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So our favorite haxors decided that they had taken enough shit from b, the place where they undoubtedly got their start, that they decided to take 4chan down a peg or two. There is currently a DDoS raid on 4chan being executed by Lulzsec in retaliation for Lulzsec not doing it for the lulz, but for political motivation. b has no political motivations aside from trying to shock your ass into thinking they are depraved lunatics.

They/we are, but lulzsec turned anon into something greater. They hacked the U.S. Senate, the C.I.A., the Spanish Police, the government of Turkey, Syria, etc. We are seeing internet vigilantism at their best.

To be clear, b has been banning/turning over IP addresses of the sickos who post CP for a few months, so it isn't quite the cesspool it used to be. When they took issue with the political nature of lulzsec's attacks however, lulz responded. 4chan is now down due to a massive DDoS and condemnation of their attacks on children.

Sucks when your own methods are used against you instead of a fourteen year old girl eh?

What I'm saying is that LS may not be the "good" anon, but they sure as hell are better than that from whence they came.

The revolution has begun, and there will be no retreat, no surrender. There are no leaders, there are no members, there is only legion, and they do not forget.

Sleep well. You are protected.

Originally posted to You know me man on Wed Jun 15, 2011 at 09:05 PM PDT.

Also republished by Anonymous Dkos.

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  •  Tip Jar (5+ / 0-)

    They don't swear on a Constitution to uphold the bible, they swear on a bible to uphold the Constitution.

    by You know me man on Wed Jun 15, 2011 at 09:05:48 PM PDT

  •  What the hell is a chan? (2+ / 0-)
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    You know me man, Sylv

    And B? Also, rule one.

    This comment may not be reproduced or excerpted on other sites without my express written permission.

    by psilocynic on Wed Jun 15, 2011 at 09:12:27 PM PDT

  •  YKMM, so glad you posted this (2+ / 0-)
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    You know me man, G2geek

    You said it all:

    The revolution has begun, and there will be no retreat, no surrender. There are no leaders, there are no members, there is only legion, and they do not forget./blockquote>
    •  Thanks! It's time we stopped letting (3+ / 0-)
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      shantysue, G2geek, Lisa Lockwood

      things go. Thanks for your diary. Looks like you already knew about the other thing from Rueter's. This needs to get out there. Some anons are doing things for all the right reasons. Change comes from the many, not from one person.

      They don't swear on a Constitution to uphold the bible, they swear on a bible to uphold the Constitution.

      by You know me man on Wed Jun 15, 2011 at 09:23:06 PM PDT

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    •  Typical teenage wet dream /eom (2+ / 0-)
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      Neuroptimalian, flhiii88

      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Wed Jun 15, 2011 at 10:38:17 PM PDT

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      •  It would have been eleven years ago (0+ / 0-)

        but hey, call me a pie eyed youngin and make yourself look old. I can deal. Meanwhile, what have you done today? I bet you gave ten bucks to ActBlue and felt like that mattered. How much did David H. Koch give to his cause? Yeah... your ten bucks probably made a huge impact.

        Now who's the child?

        They don't swear on a Constitution to uphold the bible, they swear on a bible to uphold the Constitution.

        by You know me man on Wed Jun 15, 2011 at 10:42:24 PM PDT

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      •  and where did the Civil Rights movement come from? (1+ / 0-)
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        Lots of young people and some oldsters and some middle-agers, and one who famously "had a dream."

        Revolutions start with the young, the old, the middle-agers who are fed up, and everyone who has nothing left to lose but their chains.

        You'll see.

        And you can be quite sure that a few of these releases, such as the HB Gary / Chamber of Commerce thing, have had impact.

        I don't support leaking military secrets, but when it comes to corporate secrets, if it's an unregulated market they want, it's an unregulated market they're going to get!

        •  I don't think this is a revolution (1+ / 0-)
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          G2geek

          I think this is mainly ego-driven. Spent enough time on 4chan to reach that conclusion. 99 44/100 playground.

          Bradley Manning is a revolutionary. And now, unfortunately, a martyr.

