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Here's a story, that like me, you may have mentally filed as "Learn about Later" ...

Well Today, is 'Later' .... for me, anyways.  Takes a few minutes, you may be surprised ...


Despite Denials, New Emails Suggest US Chamber Was Aware Of Private Security Firms' Espionage Work
by Scott Keyes, thinkprogress.org -- on Feb 14th, 2011

[...]
As ThinkProgress laid out last week, the lobbying law firm Hunton & Williams (H&W) served as the go-between  for the Chamber and three private security firms — HBGary, Palantir, and Berico Technologies — who were collectively known as "Team Themis." Emails indicate that three top lawyers at Hunton & Williams — John Woods, Bob Quackenboss, and Richard Wyatt — met on multiple occasions with the Chamber in order to brief them on Team Themis's proposals.
[...]


American Chamber of Commerce's Dirty Tricks Plan Leaked by Anonymous
sixthestate.net -- February 12th, 2011

[...]
According to coverage at Firedoglake, last November HBGary, Palantir, and Berico Technologies also put together a plan to work for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, with the Hunton & Williams law firm acting as an intermediary, presumably for plausible deniability. [Aaron] Barr put together some initial background information on connections between Chamber Watch and the labour movement as part of a proposal for a longer-term intelligence contract, pulling in $250,000-$300,000 per month from the Chamber of Commerce, presumably with the intention of monitoring connections between union officials and Chamber of Commerce critics. Together, these companies referred to themselves as THEMIS.

The initial THEMIS plan, dated November 15, divided work into a preliminary Phase I (cost: $200,000) and a full-scale Phase II (cost: $2 million). The first phase was just getting things moving and performing some preliminary estimates, like preparing "target folders" against the "Top 10" critics of the Chamber of Commerce.
[...]

Think Progress suggest Barr began assembling the "target folders," including pictures and personal information of the family members of staffers at the labour groups and anti-Chamber of Commerce groups.

Isn't this what in other contexts, would be called an "Enemies List" ?

Hello Big Brother ...  It must finally be "1984", as Orwell predicted ... just a few decades late ...



Of course, our dedicated staff at dailykos was covering the 'Team Themis' -- Chamber of Commerce cyber-spying story, even as the story was breaking, a few months ago.  Here are a few snippets of their fine analysis ...  


Chamber lobbyist says 'all options on the table' in fight against Obama to keep funding secret
by Meteor Blades for Daily Kos -- Apr 27, 2011

Whatever the mission statement on the wall at Chamber headquarters says in addition to profits over people, the organization's main objective at the moment seems to be burying Americans deep in disinformation. Anything that stands even slightly in the way of that, as the executive order on transparency would do, is bound to be included in that disinformation campaign. Nothing is more inimical to the Chamber's long-term goals than allowing rank-and-file Americans know who is behind so many of the lies of its members. Like the ones about climate change that keep the nation scurrying headlong down a dead-end path.
{ ... Speaking of Transparency -- This just in ...  on May 06, 2011 -- FoxNews.com  ...}

GOP Warns Obama Not to Issue Executive Order for Government Contractors

Republicans are warning President Obama not to issue an executive order that would require government contractors to disclose their political donations.


And this ... from another early reporter of the 'Team Themis' story ...

HBGary, Themis, bloggers, and traditional media: What a tangled Web
by Joan McCarter for Daily Kos -- Feb 15, 2011

[...] it's a fascinating story, and not just a little disquieting. The Chamber of Commerce, of course, denies any involvement in the scheme, claiming "that HBGary's proposal 'was never discussed with anyone at the Chamber' and that 'the Chamber was not aware of these proposals until HBGary's e-mails leaked.'"
[ leaked emails ...]

And this is just from a small portion of the e-mails that have been read so far. The possibility of the damaging revelations to still come as the e-mails are sifted through seem limitless. But one important revelation to come out so far isn't necessarily that damaging to either the Chamber or BOA or Hunton Williams as much as it is to traditional media. This is revealed in the PowerPoint one of Team Themis -- Palantir -- created  referencing Glenn Greenwald [...]


Here's another PowerPoint explaining "the technology capabilities" that Team Themis, can bring to YOUR Corporate Organization:

Corporate Information Reconnaissance Cell

[ Slide Presentation ]


(pdf)


Team Themis

Purpose:

Develop a corporate information reconnaissance service to aid legal investigations through the open source collection of information on target groups and individuals that appear organized to extort specific concessions through online slander campaigns.


