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Alright, I know this is going to come off like a Mr. Cranky-Pants, DDS, JD, BA , but I could not possibly care less about the wedding of Kate Middleton and Prince William. Let me be clear; they seem like nice young people and I do wish them every happiness, as I do anyone who stands up and gets married.

However I have no interest in the wall to wall coverage that is going to erupt on Friday starting at 6am Eastern Time. I am not a British subject; I am a democrat from a country that has repudiated the idea of Monarchy, even a constitutional Monarchy. We fought two wars (Revolutionary and war of 1812) to make perfectly plain that we would not be subjects and I don’t need to be bombarded with the trappings of royalty even if it is only for one excruciatingly long day.

After all this is a wedding that is costing in the millions of dollars in a nation that is putting forward some of the sharpest austerity measures seen in their Queens lifetime. There is something more than a little obscene in spending this kind of money for a single wedding, even if it is for the eventual monarch of your country.

I am sure that there will be some who find this all a little much. After all shouldn’t we enjoy the pageantry and majesty of one of the last real royal families in the world? It doesn’t cost us anything, after all.Sorry but I have to be the curmudgeon on this issue.

There are important things going on in our country. The economy is not in good shape. The Republicans in the House and Senate are still playing the very dangerous hostage game with our debt ceiling and the full faith and credit of the United States. There are two or three wars going on (depending on if you count Libya or Iraq as a war at this point), the Syrian government is stationing tanks in multiple cities to quell unrest. And as I mentioned earlier today the President is going to nominate Leon Panetta to be Secretary of Defense and put Gen. David Petraeus in to the Director of CIA job.

These are the real issues and problems that we should be focused on and even if it only one day (though it will really start to ramp up tomorrow) it is one day where flash will take precedence over substance, and it is day we can ill afford.

For the love of Mike! They are not even our Prince and Princess! They are just two more wealthy people who are going to have a big wedding, nothing more or less. Prince William is a Windsor, so what? What about all the other folks who will be married on Friday? Should the world stop everything for their weddings too?

Yes, I do get that I am, perhaps, a bit over heated about this. Still when there are so many problems in the world, is there anything to be gained by spending an obsessive amount of time (including this post) thinking about the marriage of the dependents of the people who were the most ruthless and bloody oppressors in the “royal” class? Does the fact that their ancestors could swing a sword better than others make them special in any way?

All I have to say is a big fat “Whatever!” and roll my eyes in disgust. I think I’ll rent 1776, The Swamp Fox , and V for Vendetta and have myself an anti-Anglophile film fest on Friday!

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  •  Tips? Flames? (37+ / 0-)

    Maybe something nice and soothing for me to drink?

    Getting Democrats together and keeping them that way is like herding cats that are high on meth, through L.A., during an earthquake, in the rain -6.25, -6.10

    by Something the Dog Said on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 09:38:26 AM PDT

    •  My birthday is tomorrow (7+ / 0-)

      And I, for one, am extremely honored (or should that be honoured?) that Britain is having a bank holiday in my honor :-)  

      Seriously though, I could care less.   Would I watch any other perfect strangers' wedding?  Nope.  And that is what the royal family is to me.  They are self-important people who are distantly related to people who used to matter once upon a time.   While the Cameron government launches a war on welfare, why not stop the greatest welfare in that country, the funding of the royals?  Certainly the amount spent on them would be enough to cover student tuitions.

      I can understand the BBC going crazy over this, and the broadcasting services in the Commonwealth countries, but not the US.  These people have no bearing whatsoever on our lives.  Over 200 people have died in a massive tornado outbreak, Republicans are trying crazy shit, two wars are going on, etc.  But they choose to cover this?

      They'll laugh as they watch us fall; the lucky don't care at all...

      by AnakinSkywalker on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 09:53:58 AM PDT

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      •  Happy Birthday!! (2+ / 0-)
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      •  Sheer ignorance (0+ / 0-)

        English universities last year admitted roughly290.000 students which would equate to over 900,000 students at universities on 3 year and post-grad courses or roughly £5.4 billion if non charged the higher rate fees. (Figures are very rough for a large number of reasons including the non-charging of fees to Welsh and Scottish students)

        The costs of the Queen amount to £7.2million p.a. to pay for official duties (that includes the costs of things like the formal dinner that Obama will soon enjoy). That is unchanged since 1991. .  

        Costs for Charles are met from income from the Duchy of Cornwall estates and the profits from the rest of the income are subject to income tax.

        Costs of the other minor royals when undertaking official duties are met by tax deductions from the Queen's private income.

        As with the US President, some other costs are subsumed in other budgets - the costs of the Queen's flight aircraft are borne by the RAF in the same way Air Force One is part of the USAF. For foreign trips, larger planes are either chartered or more commonly, ordinary commercial flights are used.

        Similarly the costs of security are in other budgets. The additional costs of the wedding are estimated at £20 million although the actual wedding is being paid for by the family. This is probably being more than recovered from the profits from the US and other overseas television crews hotel and facilities payments!  I hate to think how much a multi-hour infomercial promoting English tourism on several US networks would cost.

