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Although helped along by his own issues, there was a coordinated group of unknown (?) and unidentified people who created fake Twitter accounts to help push Weiner down the garden path ~

Remember Nikki Reid, the girl who wanted to get Mr. Weiner to be her prom date at Hollywood High School (@starchild111)? Both she and one of Weiner's other Twitter friends were invented:

...there is no evidence that either girl exists. There is no Nikki Reid or Marianela Alicea enrolled at Hollywood High School. In response to requests from a reporter from the blog Mediate, a woman claiming to be Nikki Reid’s mother provided documentation to substantiate her identity and her daughter’s identity. But records show the street address the woman provided does not list anyone named Reid as an occupant. State officials in California have confirmed that the driver’s license this woman provided to Mediaite was false, as well.

 The two girls contacted Mediate.com, who referred to them as "Betty" and "Veronica" to protect their identities. A woman who called herself Betty's mother also contacted Mediate. However, when Christopher, the writer, asked for verification of Betty's identity it turned out to be fake.

The sources known as Betty, Veronica, and Mrs. Betty, in fact, appear to be the same person(s) who opened and ran the corresponding Twitter accounts, but their real life identities do not match the documentation they provided to our reporter.

Eventually, all three stopped contacting Mr. Christopher.

As part of their ongoing, independent investigations into this story, Christopher and Jennifer Preston have now verified that the driver’s license produced by Betty’s mother was fictitious. Christopher provided the driver’s license to Preston, who confirmed with California state officials that it was a fake.  The identities of Betty, her mother, and Veronica are still unknown, as are their motivations.

Was it Darryl Issa?

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  •  I'm shocked, shocked I say! (19+ / 0-)

    People on the internets pretending to be someone the aren't.

    "A witty saying proves nothing.." Voltaire

    by irate on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 08:43:19 AM PDT

    •  Not your average internet fake identity: (3+ / 0-)
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      One that's backed up by:

      a)  Fake state IDs for a "mother and daughter."

      b)  Fake biographies.

      That's not "fooling around online" it's a covert op.  

      And it deserves to be investigated by the FBI and/or Congress.

      •  Aren't fake drivers licenses illegal? (1+ / 0-)
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        G2geek

        I don't expect the FBI or Congress to investigate anything, but how about state prosecutors?

        Read pp. 1-7 of Krugman's _The Great Unraveling_ (available from Google Books). NOW.

        by neroden on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 02:25:23 PM PDT

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        •  illegal to present in certain situations... (1+ / 0-)
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          FarWestGirl

          For example to buy alcohol or do financial transactions.

          I'm not sure if they're illegal to possess or use in a situation of this type.

          Yes, the state should go after it.  But the Feds should as well because they were being used as part of a set of interstate goings-on.  Also because they demonstrate evidence of an interstate criminal conspiracy.

  •  So what you're saying is . . . (23+ / 0-)

    . . . that he's even stupider than we already knew he was.

    •  That is just not possible though... (1+ / 0-)
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      FiredUpInCA

      I'm in the I-fucking-love-this-guy wing of the Democratic Party!

      by doc2 on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 08:56:11 AM PDT

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    •  precisely nt (2+ / 0-)
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      "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

      by eXtina on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 09:33:36 AM PDT

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    •  Falling for entrapment is 'stupider' than (3+ / 0-)
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      just doing something without people egging you on?

      Interesting worldview.

    •  I am not sure this is true. (0+ / 0-)

      For example, one possible explanation for his admittedly crazy activities is that they represent a kind if panic attack. Subconsciously he may have wanted to be caught doing something so shameful that his marriage would blow up. Perhaps he had already started feeling trapped in his marriage, realizing at some level that it was a mistake. Now that his wife is pregnant, he felt the pressure even more. I am not saying this is the case, but things often look stupid when you see them out of context. Being so obvious may have been part of the internal strategy. Being caught may have been a very inchoate attempt to precipitate a "solution" to his predicament. So I am not about to point the finger these days at someone whose private motivations are not open to me. Either way, the man needs therapy to understand why this happened. When we do "stupid" things - and we all do - it is often less stupid when seen in a deeper context.

    •  A woman bearing TWO fake IDs.... (3+ / 0-)
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      .... and fake bios for herself and a nonexistent daughter, isn't evidence that Weiner was stupid.

      It's evidence of a covert operation.  

  •  identities totally invented, didn't exist (19+ / 0-)

    Much like Weiner's sense of discrete good taste / common sense. One of these days we'll get someone who both fights the good fight and can't be taken down by his penis. Smart money should probably be on somebody without a penis.