Solution:

Develop collection solutions for information on individuals and groups of interest

 -- Standardize and store information in common DB for structured analysis

 -- Analyze digital artifacts and social links within common visual framework

 -- Report correlated information in individual and organizational profiles

[...]


'Online Slander' ??? ... like,  "The Chamber supports the Off-shoring of American Jobs." ???
[by jamess -- 10/13/2010]

Simply Slanderous!


Here's the Sales Pitch that 'Team Themis' gives to its Corporate clients -- The same "Information Reconnaissance" Plan, which as the leaked emails confirm, the Chamber of Commerce was in the midst of implementing, when this very detailed "ChamberLeaks Scandal" broke ...  forcing the Chamber's many adamant denials ... They know NOTHING!

"Pay no attention, to those Social Media 'infiltrators', behind that invisible Internet curtain ..."


Corporate Information Reconnaissance Cell  (pdf)

November 3, 2010

Berico Technologies, LLC
HBGary Federal, LLC
HBGary Federal, LLC


Submitted to:
Hunton and Williams, LLP  




Berico Technologies -- Be Smarter. Be Faster.

Corporate Information Reconnaissance Cell
Hunton & Williams, LLP

[Pg 2]

Background

Internet based communications, most predominately the growing spectrum of social media platforms, allow people to coordinate and communicate in a highly efficient and collaborative manner, even when vastly geographically distributed. These same services and technologies can also make it difficult to attribute information to specific entities. Anonymizing and misattribution technologies used to mask location and identity have become commonplace. In many cases, people and/or organizations use the inherent insecurity in Internet communications to conduct criminal or unethical activities. This represents a paradigm shift in the capability of individuals and small groups to conduct effective planning and execution of asymmetric operations and campaigns that can have major impacts on large organizations or corporations.
[...]


[Pg 5]

Data Collection

Team Themis consistently uses a combination of open source tools and data subscriptions combined with custom data collectors and pre-processors. Our unique methodology for collection is tailored for the social media environment; an iterative process of traditional data collection and social media link and artifact collection and analysis that allows us to link information correlations.
[...]

Primary information resources:

1. Background Checks
2. LexisNexis
3. LinkedIn
4. Facebook
5. Twitter
7. Other social media and location services
6. Subject specific sites, blogs, and forums
7. Well crafted search queries to search for digital artifacts
8. Other digital information discovered or given access to during the investigation

Social media encompasses vast amounts of information, much of it potentially ambiguous, so comparative analysis between information sources is key to derive accurate intelligence. The key to successful open source Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) is to iterate that would not otherwise be apparent. through the lifecycle quickly and accurately for as much complete data collection as possible. We have significant experience in this type of analysis and our methodology has proven out in real operations.

If/when Hunston & Williams LLP needs or desires web-content production, Team Themis will create realistic, useable web content to engage specific audiences for the purpose of gathering relevant, in-depth information. Direct target engagement can provide valuable information that cannot be acquired through other means: the detailed, focused task encompasses persona creation, [...]


[Pg 6]

Data Integration

Team Themis developers and engineers will leverage their extensive knowledge of Palantir's development and data integration environments to integrate all relevant data in one single, robust analytics layer. All of the data collected will be integrated seamlessly into the Palantir analysis framework to enhance link and artifact analysis. The platform's powerful approach to data integration will enable enterprises to unify data schemas, thus allowing analysts to depict and query otherwise disparate pieces of information in a secure and collaborative environment. Thanks to Palantir's sophisticated data integration capabilities, analysts within the CIRC will also be able to ingest both structured and unstructured data and perform real-time entity resolution against user-defined criteria on the fly, culminating with the fusion of multiple data sources and enrichment of single-source data feeds.

Palantir's open and dynamic ontology capability will provide Hunton & Williams LLP the flexibility to store and contextualize all types of data for analysis. Team Themis will work closely with the customer to conceptualize and implement a tailored ontology that considers the specific problem set and maps data into human-oriented models – this approach will drive effective decisionmaking grounded in deep understanding.

By providing high-value context and data enrichment, analysts will be empowered to develop robust link analysis between people, organizations, and/or other digital artifacts that will begin to form trends and allow statistical analysis. Team Themis will also develop specific helpers to further automate some data ingestion from commercial data sources as well as social media services and Google queries. [...]