        Your assertion about the costs of the monarchy vs the student charge costs are therefore way off the mark even if you ignore the  fact that the new system introduced will reduce the payments for the least well paid graduates and will expire after 25 years, unlike the previous loan arrangements

        "Israel was born out of Jewish terrorism." Sir Gerald Kaufman, British MP and son of Holocaust survivor.

        by Lib Dem FoP on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:44:24 AM PDT

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    •  Every country and culture has traditions... (0+ / 0-)

      .... that may not make a whole lot of sense to people elsewhere in the world.  The way I see this is as part of an ancient British tradition, part of their culture, and not something that Americans should be getting all tweaked about, any more than the various religious holidays that occur in other cultures.

      •  That is exactly my point. We are not British, (1+ / 0-)
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        why should there be wall to wall coverage of that here?

        Getting Democrats together and keeping them that way is like herding cats that are high on meth, through L.A., during an earthquake, in the rain -6.25, -6.10

        by Something the Dog Said on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 02:45:23 PM PDT

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        •  Because it's a major event in a country.... (0+ / 0-)

          .... with which we have deep connections on many levels.

          For all the talk about 1776 that's been going on here recently, let's not forget WW2.  And for that matter, the English influences in American music since the Beatles, have been as important as the American roots of rock coming from the blues.

          But again, anyone who isn't interested doesn't have to watch.  And if that's all that's on TV, then go online or go out with friends or go out to eat or to a movie or just sit still and meditate, or have sex, or whatever.  

  •  Boy, you are grouchy :-) (16+ / 0-)

    My weddings (yes, plural) to my husband were great and far better than this Royal Wedding. We eloped to this bed and breakfast in Brownwood, got married there in August, and posed next to a llama. Then a year later in April, which was a year ago today, we got married in the Catholic church in front of friends and family, which was fantastic.

    We're coming up on our two year anniversary in August. I'm getting sappy and nostalgic as that nears.

    I work with B2B PAC, and all views and opinions in this account are my own.

    by slinkerwink on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 09:42:53 AM PDT

  •  Time to make some bread!!!! (5+ / 0-)

    Garrhgsfsafasd! or...where the heck is Lieber?

    by Hedwig on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 09:45:47 AM PDT

    •  No, scones would be appropriate (8+ / 0-)

      I heard it on the radio this morning.

      "People should not be afraid of their government; governments should be afraid of their people." --V

      by MikeTheLiberal on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 09:51:44 AM PDT

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      •  oooh (3+ / 0-)

        I love scones, but the only place around here to get real clotted cream is Whole Foods, and even if I could afford to shop there, I wouldn't.

        There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast.

        by puzzled on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:13:41 AM PDT

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        •  Here is a nice scone repeice not tratidional at (7+ / 0-)

          all but still good:

          Toasted Oat Scones:

          Oatmeal scones are often not quite as good at their brethren. They languish on the racks at the bakery because they are often made just like other scones. This is a big mistake. The oats need a good toasting to bring out their full flavor and the raisins must be plumped in rum to give them a vanilla flavor these treats desperately need and are almost always missing. But enough talk; let’s bake!

          Ingredients:
          1 ½ cups rolled (not instant or quick!) oats
          1 ½ cups raisins, drained
          ¾ cup dark rum
          2 ¼ cups all purpose flour
          1/3 cup brown sugar (Dark is preferred, but either will do.)
          1 tablespoon baking powder (If you are baking above 5000 feet, use 2 teaspoons)
          1 teaspoon salt
          8 tablespoons (1 stick) cold butter
          1 cup whole milk, plus on tablespoon for brushing the tops
          2 tablespoons sugar
          1 teaspoon ground cinnamon

          Baking Pans: 2 baking sheets, one lined with parchment paper

          Method:  Preheat the oven to 325 degrees.

          Scatter the rolled oats on a baking sheet in a single layer. Toast in the oven for 8-10 minutes.  Check them after 8 minutes, but you will probably need 10.  The oats will be just a little bit brown and fragrant when they are done.

          Remove them from oven and set aside.

          In a small sauce pan, combine the rum and raisins. Place it over medium high heat just until the rum boils. Remove it from the heat and allow it to cool.

          Turn the oven up to 450 degrees.

          Into a large bowl measure the flour, sugar, baking powder and salt. Cut the butter into 10 roughly equal pieces and drop into the flour.

          Using your hands, rub the flour onto the butter pieces until it has been equally distributed. It will look something like rough cornmeal at this point.

          Make a well in the flour and pour in the milk. Using a fork, mix it until the dough comes together. It will be rather wet and sticky.

          Mix in the oats. Drain the raisins and mix them into the dough mixture.

          Turn the dough out onto a liberally-floured work surface and turn the dough a couple of times to coat it with flour.

          Divide the dough into three equal portions and form them into disks about 5” wide. Using a sharp, floured knife; cut each disk into four triangles by cutting once vertically and once horizontally.

          Place the scones on the baking sheet with the parchment paper.

          In a small bowl, combine the sugar and cinnamon. Brush the tops of the scones with the remaining milk and sprinkle the cinnamon sugar over the top.

          Baking: Slip thee baking pan into the oven on a middle rack and bake for 12 minutes. Check to see if they are done by pressing on one of the scones. It should be firm, but not hard. If they are still wet, give them up to another three minutes; but watch it.  If these are overcooked, they will be dry.

