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Gary McKinnon is a computer and systems analyst from Great Britain who for 13 months between February 2001 and March 2002 walked right into 97 United States government computer networks from agencies like the Departments of Defense, Army, Navy, and NASA.  Our government has been involved in a massive effort to extradite Gary McKinnon to the United States in order to try him for espionage.

Despite medical conditions and the fact that at the time the alleged crime was committed British law only laid down a 6 month punishment for what he was accused of last week Attorney General Eric Holder signaled that there would be no mercy.


President Obama's top law officer last night dealt a bitter blow to computer hacker Gary McKinnon by insisting that he must face trial in a U.S. court.

Eric Holder, the U.S. Attorney General, vowed to 'take all of the necessary steps' to have Gary - who suffers from Asperger's syndrome - extradited and 'held accountable for the crimes that he committed'.

Gary, 45, and his thousands of supporters had been hoping for a breakthrough in his case when Mr Obama visits the UK later this month.

His mother Janis Sharp had written an open letter to the President pleading with him to end ten years of torment.

However, it appears the U.S. has made its decision before Mr Obama even sets foot on British soil.

Daily Mail account my President does get his national security on

Sure he pants'd our national security and if he were truly a person with animosity he could have perhaps done some damage, however what's funny to me is how very few people involved in this case are giving any real notice to what he stated he found while rummaging around in our cyber world.  He wasn't looking for trouble, he was looking for UFOs

The US authorities claim he deleted critical files from operating systems, which shut down the US Army’s Military District of Washington network of 2,000 computers for 24 hours, as well as deleting US Navy Weapons logs, rendering a naval base's network of 300 computers inoperable after the September 11th terrorist attacks. McKinnon is also accused of copying data, account files and passwords onto his own computer. US authorities claim the cost of tracking and correcting the problems he caused was over $700,000.[3]

Wiki of Gary McKinnon

That's what the government says that Gary denies.  Of course America is upset that someone could so easily stroll into their national security infrastructure, what Gary said he saw while he was cruising around in the password free environment no one is really talking about so much.

WN: Did you find anything in your search for evidence of UFOs?

McKinnon: Certainly did. There is The Disclosure Project. This is a book with 400 testimonials from everyone from air traffic controllers to those responsible for launching nuclear missiles. Very credible witnesses. They talk about reverse-(engineered) technology taken from captured or destroyed alien craft.

WN: Like the Roswell incident of 1947?

McKinnon: I assume that was the first and assume there have been others. These relied-upon people have given solid evidence.

WN: What sort of evidence?

McKinnon: A NASA photographic expert said that there was a Building 8 at Johnson Space Center where they regularly airbrushed out images of UFOs from the high-resolution satellite imaging. I logged on to NASA and was able to access this department. They had huge, high-resolution images stored in their picture files. They had filtered and unfiltered, or processed and unprocessed, files.
My dialup 56K connection was very slow trying to download one of these picture files. As this was happening, I had remote control of their desktop, and by adjusting it to 4-bit color and low screen resolution, I was able to briefly see one of these pictures. It was a silvery, cigar-shaped object with geodesic spheres on either side. There were no visible seams or riveting. There was no reference to the size of the object and the picture was taken presumably by a satellite looking down on it. The object didn't look manmade or anything like what we have created. Because I was using a Java application, I could only get a screenshot of the picture -- it did not go into my temporary internet files. At my crowning moment, someone at NASA discovered what I was doing and I was disconnected.
I also got access to Excel spreadsheets. One was titled "Non-Terrestrial Officers." It contained names and ranks of U.S. Air Force personnel who are not registered anywhere else. It also contained information about ship-to-ship transfers, but I've never seen the names of these ships noted anywhere else.


Wired Link
Link to Disclosure Project

For the week in Youtube I present the full length presentation of the Phoenix sighting titled "I know what I saw".  This is the first time i've seen the video put together in its entirety for Youtube, and really should be an entry on it's own.

