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Donald Trumps mother, Mary A. MacLeod, was born in 1912 in Stornoway, Scotland.  Trump's father, Fred Trump Sr., was born in America ... maybe ... at least that's what Fred Trump Sr. "claimed."  However, facts do not necessarily bear that out as being true - but - Fred Trump Sr & his lies, or fibs, about his own heritage are not what this Diary is about.

This Diary is about whether or not Donald Trump was born in the USA or - was he really born in Scotland?

Fred Trump Sr. obituary says:

In 1936, Mr. Trump married Mary McLeod, who had come to this country when she was 19 from Stornoway, Scotland.

Donald Trump's Wikipedia site says:

Trump's mother Mary Anne was born at Tong, Stornoway on the Isle of Lewis in 1912. In 1930, aged 18, on holiday in New York, she met Fred Trump and stayed in New York.

Fred Trump's wiki page says

Fred Trump married Scottish immigrant Mary A. MacLeod

We also know from Fred Trump Sr obituary that Fred Trump lied to his friends & acquaintances about his own true heritage:

Mr. Trump would tell friends and acquaintances that he was of Swedish origin, although both his parents were born in Germany. John Walter, his nephew and the family historian, explained, ''He had a lot of Jewish tenants and it wasn't a good thing to be German in those days.''

Bottom line, Fred Trump Sr thought that lying about his own heritage would be financially beneficial for him and make him a successful business man in the USA .... hmmm .... The questions then become:

1. Did Fred Trump Jr use his money to Forge US Birth Certificates for his children?

2. Did Donald Trump's mother, like many women in that era, go home to Scotland to be with her mother when she gave birth?

3. Did Donald Trump's father teach Donald that lying about his heritage and lying and pretending to have been born in the USA make Donald a more successful Real Estate man in the USA?  

Donald told Financial Times Magazine:

being mentored by my father was very important in my working life.

The Birth Certificate Donald Trump gave ABC News also raises questions about what country Donald Trump was really born in.

The Birth Certificate that Trump submitted to abc News shows it was signed in 1946 by New York City Mayor William O'Dwyer.  

According to the Wyman Institute, Mayor O'Dwyer attended Fordham University and built a successful practice in Brooklyn, New York  -- hmm... Donald Trump went to Fordham and his father was a very successful business man in Brooklyn too.

From Wymann:
"I should note, first of all, that Bill [William O'Dwyer] earned his law degree right here at the Fordham Law School, Class of 1923 ... he built up a very successful law practice in Brooklyn"

From Wiki:
Trump attended Fordham University for two years

From Wiki
Fred Trump Sr. "Trump embarked on a career as a real estate developer, building and operating affordable rental housing in New York City ... Brooklyn and Jamaica Estates in Queens."

Also, according to the Wyman Institute in 1938, when William O'Dwyer was a judge, he was willing to break US Laws in order to help immigrants.

a judge, and aspiring District Attorney, helping people to break the immigration laws of one of America's closest allies.

In 1946, a friend of Mayor William O'Dwyer's came to him and told him that the NYPD had just found a warehouse full of weapons that his friends, not Mayor O'Dwyer's friends, but his friend's friends where illegally shipping overseas. The Wyman Institute acknowledges that Mayor O'Dwyer forced the NYPD to leave the shipping area so those arms could be illegally shipped.  

Thus, the Wyman Institute acknowledges that Mayor O'Dwyer was willing to break US Laws and International Laws for people O'Dwyer was friends with and for causes O'Dwyer believed in.

O'Dwyer instructed the police officers guarding the cordoned-off warehouse to be “out sick” for 24 hours. During that time, the guns [where packed] on ships and shipped out.

Also notice that on Donald Trumps Birth Certificate, it claims that he was born in Jamaica Hospital in Queens, New York.  Well, according to his mother's obituary, his mother, Mary MacLeod, a pavilion at Jamaica Hospital Medical Center bears the Trump name and she was very, very active in the Women's Auxiliary at Jamaica Hospital ... hmmm.....