[Pg 7]

Leverage the leading analytical platform. Team Themis will utilize the powerful Palantir platform as the centerpiece of the CIRC – empowering our collector/analysts with a cutting-edge analytical capability that enables rapid search and discovery, effective  collaboration, and intuitive knowledge management.

Palantir is recognized as the market-leading analytical platform for counter-intelligence (CI), counter-terrorism (CT), counter-narcotics (CN), and counter-proliferation (CP), currently deployed across elements of the intelligence, defense, and law enforcement communities that include SOCOM, DIA, CIA, and JIEDDO. The platform's proven record of success is grounded in the Palantir philosophy of augmenting and empowering analysts with a flexible, intuitive set of tools and capabilities that allow for analysis of data across relational, temporal, and geospatial domains.

Wow!  Forget about a Paper Trail -- Beware of your Digit Footprints, just waiting to be collated ... in a far off corporate war room.


Here's the Info Products and Service that 'Team Themis' delivers to its Corporate clients -- for a "small maintenance fee"  ...

"Never Forget -- Knowledge is Power ...  Does your firm have it?"


Corporate Information Reconnaissance Cell

Scope of Work

 
(pdf)

November 15, 2010


Berico Technologies, LLC
HBGary Federal, LLC
HBGary Federal, LLC


Submitted to:
Hunton and Williams, LLP  




Berico Technologies -- Be Smarter. Be Faster.

Corporate Information Reconnaissance Cell
Hunton & Williams, LLP


[Pg 2]

Team Themis Scope of Work

Team Themis will establish and operate a Corporate Information Reconnaissance Cell (CIRC) in order to provide Hunton & Williams, LLC with a full spectrum capability to collect, analyze, and affect adversarial entities and networks of interest. We will accomplish the following tasks in support of this effort:



Phase I (23 NOV 10 – 23 DEC 10)
[...]


Product
Description
Delivery

Intelligence Assessment (written)

Provide overall estimate of adversary composition, key leaders, capabilities, intentions/strategy, courses of actions, strengths/vulnerabilities, etc.
(One time)


Network/Link Analysis (charts/diagrams)

Provide graphic depiction of adversary network(s); highlight key individuals/roles; show relationships and vulnerabilities
(One time)


Target Folders

Develop in-depth target dossiers for key entities and groups; will include key biographic data, relationships, intentions, etc.
(One time – "Top 10" targets)




Phase II  (24 DEC 10 – 24 JUN 11)
[...]


Product
Description
Delivery

Intelligence Assessments (written)

Provide overall estimate of adversary composition, key leaders, capabilities, intentions/strategy, courses of actions, strengths/vulnerabilities, etc.
(Weekly and Monthly)


Special Assessments (written)

Provide focused, written assessment based on specific entity, group, or problem set
(As needed -- Significant Event)


Reporting (written)

Provide alerting and rapid analysis of significant events to enable situational awareness
(Daily)


Weekly Update Brief (slideshow)

Provide regular update on analytical findings, new key entities/groups, recommended actions, likely courses of action, etc.
(Weekly)


Network/Link Analysis (charts/diagrams)

Provide graphic depiction of adversary network(s); highlight key individuals/roles; show relationships and vulnerabilities; illustrate network effects based on customer actions
(Weekly)


Target Folders/Target Lists

Develop in-depth target dossiers for key entities and groups; will include key biographic data, relationships, intentions; develop target lists for prioritization of collection and effects
(As required – unlimited)


Indications and Warning (I&W) Reports

Conduct regular monitoring of key targets based on tailored indicators to provide warning/alerting for upcoming events
(Daily)


Predictive Analysis and Pattern Analysis

Leverage cutting-edge analytics to predict upcoming events based on historic trending and detailed knowledge of adversary
(As needed)


Vulnerability Analysis

Conduct detailed study of adversary networks, entities, and methods to identify potential vulnerabilities
(As needed)


Red Team Analysis

Conduct detailed study of friendly (customer) networks, entities, and methods to identify vulnerabilities and mitigate risks
(As needed)


[Pg 3]

Additional Capabilities (as needed)

Team Themis is also able to offer the following additional capabilities related to development and deployment of messaging campaigns to achieve specific objectives. Team Themis has extensive real-world experience conducting complex information operations campaigns. These campaigns typically include many different elements listed below with different messaging goals working towards larger objectives.


