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Every now and then, the schedule goes a little awry.  That's ok, we are the Genealogy and Family History Community.  We're tough.  We're used to disappointment.  Gotta roll with the punches, take one step at a time, forge ahead, man the torpedoes, don't give up the ship ....  

Heh, if we let such things get us down, we sure wouldn't last very long at our hobby.

Yesterday, I pretty much covered the progress of my organization project in my diary, so nothing else to report there.  I spent a pretty quiet evening keying in some previously unrecorded data I had collected a while ago.  I also need to dig up the complete source information, so I can get that recorded, too.  No major AHA! moments, though.  Well, except one thing.  As I was working away, my cat Jasmine brought me a little present - a wee mouse.  So, I guess is wasn't so much, AHA!, as it was, UH OH!

Jasmine was so proud of herself.  She'd let the little thing go, then chase it down when it tried to run off.  Then she'd bat it around, catch it again and carry it in her mouth before releasing it again. Poor thing, must have been scared to death.

As much as I appreciate Jasmine catching it, and hope she'll continues to do so if she ever sees another one in the house, I couldn't bear to see the little critter tormented.  So I grabbed a towel, caught it, took it way out back near the field, and dropped it over the fence at the neighboring housing development.  Then I said, "there's lots and lots of warm houses over here for you to choose from.   Heh heh."

When I came back into the house, I was met with a barrage of daggers coming out of the eyes of Jasmine.  I'm very concerned and a little scared.  Probably the next time, she's going to wait to present the mouse to me until after I've gone to bed so she can slip it under the covers.  "I'll show you!"

Okay, this has nothing to do with genealogy/family history, but it's the most exciting thing that happened in the past 24 hours, which should tell you more than you'll ever want to know about my life.

Anyways, the floor is open.  What are you you working on?  Successes?  Disappointments?  Catch any mice lately?

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  •  Tip Jar (15+ / 0-)

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" - MLK

    by edwardssl on Fri Apr 01, 2011 at 10:21:26 AM PDT

  •  mea culpa (8+ / 0-)

    thanks for the back up, edwardssl. I was looking on google for some particular pics and got slammed with some stupid weird attack attempt. Successfully averted I hope!

    "Thunder is good, thunder is impressive; but it is lightning that does all the work." ~Mark Twain

    by Lady Libertine on Fri Apr 01, 2011 at 10:54:41 AM PDT

  •  On the German-Russian hunt (7+ / 0-)

    I think my wife planned a weekend getaway just to keep me away from the computer this weekend.

    That's okay. On Tuesday, I'm taking the day off from work and spending it at the Concordia University Center for Volga German Studies library to see how much I can discover about my German-Russian ancestors in 5 hours.

    I think on my first visit I found one of my ancestors that was part of the first German-Russian migration in 1765.  Anyone have hints on finding German records from the mid-1700's?  I'm betting it will be a lot easier than finding the Russian records.

    •  I use the LDS microfilms (5+ / 0-)
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      slksfca, Chun Yang, klompendanser, cka, larmos

      for most of my German research, but I usually know exactly where I'm searching.  Otherwise, it could be a needle in a haystack.

      On the LDS website, I queried "German" and "Russian" and got this list.

      This book looks promising, Russian-German settlements in the United States.  It's on microfilm, so you can order it from there.  Or you can see if someone has it for sale.

      Good luck!

      "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" - MLK

      by edwardssl on Fri Apr 01, 2011 at 11:27:27 AM PDT

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      •  That's my next stop... (5+ / 0-)
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        The Family History Center - just found one last night that's 5 minutes away.  The only weekend day they are open is the 2nd Saturday of the month - good timing!  I looked that up after reading through your comments in your last diary.  Hoping I can find the initial emigrant to Russia.

        My grandparents came to the U.S. in 1905 and 1911 and I know all about them.  Getting the church birth/death/marriage records from the German villages in Russia is the hard part.

        I found a group that purchased and translated the records that are stored in one city in Russia - but it looks like that city only had the records for years without any of those activities in my family.  Still pondering whether I want to shell out the money to get data on what would probably end up just being cousins of my ancestors.

  •  Hi there, GFHers. (8+ / 0-)

    Am gonna let my ignorance hang out today and ask some quetions, the answers to which I should certainly already know, but don't.

    In looking through old deed/land records from the counties where my way-way-back ancestors settled, I see several of them always as witnesses (and some as parties to, of course) land sales.  I'm talking early 1800s.  Do these witnesses hold any particular position or are they simply men who, as landholders,  can attest to the ownership of the parcels in question?  