Mrs. Trump was the mainstay of the Women's Auxiliary of Jamaica Hospital and of the Jamaica Day Nursery. The Trumps were also active in the Salvation Army, the Boy Scouts of America and the Lighthouse for the Blind, among others. A pavilion at Jamaica Hospital Medical Center bears their name.

That leads us back to Donald Trumps Birth Certificate and the question, "Was Donald Trump REALLY born in America?"

Did Fred Trump meet future Mayor William O'Dwyer when they were both building their careers  Brooklyn?

Was Fred Trump so obsessed with lying about his own heritage to make it as a successful business man in the USA that he asked Mayor O'Dwyer to Forge a US Birth Certificate for his kids?

Was one of the many business tricks Donald Trump learned from his mentor and father, Fred Trump, was to lie about one's place of birth and lie about one's heritage?

How much did the Trumps have to give Jamaica Hospital in return for a fake Birth Certificate for their kids & their name on a wing of the hospital?

How come Donald Trump can't find the doctor who allegedly brought him into the world?

How come know one seems to remember Mrs. Trump being pregnant in the USA in 1945 or 1946?

Why have no attendants who worked at Jamaica Hospital in 1946 come forward to say they remember Donald Trump being born?

All these lingering questions must be answered ... so ... I'll let ya'll know the results from those private investigators I have hired to look into this.  Thus far, the detectives I've hired to look into the where abouts of Trumps REAL Birth country have turned up AMAZING things

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    •  Well, he's not a "Real American" (5+ / 0-)

      Trump claims to have been born in NY City. It's already been well established (see Palin, Bush, Bachmann) that New York City is not part of Real America. Therefore, he is not qualified a Real American. QED

      •  Trump could settle the matter, I wish he would, (0+ / 0-)

        simply showing us his brain.

        I've been told just recently that it's missing.

        Even his family have argued about it's location.

        He is not eligible for the Presidency if he does not have a brain.  (Though some scholars have suggested that evidence from the first 8 years of the current century indicate to the contrary.)  

        The controversy surrounding this question (I don't know how many times my constitutents have approached me and asked we about it) deserves to be put to rest before his "campaign" goes any further.

        As a public service, Donald Trump should not just submit to a brain scan (the standards on that are much lower, in fact you can call on the phone and get one) he should submit, in a televised procedure, to exploratory surgery to answer, once and for all, does Donald Trump have a brain?  

        We'd rather dream the American Dream than fight to live it or to give it to our kids. What a shame. What an awful, awful shame.

        by Into The Woods on Tue Apr 26, 2011 at 01:30:29 PM PDT

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  •  It doesn't matter if he were born in Scotland (4+ / 0-)
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    cc, Linda in Ohio, GammaRae, DiegoUK

    or on Mars, the dude's still white, even if he is using Don King as a hair model.

    The birth location is trumped (heh) by what Really Matters in this situation.

  •  Trumpbirthers say he was born in South Africa (1+ / 0-)
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    And frankly, they make a pretty compelling case.  A much better case, in fact, than brain-free Obama birthers do.

    But I still want to see that enticing South African Trump Certificate of Birth up close.

    Fuck with the truth at your own peril. -Anonymous

    by thenekkidtruth on Tue Apr 26, 2011 at 11:34:04 AM PDT

  •  Doesn't look like an NYC birth certificate (0+ / 0-)

    How do I know? I was born in Manhattan and I have a clue about what the NYC BC actually looks like. Trump's is so cheesy it actually raised suspicions about his activity. One almost wonders if he doth protest too much to deflect attention away from his own Presidential (in)eligibility.

  •  I love diaries on this issue. (5+ / 0-)

    Your diary fails to raise one big issue:  has it ever been the practice for a New York mayor to sign a birth certificate?

    That's highly unusual.