Product
Description
Delivery


Personas

Provide persona development and maintenance to effectively execute active message delivery.
(As Needed)


Landing Pages

Develop and maintain blogs, Facebook, twitter, or other web services to provide relevant consistent content to engage target audiences.
(As Needed)


Animated Content

Video and audio productions to deliver tailored messages.
(As Needed)


Mobile Applications

Information distribution and consumer engagement on mobile devices.
(As Needed)


Forensic Analysis

Conduct forensic analysis of media and software; potentially associate developed media with entities/groups
(As Needed)


Other Interactive Content

Design, develop, and deploy any means of new media content for purposes of satisfying mission requirements.
(As Needed)


[Pg 4]

Cost Proposal


Item
Provider
Cost (monthly)



Phase I

Palantir Software Licenses/Services
Palantir
$100,000


Project Management/Analysis/Engineering Services
Berico
$50,000


Collection/Engineering/Analysis Support/Development Services
HBGary
$50,000

Total $200,000 [one time -- intro cost]




Phase II

Palantir Software Licenses/Services
Palantir
$800,000 (monthly)


Project Management/Analysis/Engineering Services
Berico
$600,000 (monthly)


Collection/Engineering/Analysis Support/Development Services
HBGary
$600,000 (monthly)

Total $2,000,000  (monthly)


Keeping tabs on your Political Enemies -- Priceless!

Scratch that -- All for the mere price of $2 Million Dollars a Month!

-- Isn't the 'Citizen United' decision empowering -- for Corporate players, that is?


Why doesn't Congress look into this?   Good Question.  Why indeed?

Rep. Johnson seeks intelligence firms' contracts in ChamberLeaks scandal
hankjohnson.house.gov -- March 28, 2011
Congressman writes Gates, Holder and Clapper; says he will lead investigation himself if necessary

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Congressman Hank Johnson (D-GA-04) has requested that the Department of Defense, Department of Justice, and Director of National Intelligence turn over to Congress all contracts with intelligence firms HBGary Federal, Palantir Technologies, and Berico Technologies.  

Rep. Johnson has led calls for a formal Congressional probe into allegations that the contractors conspired to use intelligence and counterterrorism tools to attack U.S. citizens.  "We need aggressive action to defend American citizens in the cyber domain," said Johnson.  "This scandal cries out for a full investigation.  I'll do it myself if I have to."

Bush Administration counterterrorism and cybersecurity chief Richard Clarke speculated in an interview with ThinkProgress last week that the private use of cyberwarfare tools against U.S. citizens would constitute a criminal offense.  "I think it's a violation of 10USC," said Clarke.  "I think it's a felony, and I think they should go to jail."


I checked the good Congressman's public website, but I don't think Rep Hank Johnson, has gotten any significant replies to his letters of outrage, just yet ...

Perhaps there has not been enough Citizen's Outrage accompanying it?


Joan McCarter gives her assessment of the ChamberLeaks stonewalling ... and the chances for a real investigation ... it kind of figures ...


Richard Clarke: U.S. Chamber committed felony in ChamberLeaks scandal
by Joan McCarter for Daily Kos -- Mar 24, 2011

A number of lawmakers have called for an investigation of the Chamber over its probably illegal activities, and Rep. Hank Johnson (D-GA) has requested documents from the NSA and Defense Department detailing their contracts with Berico and HBGary, the firms implicated in the scandal. It seems unlikely that any House committee controlled by the GOP would want to investigate. That would leave it the Justice Department.

Hey Eric Holder, are you listening?   Are you scanning THIS Social Network?


IF SO, Here's a good recap on how the US Chamber has been planning to defeat US Unions ... the last bastion of the People, standing between Us and complete Corporate Takeover:


ChamberLeaks Timeline
by Brad Johnson, ThinkProgress -- February 16, 2011

Original reporting by ThinkProgress revealed that Hunton & Williams, a corporate law firm representing the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, conspired with set of private security companies and lobbying firms to undermine the political opponents of the Chamber with a surreptitious sabotage campaign.
[...]

Below [see link above] is a detailed timeline of the conspiracy to launch a dirty-tricks campaign against labor unions, progressive organizations, and journalists who have challenged the U.S. Chamber of Commerce's right-wing agenda.


Here's a reason WHY we should all be a bit more informed, and a bit more outraged, about all these disturbing ChamberLeaks implications, (no matter how the story first broke) ...