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  •  Tip Jar (12+ / 0-)

    Every moment in life contains an off ramp. Never be afraid to use it.

    by Adept2u on Mon May 16, 2011 at 11:44:51 AM PDT

  •  Good for You, I was unaware of this (3+ / 0-)
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  •  It's a rarity, but I disagree with you on this one (3+ / 0-)

    I say this as someone with an intense interest in UFO's.

    I believe people should not trespass. If they do,and get caught, then they should be prepared for the consequences.

    I have never met a person who did not mind being hacked. In fact, those that have such skills take it really hard when there is such an attempt.

    As a kid, I was taught not to wander onto such-and-such's property because s/he was known to shoot trespassers. It is a lesson that has served many people well. I'm sorry this mother didn't get through to her son.

    It's an ancient concept, but still a useful one.

    "Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so." ...Bertrand Russell

    by sebastianguy99 on Mon May 16, 2011 at 12:11:55 PM PDT

    •  I guess the issue with me (3+ / 0-)
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      Excuse me but I closed the research browser on this diary, but I could find the link if you need it, is that what he is accused of wasn't a crime in England, or if it was it was a 6 month offense.  The case they are building against him is trumped up, he didn't actually do any damage.

      Now the crux of his defense and I have to agree is that the government did not reasonably put up security.  He literally walked into things with no passwords and went from there.

      Every moment in life contains an off ramp. Never be afraid to use it.

      by Adept2u on Mon May 16, 2011 at 12:17:36 PM PDT

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      •  I love the info he was after, just not the means (1+ / 0-)
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        (yes, I am a trekkie and X-File fanatic)

        I do not think this guy is some operative working against our nation's interests. In fact, what he did should have caused us to do a much better job securing our information. I hope some heads rolled as a result of him just "walking in".

        I do not think he deserves 60 years given the allegations that have been reported.

        That said, I am against people letting themselves into places they do not have any right to go. I think because it is cyberspace, we tend to think of such transgressions differently than if a person who picks a lock of someone's home, enters, and looks for/copies/removes sensitive personal information.

        "Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so." ...Bertrand Russell

        by sebastianguy99 on Mon May 16, 2011 at 01:13:30 PM PDT

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    •  no passwords were set on those accounts. (1+ / 0-)
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      Log in with a username, any username, and press Return.

      That's zero security, and it's an attractive nuisance.  

      The kid said he saw people logged into those machines from all over the world.  Some of those no doubt were foreign spies.  Would that ever have come to light but for this case?

      So on one hand I agree that hacking is a no-no, but on the other hand, when someone like this whose intentions are not harmful runs across something like this that most definitely is, he ought to get off with a slap on the wrist and the people responsible for security on those systems ought to be fired for cause.  

    •  meanwhile we apparently have... (1+ / 0-)
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      .... a NASA office dedicated to photoshopping the UFOs out of satellite photos!  

      Well, holy cow!

      There's really no excuse for that.  It's destroying data that could be useful in ascertaining what some of these things are.  That's unacceptable in any field: you don't go destroying data that could be useful to science.  

  •  It seems to me the bar is set really low (4+ / 0-)
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    To be a "whistle blower."

    Illegally divulge classified information, regardless of the content, and you're automatically a 'hero whistle blower' by some.

    "The Green Bay Packers failed to score 8 times in the Super Bowl." -- Purity

    by USArmyParatrooper on Mon May 16, 2011 at 12:13:52 PM PDT

    •  He did not divulge anything illegal (1+ / 0-)
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      The only information he has released has been on the UFO's he also didn't get the info illegally at least by British law at the time.

      Every moment in life contains an off ramp. Never be afraid to use it.

      by Adept2u on Mon May 16, 2011 at 12:20:06 PM PDT

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    •  not necessarily. (1+ / 0-)
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      I happen to think Bradley Manning deserves prison for what he did.  Had he merely gone nosing around and reported to his superiors that he had found means of access to information in other systems, he should have faced no trouble for it.  But he did real damage and there has to be a penalty for that.

