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There is one thing. ONE thing we should all remember about what is happening in Egypt. Something that has been said before. Something we americans and westerners have forgotten. Its' below the fold.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

That is the final word on Egypt. It is the calling card of our shared ideology. It is the definition of the Left. It is the one single moral imperative of all human beings. We should remember that when we are analysing ,considering our interests, considering whats "best" for egyptians.

Originally posted to cdreid on Tue Feb 01, 2011 at 10:54 AM PST.

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  •  Tip Jar (3+ / 0-)
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    PeterHug, elliott, jfromga

    Fuck 'em. by Troubadour

    by cdreid on Tue Feb 01, 2011 at 10:54:38 AM PST

  •  أنا المž (1+ / 0-)
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    cdreid

    I am an Egyptian.

  •  You're right. not a diary. If you have nothing (0+ / 0-)

    expansive to say, add a comment to any number of other diaries.

  •  Well, the jury of history hasn't (2+ / 0-)
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    cdreid, Mariken

    even been selected yet. Is this the American revolution, the French revolution or the Iranian? We don't know yet and may not know for a year or so.

  •  Well, I suppose one could be (1+ / 0-)
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    cdreid

    ruthlessly truthful and point out that our Founding Fathers believed no such thing.

    So why should we?

    This much said, one would think we could do better.  

    •  Study more (0+ / 0-)

      The ones who actually wrote what we consider the core principles of our country believed it. Though they were hypocritical .. and knew they were. I can forgive Lincoln for being a near tyrant in his battle to recognise the right to freedom of the slaves. I can forgive FDRs' execution of innocent german sailors in light of his saving liberty across the planet. I can forgive Ted Kennedy for Chapequidic in light of the astonishing things he did for women and for the common people.

      Fuck 'em. by Troubadour

      by cdreid on Tue Feb 01, 2011 at 11:46:47 AM PST

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      •  If you claim to believe X (1+ / 0-)
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        and then proceed to do ~X, I see no reason to impute any sincerity to the "belief."  YMMV.

        •  I believe it is the duty (0+ / 0-)

          of every american to actively physically protest and be active for those things they believe in. Yet here we are sitting on our asses babbling on dk.

          Humans arent perfect. Ghandi professed individual freedom but tried to force the Indians and Pakis under a single government they didnt want. Washington fought to free us from insufferable taxation but sent troops to put down the americans who revolted against the whiskey tax. Kennedy stood head to head with the soviets to protect the freedom of the german people while he was pushing insane plots against castro and supporting tyranny around the world.

          We are people of our times and failings. How many Leftists and Kossacks preach individual liberty but revile venezuela, or support the Saudis, or only support civil unions, or or or...

          Fuck 'em. by Troubadour

          by cdreid on Tue Feb 01, 2011 at 12:15:50 PM PST

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          •  Not sure I see your point re: Gandhi. (1+ / 0-)
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            Individual freedom isn't causally dependent on which state one ends up with, and certainly there's no way to honor the statehood aspirations of every individual if they're not geographically segregated by aspiration.

            As for Washington and Kennedy: Yup. I'm still pissed off about the hagiography we teach while glossing over the Whiskey Rebellion (and Shays' Rebellion too, for that matter) in the classrooms and in popular culture.

            •  My point was (0+ / 0-)

              the greatest people in our history have had some astonishing flaws and hipocrasies. Jefferson for example is my hero. The only human i near worship. The man who gave us, and the world our very concept of liberty and inate rights. Yet when it came to his political enemies he could be an underhanded backstabbing weasel. Washington is more amazing than most people know .. a  genius at farming, business, et al.. yet .. the rebellions.  Franklin was probably the man whos diplomacy in the end won us the war. Yet most of what he did in france was party and lay everything in a skirt.

              And ghandi basically wanted to force the Indians and Pakis under one government over their friendly but loud objections. Wanted them ruled by a government neither wanted and used his political power to try to force that.. yet this is the very man who had just enabled them to overthrow a government they didnt want.

              Fuck 'em. by Troubadour

              by cdreid on Tue Feb 01, 2011 at 12:28:57 PM PST

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