          Remove the baking sheet from the oven and place the scones on a wire rack to cool

          Getting Democrats together and keeping them that way is like herding cats that are high on meth, through L.A., during an earthquake, in the rain -6.25, -6.10

          by Something the Dog Said on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:27:08 AM PDT

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        •  A recipe for fake clotted cream: (4+ / 0-)

          1 cup heavy cream
          1/3 cup sour cream
          1 tablespoon confectioners' sugar
          Directions

          Using a whisk attachment on the mixer, whip heavy cream until stiff peaks form. Remove from mixer, and hand whisk in the sour cream and confectioners' sugar until just combined. Store in refrigerator.

          It works in a pinch.

          You have rights in Iowa!

          by deweysmom on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 11:10:57 AM PDT

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  •  Not particularly a fan of the royals (13+ / 0-)

    But surely we can let anyone who wants to spend a day fantasizing about princes and princesses a brief respite from the grinding reality of racists nipping at the president's heels and arrogant right wingers attacking the livelihoods of the middle class.

    It's little more than a bit of "puppy cam" to relieve the burden of relentless reality.

    Personally, I'm probably going to watch the Shiba Inu puppy cam for a little while today. But if someone else would like to watch William and Kate, it's their privilege.

  •  Aw, come on! My daughter (6+ / 0-)

    and I can't wait for it.

    Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you.

    by chicago minx on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 09:47:08 AM PDT

    •  You're more than welcome to it. (1+ / 0-)
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      I have to much family history of being oppressed by the English Monarchy to get teary eyed about them wedding.

      Getting Democrats together and keeping them that way is like herding cats that are high on meth, through L.A., during an earthquake, in the rain -6.25, -6.10

      by Something the Dog Said on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 09:49:35 AM PDT

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      •  Who said anything about getting (6+ / 0-)

        teary eyed?  It's like watching "Say Yes to the Dress" and enjoying the frou frou of somebody else's wedding without the pressure of it being your own.  

        Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you.

        by chicago minx on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 09:53:22 AM PDT

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        •  yes (1+ / 0-)
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          My husband catches me watching "Say Yes to the Dress" and shakes his head in dismay and confusion.  It's mindless fluff, and besides, what else is on Friday nights?

          I don't know that I'll be setting my alarm for oh-dark-thirty tomorrow, but I'll definitely watch a bit of the pageantry.  I've spent enough time in London to be one of those really annoying people who points out familiar landmarks on the teevee.

          There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast.

          by puzzled on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:16:23 AM PDT

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        •  Love say Yes to the Dress! (1+ / 0-)
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          I actually went to that salon for my wedding dress.  I'm not sure what I was thinking.  My MIL accompanied me and I lasted literally 15 minutes.  I was never a frilly dress girl and ended up with a tea length very non traditional gown but I love that show.

        •  The dress? (0+ / 0-)

          Okay, I admit it. I want to see the dress, although I myself don't necessarily care to ever wear one again. (Along with high heels and panty hose.)

          Oh, yeah, and "the kiss" on the balcony.

          The rest is kinda boring.

          Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal

          by RJDixon74135 on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:28:01 AM PDT

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  •  Just watch for the show (6+ / 0-)

    Because if anyone can put on a show, it's the Windsor family.

    Hopefully, these two will lead a less-interesting life than Will's parents.

    "People should not be afraid of their government; governments should be afraid of their people." --V

    by MikeTheLiberal on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 09:50:25 AM PDT

  •  The world needs more royal elopements. /nt (5+ / 0-)

    "There's nothing in the dark that's not there when the lights are on" ~ Rod Serling

    by jwinIL14 on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 09:50:37 AM PDT

    •  Yep. They could have flown to Las Vegas (1+ / 0-)
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      and gotten married by an Elvis impersonator. Elvis' costume would have been more tasteful than the dudes at Westminster.

      “I’ve come to the conclusion that people who say they never have had a second thought most probably have never had a first!”‘

      by BobSmith415 on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:21:10 AM PDT

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      •  Sister also wears white. (0+ / 0-)

        lol ... we all knew the idiots in media-land had to invent any controversy.

        God bless PBS & BBC thoughts that count usually.

        "There's nothing in the dark that's not there when the lights are on" ~ Rod Serling

        by jwinIL14 on Fri Apr 29, 2011 at 09:45:44 PM PDT

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  •  RE; war of 1812-1814 (8+ / 0-)

    I believe it was you guys that invaded Canada in the hope you could annex us to the US.

    Didn't work :-)

    Exspectamus et vigilamus: quod nolite somnamus.

    by tapu dali on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 09:51:58 AM PDT

  •  The Duchy of Grand Fenwick has these displays (3+ / 0-)
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    every now and again you know......Get used to it...LOL

  •  All in all (1+ / 0-)
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    We probably spend as much pointless money on our Presidency as they do on their monarchy (Costly House BJ investigations in the Clinton era come rapidly to mind.)

    If apes evolved from humans, why are there still humans?

    by Bobs Telecaster on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 09:55:05 AM PDT

    •  Yeah, but our President actually DOES things. (1+ / 0-)
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      Like, y'know, run the Executive Branch.

      Not to mention that nobody alive in Britain got to vote for who would be Queen.

      •  Queen Elisabeth is the head of state (0+ / 0-)

        the Prime Minister serves at her behest and is the head of government.  Just sayin'...