          Jullian Assange, not so much.

          Sabotage stops machinery temporarally. What gets done while it is idle is the question
          .
          Just my viewpoint. I'm often mistaken.

          What about my Daughter's future?

          by koNko on Thu Jun 16, 2011 at 10:43:44 AM PDT

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          •  then we have different ideas about revolution. (2+ / 0-)
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            koNko, shantysue

            The motives and emotional states of Anon members vary.  Some of them are committed politicals.  It does us no good to smear them with insinuations about their motives.  But even the ones who are in it for thrills, will become politicized over time, as a result of the social influence of their politicized peers.  

            There were people in the 1960s civil rights movement and anti-war movement in order to "get laid" (find people to have sex with) because the political left in the 1960s was where people had the most liberated attitudes about sex.   Yet today we look back on those people through the lens of history, where their heroic stance is what counts, and their desire for "getting laid" is irrelevant.  

            Re. Bradley Manning.  Let's just say you and I disagree about that.  I don't see him as a revolutionary, and I know things about the case that aren't public.  He's a confused kid struggling with his sexuality, and with diagnosable bipolar disorder, who got persuaded by social pressure from Assange et. al. to do something he would not have done otherwise.   And what he did caused real damage.  Given his psychiatric situation I would say that five years behind bars, with appropriate medication and counseling, would be justice tempered with mercy.  Minus the psych diagnosis, I would have a hard time seeing that as anything less than deserving of a life sentence.  

            Dumping military secrets is hardly going to make a dent in the plutocracy.  

            Dumping Bank of America's secrets, and Goldman Sachs' secrets, and all of those: that's revolution, because that's where the plutocracy is busy scheming on how to turn America and the world into a theocratic feudalist slave colony.  

            •  We agree more than disagree (2+ / 0-)
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              G2geek, shantysue

              I pretty much share your take on Manning.

              Where we differ is what originally motivated Manning. He found what he thought was evidence of a war crime (the helocoter shooting of civilians) and mistrusting the government chose to release the information to wikileaks. That make him at least a whistle blower. From there it appears he was induced to use his access to obtain more information and hand it over to wikileaks. His motivation for this seems to have been more political but I'm unsure if it was what he formulated or something put in his head.

              The dump made about zero dent in the plutocracy. The end result is it has been used as the rationale to build the wall higher and thicker.

              Trying to crack the wall is good. Millions of young and not so young Chinese, Vietnamese and other people do it everyday just to excercise their constitutional rights.

              One can argue groups like lutz and 4chan are doing the same. Not quite; they actually have free use to the internent and arguably use it to break other walls.

              But ultimately they trivialize the process by waving a flag that says "Ha-Ha Fuck You!" and then you get all the high fives and we bads.

              And then you get Chinese kids/whatever hacking US Military contractors and suddenly we have the US Government talking about Cyber war and beyond, pretty funny given the NSA and the CIA. Or maybe not so funny if it leads to the worng place.

              I'm not going to but everyone in the same box. Probably some of the people doing this are the white knights who set up VPNs to assist mid-east protestors and maybe that is revolution, but some of those people are now speaking out against all of these gratuitous ddos attacks.

              I wouldn't want to see the situation where these kids later have to use the skills just to exercise their basic freedom of speech. Too much of this could lead to that.

              Just a thought.

              What about my Daughter's future?

              by koNko on Thu Jun 16, 2011 at 05:57:06 PM PDT

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              •  Manning, high-fives (1+ / 0-)
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                If Manning had stopped with the helicopter shooting incident, and taken that to a) his chain of command and then b) someone in Congress, he could have avoided "becoming a martyr."   As it is, Assange or someone associated with Assange got him all amped up during his manic phase, with the results we see now.  

                But whether it would have made any difference to just expose the helicopter shooting incident, remains to be seen.  The blunt fact is that most people, hearing about that incident, consider it as nothing more than a subset of the overall category "horrors of war."  