The horrible events of 9-11-2001 has caused a lingering National Stupor ... it is long past time we awoke from that deep sleep,

and return to some of our "core values", long cherished by Americans ... of generations gone by ... including this very simple one:

U.S. Constitution - Amendment 4

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


May those words, and those principles, once again be true in America, someday soon ...
perhaps today is that day -- given recent 9-11 Chapter Closing events ... may we soon reach that season, where real change and real National Healing might begin, in earnest ...



Originally posted to Digging up those Facts ... for over 8 years. on Fri May 06, 2011 at 03:11 PM PDT.

Also republished by InfoWar, Anonymous Dkos, and Wikileaks Informationthread.

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Comment Preferences

  •  Scary stuff Jamess (6+ / 0-)

    Thanks for all your research on this - we need to stay informed if we are to fight these guys.

    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." A. Einstein

    by moose67 on Fri May 06, 2011 at 03:25:27 PM PDT

    •  I kept getting (4+ / 0-)

      more surprised with each new pdf I read.


      HOW can this be legal in America?


      Corporations and Corporate Front Groups,

      spying on American Citizen using their 1st Amendment rights?


      Thank you Patriot Act!


      When in the world, can we put that American Invasion,
      to rest?


      thanks moose67, for feedback and support.


      Got Time?
      Take ten, to find something else informative and fun to read. Thx.

      by jamess on Fri May 06, 2011 at 03:29:31 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  We've seen a steady breakdown in the (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        jamess, moose67

        institutions that we long thought would protect us.  Now I am surprised if any AG does a good job.  Now I am surprised if any judge does his or her job.  And I am not surprised at all that our supposed representatives only represent monied interests.

        We are at fault, we citizenry, because we haven't demanded that they do their jobs.  But the mechanism for that demand, electing somebody else, hasn't worked.

        All compromise is based on give and take, but there can be no give and take on fundamentals. Any compromise on mere fundamentals is a surrender. For it is all give and no take. Mohandas Gandhi

        by glitterscale on Fri May 06, 2011 at 04:22:26 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  the Fourth Estate (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          glitterscale

          our Govt Watch Dogs -- have abandoned

          their Constitutional roles and responsibilities too.


          Why is it left to bloggers,

          to Report on stuff like this.


          Got Time?
          Take ten, to find something else informative and fun to read. Thx.

          by jamess on Fri May 06, 2011 at 04:25:40 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  It's becoming clearer (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            jamess

            with each new revelation of corruption/incompetence/lack of oversight that our system is badly damaged and close to dysfunctional in terms of representing the interests of the people, and increasingly clear that our corporately owned and controlled traditional media has become largely irrelevant except as propaganda dispensers for those same corporate interests. For a remedy, see my sig line.

            Thanks for this diary, jamess. A good resource. BTW, I sent you a message.


            "When the powerless are shut out of the media, we will make the media irrelevant" ~Anonymous~

            by Lisa Lockwood on Sun May 08, 2011 at 04:44:35 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

        •  This is untrue... (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          bronte17, jamess

          and you're skating on thin ice here, if you mean to imply that there's "no difference" between the parties, and that the Democrats are utterly non-viable.

          Electoral struggle got Obama and Democratic Majorities elected, on a very explicit rhetoric for justice and peace, to save the planet, and a very substantially more progressive program than that of the right.

          The fact that those putative Democratic Majorities were rotten with half a dozen equivocating, vacillating, half-stepping, back-stabbing Blue Dogs, who in alliance with the Republicans, held Obama and Congress hostage to a right wing majority, does not mean that it "hasn't worked", it only means that it's not over yet, and that the struggle continues.

          So...are you on the bus, or not?

          Democracy is the most fundamental revolutionary principle. Information is the ultimate key.

          by Radical def on Fri May 06, 2011 at 05:19:54 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

      •  The US Constitution was not designed... (3+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        jamess, moose67, bronte17

        ...to prevent the development, from within, of a fourth power center - the corporation.  It was designed to limit the reach of the federal government over the several states, and over the citizens.  It was not designed to to protect the people against corporations.  As a result, corporate power has waxed even as individual power has waned.

        If we do not correct this corporate-ward drift, and aggressively and radically, we will lose our identity as a nation, and as a people.  The very start of such a correction must be the destruction of the twin notions of corporate personhood and corporate free speech rights.  That, coupled with a revision to the Constitution stating explicitly that corporations, either by themselves or as proxy for another, cannot abrogate any citizen's free speech rights.