      This guy in England didn't have a clearance and he walked right into places that didn't even have passwords.  I can't see any rationale for prosecuting that beyond the slap on the wrist level.  And whoever was in charge of INFOSEC on those systems should have been fired post-haste.  

      As for the stuff he said he found, there ought to be a Congressional investigation of whether and to what extent NASA is photoshopping satellite images to remove UFOs: because any tampering with raw data is unacceptable whether it's a silver disc in a photo or a series of climate data or whatever; and that has to stop.  

  •  A couple of observations. (1+ / 0-)
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    McKinnon's answer referring to The Disclosure Project is strange. Is he saying he found evidence of the Disclosure Project in the government computers? I doubt that. If he did find something compelling in the government files, why would his first answer be about The Disclosure Project?

    I see no harm in reporting this, but in searching for the truth about UFOs, it is important to not let the desire for a particular outcome give unearned value or credibility to a source or story that should be critically evaluated in great detail. If this is not done, it only provides fuel to the debunkers, who will claim that all UFO evidence is uncritically presented as proof.

    That being said, keep looking. It is the only way to find something.

    •  My take (1+ / 0-)
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      The Disclosure Project came out in May of 2001.

      What he most likely saw was people in government discussing it.

      Remember he cracked into the system in February of 01.  I can only speculate he had seen evidence of people going "uh oh" of something like that in the face of many credible government witnesses about to come forward.

      Of course after September that year aliens could have landed and we may not have noticed it.

      Every moment in life contains an off ramp. Never be afraid to use it.

      by Adept2u on Mon May 16, 2011 at 12:54:03 PM PDT

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  •  It seems strange that a "hacker" (2+ / 0-)
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    would be using a 56k modem on dialup, doesn't it?

  •  A case of someone beating the cat... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...because they left an unopened can of tuna unattended. 95% of our "security apparatus" is nothing more than a self-perpetuating paranoia factory. It's tiring hearing the argument that "the law was broken" if the "law" is ridiculous on it's face and given that there now exists in this nation a two-tiered system of justice that allows the rich and privileged to actively bypass the law while lesser beings are subject to Draconian punishments. This guy's actions harmed no one. Embarrassing the government is hardly an offense. Really, the USA is going balls-out to defend their UFO "secrets" while taking a discreet pass on prosecuting torture? It would be laughable if it wasn't so emblematic of just how much of a "Banana Republic" we have become and how many flag-waving purists get bent out of shape about this innocuous shit.

  •  thanks for the info Adept2u (1+ / 0-)
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    I hope they let us "borrow" their energy tech.


    I hope we would be "smart enough" to actually use it.

    maybe someday.


    The truth is out there.


    Got Time?
    Take ten, to find something else informative and fun to read. Thx.

    by jamess on Mon May 16, 2011 at 03:36:43 PM PDT

  •  It's very simple (1+ / 0-)
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    They go after those who cannot defend themselves (e.g. autistic), are not rich, and don't have connections with the rich and powerful. If someone belongs to one of these groups, they get a free walk (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest of the Bush Crime Family™, as well as the bankers who screwed the whole World in the name of the Almighty Dollar!)

    IOW, they are acting like the elitist assholes that they are, and Obama is helping them!

    FOSI: Full Of Shit Information - Both my sister and I are trivia freaks...

    by Spoc42 on Mon May 16, 2011 at 04:37:50 PM PDT

  •  "Free energy" again. (1+ / 0-)
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    The reason that topic is so seductive and draws so many people into it, is that we all know it apparently violates the laws of thermodynamics but yet it seems to offer a solution to one of our most compelling problems.  

    Near as I can tell, a lot of this goes back to the "zero point theory."  

    I installed the telephones for one of the guys responsible for that:  Bernie Haisch.  

    This started as a routine PBX installation but when I asked him what his organization was doing, I got interested and we got to talking.  

    Bottom line is: he and his colleague Rueda were simply looking for a more elegant explanation of inertial mass (why it is that objects at rest stay at rest and objects in motion stay in motion).  They worked out the theory and the math, and then realized the implications included an effectively infinite energy resource, if only it could be tapped.  Haisch hired a bunch of physics & math people to see if there was any possible route to a practical application.  