                ---

                It doesn't trivialize the process for Anon to behave in a manner similar to that of sports fans whose team just won a ball game against all odds.  In fact I'd argue that's a good thing because it pushes the frame.  

                What I really detest are the mealy-mouthed "moderates" who are eternally mired in a quicksand of weasel-words.  People who never use strong language, who never call out the plutocracy, people who mince and dance around every issue afraid of offending anyone, people who appear to be asking permission to even exist, as if they're afraid that permission will not be forthcoming.

                Speaking of war, we're fighting on two fronts: the class war and the culture war.   We should cheer our every victory, and boo our enemies, and cheer every time one of our enemies slips on a proverbial banana peel and falls on their inflated posterior.

                WE need to make it clear that we have some spine.  

                For example what Anthony Weiner should have done was say "I did a stupid thing, but it wasn't even adultery like Newt, much less a cover-up like Ensign, much less paying a prostitute for it like Vitter.  I'm in trouble with my wife but my family business is private and that's that.  As for Breitbart, the real reason he made such a stink is because he's jealous of my manly attributes."  

                That last part would have been the meme that captured the media:  "Breitbart jealous of Weiner's weiner!"  Case closed, one more progressive stays in Congress, and Breitbart gets taken down a notch.  

                Failure to cheer for victories only ensures that there will be fewer victories.

                •  Not so sure (1+ / 0-)
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                  that it was Assange doing the amping considering his background. Could have been one of his ex friends who told him to take the lot to Wikileaks when the first leak was successful. Doubt we'll ever know.

                •  I think it's a process my friend (3+ / 0-)
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                  What I really detest are the mealy-mouthed "moderates" who are eternally mired in a quicksand of weasel-words.  People who never use strong language, who never call out the plutocracy, people who mince and dance around every issue afraid of offending anyone, people who appear to be asking permission to even exist, as if they're afraid that permission will not be forthcoming.

                  I remember how the change happened in me.  I want to be an example for change and hope that the masses come to the same conclusion as many of us have.

                  I think the examples of Bradley and Anthony are sad.  I won't comment on either example, except to say, let's work towards not allowing it to happen again.

                  btw, I'm over at what's the plan for the rest of the day.  If I find anything worth sharing, I will.

                •  Of course (0+ / 0-)

                  To me the magic formula is get a life/make a life, stand-up, speak out and keep it up.

                  Because no battle are won in a day, ever.

                  But I'm not much on high-fives and ra-ra BS, I admidt that.  It's kind of against the social ethics of my ubringing not to draw attention to yourself. But I've proven a complete failure and making anyone else belive that.

                  What about my Daughter's future?

                  by koNko on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 10:20:22 AM PDT

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  •  This demonstrates (4+ / 0-)

    How infantile the Lutz and 4chan are.

    Why do you waste bandwidth here posting on these self-absorbed idiots who's emotional development was arrested in their teens?

    The only "revolution" these anti-social jerks make is in their own pants. Pity their Mothers who have to clean out the spots.

    Suggest you delete, not tipped not recced.

    What about my Daughter's future?

    by koNko on Wed Jun 15, 2011 at 10:36:23 PM PDT

    •  better to not talk about them (2+ / 0-)
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      shantysue, G2geek

      censor them maybe. They are perpetrating meaningless attacks that somehow made Sony stock drop 3 points and the government of Spain go into high alert. All are one. All are united. All have power. You may not respect it, but you will see that standing by with inaction is a much less worthy endeavor.

      Don't be stupid. I know that governments are SCARY and such, but what other way is there to fight them? Do you suggest we throw rocks at their tanks? Perhaps you should keep hiding in your mom's basement saying nothing can be done, while the adults take care of business.

      Seems like someone needs to take a serious approach (hint, it is not anon). Maybe you don't think the fight is worthy, or maybe you don't think it has a chance of success, but to sit on the sidelines and badmouth it is simply stupid. You call them a bunch of losers while you sit by taking what meager ration is given... Re-evaluate your situation and get back to me. You clearly... are not seeing clearly.

