearing sheep's clothing change the pose. You will get the ends.

    You've been using them? They believe in communism. They believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.

    They are dangerous because they believe. Karl Marx is their George Washington. You will never change their mind. And if they feel you have lied to them -- they're revolutionaries. Nancy Pelosi, those are the people you should be worried about.

    Redstate's defense of this is that the "you" is him speaking to Pelosi and the Democratic leadership and warning them about their "communist revolutionary" base, as opposed to him inciting the public at large to shoot Democratic congressmen. I suppose that is technically true in the context, but how the hell they defend literally anything else in this or the overall message here is beyond me.

    •  Isn't Redstate going down? (0+ / 0-)

      I thought their tech was outdated and they did not have the bucks to upgrade so they were riding off into the sunset, after lamenting to their readers about how much more lucre would help their cause and keep Redstate up and running.

      Or did I just dream this?  

    •  Beck's an idiot, but (0+ / 0-)

      you're right.  

      the "you" is him speaking to Pelosi and the Democratic leadership and warning them about their "communist revolutionary" base, as opposed to him inciting the public at large to shoot Democratic congressmen.

      His rant is basically warning Nancy Pelosi against communists.  

      If he's inciting anyone, it's certainly not the right, but the far left.

      Anyone who says that he is telling Tea Party folks to shoot Pelosi in the head is absolutely wrong.

      In the end, who cares?  He doesn't deserve our undivided attention.  

      By the way, this is not a defense of him, just a correct analysis of what he said.  Like I said earlier, he's an idiot.

      Incorrect analysis bugs me.

      •  Jed mischaracterized Beck's rant. He was talking (0+ / 0-)

        to the Left Elites.

        When I read it here on Kos yesterday I thought he was speaking to his audience but until I saw the clip on Countdown last night it didn't sink in that he was talking to the Dem elites. Beck was warning them about riding the wave of leftist and progressive activists - in other words, US.

        So we followers of the Powers That Be (Obama and his ilk) are all lovers of Communism and Socialism and such and we are steering the Dems in the wrong direction and if they want to save themselves from really f*cking up the country, they should shoot us in the head, but watch out we may shoot back?

        Project Much?

        Since when (in the last 40 years)have we espoused violent overthrow of the government. Can anyone tell me where the nearest leftwing militia is or where to sign up for the revolution fomenting Rainbow Nation? Didn't think so...

        However, I will grant that to the low information crowd not listening closely, their takeaway may be Shoot the left in the head and be aware those radical lefties might shoot back.

        "Reason is six-sevenths of treason," said one of his neighbors. "Intelligence is what the enemy uses," said another.

        by Misterpuff on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 12:21:46 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  No -- it's not a correct analysis, (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        eddieb061345

        because you assume that a rational message is intended, not a poetic invocation of words.

        He's not advancing an argument -- that's just a poetic form. He's repeating certain words in close conjunction, with some connecting words to make it sound good.

        Advertising doesn't advance an "argument" that you should analysis -- Miller really isn't a narrative about whether their beer "tastes great" OR is "less filling". They're just throwing words together repetitively to create an image in the mind of the listener -- to analyze it as if it were an argument in a book is completely wrong-headed.

    •  You miss the intent here (0+ / 0-)

      In the critical part of his rant he clearly says  

      But warning, they may shoot you!

      . When you watch the Video Beck is being very devious, this is his M.O. to leave the distinct impression that "Somebody" should be shot in the Head. Now if I were one of the "Troubled" types weve all been talking about I certainly could get the idea that beck was suggesting that the liberals are the targets and deserving to be shot, because they are encouraging and supporting the radicals.

      Disabled Viet Vet ret. My snark is worse than my bite

      by eddieb061345 on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 12:49:11 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  How to play dirty and get this viral (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    PsychoSavannah

    the clip has to be in a player without the Kos logo and no other context

    CRITICAL TO NOT DATE THE ITEM (SO IT APPEARS TO BE CURRENT)   It's not lying to not include date information, because otherwise its too easy to wave it away otherwise as 'before Tuscon'

    then just start mailing it to editors, email lists, etc. with a simple WTF ?

    most people dont pay close attention to this freak, but if this is the only clip they ever really watch/see/hear, it will have the desired effect....