  •  So... (8+ / 0-)

    ...in other words, Wiener was an easy mark for Internet con artists.

    This guy made a fool of himself on an infinite amount of levels.

    Who will be elected to take his place in congress?  

    Another buffoon or an authentically mature & responsible Democrat?  

    Or will some teabagger nutjob take his seat?

    When Fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in excess body fat and carrying a misspelled sign.

    by wyvern on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 08:50:27 AM PDT

  •  Does any of this constitute a crime? (8+ / 0-)

    It's one thing to use a false identity on the internet (litho here!), but quite another to create a counterfeit driver's license.  Also, when does the use of a false identity constitute fraud?

    I don't know the answers, but it sure looks to me like boundaries were crossed.  Typical for a Breitbart operation, hey?

    Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free
    ¡Boycott Arizona!

    by litho on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 08:52:49 AM PDT

  •  It does not matter. (10+ / 0-)

    We know that there were a half dozen or so real life women who he said stuff to like "I want to fuck you silly". So who cares if some Republicans also friended him or whatever? Give it up already; he brought embarrassment to our Party and has been shamed and run out of town. The system worked.

    I'm in the I-fucking-love-this-guy wing of the Democratic Party!

    by doc2 on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 08:55:44 AM PDT

    •  fools cannot be tricked into being fools. (6+ / 0-)

      i am SOOOOO sick of elected fools of BOTH parties!

      MOVE'EM UP! ROLL'EM OUT... MOVE'EM UP RAWHIDE!!! meeeoooow! mrraaarrr!! meeeOOOOOW!

      by edrie on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 09:12:14 AM PDT

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    •  No! I will not give it up (2+ / 0-)
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      until Andrew Breitbart is either in jail or sued so bad he's forced to dumpster dive.

      If that's the "system" that works, then the system is rotten to the core.

      So who cares if some Republicans also friended him or whatever?

      You should care.

      liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

      by RockyMtnLib on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 09:37:31 AM PDT

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      •  It hurts that this makes Breitbart (4+ / 0-)
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        look like he had a success. But he did. And Anthony Weiner teed it up for him, which is unforgivable. The fact is that Weiner is an asshole AND Breitbart is an asshole. Both are true.

        I'm in the I-fucking-love-this-guy wing of the Democratic Party!

        by doc2 on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 09:44:56 AM PDT

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        •  I don't disagree. (1+ / 0-)
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          Weiner was a total idiot for making himself vulnerable to partisan dirty tricks, but none of that changes the fact that Breitbart and James O'Keefe need to be held accountable once and for all for what they've done. I want the two of them to suffer.

          Sometimes I wish we had the "fuck with us and we will grind you into powder" approach.

          liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

          by RockyMtnLib on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 09:57:35 AM PDT

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        •  dude, if you don't recognize a covert op when..... (1+ / 0-)
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          ... it's staring you in the face....

      •  doc2 has been on a bluedog-style rip tear.... (1+ / 0-)
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        .... on this issue since day one.  

        But the bottom line in this case is:   Fake bios backed with fake state IDs = a covert operation.  The zeroed in on Weiner's personal weakness and egged it on, attempting to entrap him.  And it worked.

        •  Yeah, me and the Democratic leadership (0+ / 0-)

          and most of the people in the country. But label it blue-dog if you'd like, as I'm sure you label all people with whom you disagree on something.

          I'm in the I-fucking-love-this-guy wing of the Democratic Party!

          by doc2 on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 01:54:36 PM PDT

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          •  and ACORN, Shirly Sherrod, Planned Parenthood... (1+ / 0-)
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            ....and the rest of Breitbart's victims.  They were all guilty as sin because the Democratic Leadership says so or a majority in Congress says so.  

            Sorry dude, majorities can be wrong as in wrong on the facts.  

            •  Weiner is no victim. Of anything, or (0+ / 0-)

              anyone. It was not a matter of if he'd be caught, only when. It happened to have been Breitbart, but soon enough it would have been somebody else. This really has nothing to do with Breitbart.

              I'm in the I-fucking-love-this-guy wing of the Democratic Party!

              by doc2 on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 07:32:42 PM PDT

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              •  oh puh-leeze. now you're jumped the shark. (1+ / 0-)
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                This has NOTHING to do with Breitbart?

                I suppose you think Bush won fair & square in 2000 and 2004?