      They don't swear on a Constitution to uphold the bible, they swear on a bible to uphold the Constitution.

      by You know me man on Wed Jun 15, 2011 at 10:54:22 PM PDT

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      •  Sony's stock down 3 points!!!!1 (0+ / 0-)

        Yer right, it's a revolution.  Guess we should all buy guns, gold, and ammo.

        CIA's homepage was down for 2 minutes.  That's a teeny tiny blip.  When they take down multiple banks and the stock exchange simultaneously for 2-3 days, then we can discuss whether to panic.  DDOS and website defacing is kiddy stuff. Now, stuxnet, that my friend is real hacking.

      •  Governments? You mean like Minecraft? (0+ / 0-)

        They also heroically knocked over League of Legends.  That sure stuck it to the Man.  So did taking a down a meaningless Senate web server and the CIA's (non-secure) web server.

        They're just the digital equivalent of a 16-year-old black bloc hoodlum throwing a tire through a Starbucks window.

        Politically irrelevant.  WikiLeaks has done far more than they ever will.

        •  And thousands of people protesting (0+ / 0-)

          works so much better? Look at Wisconsin. We showed them. Woohoo! I may be naive, but I am neither stupid nor 16 years old. I would think that any method of standing up to injustice would be welcomed by you, but maybe, you prefer to be a dbag. I'm cool with that. I just don't know how in the fuck that will improve the current situation.

          They don't swear on a Constitution to uphold the bible, they swear on a bible to uphold the Constitution.

          by You know me man on Thu Jun 16, 2011 at 11:14:39 AM PDT

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        •  Just to snark (0+ / 0-)

          Oh noez did your video game server get shut down by a bunch of twelve year olds? I weep for your loss.

          They don't swear on a Constitution to uphold the bible, they swear on a bible to uphold the Constitution.

          by You know me man on Thu Jun 16, 2011 at 11:17:52 AM PDT

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        •  And who went after Visa and MC (0+ / 0-)

          and Paypal to get them to allow contributions to Wikileaks again?

          Oh that's right, we shouldn't let facts get in the way of hating those evil twelve year olds who stole the twelve hours you were going to spend playing Eve.

          They don't swear on a Constitution to uphold the bible, they swear on a bible to uphold the Constitution.

          by You know me man on Thu Jun 16, 2011 at 11:20:31 AM PDT

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      •  I don't censor anyone. (0+ / 0-)

        I made a suggestion.

        So Sony's stock dropped 3 points. Now what? How does that change anything of substance? Please eleaborate the great revolutionary accomplishments.

        anon: so little self-control they are leaving a trail of bread crumbs to their doors.

        Hey. I have a great idea. Crash all servers. Hack & Disrupt The System. Then it's off to MacDonalds.

        CIA & lutz : co-dependant. CIA just got more off the ledger budget. Wonderful.

        What about my Daughter's future?

        by koNko on Thu Jun 16, 2011 at 11:24:37 AM PDT

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    •  dude you are so mistaken. (2+ / 0-)
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      Keyword search "H.B. Gary," concatenate with "U.S. Chamber of Commerce" and read up.

      These people have also been doing "tech support" for the Middle Eastern uprisings.

      What we're seeing right now is the early stage of a force to be reckoned with.  Sure there are some arseholes in the mix, and the social ecosystem is dealing with them via a kind of immune response.  

      Would you rather that insurrectionist tactics be carried out with computers and software, or with weapons and fighting in the streets?   I'll take the former over the latter any day.  

  •  Still up and has been up all along (0+ / 0-)

    4Chan(including newt gingrich) is and has been up non-stop all day today, and yesterday. I've been maintaining a thread on s, I should know.

    And they aren't pissed off about reporting CP(that has ALWAYS happened), they're pissed about banning MLP threads/memes(no, I'm not kidding).

    You have no idea what is going on, clearly.

  •  anon sez they're just script kiddies n/t (0+ / 0-)

    "See? I'm not a racist! I have a black friend!"

    by TheHalfrican on Thu Jun 16, 2011 at 04:48:56 PM PDT

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