    Once it makes a local news show or get under someone's skin, you are off and running.....
       

    Out of my cold dead hands

    by bluelaser2 on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:49:45 AM PST

  •  Janet Jackson's nipple (0+ / 0-)

    was dealt with swiftly and decisively.

    CBS and the FCC are still involved in court over the matter of the %550,000 fine.

    And this is less offensive to the community standard?

    There are federal laws that make it illegal to threatened the President, VP, Speaker etc. 18 USC Sec. 871

    § 871. Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    How Current is This?
    (a) Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

  •  why haven't the police arrested Beck? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    coral

    calling for shooting these dozen people in the head?


    80% of SUCCESS is JUST showing up

    Christina Taylor Green,RIP - Gun Control NOW

    by Churchill on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:58:07 AM PST

  •  Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Cass Sunnstein, (0+ / 0-)

    So who are the members of this unholy alliance? Beck put their names on his chalkboard: Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Cass Sunnstein, Van Jones, Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Jeff Jones, Jodi Evans, Andy Stern, Michael Moore, Bill Maher, and -- I kid you not -- Rosie O'Donnell. The only way to stop their plot, Beck says, is to "shoot them in head" before they "shoot you."


    80% of SUCCESS is JUST showing up

    Christina Taylor Green,RIP - Gun Control NOW

    by Churchill on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:59:09 AM PST

  •  Van Jones, Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, (0+ / 0-)

    So who are the members of this unholy alliance? Beck put their names on his chalkboard: Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Cass Sunnstein, Van Jones, Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Jeff Jones, Jodi Evans, Andy Stern, Michael Moore, Bill Maher, and -- I kid you not -- Rosie O'Donnell. The only way to stop their plot, Beck says, is to "shoot them in head" before they "shoot you."


    80% of SUCCESS is JUST showing up

    Christina Taylor Green,RIP - Gun Control NOW

    by Churchill on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 09:59:25 AM PST

  •  Jeff Jones, Jodi Evans, Andy Stern, (0+ / 0-)

    Jeff Jones, Jodi Evans, Andy Stern, Michael Moore, Bill Maher, and -- I kid you not -- Rosie O'Donnell.


    80% of SUCCESS is JUST showing up

    Christina Taylor Green,RIP - Gun Control NOW

    by Churchill on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 10:00:02 AM PST

  •  Michael Moore, Bill Maher and Rosie O'Donnell (0+ / 0-)


    80% of SUCCESS is JUST showing up

    Christina Taylor Green,RIP - Gun Control NOW

    by Churchill on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 10:00:41 AM PST

  •  13 people, Stunning, incite violenc? WTF? (0+ / 0-)

    where's the police?


    80% of SUCCESS is JUST showing up

    Christina Taylor Green,RIP - Gun Control NOW

    by Churchill on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 10:01:18 AM PST

  •  This is not a call to shoot Dems (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    billmosby, Lorpius Prime

    Sorry, wish it was, I'd love to be able to use this to discredit Beck, but it just ain't so.  At least from reading the transcript, he is telling the Democrats (like Pelosi) that they have made a Faustian bargain with radical Marxist revolutionaries, that they won't be able to "use" or control them because they are true believers , and therefore the only way to stop the unintended revolution will be for the Dems to shoot the radicals.

    "[W]e shall see the reign of witches pass over . . . and the people, recovering their true spirit, restore their government to its true principles." Jefferson

    by RenMin on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 10:02:42 AM PST

    •  You picked up on it. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      RenMin

      Apparently not many people here bothered to read it. I read the same thing in a previous diary some days ago and commented on it then and I don't remember getting any responses. But put  up a comment that assumes he did call for such and you get a lot of positive attention, sad to say. Well, this is a political emotional blog, after all.

      Moderation in most things. Except Reactors. IFR forever!

      by billmosby on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 10:17:47 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Indeed. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      RenMin

      Glad you said it first, was afraid I'd have to be the one to look like I was defending Beck.