    I've been an immigration lawyer for more than 20 years, and I have to present client birth certificates all the time, and I've never seen one signed by a mayor.

    It's good to probe the mayor!  But also probe this basic question of why in hell a mayor would be dealing with a picayune issue like a birth certificate.

    And do we know it's really the mayor's signature?

    It is a do things about injustice.... It helps to have a goal. I've always tried to have one.--Ted Kennedy, True Compass

    by Timaeus on Tue Apr 26, 2011 at 11:37:22 AM PDT

  •  Please define "born". (2+ / 0-)
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    Marie, UFOH1

    In this case, does it mean "crawled out from under a gold-plated rock clutching a can of Aquanet in one hand and  a copy of Bankruptcy 4 Dummies in the other"? If so,then the answer is maybe.
    Or as Palin might point out,NYC is not real AmeriKKKa.

    "George RR Martin is not your bitch" ~~ Neil Gaiman

    by tardis10 on Tue Apr 26, 2011 at 11:44:10 AM PDT

  •  Yes.....These Are Serious Questions (1+ / 0-)

    about exactly where The Donald was born.  That hairdo has never been found in the human species before.  We need a lock of his hair for DNA testing.

    Some say he came from Mars.  Some say he came from the forest w/ the other raccoons.  Some say his comb over actually originates from deep within his ear canal.  He's a medical oddity that begs for scientific research & a full scale investigation.  

    Maybe when Donald's investigators are done investigating the President's birth certificate in Hawaii, they could start that full scale investigation of Donald's true origins.  

  •  Pretty sure "hatched" is not the same as "born" (1+ / 0-)

    technically speaking. Lizards, of course, are hatched. Obviously, Trump is not qualified. QED

    Until we break the corporate virtual monopoly on what we hear and see, we keep losing, don't matter what we do.

    by Jim P on Tue Apr 26, 2011 at 11:50:59 AM PDT

  •  He was born on Uranus (0+ / 0-)

    Here is the proof.

    1. The name of the planet. After all, Trump is a major galaxy class  super A-hole.

    2. Uranus is mostly made of very gas. When Mr. Trump illegally crossed the border to earth, it got warm and as we know hot gasses expand (look at the cheeks people!).
    We all know what a Gasbag Mr. Trump is.
    He definitely elevates the phrase "full of himself" to a whole new level.

    3. Since Mr trump probably breathes methane (one of the most common gasses in his home world atmosphere) , efforts to reduce this potent greenhouse gas emissions pose a serious threat to him. What is more natural for him than to be a climate change denier?

    4. Winds. On Uranus there winds are extremely strong, therefore all inhabitants of Uranus must have hair that can practically  withstand a nuclear explosion. As far as I can tell, Mr trump's coif  cannot be disturbed  even by a #$&&*# Supernova

    There you have it ladies and gentlemen.  The undisputed proof that Mr. Trump is in fact an illegal alien.

    "One might almost call it poetic, if poetry weren't the last refuge of the bearded, cricket hating sodomite."

    by The Revenge of Shakshuka on Tue Apr 26, 2011 at 11:52:45 AM PDT

  •  Grandpa (allegedly) (0+ / 0-)


    It was from there that Friedrich [Drumpf], fleeing army service and poverty, emigrated to the United States in 1885, settling first in New York, then in and around Seattle and then up in the Yukon Territory, supplying food (including horsemeat), liquor and women to prospectors.

    The trump didn't fall far from that drumpf.

    (Grandmother, mother, and first wife all foreign born -- hmmm.)

    •  Brave heart (1+ / 0-)
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      was a movie created to see to the American Public that a Dangerous Scottish Terrorist could be a leader so that Donald Trump could be elected president

      •  we all know (1+ / 0-)
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        Mel Gibson is a Scottish and he made a movie movie Glorifying a Scottish Terrorist so Donald Trump is a Scottish terrorist because Gibson is supporting him

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