    Also, in looking at Scottish records I see that one of my gggggreats was a "fowler to Ld. Dumfries."  A fowler, according to Wikipedia, is one who hunts wild birds.  What would being a fowler to a laird entail?

    Any help would be appreciated, indeed.  Thanks.

    Oh sure. Whenever I face a budget crisis the first thing I do is ask my employer to cut my salary.

    by figbash on Fri Apr 01, 2011 at 11:19:40 AM PDT

    •  not that I'm an expert (7+ / 0-)

      but in the old deeds I've been looking at from that era the witnesses were pretty in the category of people who could attest/with knowledge of the parties and their land ownership. Lots of times they were relatives and neighbors (one of my litigious ancestor stories will include some of those!). OMMV, of course.

      Re the fowlers, don't know exactly but a few years ago when I was on a kick of reading lots and lots of Anthony Trollope novels there were a throw-away episodes of the the laird/lord/landed gentry type listening to the complaints of their gamekeeper-type-employees (I don't recall the exact term Trollope used) about the neighboring gentry encroaching/poaching on their bird/game population, or doing something on the property that destroyed the bird/game habitat. Don't know if this specifically relates, but it sprang to mind when reading "fowler to laird....:

      You go to war with the TROLLS you have, not the TROLLS you might want or wish to have at a later time.

      by klompendanser on Fri Apr 01, 2011 at 11:37:21 AM PDT

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      •  Thanks, K. (4+ / 0-)
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        I thought I was on the right track with my understanding of the probable answers to my questions.  I live by the "when you assume, you make an ass out of you and me" warning so I generally want to know for sure.

        Thanks for your response and the help.

        Oh sure. Whenever I face a budget crisis the first thing I do is ask my employer to cut my salary.

        by figbash on Fri Apr 01, 2011 at 12:35:48 PM PDT

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    •  Bob's Genealogy Filing Cabinet (4+ / 0-)
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      I love this guy.  Very knowledgeable.  When I need help understanding some of this deed/will stuff, I look here first.

      Maybe someone else has a clue about the fowler.

      Good luck!

      "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" - MLK

      by edwardssl on Fri Apr 01, 2011 at 11:48:54 AM PDT

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      •  Oh wow! (4+ / 0-)
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        I'll be able to spend lots and lots of time rumaging through Bob's filing cabinets.  Two of the families he lists are in my tree as well, Ivie of Viriginia and Hayes of Granville County NC. Colonial & Southern Genealogies.  That's right up my alley.

        Thanks ever, ever so much.  

        Oh sure. Whenever I face a budget crisis the first thing I do is ask my employer to cut my salary.

        by figbash on Fri Apr 01, 2011 at 12:32:36 PM PDT

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        •  Aha! Ivie of Virginia is my husband's line. (3+ / 0-)
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          Adam Ivey Family Of Charles City (now Prince George) County, Virginia had a daughter named Susan Ivey (way at the bottom of the page), who married Gilbert Hay.  Their daughter Ruth married William Solomon, and their daughter Elizabeth married William Judd, and moved to Moore Co, NC.  William's son Henderson fathered 10 children with his former slave, Mary.  Henderson was my husband's g-g-grandfather.

          "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" - MLK

          by edwardssl on Fri Apr 01, 2011 at 12:45:54 PM PDT

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          •  I was too quick to jump on the Ivie link - sort of (2+ / 0-)
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            My Ivie was one Judith who married Anthony Prater (Prather) in 1572 in West Kington, Wiltshire.  Their grandson, Thomas Prater II, immigrated to America in 1622 on the ship, Marie Providence.  He was 18 years old at the time and arrived in Elizabeth City, Virginia.  He was married to Mary Powell in Virginia in 1624.  They had five children:  Jonathan, Samuel, William, Richard and John.  I am descended from Jonathan who married a Jane Mackay in Calvert County, (now part of Prince George's) Maryland.  At that early time, it wouldn't be surprising that our Ivies might be entertwined, would it?  If you go back far enough?......

            Oh sure. Whenever I face a budget crisis the first thing I do is ask my employer to cut my salary.

            by figbash on Fri Apr 01, 2011 at 04:33:01 PM PDT

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        •  And have fun in Bob's drawers! (2+ / 0-)
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          "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" - MLK

          by edwardssl on Fri Apr 01, 2011 at 12:48:41 PM PDT

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  •  Hi (9+ / 0-)

    This week I had the pleasure of "trumping" my favorite aunt, a crack genealogist and family historian, with the story I'd just discovered and wrote about in my last diary.