                Anyway, I know a few things about this that aren't public yet, and that will be coming out in the next couple of weeks, so go ahead and make another disparaging remark and we'll see what happens.  Hint: you're going to end up looking really foolish when all's said & done.  

        •  It's not entrapment if you've got a propensity ... (0+ / 0-)

          to do it, and he obviously did, since he was also doing with REAL women what they were apparently trying to get him to do with fake women.

          This is no more "entrapment" than when a police officer pretends to be a 13 year old girl on the internet in order to get evidence against people seeking sexual liaisons with minors, or when an undercover cop makes a drug buy from a dealer.  It's ONLY entrapment, at least in the legal meaning of the term, if you're persuaded to do something under false pretenses that you wouldn't otherwise be inclined to do.

          PROUD to be a Democrat!

          by leevank on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 03:09:42 PM PDT

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          •  rationalizations abound. (1+ / 0-)
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            You do realize, don't you, that you're rationalizing and justifying a Breitbart witch hunt?

            Weiner had a weener problem, but that's between him and his family and the women he showed his weener to.  

            Breitbart ran a covert op to try to get him to show his weener to teenage girls.  And the proof of it is two fake state IDs with detailed false bios behind them.  

            I suppose you also think that Bush really won in 2000 and 2004.  

            Fucking sad.  

            •  No, what's sad is you making excuses for ... (0+ / 0-)

              a guy who sent the pictures that Weiner did of himself, virtually BEGGING to get caught, and then lied to you, me, the news media, the Democratic leadership, and anybody else he could find.  What's really pathetic is that because you agree with him politically, you're apparently willing to excuse virtually any stupidity and dishonesty on his part.  It doesn't become less stupid or dishonest just because it's a Democrat who does it.

              PROUD to be a Democrat!

              by leevank on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 04:38:23 PM PDT

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              •  oh cut the bull poopies. (2+ / 0-)
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                I was bloody pissed about Weiner's lying because people I know spent much time and effort investigating what he claimed was a hack attack.  

                However I got mad and then I got over it.  

                And this isn't about "excusing" what Weiner actually did, it's about going to war against a sociopathic monster who has been stirring up one witch hunt after another, and putting one feather in his cap after another, all with the complicity of fools in the Democratic party who are more concerned with protecting the appearance of propriety and rectitude than with fighting the friggin war that's right in our faces.

                Go ahead, lose another battle, and then lose another one, and lose some more, and them meep and moan about all the losses.  I'm sure history will treat you well.  

    •  Private conversation about personal matters... (4+ / 0-)

      ...is apparently no longer allowed.

      I wonder what would have happened if he'd simply applied the one single thing Dennis Miller ever said that wasn't stupid, in criticising Bill Clinton's "I didn't inhale" inanity, "Yeah, I smoked it, then I drank the bong water!" and simply said something like "Yeah I engage in adult and private conversations on the internet with consenting adults.  Now let's get back to finding out why Clarence Thomas didn't report his wife's income from people he's hearing cases about"

      I think that some of this bullshit is completely rooted in some people's personal attitudes about sexuality, that somehow, talking and writing about sexual matters and looking at sexually explicit images is "perverted", just listen to some of the bullshit being said by people who are CLEARLY a bunch of prudes who are revelling in the opportunity to stick their personal beliefs in everyone's face-and a bunch of those prudes are right here in this bastion of liberality and freedom of thought.

      Weiner should not have lied about his sexuality.  He should have acknowleged that the photos and messages were his, they were private, and refused further discussion.  Instead, he lied, hurt the party, hurt the country, gave the douchebags ammo for more lies and bullshit.  

      Fucking democrats! (head-shaking facepalm)

      "Ronald Reagan is DEAD! His policies live on but we're doing something about THAT!"

      by leftykook on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 11:55:07 AM PDT

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      •  The lying made it worse. (1+ / 0-)
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        But not everyone views these "private" conversations as being as harmless as you do. I don't want our Democratic representatives sending even private texts to strange women telling them that there "pu**ies are hot". Enough already with the defending of this louse!

        I'm in the I-fucking-love-this-guy wing of the Democratic Party!

        by doc2 on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 01:26:49 PM PDT

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      •  how far we've fallen. (2+ / 0-)
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        Prudery and puritanism in extremes.  

        But Weiner's fatal flaw wasn't that he's a horn dog, it's that he lied about it.  That's what cost him the support of most of the progressive community.  

        First day, he should have come out with the truth, and then said "Breitbart is just jealous of my manly attributes."   That meme would have stuck too.