        I really need a new signature that is lofty enough for DK4 - but I just haven't eaten enough arugula and sipped enough lattes to come up with one today. Sorry folks!

        by RethinkEverything on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:16:38 AM PDT

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        •  Yeah, so? That's THEIR rules - - (0+ / 0-)

          we here in the US of A bow to no monarchs.

          I mean that: what a bunch of anachronistic, left-over twaddle (to use a wonderful britticism)!

          The Brits are welcome to do as they please - - I resent any red-blooded US citizen who gets over-excited by arbitrary royalty BS.  Aping the British (especially their royals) just wrankles my butt.

          Carry on, y'all.

          Torture is Wrong! We live near W so you don't have to. Send love.

          by tom 47 on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:42:05 AM PDT

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          •  You miss the point. (1+ / 0-)
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            One way or other, someone has to perform the duties of Head of State. Most parliamentary republics have some form of elected President. (Granted, a ceremonial President is cheaper than a monarch.)

            The thing that people keep forgetting is that Elizabeth II remains Queen and Head of State of the 16 Commonwealth Realms (including the UK) because there isn't the popular will in any of them to change it. Since the early 1980s, even the former Dominions (Australia, New Zealand, and Canada) have had sole control over their constitutions. Australia came close to becoming a republic a couple of years ago, but Parliament rigged the referendum.

            I don't advocate for monarchy--I just enjoy the free entertainment.

            "Space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence." --Dr. Leonard (Bones) McCoy

            by homogenius on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 12:40:34 PM PDT

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        •  And if she actually USED her power... (0+ / 0-)

          ...over the objections of Parliament, I think she'd find that support for her still being the nominal head of state would erode rather quickly.

          It seems to me that the constitutional monarchy of the UK is based on an unwritten understanding that while the monarch "officially" has all the power, he or she keeps that power by never actually using it unless Parliament asks her to (i.e., with a no-confidence vote or something like that).

          •  Most likely that this would be the case... (0+ / 0-)

            but it is entirely possible that the opposite could occur - a detested/corrupt PM and parliament coupled with a populist monarch with a bug in his/her bonnet about restoring order...  The right circumstances could lead to a dissolusion of parliament and the monarch becoming head of state and head of government, with the people cheering all the way!

            I really need a new signature that is lofty enough for DK4 - but I just haven't eaten enough arugula and sipped enough lattes to come up with one today. Sorry folks!

            by RethinkEverything on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 01:10:02 PM PDT

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  •  Seen one royal wedding you've seen them all (1+ / 0-)
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    Bleck!!

    "Time is for careful people, not passionate ones."

    by roseeriter on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 09:55:35 AM PDT

  •  Dreading? (0+ / 0-)

    I wouldn't say that I DREAD the E! News channel, Entertainment Tonight, reality shows featuring young, horny, drama queens (of either sex) with inflated egos, or whatever passes for talent competitions these days.

    So I don't particularly DREAD the Royal Wedding, either. Or mosquitoes. Or beach sand wending its way into the various cracks and orifices of my body.

    Regards,
    Corporate Dog

    -----
    We didn't elect Obama to be an expedient president. We elected him to be a great one. -- Eugene Robinson

    by Corporate Dog on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 09:56:55 AM PDT

    •  psst - the "pre-wedding" hoopla coverage (1+ / 0-)
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      starts at 3:00 am Eastern on most channels.  ;)

      In a controversy the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves. " - Buddha Shakyamuni

      by Actbriniel on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:12:28 AM PDT

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      •  You know what might be more entertaining? (1+ / 0-)
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        The inevitable YouTube videos that people will make of themselves WATCHING the fucking thing at 3:00am Eastern.

        That ought to make for some good people watching.

        Regards,
        Corporate Dog

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        We didn't elect Obama to be an expedient president. We elected him to be a great one. -- Eugene Robinson

        by Corporate Dog on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:25:44 AM PDT

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  •  Lighten up, Francis... (4+ / 0-)

    If you don't care, don't watch it. There's plenty of other shit on TV.

    Just another day in Oceania.

    by drshatterhand on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 09:56:57 AM PDT

    •  Francis....aka 'Pyscho'..... (3+ / 0-)
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      Psycho: The name's Francis Soyer, but everybody calls me Psycho. Any of you guys call me Francis, and I'll kill you.
      Leon: Ooooooh.
      Psycho: You just made the list, buddy. And I don't like nobody touching my stuff. So just keep your meat-hooks off. If I catch any of you guys in my stuff, I'll kill you. Also, I don't like nobody touching me. Now, any of you homos touch me, and I'll kill you.
      Sergeant Hulka: Lighten up, Francis.

  •  It'll all be over by the time I wake up (0+ / 0-)

    And I'll miss out on a lot by not having a TV.  I plan to spend Friday working and then celebrate by listening to some Wilco and drinking a fine American beer.

    •  My mother-in-law tells me they're rebroadcasting.. (2+ / 0-)
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      Something the Dog Said, Nedsdag

      ... here, in the US, on Saturday.

      I'm not sure what's worse: sitting through this shit, or sitting through this shit knowing that you're watching something that's already past-tense.

      Then again, I don't get why people tape ballgames, either.