    She's much more plugged in to the family history than I am, but that story — about her great grandfather — was new to her.

    Her reply to me when I emailed her the story was that I have "prodigious research skills," but my discovery was really mostly just dumb luck. :-)

    Anyway, good hunting to you all!

    There are, in every age, new errors to be rectified, and new prejudices to be opposed. ~Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)

    by slksfca on Fri Apr 01, 2011 at 11:39:53 AM PDT

  •  Geez, edwardsl (5+ / 0-)

    Between spiders and mice, you lead a very fauna driven life.....

    I was wondering if there might be value to our group listing their areas/eras of research, to see if there are any overlaps?  Thoughts?

    •  I know! (3+ / 0-)
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      In the 23 years we've lived, I've seen maybe half a dozen mice in my house.  Just this winter, Jasmine's caught 2 (I had to take the first one away from her, too.  She's really starting to hate me!).  Oh well, to be expected, I guess.  We've got a bit cornfield next to us.

      Anyway, in our first group diary, some of us mentioned where our areas of research were, but you're right, it's a good idea to mention again, since we're gaining new members all the time.  Maybe the open thread would be a good place each week.


      North Carolina
      Germany - Northwest to Southwest

      "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" - MLK

      by edwardssl on Fri Apr 01, 2011 at 12:06:40 PM PDT

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    •  don't the pootie people and kos catalog people (5+ / 0-)
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      have some sort of spreadsheet that they link to? I don't know how that works, but maybe something that could be updated easily as new member join?

      Anyway for my interests/expertise:

      Netherlands (Groningen Provice)
      Long Island/Suffulk Co NY
      New Jersey
      Disgruntled-loyalists-who-went-to-Canda-but-their-kids came-back.

      Have done successful Mayflower, DAR, and Wisconsin Pioneer applications

      You go to war with the TROLLS you have, not the TROLLS you might want or wish to have at a later time.

      by klompendanser on Fri Apr 01, 2011 at 12:17:43 PM PDT

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    •  Volga settlements in Russia (5+ / 0-)

      My Uncle has already done extensive research on my mother's side which has been in America since at least the 1700's (Ohio, West Virginia, Virginia).

      I've been trying to track down my father's family from the German-Russian settlements along the Volga River in Russia:


      and my first clue to the original German settlers has one coming from Setzingen, Germany in 1765.

      That's all I have so far - just getting started...

  •  genetic cousins (7+ / 0-)

    I was matched on my DNA service with a genetic fourth cousin and am trying to trace the family lines. Actually, I have two I need to research. Right now I am at the beach and don't want to sit down with a legal pad and write out the data. It is so funny: a Hall family member(check, I have that) in South Carolina(check) who married a Wicker(check) and a great-grandmother Safronia Hall(check) but they are DIFFERENT PEOPLE from mine!

    My other match is to someone who has Blankenship ancestors in Texas. All well and good, I have that in my family tree. Only problem - mine are in another part of Texas from hers, and it turns out there were about 999,000 Blankenships in Texas in the 1800s. Well, not exactly, but when you are looking for that one specific one, it seems that way!
    For now, I will just let the sound of the ocean waves clear my head. I am in South Carolina - tempted to just drive over to Newberry and see some of my ancestors graves. For fun, you know.

    by Chun Yang on Fri Apr 01, 2011 at 11:54:46 AM PDT

    •  I've got to get my brother's dna done (3+ / 0-)
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      I know I'll have to pay for it, but could hopefully shed some light on a mystery I have from the 1750s.

      Gotta get that done.

      Enjoy that beach, you lucky devil!  And never pass up an opportunity to visit graves (you do realize only a fellow family history buff can appreciate that).

      "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" - MLK

      by edwardssl on Fri Apr 01, 2011 at 12:53:04 PM PDT

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      •  visiting graves (3+ / 0-)
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        That was my childhood, going to little country cemeteries with my mom. Imagine her shock when I decided to recreate her genealogy and improve it while sitting on my sofa with I found her grandmother's family, the Halls who were in South Carolina before Georgia. Newberry is too far to drive but now she wants to come in later spring and go there, maybe with other relatives.