      But after acknowledging that, I think it is fair to say that Beck's rant in this case is not very clear.  If you sit and think and pick it apart, you can divine his true intent.  But if you don't sit and think, it seems easy to misunderstand.  I usually see Beck praised for his communication skills, even if he uses them to nefarious purpose, but this is just a garbled mess.

      In any case, even if this isn't a smoking-gun actual incitement to violence, it's still an unfortunate example of violent rhetoric.

    •  You miss the intent here (0+ / 0-)

      In the critical part of his rant he clearly says  

         

      But warning, they may shoot you!

      When you watch the Video Beck is being very devious, but his intent was perfectly clear and that was to leave the distinct impression that "Somebody" should be shot in the Head. Now if I were one of the "Troubled" types we have all been talking about I certainly could get the idea from this rant that beck was suggesting that the liberals are the targets and deserving to be shot, because they are encouraging and supporting the radicals.

      Disabled Viet Vet ret. My snark is worse than my bite

      by eddieb061345 on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 12:57:56 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  And he was saying "You may get the (0+ / 0-)

        opportunity to become a martyr for our cause if and when they shoot you, you will get your fifteen minutes of fame posthumsly".

        He's identifying the targets, saying they should be murdered, and telling them it's ok to do suicide by cop.  Why is this man not in jail.  He is a media terrorist, pure and simple.

        Republicans are like alligators. All mouth and no ears.

        by Ohiodem1 on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 02:46:23 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  To take down Fux News, boycott Fux Sports. (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    PsychoSavannah

    Murdoch can afford losses on the "news'side indefinately. it's not enough to go after advertisers on the "News" channel if they continue to subsidize this crap through such programming as the "Super Bowl."

    Run from a knife, rush a gun.

    by ben masel on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 10:06:16 AM PST

  •  "Tiller the Baby Killer"... (0+ / 0-)

    "Shoot them in the head"...

    Fox news hit list inciting hate and terrorism in the United States.

    GOP: First they come for your jobs; Then they come for your healthcare; Then they come for your social security. You reap what you sow teabaggers

    by cyeko on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 10:08:28 AM PST

  •  Troubling no matter who you are. (0+ / 0-)

    I don't care who you are and I don't care what political persuasion you subscribe to.  This clip by Beck was inciteful.  It might have just been meant to be rhetoric...but, it didn't come across that way.  Gotta think that Beck should man up and apologize for it...and not just try to dumb it down by saying it was an analogy or anything else.

    Just out of character for Beck, though.  He has spent the past entire year advocating non-violence on his radio program.  WTF was he thinking?

  •  You know, I used to think Beck was simply a (1+ / 0-)
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    charlatan fleecing his audience for personal gain.  I still think that, but now I think there's something more.

    I think Beck gets off on his ability to influence listeners with ever more bizarre theories.  I think he knows he is inciting violence, and I think he hopes the violence will in fact result in a right wing revolution and that he can go down in history as being it's "father."  I think he's looking for a legacy.

    Of course, such an idiotic, outlandish idea would require a sociopathic megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur, so it is unlikely someone would fit that description.  Bullshit.  Unlikely or not, he fits it perfectly.

    The community of fools might be small if it were not such an accomplished proselytizer.

    by ZedMont on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 10:27:42 AM PST

  •  plenty more where that came from (1+ / 0-)
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    Beck and his crew agree on proper treatment of detainees in U.S. custody: "Shoot them in the head."

    http://www.youtube.com/...

    Feb. 16 Fox & Friends

    http://www.youtube.com/...

    Beck intimates Obama promised supporters he'd shoot all enemies in the head:

    http://www.youtube.com/...

    O'Reilly Says We Should Just Shoot KSM in the Head

    http://www.youtube.com/...

    O'Reilly asks Dobbs if Obama is the devil.

    http://www.youtube.com/...

    20 violent right-wing incidents in the last two years:

    http://crooksandliars.com/...