      Regards,
      Corporate Dog

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      We didn't elect Obama to be an expedient president. We elected him to be a great one. -- Eugene Robinson

      by Corporate Dog on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:06:17 AM PDT

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      •  That's why I won't tape it or watch it live. (0+ / 0-)

        Hell, YouTube has royal weddings clips going back to Elizabeth and Philip's 1947 wedding. Most likely the full tape will eventually show up there within hours after Will and Kate's kiss on the balcony.

        "Do they call you Rush because you're in a rush to eat?" -"Stutterin' John" Melendez to Rush Limbaugh.

        by Nedsdag on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 11:50:42 AM PDT

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      •  "Past tense"? (0+ / 0-)

        Nah, we're way past tents--we're living in bungalows!

        "Space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence." --Dr. Leonard (Bones) McCoy

        by homogenius on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 12:42:22 PM PDT

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  •  My wedding was far more royal (18+ / 0-)

    We were two queens getting married. Pomp and circumstance, baby!

  •  Still pissed... (5+ / 0-)

    ...that you didn't get invited?  ;-)

    Oh, there you are, Perry. -Phineas -SLB-

    by boran2 on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:01:25 AM PDT

  •  its just easy content (1+ / 0-)
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    its just real easy bullshit content.  Thats all networks want.  Networks do one thing, sell advertising space,  they'll look to use any content they can to attract some viewers in order to sell their advertising time, thats it.

    This type shit is just easy ass content they can exploit to get some ratings to sell some ad time.

    Bad is never good until worse happens

    by dark daze on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:04:40 AM PDT

  •  It's fantasy (1+ / 0-)
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    homogenius

    It's really nothing more to be concerned about than any of the summer blockbusters soon to be blanketing TV commercials.  Do you get upset when they release a new Pirates movie?  Or Harry Potter?  Or any "blow 'em up" pic?  As such, they're all just distractions from our day-to-day existence of how to pay our bills while wars are breaking out all over the place, etc.

    Just be glad that you're not a British taxpayer footing the bill.

  •  No worries, Nickelodeon's having a (2+ / 0-)
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    SpongeBob marathon - I plan to be glued to that and remain blissfully unaware of above-ocean transpirings.

    •  ..speaking of "Pirate" movies: (1+ / 0-)
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      I absolutely LOVE the four-part sailor's chorus of the theme at the opening of the SBSP movie.  Serious. Choral. Music!
      Well, maybe not entirely serious.

      Then, there's Patrick in his heels and fishnets after the big number for King Neptune, going to turn out the lights: "I got this, SpongeBob".

      Seriously humorous spoof.  Enjoy the marathon.

      Torture is Wrong! We live near W so you don't have to. Send love.

      by tom 47 on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:48:06 AM PDT

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  •  Your Brit-ches are too tight? (6+ / 0-)

    I watched when Di and Charles married back in '81 and I'll watch this one. I see nothing wrong with taking a break from our own reality for one day and watching a fantasy wedding come to life.  Besides, that's exactly how the Brits feel with these events.  They get a day off and can celebrate with the happy couple.  And frankly, after losing his mum, I couldn't be happier for William.  And I'll get to see the rascal Harry enjoy the day, too.  lol!

  •  Oh I don't know (5+ / 0-)

    I'll tune in, if for no other reason than I thinkk the American intelligence services could learn something abot how to keep a secret vis a vis, Kate's dress.

    But, meh.  They're a nice young couple who have better manners and better dress sense than many of their non-royal contemporaries.  

    Our promises are made in proportion to our hopes, but kept in proportion to our fears.-LaRouchefoucauld

    by luvsathoroughbred on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:11:55 AM PDT

  •  I think that if you take the time to write a diary (2+ / 0-)

    to rant about it, you have already disproved your opening statement:

    I could not possibly care less about the wedding of Kate Middleton and Prince William

    You obviously care a great deal about how much attention it is getting, how useless the whole ceremony is, how wasteful, how retrograde, etc.  This too is an (admittedly negative) form of caring and a continuation of the public attention being lavished on the event.

    Personally, I agree with your annoyance, but I think the best approach is just to ignore it.  I promise, it will go away soon.

    Nothing amuses me more than the easy manner with which everybody settles the abundance of those who have a great deal less than themselves. --Jane Austen

    by feeny on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:15:14 AM PDT

    •  Not all. I don't care about the wedding qua weddin (1+ / 0-)
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      I do care about the distraction that it is.

      Getting Democrats together and keeping them that way is like herding cats that are high on meth, through L.A., during an earthquake, in the rain -6.25, -6.10

      by Something the Dog Said on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:29:09 AM PDT

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      •  Ah, but that is the ying and yang of the royal (1+ / 0-)
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        hoopla.  Part of the media attention is exactly over this issue--do you or don't you care?  But I'm really not criticizing you, Dog.  I'm just pointing out that in discussing it we are both participating in the perpetuation of the very discourse we find shallow and distracting.  ;-)

        Nothing amuses me more than the easy manner with which everybody settles the abundance of those who have a great deal less than themselves. --Jane Austen

        by feeny on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:53:19 AM PDT

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  •  Oh come on now (4+ / 0-)
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    The world needs some fairy tale some distraction.  I look forward to seeing all the ladies and their hats.  You know it does do the world some good to focus on something happy now and again, and I think it's probably every womans fantasy to have a princess wedding.  What's wrong with making another fantasy.