    About the same time, after his theory was published, a whole subculture of garage inventors sprang up to attempt to do much the same thing.  

    And in roughly the same time frame, some other folks and I were looking into clean energy systems of various kinds: the usual stuff with renewables, and some other ones such as biodiesel, thin-film polymer photovoltaics, and so on.  So we did some digging around some of these garage inventors' claims to have developed technology based on the zero point theory.

    What we found was a decent number of well-meaning people who were making measurement errors, a few obvious cranks and frauds, and a bunch of truly weird rabbit holes involving people with wild claims that couldn't be substantiated in any way.  The sheer number of the latter was remarkable in itself: they were everywhere.  

    Meanwhile Haisch apparently made more progress on his theories but didn't develop any basis for a working technology either.  

    So that's where the whole thing stood in the early '00s:  a contending theory of inertial mass, a bunch of attempts at technologies, and a topic that was sufficiently tantalizing that it wasn't going away any time soon.  I don't see much reason to believe things have changed since then.  

  •  interesting; per the documentary it appears.... (1+ / 0-)
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    ... that the French government's findings are convergent with our own: that about 5% of cases are serious unknowns.

    Then France goes a bit further and says in effect, that we may as well consider some of these 5% to be ET space craft.  

    That would certainly make the problem go away: all it takes is a paradigm shift from "impossible" to "routine."  The next logical step is to look at these things as an engineering problem.

    •  Rendleshem Forrest is next! (1+ / 0-)
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      You know the British released their UFO files.  Guess what incident they did not release.  

      Don't guess it was Rendleshem.

      Every moment in life contains an off ramp. Never be afraid to use it.

      by Adept2u on Tue May 17, 2011 at 06:22:33 AM PDT

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      •  something you'll need to address: (2+ / 0-)
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        I've seen an explanation of the Rendleshem case as the light from a lighthouse that was found to be in a plausible position to create the effects that were observed.  So either a) that explanation is sufficient, or b) it isn't, and in either case you ought to address it when you post that diary.  We need to be rigorous about these things.

        •  but, mom (1+ / 0-)
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          rigour and stuff sounds too much like work!

          Every moment in life contains an off ramp. Never be afraid to use it.

          by Adept2u on Tue May 17, 2011 at 02:53:05 PM PDT

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        •  I have seen the lighthouse explanation thoroughly (0+ / 0-)

          debunked. Sorry, but I don't have the source or a reference at hand but Wikipedia has a good account similar to the one I have read previously.

          One of the witnesses, Lt. Col. Charles Halt, clearly stated that he and his men saw the beams from the lighthouse and identified them as such at the same time they observed the UFO in a different direction from the lighthouse.  

          Halt also dismissed claims that he and his men had confused a UFO with a lighthouse beam: "While in Rendlesham Forest, our security team observed a light that looked like a large eye, red in color, moving through the trees. After a few minutes this object began dripping something that looked like molten metal. A short while later it broke into several smaller, white-colored objects which flew away in all directions. Claims by skeptics that this was merely a sweeping beam from a distant lighthouse are unfounded; we could see the unknown light and the lighthouse simultaneously. The latter was 35 to 40-degrees off where all of this was happening."

          Admiral Lord Hill-Norton famously commented on the incident:

          "Either large numbers of people were hallucinating, and for an American Air Force nuclear base this is extremely dangerous, or what they say happened did happen, and in either of those circumstances there can only be one answer, and that is that it was of extreme defence interest."
  •  It may have been so easy to hack into the info (0+ / 0-)

    because it was disinformation that was meant to be hacked into.  The U.S. has actively engaged in disinformation about UFOs ever since such a policy was recommended by the infamous Robertson panel in 1953.

    The Robertson Panel concluded that a public relations campaign should be undertaken in order to "debunk" UFOs, and reduce public interest in the subject, and that civilian UFO groups should be monitored. There is evidence this was carried out more than two decades after the Panel's conclusion.

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