        It has been chilly and rainy most of the week, but a break nonetheless. There are sales on DNA tests from time to time,  usually starting around Thanksgiving to encourage holiday giving, at least, with

        by Chun Yang on Fri Apr 01, 2011 at 02:25:39 PM PDT

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  •  My areas / eras (5+ / 0-)

    Pennsylvania - 1720 - 1730
    Virginia 1730 - 1820
    Ohio - 1820 - 1860
    NC - 1750 - 1830
    Alabama - 1830 - 1900
    Georgia - 1840 - 1900
    South Carolina - 1720 - 1900

    Like klompendanser, I am also a member of the DAR.  

    Is anyone else looking for my areas & times?

    Does anyone need help doing a DAR application?

  •  Very good idea, I think, for us to (2+ / 0-)
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    edwardssl, larmos

    list our research areas:

    Mine are:

    Illinois - Fayette and Christian counties
    Tennessee - Wayne and Hickman counties
    North Carolina - Granville and Rutherford counties
    West Virginia - Wirt County
    Scotland - Ayrshire

    Oh sure. Whenever I face a budget crisis the first thing I do is ask my employer to cut my salary.

    by figbash on Fri Apr 01, 2011 at 12:48:30 PM PDT

  •  Areas/Eras (4+ / 0-)
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    -->  Sandwich, Lynn, early 1600s
    -->  Braintree, 1630 - 1640
    -->  Martha's Vineyard, 1636 - 1809

    Ohio, 1820s - 1880s
    --> Maumee, Oh.
    --> Kirtland, Oh.
    --> Lucas County
    --> Geauga county

    Three brothers left Ohio in the 1880s bound for Estherville:
    Henry Allen, George C. Allen (g-g-grandfather), and Francis (Frank) Allen.  Henry is a mystery and may have moved on to Texas.  Decendants of George Allen stayed in Estherville for 2 1/2 generations.  Decsendants of Frank moved on to Des Moines and elsewhere.

  •  Success... (5+ / 0-)

    I found a death record for my great, great-grandfather, Franklin R. Harris.  This confirms for me his death date as May 25, 1934, and his mother's maiden name, though I am still not sure of the spelling and I thought her first name was Jane, not Nancy.

    Failure... I still cannot confirm he is the same Franklin R. Harris who lists as having died on May 26, 1934, which would give me my first really big story and a photo.

  •  my areas (currently!--it's ever-expanding) (3+ / 0-)
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    Maryland (pre-rev war)
    Virginia (colonial -1790s--I think)
    Ross County Ohio (and other counties) (1800-1850)
    Logan County Illinois 1820--present
    Portland Oregon 1862-1865 (it was a short stay!)

    KY (Bourbon, Warren) 1800-
    IN (Franklin) 1820-1850
    Kansas (Shawnee/Topeka) 1857-1880
    IL (again)

    westprussia--left in 1882 (haven't touched this)

  •  A question on sourcing and my areas (3+ / 0-)
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    I've found (in going through those files to answer a question from my sister) pages that were copied from what looks to be a published family tree. However, there isn't any source information on the pages that I have.

    Does anyone have any ideas of how I might be able to determine who put this together and when?

    As to my areas, they are:
    Iowa (southeast, especially Des Moines County (not the city!), Jefferson County, and Wapello County)
    Ross County Ohio (me, too, larmos)

    •  Neat! When were your people in Ross? (1+ / 0-)
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      I have lots of roots in Ross. Gasaway/Gassaway Denson/Dennison, Huston,

    •  without the publication info, the published (1+ / 0-)
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      genealogy might be hard to track down. Is it an older work, like pre-1920s? If so Higginson Booksmight be  a good place to look. I have ordered a couple of things from them, but mostly I search out titles and then plug them into google books to see if they are available online, and if not where they are in the nearest library. Google books helps to find newer published genealogies too if you plug in a few key names/dates or phrases from the pages you have.

      You go to war with the TROLLS you have, not the TROLLS you might want or wish to have at a later time.

      by klompendanser on Sat Apr 02, 2011 at 09:15:05 PM PDT

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  •  Irish Genealogy (2+ / 0-)
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    For those of you interested, the Irish Family History Foundation has added more advanced searches

    by Renie57 on Sat Apr 02, 2011 at 11:05:01 AM PDT

  •  Irish Genealogy (1+ / 0-)
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    For those of you interested, theIrish Family History Foundation has added more advanced options to their searches.

    by Renie57 on Sat Apr 02, 2011 at 11:09:50 AM PDT

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