    Every moment in life contains an off ramp. Never be afraid to use it.

    by Adept2u on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:16:02 AM PDT

  •  As someone who lives in London, (7+ / 0-)

    YES, you are cranky.  This is a celebration for the country.  When I first moved over, I disagreed that the country still allowed a monarchy.  I have since changed my views.  The Royal Family brings in MAJOR tourism money.  The young royals are amusing and make great tabloid.  The new generation is pretty down to earth.

    Prince William is marrying a commoner.  I know that in America we would roll our eyes but this is a huge deal here in UK.  It means that any young girl/boy in the country can dream about one day being Queen/King/Prince/Duke (more likely if guy).

    I'm going to a street party at my local pub.  I'm excited.  I get to meet my neighbors, share some food, get drunk and have a great time.

    And even in down times, people need a reason to celebrate.

    This is something uniquely British and I'm super excited to experience it.

    •  For Britain, great, yay! For the United States, (0+ / 0-)

      not so much.

      Getting Democrats together and keeping them that way is like herding cats that are high on meth, through L.A., during an earthquake, in the rain -6.25, -6.10

      by Something the Dog Said on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:23:51 AM PDT

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    •  Well, she's not exactly Eliza Doolittle. (1+ / 0-)
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      Her parents run a multi-million dollar business and she went to an elite boarding school. She's no council home girl so to speak.

      I wish the best for them. I'm sure it'll last because they actually knew each other for quite some time, unlike William's parents.

      "Do they call you Rush because you're in a rush to eat?" -"Stutterin' John" Melendez to Rush Limbaugh.

      by Nedsdag on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 11:57:11 AM PDT

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  •  I'm Watching..... (3+ / 0-)
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    KayCeSF, sideboth, swampyankee

    I'm a night owl.  I'd be up anyway.  My life can't only be about that windbag Donald Trump & his lousy network.  

    I was a big fan of Diana's, have been to London twice, saw the tunnel she died in as well as the Palace she lived in.  

    I'm happy for William.  I want to see Westminster Abbey transformed into a Royal English Garden.....which is the plan.  I may even go buy some scones, clotted cream & jellies.  Cheerio!

    •  Oooh. I want what your getting! :) (2+ / 0-)
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      sideboth, swampyankee

      Me, too, a fan of Diana's and we flew to London days after the wedding and whole city was decorated and the Brits were still celebrating.  I also got to see My Fair Lady while we were there.  We went a second time and alas, the production was closed down for that week to renovate the theatre, so my daughter didn't get to see it.

      I can't wait to see Westminster transformed, too.  I love going through the abbey!  History all around and under your feet.  Amazes me, actually.

      Cheerio to you!

  •  It's just a new reality show, and a temporary one (3+ / 0-)

    Ohhh - what will her dress be like? Oooooh - where will the honeymoon be? Hmmm- look who was invited (and who wasn't)
    It'll all be over before Monday.

    That said, with all the noise they've been making about security concerns, I sincerely hope it remains a fluffy piece of "not-really-news".

  •  Now available! Comemorative plates from (0+ / 0-)

    the official UK Gift Company!

    “I’ve come to the conclusion that people who say they never have had a second thought most probably have never had a first!”‘

    by BobSmith415 on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:27:51 AM PDT

  •  All light hearted fun (0+ / 0-)

    That has a strange Money/Church/State/Media feel to it.  But then, didn't Thomas Jefferson write in his little July 4 note to King George, that by the grace of god, royalty is so much more equal than everyone else?  And entitled to pageantry and adulation.  Or something like that.

  •  For humorous, local perspective (0+ / 0-)

    of tomorrow events, people might want to check out the BBC Radio1 breakfast show with Chris Moyles.  I'm a big fan and they're not getting the day off tomorrow as they opted to stay in the trenches and cover the early morning festivities prior to the actual ceremony.  You can listen to the live stream starting at 1:30 AM EST or listen later to a streaming re-broadcast of the show using the BBC iplayer.

  •  Royalty rejected (2+ / 0-)

    I love your point about the two wars. People seem to forget that our country is FOUNDED on the fundamental principle that that there is no such thing as royalty! Do people remember a little document called the Declaration of Independence? All men are created equal? Please!

    I, too, wish William and Kate well, but we don't need to focus on it 24/7 for many weeks (and probably continuing in future months!).

    From the ashes we can build another day.

    by onig on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:32:03 AM PDT

    •  Future months. (0+ / 0-)

      Oy... it just dawned on me:  If she gets pregnant, will there be a pregnant watch?  Will we hear how many days she got morning sickness?  

      Will the ultrasounds be shown realtime on television?

      Will Diane Sawyer fly over and help the mother-to-be shop for bibs?

      Oy.

      To every millionaire who decries they don't want their grandchildren paying for the deficit, I say: PAY MORE TAXES NOW and your grandkids won't have a deficit burden.

      by gooderservice on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 03:45:30 PM PDT

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  •  The British Royal family industry generates (2+ / 0-)
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    sideboth, Catte Nappe

    a huge amount of income for the country as a whole.  I've read reports that for every British pound spent on the Royals generates something like 5 pounds for the country.