        Stupid is as stupid elects.

        by TheOrchid on Fri May 06, 2011 at 05:34:30 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Welcome to Occupied North America nt (4+ / 0-)

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri May 06, 2011 at 03:43:58 PM PDT

    •  it's not the land of opportunity (3+ / 0-)

      that I was brought up,

      believing it was,

      apparently.


      thx Gooserock


      apparently ... some interest groups

      ... are ABOVE the Law.


      Got Time?
      Take ten, to find something else informative and fun to read. Thx.

      by jamess on Fri May 06, 2011 at 03:50:52 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  And yet a Democratic Party Congressman... (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        jamess

        has launched an investigation...which is a start.

        After 2012 we may have sufficient progressive/moderate Democratic plurality to actually prosecute such matters, among so many other urgent priorities confronting us.

        Until then, not so much, probably, but calling for an investigation, as we go into the elections, seems like a good talking point for the Party to deploy.

        Democracy is the most fundamental revolutionary principle. Information is the ultimate key.

        by Radical def on Fri May 06, 2011 at 04:58:06 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  more like only occupied by sheep! n/t (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      jamess

      All compromise is based on give and take, but there can be no give and take on fundamentals. Any compromise on mere fundamentals is a surrender. For it is all give and no take. Mohandas Gandhi

      by glitterscale on Fri May 06, 2011 at 04:23:08 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I don't think so, and your contempt is deplorable (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        jamess

        Photobucket

        It's neither the fault of the American peoples, nor of the Democratic Party, that the right has consistently managed to seize and maintain the power, illegitimately, by hook and by crook, just barely, over these many years, even now stubbornly refusing to submit to the popular democratic will.

        This can be corrected in 2012, to a very substantial degree, with sufficient progressive plurality in Congress, such that we can begin to reverse the many imprecations imposed by the dictatorship of monopoly corporate fascism.

        But that will not be achieved by holding the electorate, or the Democrats in contempt.

        Rather, more elements of the left need to recognize and accept the leadership of the masses in this regard, and get on the bus, to help us seize the power, for real, this time, via the Democratic Party, under the leadership of Obama, such as they are, lol...since they offer the most viable prospect for crushing the Republicans.

        All Power to the People!

        Bring the Better Democrats!

        All Out for 2012!

        Democracy is the most fundamental revolutionary principle. Information is the ultimate key.

        by Radical def on Fri May 06, 2011 at 05:12:15 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  I really welcome those statistics (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          jamess, Radical def

          And I accept your condemnation.  I hope to heaven you are right.  People oftentimes have not looked at the people for whom they cast their ballot in a critical light.  They have followed party lines, they have followed church leaders, they have followed some personal idiosyncrasy when they cast their ballot.  How else to explain the results?

          And, because of the incumbent republican legislators and governors, voting rights are being curtailed and draconian id laws are put into place.  And we see in MI where voting is ignored entirely and some guy moonlighting as an EFM is taking over.

          I see 2012 as a beacon but not a certainty.

          All compromise is based on give and take, but there can be no give and take on fundamentals. Any compromise on mere fundamentals is a surrender. For it is all give and no take. Mohandas Gandhi

          by glitterscale on Fri May 06, 2011 at 07:53:10 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  thanks for your graciousness, glitterscale (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            glitterscale

            here's some "light reading" for you, concerning:

            the 2011 Michigan Law that empowers EFM
            way beyond all sense of "reasonableness" ...

            What Rick Snyder's EFMs are really Allowed To Do -- and How to Prevent it, Michigan.  -- by jamess -- Apr 19, 2011


            and the legal principle, standing against State Takeoff of local matters:

            Michigan has a History of 'Home Rule' -- despite the Unconstitutional takeovers using Dillon's Rule
            by jamess  -- Apr 30, 2011


            Cheers, and best of luck to my Alma Mater.

            Recall Snyder!


            Got Time?
            Take ten, to find something else informative and fun to read. Thx.

            by jamess on Fri May 06, 2011 at 07:58:58 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

          •  No personal condemnation intended... (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            jamess

            ...but I do tend to wax defensive, and a tad bit subjective to the meme, that we are somehow responsible for our victimization at the hands of the pigs who are ripping us off and murdering us.

