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Hello team Massachusetts Kosmopolitans , and anyone else who is interested.

I wanted to lob this organizational diary out there for the MassKos group. I thought this could be a group that discusses local candidates, issues, events, travel, anything Mass-related really. I had no specific agenda for this group, except to facilitate conversation and action among my neighbors, with a central clearing house of diaries fed into the hopper. My initial inclination is to just let this run. I don't want to edit/moderate/drive content much--just that it be MA-related somehow.

Groups are organizing around all sorts of themes and topics, and will develop all kinds of organizational strategies. There's an ongoing discussion of follow vs join, and people will develop their own preferences for this. I really don't care what you decide to do. One quick note though: if you join--you are NOT automatically getting the diaries in your stream/feed from this group. You also have to click the ♥ to follow the group.

I have added everyone who asked to join, or who identified as a Mass resident in the roll call diary. Anyone is welcome, though, of course. Just send a message to me or the group, and I'll add you.

Currently the roles for group members are thus, according to management:

Structurally, this is all new. We can work out any organization we want with the tools we have. I'd sorta like to see this just develop, rather than drive it in any directed way. If others had stronger feelings about that--or some other philosophy, let us know.

As founder, I'm Blog Admin. But if you want to have that role as well, just let me know. I'd like someone else involved actually, as I travel for work sometimes.

Everyone else came in as Member. I think that's too limited a role. You can't see group messages then (or you aren't supposed to, there were some initial bugs with that). And I want the message feature more than anything--to alert the locals to important events, dates, diaries, or other crucial things without relying on people to always monitor their diary stream. I thought that the messaging would be almost a sort of bulletin board with announcements and such. Messaging is buggy right now--but after it calms down a bit that was my concept of this. All open for discussion, however.

If you don't like the messages, or the other stuff going on, you could always demote yourself later.

But I don't want group members to feel like they are required to publish diaries either. I have no objection to lurker members.

Some groups are electing to make everyone a Blog Editor. I have no problem with that strategy. It carries some risk though--it means that people can edit diaries published to the group blog, and can tweak the queue. But I'd be willing to take the chance for now, and back off if that is some sort of disaster. (Save a copy of everything you write--good strategy anyway).

What I would like for the local group is to be able to message each other if a relevant diary is up, or important event is scheduled (local meetup, campaign events, rallies, whatever). I would like anyone in the group to publish relevant material to the group, without waiting for an admin. And to monitor and republish if others write something worthwhile.

What do you think about how to organize this? Let's look back to an important local document . Yeah, they were theocratic misogynists and more, but...well, here it is, with some suggested updates for this group:

In the name of God Flying Spaghetti Monster, Amen. We whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James Markos, by the Grace of God of Great Britain, France and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith, FSM etc.

 Having undertaken, for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith Democratic Party and Honour of our King President and Country, a Voyage to plant the First Colony in the Northern Parts of Virginia the intertubz, do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God FSM and one of another, Covenant and Combine ourselves together into a Civil Body Politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute and frame such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony, unto which we promise all due submission and obedience.

 In witness whereof we have hereunder subscribed our names at DK Cape Cod, the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France and Ireland the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Domini 2011 1620.

We can develop a Mayflower Compact II, and whoever comes in as a member is required to agree to our Civil Body Politic before becoming an Editor. It will say stuff like (draft language):

  • Don't edit other's diaries without permission or request of the author, unless it's some kind of link/image/typo emergency or something. And even then--if you must--put a [mem from somerville....] sort of note with it to indicate the edit.
  • Don't spam message the group. That means commercial stuff, junk, useless trivia, etc. Please message on relevant topics for the group.
  • Don't harass or stalk anyone in the message mechanism.
  • Keep the political/issue/candidate arguments out of the back-channel. Use messages like a bulletin board for the most part.

Any breaches of those types of things would get your booted. Other points welcomed--mine were just a starting point for discussion.

The group description is also negotiable, of course. I just started with something people would recognize.

I don't expect us to all agree. And we have to keep in mind that issues and primaries can get heated--especially if we are going to lose one of our districts and there's some tension there. But some things are clear: wiscmass has proposed a worthy first goal for the group--show of hands?

I open the discussion. The Roles, the Compact, the Civic Body Politic, the goals, the description. Comment on any or all of it. What do you want to do with this group?

There was a lengthy discussion of the roles and terminology around groups led by Markos here last evening: http://www.dailykos.com/... There's much agita right now about what the terms are and what the functions are. Other groups may make other decisions about who handles what, and what their message systems are for. What we discuss and decide here is ONLY for this group, we are not determining anything about how others will run, nor should we conclude one way is the way right now. We may alter course if this isn't working.