    While most are happy to have the day off, celebrate a couple getting married, and hopes of a new beginning many are seeing $ signs all over the place to line their pockets with.  Just think of all the business this wedding has generated!!

    I'll probably be watching..... it's a few hours of pomp and ceremony.  A fairy tale come to life.

  •  Reminds me of 30 years ago (1+ / 0-)
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    Nedsdag

    My wife and I got married in June of that year. The news was turning itself inside out over the George/Spencer wedding.

    30 years on, we're still married.  That other marriage -- the one the news covered -- didn't pan out.

  •  The families are footing most of it (1+ / 0-)
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    Something the Dog Said

    Every flower that you shatter; we will plant again!

    by merrily1000 on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:39:54 AM PDT

  •  You want anti-British entertainment (2+ / 0-)
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    badger, Nedsdag

    I recommend 'Breaker' Morant and Gallipoli, two films about English exploitation of colonials as cannon fodder.

    I couldn't care less about the wedding, but I confess an interest in the decline and fall of Camilla Parker-Bowles.

    into the blue again, after the money's gone

    by Prof Haley on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:40:35 AM PDT

    •  hahaha. (1+ / 0-)
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      Prof Haley

      Camilla looks sour of late.  ha.

      •  Of late? ;-) (2+ / 0-)
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        Nedsdag, KayCeSF

        You mean she used to look sweet?

        Actually I've never minded her. A part of me always cheers when rich and/or powerful men fall for women who don't fit the mainstream ideal of attractiveness.

        This is not my beautiful sig line.

        by Floja Roja on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 11:44:29 AM PDT

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        •  LOL! Oh, it's just that the other day (1+ / 0-)
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          when Kate was walking in the crowds of people, Camilla was behind her and had her eyes on Kate with the most sour look on her face.  I spied a bit of jealousy in her expression.

          •  Actually... (2+ / 0-)
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            I believe most reports are that they're getting on well. William and Harry made their peace with her long ago. I would surmise that everything is exactly hunky-dory--you'll note that the Queen hasn't bestowed any royal honours on her except the QEII family honour (Even Sophie has received a GCVO).

            "Space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence." --Dr. Leonard (Bones) McCoy

            by homogenius on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 12:48:06 PM PDT

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            •  Tabloids this side of the pond (1+ / 0-)
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              [i.e., US gossip rags] say that Elizabeth is so disappointed with her son [not for being unfaithful to Diana, but for letting his infidelity become public], and has never had any affection for Camilla, that all she needs to retire in favor of Wills is for him to be married and for her own reign to hit 60 years next year. Unless some genuine disaster happens in the next year, Charles will never be King. As gossip goes, how would you weigh it?

              into the blue again, after the money's gone

              by Prof Haley on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 05:25:32 PM PDT

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  •  Decided to paint the bathroom (0+ / 0-)

    And frankly, I think it is the ultimate in chutzpah for the lame stream media to try to force us to be interested, when surveys clearly show that Americans can't care less.

    Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

    by MrMichaelMT on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:46:53 AM PDT

  •  These mixed weddings - between men and (9+ / 0-)

    women - never work. Why couldn't Prince William just elope with one of the stable boys or something? Now, that would really have been fascinating.

    We're shocked by a naked nipple, but not by naked aggression.

    by Lepanto on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:52:37 AM PDT

  •  Um, actually (3+ / 0-)
    Prince William is a Windsor, so what?
    The royal family descends from the house of Saxe-Coburg, if I'm not mistaken. IIRC, they took the name "Windsor" at the start of WW I to downplay their German heritage.

    Al Qeada is a faith-based initiative.

    by drewfromct on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:54:38 AM PDT

  •  Personally, I'm on your side (2+ / 0-)
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    sideboth, Floja Roja

    But my wife is not.

    She's a huge pomp and circumstance fan, and this is the world cup of pomp and circumstance.  She'll be getting up at 3:00 AM to watch it live.

    All I can say is live and let live.  There is always lots of money spent on entertainment that parts of society can't see the purpose of.

    OTOH, there's no reason for you not to enjoy your anti-brittish day.  

    Might I suggest Monty Python and the Holy Grail for a healthy dose of lese majeste?

    Numbers are like people . . . Torture them enough and they'll tell you anything.

    by Actuary4Change on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:55:58 AM PDT

  •  I estimate... (1+ / 0-)
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    Something the Dog Said

    ...I've burned about 400 calories to date scrolling past all the articles.

    With each moment of worry we give up a moment of living.

    by dov12348 on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:56:06 AM PDT

  •  For those bemused by the Monarchy's (2+ / 0-)
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    Something the Dog Said, dsb

    roll, someone posted this the other day and you should watch it.  (h/t to whomever posted it.  Wish I could remember.)

  •  Not much interest in Guatemala (1+ / 0-)
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    Something the Dog Said

    (A survey of 3 people.) The woman who cuts my hair didn't know when the wedding would occur. even though CNN en español  was on in the salon with a countdown (17 hours at that moment) to the wedding. Guatemalans frequently blame England for stealing Belize from us, and maps of the country often still show Belize as a department of Guatemala. Interest may be higher elsewhere in Latin America. Someone else would have to weigh in.