    Dream, that's the thing to do (Johnny Mercer)

    by plankbob on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 10:42:14 AM PST

  •  Persuasion... (0+ / 0-)

    ...research on the effect of word priming on future behavior. It turns out if you use words that have a double meaning, say like ones that are frequently used to describe violence, in an otherwise innocuous context, it turns out people will behave more aggressively for time later.

    Do we really need to spend so much time wondering what the long term consequences of repetition will yield?

    (-9,-9) pragmatic incrementalist :-P

    by Enterik on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 10:46:52 AM PST

  •  As much as I hate to admit it (0+ / 0-)

    It's easy to see how Beck is going to spin this. He'll say that he meant that  Democrats will have to shoot left wing revolutionaries they used to get elected in the head in order to stop them from shooting them first. His bullshit point being that Democrats are riding the tiger. Bullshit because it's the Republicans who used right wing radicals to get elected.

    Of course even if that's what he meant, it's wholly inappropriate use of violent rhetoric and fear mongering.  

    •  Finally... (0+ / 0-)

      It is obvious that is what he meant just watch the clip. If we can't get past the spin to see the truth of what is said how can we oppose it. Most of his clips are spun into a single line sound byte just like they do to Obama. Lets dig for the truth a little before we react so we don't seem so ignorant. Even though he works for FOX he would be fired if he "explicitly calls for violent action against political enemies"...

  •  Oh seriously? (0+ / 0-)

    Do you seriously believe he is calling for violence or would celebrate if violence were leveled against these people?  

    I am by no means a fan of violent rhetoric but you need to be out of touch with reality to think Beck's rant is actually calling on people to shoot other people in the head.  Have you ever heard how people talk about sports games?

  •  Beck is a real fascists (0+ / 0-)
    Did you notice the ever present swastica over his  shoulder
    •  ??? (0+ / 0-)

      Get real... We need to be educated here people. He is calling us fascists! Do you ever listen to what he really says? Almost everything he says is antithetical to fascism and accuses democrats of National Socialism (fascism)... How do we defend that? Thats what we should be talking about!

  •  I'm reminded of an Aesop's Fable (0+ / 0-)

    The trumpeter taken prisoner.  "He who incites strife is worse than he who takes part in it."
    http://aesopfables.com/...

    Socialism? Sooner or later, 300 million people will run into each other.

    by RockyLabor on Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 02:06:25 PM PST

  •  If (0+ / 0-)

    prosecutors can get the Tuscon shooter to confess that he watched this video, Representative Giffords and her family are in a very good position to sue Ruppert Murdoch for everything he's got, including Fox News.

    That might be the one piece of good news to come out of this terrible tragedy.

  •  Technically speaking... (0+ / 0-)

    ... I don't think he said that he wants to shoot US in the head, although I wouldn't put it past him. What he seems claiming to an audience that has a history of believing whatever damn words come out of his mouth is that "we" (the supposed progressive revolutionaries) or the government will have to shoot him and his viewers in the head if "we" or the government want to stop them from stopping us.

    Really, at this point it's mostly just splitting hairs. I personally can't decide if these are the ravings of a paranoid madman who ought to be confined to a mental hospital, or the conscious work of a demagogue whose purpose is to further poison the public discourse, if such a thing is possible, and to prime his audience to respond to anything that even remotely resembles a threat to them with violence.

    This is going beyond absurd. I've said it before and I'll say it again, this shit cannot go on like this.

  •  Beck's a Nazi??? (0+ / 0-)

    As much as I don't agree with him that is a stretch... What he is preaching is antagonistic to Nazism! Nazism is a nationalistic, authoritarian ideology and is akin to Fascism. The Fascist Manifesto's initial promises included nationalization of property, totally opposite of Beck. He preaches self reliance and a small government accountable to the people... not an authoritarian one like the German Nazi's (National Socialists). I know that fascism was historically put on the right side of the spectrum politically as was nationalism especially during the French Revolution. Today the typical conservative, like Beck would be considered liberal by the standards of that day, because of his stance on personal liberties and opposition to authoritarian rule. I would place him in the Libertarian movement but am not sure if he has identified himself as such.

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