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  •  Tip Jar (10+ / 0-)

    Darwinic pilgrims claim the image fills them with an overwhelming feeling of logic. --The Onion

    by mem from somerville on Tue Feb 15, 2011 at 04:30:02 PM PST

  •  If you are ready for a role change (3+ / 0-)
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    bumblebums, Clem Yeobright, wiscmass

    tell me:

    1) Yes, I will commit to the Civil Body Politic to which the group will govern.

    and

    2) Whether you want Admin or Editor.

    Staying at Member is fine. Leaving and deciding to just follow is fine.

    You can also always bail later. You can remove yourself from any group, and get back in at a different level.

    Darwinic pilgrims claim the image fills them with an overwhelming feeling of logic. --The Onion

    by mem from somerville on Tue Feb 15, 2011 at 04:33:04 PM PST

  •  These local groups are a great idea. (3+ / 0-)

    Everybody's an admin. in ours, we're very small d democratic. Think of the power if all the Kossacks in every state and every town would turn out to walk precincts, attend rallies and etc. Good luck with yours.

  •  I'm happy to help out however I can... (1+ / 0-)
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    mem from somerville

    ...subject to the still recession-elevated demands my job places upon me and the increasing family demands on my time -- we're expecting our first kid at the end of June.

    But as far as the 2012 elections go, no matter how busy I am, I'm going to be a very enthusiastic volunteer for whoever we get to take on Scott Brown. I'm very eager to hear ideas as to who the best candidate would be, and while I have my doubts about her abilities as a political candidate, the recent post I saw about recruiting Elizabeth Warren seems like a good place to start.

  •  I have issued some new invites (0+ / 0-)

    to those who just came by to request it, but the behavior isn't the same as it was the other day. I'm not sure if they actually went out.

    I have your request in the messages, I'll keep trying....

    Darwinic pilgrims claim the image fills them with an overwhelming feeling of logic. --The Onion

    by mem from somerville on Tue Feb 15, 2011 at 05:40:56 PM PST

  •  If Scott Brown... (1+ / 0-)
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    mem from somerville

    ...could be turned into a liberal Republican, he'd be damned useful in providing Obama with "bipartisan" cover.

    I know, that's about as likely as Dick Cheney turning himself in at the Hague.

    I'm looking forward to more from this group.  Anyone want to do some drinking/eating Liberally in the Boston area sometime?

    Freedom isn't "on the march." Freedom dances.

    by WarrenS on Tue Feb 15, 2011 at 05:52:41 PM PST

    •  Yeah, I want to meet IRL (0+ / 0-)

      I was wondering if we ought to use the existing Drinking Liberally structure.

      I don't go now because I don't know anyone there--but if we could agree to meet at one I think that would be nice.

      We could do others later after more of us have coalesced maybe? Or if DL is unappealing for other reasons, I'm up for other suggestions.

      Darwinic pilgrims claim the image fills them with an overwhelming feeling of logic. --The Onion

      by mem from somerville on Tue Feb 15, 2011 at 05:55:41 PM PST

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      •  I didn't know there was a DL... (1+ / 0-)
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        mem from somerville

        ...operating in our area. Is there?

        I'm not much of a drinker; one beer sees me through an evening.  But I'd love to have a get-together F2F.

        Freedom isn't "on the march." Freedom dances.

        by WarrenS on Tue Feb 15, 2011 at 06:49:17 PM PST

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        •  Yeah (1+ / 0-)
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          WarrenS

          There's a Cambridge/Boston one. There may be more. Here's the one I'm aware of:

          http://www.facebook.com/...

          Name:
              Drinking Liberally of Boston/Cambridge
          Category:
              Common Interest - Politics
          Description:
              Drinking Liberally is an informal, social club for political progressives. It's a place to talk politics, meet other liberals, and discuss issues and campaigns. There are over 300 chapters of Drinking Liberally in all 50 states! Whether you're a committed activist or you just want to have a drink and a good conversation, come join us.

              First Wednesday of every month, 7-8:30 pm
              Globe Bar
              565 Boylston St (between Clarendon and Dartmouth)
              Copley Sq, Back Bay, Boston
              By the blue balloon! (usually upstairs)

              Drinking Liberally is an informal, social club for political progressives. It's a place to talk politics, meet other liberals, and discuss issues and campaigns. There are over 300 chapters of Drinking Liberally in all 50 states! Whether you're a committed activist or you just want to have a drink and a good conversation, come join us.

              First Wednesday of every month, 7-8:30 pm
              Globe Bar
              565 Boylston St (between Clarendon and Dartmouth)
              Copley Sq, Back Bay, Boston
              By the blue balloon! (usually... (read more)
          Privacy Type:
              Open: All content is public.

          Darwinic pilgrims claim the image fills them with an overwhelming feeling of logic. --The Onion

          by mem from somerville on Tue Feb 15, 2011 at 06:54:29 PM PST

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  •  Perfect beginning, Mem (3+ / 0-)

    Organized, but not too many rules.  I agree about the messages, as well.