    "I had seen the universe as it begins for all things. It was, in reality, a child's universe, a tiny and laughing universe." Loren Eiseley

    by cadejo4 on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 11:29:17 AM PDT

  •  I'm with you on this. (1+ / 0-)
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    Something the Dog Said

    This whole wedding is just making me cranky, except for some of the good snark that is cropping up and helping to alleviate my angst.  I'm a bit of a curmudgeon anyway - I thought Chuck and Di's wedding was deadly boring.  Maybe it's because I never wanted to get married, the failure rate among families I knew growing up was something close to 99%.

    The biggest question remains: Are Kate's sleeves going to be bigger than her head?  Inquiring minds want to know. Or not. ;-)

    But I admit the cake sounds good.

    This is not my beautiful sig line.

    by Floja Roja on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 11:42:55 AM PDT

  •  Forget the wedding ... (0+ / 0-)

    ... grab a brew and watch the NFL draft, day II.

    •  Or watch paint dry. (1+ / 0-)
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      Or grass grow.

      But I'll stay up to watch--We should know after 12:30 am PDT what they will be know as after the marriage. I'm skeptical about the idea of the Queen allowing her to be officially known as "Princess Catherine". I know that's standard in other European monarchies, but they've had more generational change and different traditions. My best guess is Duke of Cambridge since the last Duke became William IV. What I think would be fun would be creating William Earl of Middleton as his subsidiary title.

      "Space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence." --Dr. Leonard (Bones) McCoy

      by homogenius on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 12:54:45 PM PDT

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  •  It's indoctrination... (1+ / 0-)
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    US media will cover the royal wedding non-stop, so we all get used to the idea of a hereditary aristocracy again... because that's what a permanent elimination of the estate tax will create.

  •  The wedding is helpful when listening to the news (1+ / 0-)
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    Something the Dog Said

    When they start talking about the British wedding, I know that they have run out of real news and it's time to change the station.

  •  Party Pooper. (2+ / 0-)

    So don't watch--that just means more champagne and snacks for the rest of us. LOL

    "Space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence." --Dr. Leonard (Bones) McCoy

    by homogenius on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 12:55:32 PM PDT

    •  P.S. The music looks pretty good. (0+ / 0-)

      Lots of Parry. I'm looking forward to hearing the new Rutter commission and the new fanfare "Valiant and Brave". I'm rather surprised they're using Jerusalem as one of the hymns--I thought it was generally considered too chauvinistic (although I have fond memories of it from Chariots of Fire). I admit it seems odd that there are no soloists.

      "Space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence." --Dr. Leonard (Bones) McCoy

      by homogenius on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 12:57:59 PM PDT

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      •  P.P.S. I've changed my tiara pick... (3+ / 0-)

        I was cheering for the Girls of Britain and Ireland tiara (which I still like), but I'm now leaning towards Queen Mary's Fringe Tiara (both the Queen and Princess Anne wore it on their wedding days). I used to think I liked the Kokoshnik Tiara better (QEII wore it to the White House on July 4, 1976), but now that I've seen close-ups, I like the Fringe better. Besides, I think the Kokoshnik is too large for a young woman (along with the Delhi Durbar Tiara and Boucheron Honeycomb Tiara, both of which Camilla fancies).

        I think there's virtually no chance she would borrow the Spencer Family Tiara and not much chance of the Cambridge Lover's Knot Tiara (both closely associated with Diana).

        Check out the Tiara-pedia at the Mad Hattery web site.

        "Space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence." --Dr. Leonard (Bones) McCoy

        by homogenius on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 01:05:17 PM PDT

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  •  I, too, resent the American networks (0+ / 0-)

    spending millions of dollars to obsessively cover this wedding, the shoes, the underwear, the dress, the napkins, the appetizer, the underarm deodorant the couple will use.

    The networks don't respect the American people.  If they did, they would work hard to get us the accurate information we need to know.

    I don't begrudge the Americans who want to watch this wedding and will enjoy it.  Fine.  But this crap doesn't belong on so-called "news" stations.

    To every millionaire who decries they don't want their grandchildren paying for the deficit, I say: PAY MORE TAXES NOW and your grandkids won't have a deficit burden.

    by gooderservice on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 03:38:32 PM PDT

  •  OMG! I thought they said "Will & GRACE!" (0+ / 0-)

    But to be fair, as an austerity measure, after 3p.m. it's a cash bar.

    "Have I shocked you by the dirty things I wrote to you?" --James Joyce,To Nora, Dublin 6, December 1909 Oops. Wrong inspirational quote!

    by Roger Burke on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 05:10:20 PM PDT

  •  asdf (0+ / 0-)

    If my friend who lives 5 miles from the palace can deal with the traffic interruptions, I can handle the interruption in the television lineup here in the States.

    Weathering Michigan's recessions since the '70s.

    by jennifree2bme on Thu Apr 28, 2011 at 10:15:48 PM PDT

  •  I'm dreading assuming the position for the (0+ / 0-)

    GOP royal consummation.  

    The community of fools might be small if it were not such an accomplished proselytizer.

    by ZedMont on Fri Apr 29, 2011 at 07:15:05 AM PDT

  •  Bread and circuses, minus the bread (0+ / 0-)

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

    by blue aardvark on Fri Apr 29, 2011 at 08:20:39 AM PDT

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