            They like to pretend that they were elected, democratically, and that we thus have it coming to us, heh, and many even on the left too readily accept such contemptuous memes, including that this is supposedly a center/right nation, a bunch of racists, etc. that "real Americans" are like the right, even despite knowing that MSM lies their asses off about Everything...go figure.

            But with any real, material, objective consideration we all know that the bourgeois commercial mass media elections have been rigged, consistently, by all kinds of dirty tricks, from throwing people off the registration roles, to phony phone calls, to cops turning people away at the polling stations, and when necessary, resorting to actually stealing whole boxes and bags full of ballots, that have even wound up in the river, etc, lol.

            The ONLY way the right has consistently won, usually by just a fews slim percentage points, has been by suppressing likely Democratic voter turnout, any way that they can, and shaving a few points here, and a few points there, to barely squeak by, in most cases.

            The only thing that can overcome this formula of theirs for maintaining that electoral illusion is a truly massive voter turnout, as occurred in '08, to swamp the polls beyond their capabilities for marginally manipulating the count.

            Their agents will be flooding all media venues, moar and moar, sowing cynical defeatism and demoralization, and promulgating electoral boycott and splitting sentiments, especially here on dkos, because it's so notoriously popular, you betcha.

            I believe we can prevail, if we unite and go all out, but the enemy will deploy all of the considerable resources at their disposal to stop us, and it could get ugly.  

            The closer we get to democracy, the more hysterical and draconian their rhetoric and practice will get.

            This proves that we're winning, and that the final struggle is at hand, because they are absolutely freaking out, calling for political assassination, mass murder and civil war, even now.

            The right seems to see the writing on the wall more clearly than many elements on the left, heh...

            Seize the Time!

            Seize the Power!

            All Out for 2012!

            Democracy is the most fundamental revolutionary principle. Information is the ultimate key.

            by Radical def on Fri May 06, 2011 at 09:25:02 PM PDT

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  •  What are the chances (3+ / 0-)
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    that some of their "personas" are not here?  Biggest left leaning Democratic web site in the country, right?

  •  uhhhh (3+ / 0-)
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    This would have been better, IMHO, if you had used something like ScreenPresso to record images of the slides, then posted them on Flickr, then embedded them in the diary.

      This is a good narrative, hits the key points, but if I wasn't already familiar with the story line I would likely have wandered off before finishing more than the first third of it.

  •  Great summary (2+ / 0-)
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    Scary shit

    Be radical in your compassion.

    by DWG on Sat May 07, 2011 at 05:35:08 AM PDT

    •  thanks DWG (2+ / 0-)
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      for taking some time,

      and for the feedback.


      Got Time?
      Take ten, to find something else informative and fun to read. Thx.

      by jamess on Sat May 07, 2011 at 08:16:14 AM PDT

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      •  Our democracy is hanging by a thread (1+ / 0-)
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        because of the heavy-handed tactics of the CoC. Pretty scary when you think about big corporations teaming with contractors to silence critics.

        Be radical in your compassion.

        by DWG on Sat May 07, 2011 at 08:25:57 AM PDT

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        •  Not just the CoC, the DoJ needs to (1+ / 0-)
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          step the hell up to the plate. The chances of that happening are not good, when you consider that they are actively investigating/pursuing/arresting the very anonymous members who exposed the Chamber of Commerce/Bank of America/Team Themis/DoJ unholy alliance.

          As Barrett Brown so eloquently states in The Guardian:

          ...when, a few months ago, Representative Hank Johson called for Congress to look into the activities of Team Themis in coordination with Hunton & Williams, Representative Lamar Smith, a Republican from Texas, declined, asserting that this was the responsibility of the justice department. He did not seem to think it problematic that, as shown by the HBGary emails, it was the justice department itself that recommended Hunton & Williams to Bank of America.

          Eric Holder having presumably been too busy to investigate that particular matter, Anonymous is, of course, flattered to learn that criminal activity that allegedly involves us is a higher priority than dubious activity that definitely involved his own department. Or perhaps, there is some other explanation.

          The cards are stacked against oversight/investigation into apparent conspiracy to illegally smear individuals and entities that disagree with the Chamber of Commerce,  unless and until the DoJ cleans its own house.


          "When the powerless are shut out of the media, we will make the media irrelevant" ~Anonymous~

          by Lisa Lockwood on Sun May 08, 2011 at 04:29:36 AM PDT

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