    I also think it should be All Things MA with an emphasis on political "activism."  That will, of course, mean different things to different persons.

    For me that can mean working on state legislative issues (medical marijuana, e.g.) while I am also organizing for 2012.

    Interesting about the Scott Bowers article, which was in the Feature Box as well, which claims that DKos is campaigning to draft Warren for the Senate run.  Wondered if that came from a member of Kosmopolitans, and how it became a DKos feature, as if there is already some sort of majority opinion about this.  All seems premature.

    Although I live in the boonies (Northfield), the western part of the state has a strong, strong progressive bent.  Lots of communes were formed out in this area during the 60's and there is still a "hippy" culture here.  

    I think defeating Scott Brown is a noble goal, yes.  We need to look at the 2010 election map to see those areas which were primary in electing Brown.  I would say that it was the suburbs that did the trick.  Most of the western areas voted for Coakley, along with the urban centers of the bigger cities.  And youth were probably not as involved as they were with Obama's election.  

    Since I worked in Cambridge and Boston before retiring, I still have many friends there and would enjoy a meet-up if scheduled on a weekend.

    Cheers for doing this.  We shall just have to see how things roll.  

    Just waitin' around for the new Amy Winehouse album

    by jarbyus on Tue Feb 15, 2011 at 08:01:10 PM PST

    •  Western Mass (3+ / 0-)

      Nice to see someone else from western MA here.  I think people in Boston sometimes forget that the state extends west of 495.

      I left my heart in NAZ.

      by Scott in NAZ on Tue Feb 15, 2011 at 08:16:08 PM PST

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    •  I'm not surprised (2+ / 0-)
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      mem from somerville, klamothe

      that there is another Kossack here in Northfield. I am extremely pleased to find out though. I had intended to just lurk in this group for a while , but now I'll most definitely have to ask Mem for membership.

    •  Yeah, I expect mostly activism. (1+ / 0-)
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      klamothe

      But one of the nice things about the community diaries is that they keep us friends even if we disagree on the specific candidate or issues or whatever. At least that's the way it works for me.

      As it picks up steam I'd like a MA roll call diary for people who are willing to talk about themselves and their location a bit. And we can see what and where people are up for something.

      Darwinic pilgrims claim the image fills them with an overwhelming feeling of logic. --The Onion

      by mem from somerville on Wed Feb 16, 2011 at 06:14:21 AM PST

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    •  AFAIK (0+ / 0-)

      it came from Chris Bowes and Kos. They floated the idea to members of the DKos alert list who are from Massachusetts and asked what they thought of the idea before airing it here.

      My response was a firm and unequivocal HELL NO.

      If the proponents of this petition knew anything about Massachusetts politics and the deep bench Dems have here they would know better than to push the idea of an academic with no electoral or campaign experience over those with much, much more name recognition and liberal chops.

      But I suspect that to them, this is about playing kingmaker. They're still congratulating themselves over backing Senator Ned Lamont.

      What? Lamont didn't get elected? In fact, he crashed and burned?

      Oh, well.

      "The truth will set you free...but first it'll piss you off." - Gloria Steinem

      by Sharoney on Wed Feb 16, 2011 at 10:23:38 PM PST

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  •  Another Western Mass Kossack (2+ / 0-)
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    mem from somerville, klamothe

    requesting membership please. :)

    •  Invite sent. (0+ / 0-)

      Let me know specifically if you (or anyone else reading this) wants the Editor+ level of membership. I won't do it automatically because then you get messages right now that may be daunting and are not necessary. Most are just member requests/invites.

      Darwinic pilgrims claim the image fills them with an overwhelming feeling of logic. --The Onion

      by mem from somerville on Wed Feb 16, 2011 at 06:11:46 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  I'm from Springfield & want to join (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mem from somerville

    I'd like to get more involved in politics here but it seems like there's no way to break in.  It doesn't really help that there are no real jobs out here, and it seems like Springfield is a dying or dead city.

    -7.13, -6.97 Scott Brown and Joe Lieberman want to strip people's citizenship, without evidence of a crime. Let's strip them of their Senate seats!

    by klamothe on Wed Feb 16, 2011 at 10:54:47 AM PST

    •  invite enroute (0+ / 0-)

      Yeah, it's easier to get involved in some places than others. And I love old cities like Springfield (I come from Lowell originally), but they can be a little insular too.

      Maybe we can find some routes in. It's easier at election time too.

      Darwinic pilgrims claim the image fills them with an overwhelming feeling of logic. --The Onion

      by mem from somerville on Wed Feb 16, 2011 at 11:34:04 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  I would like to join (0+ / 0-)

    this group.  I live in Greater BOSton.

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