        Meanwhile we have evidence here of a covert operation that includes coordinated fake biographies and at least two pieces of fake state identification.   This needs to be investigated by the FBI.  

        •  You are out there, really. (0+ / 0-)

          You think it is okay for a public servant to post pics of his genitals on the internet, and then brag about them? That is a "meme" you think would stick? Crazy.

          I'm in the I-fucking-love-this-guy wing of the Democratic Party!

          by doc2 on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 01:57:00 PM PDT

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          •  It would stick. (1+ / 0-)
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            Not among everyone, but honestly, it would work.  You have no understanding of the general attitude in, well, New York City.

            Read pp. 1-7 of Krugman's _The Great Unraveling_ (available from Google Books). NOW.

            by neroden on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 02:26:54 PM PDT

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          •  i happen to detest adultery. (0+ / 0-)

            I think it should be a criminal fraud offense.

            But at present it's not illegal.

            As for posting pictures of genitals, I could care less.  Roughly fifty percent of humanity own penises, and most of the other 50% borrow them occasionally.  It's only a penis.  It's not torture, it's not child abuse, it's not the plutocracy robbing the rest of us blind.  It's only a friggin penis.  

            And bragging about one's penis or posting pictures of it isn't enough to justify throwing someone out of office.  Particularly when doing so only creates a victory for one of our sworn enemies who will stop at nothing to crush us, and who apparently attempted to get Weiner to send pictures to a fake teenage girl.  

            If you're a prude, that's your problem.

            If you join up with the witch hunt, that's a bigger problem.

  •  Sorry for the disappearing act (4+ / 0-)

    but Mr. Sprinkle's daughter is coming over momentarily with some Father's Day lunch  - and we were OUT OF BLOODY MARY MIX!

     It was a dire emergency.

  •  Can't help those (1+ / 0-)
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    who won't help themselves, the Dems or Weiner, or NPR.  Nothing to do about this any more, and Weiner incurred the undying wrath of the Obama supporters by criticizing the President.

    The two things Teabaggers hate most are: being called racists; and black people.

    by Punditus Maximus on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 09:22:04 AM PDT

    •  So sad and typical (5+ / 0-)
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      Can't help those who won't help themselves, the Dems or Weiner, or NPR.  Nothing to do about this any more, and Weiner incurred the undying wrath of the Obama supporters by criticizing the President.

      Everything that happened to Weiner was because he was a twit on Twitter. Every high schooler knows that the internet is the anti-Vegas: what happens on the internet stays on the internet.

      So when as a twit, you tweet your erection to a college student, and your engorged member to a porn star, and sext with strangers as a loudmouth, liberal politician whose being monitored by the right-wing, you are playing with fire and it is just a matter of time when you will get caught, not if you get caught.

      Weiner ruined Weiner's reputation, career and trust with the public. Weiner's a big boy with a big mouth. Let's not turn him into some innocent martyr just because he embarrassed himself and a lot of progressives who thought he crapped marble.

      •  He's not an innocent martyr. (1+ / 0-)
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        He's a guilty martyr.  He did something stupid, and the reaction was overwhelming, because he's a Democrat.

        Remember, Diaper Dave Vitter is still serving.  I'm disturbed by how disloyal our movement is to the human failings of our fellow members.  

        http://www.dailykos.com/...

        In what is being described by Democratic sources as an amazing coincidence, all Democratic members of Congress resigned today, just hours after the resignation of embattled Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY).

        The coincidental mass resignation came in the wake of an e-mail to all Democratic members by blogger-cum-extortionist Andrew Breitbart, containing only the phrase "I Know What You Did Last Summer."

        The two things Teabaggers hate most are: being called racists; and black people.

        by Punditus Maximus on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 11:45:40 AM PDT

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        •  This isn't primarily about human failing (2+ / 0-)
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          this is about political failing. He became a liability and had to be cut loose.

          He did something stupid, and the reaction was overwhelming, because he's a Democrat.

          After it was revealed he did something stupid and sent an unsolicited erection photo to a college student. No Democrat publicly called for his resignation.

          After he went on several interviews and started giving cagey answers to a simple question--is that you, Anthony?--no Democrat called for his resignation.

          After he reluctantly acknowledged that he had been lying, well after his pics and texts were leaked worldwide, still no Democrat called for his resignation.

          It was not until the nude engorged photo surfaced at the same time that police were investigating his private conversations with a 17-year-old girl that wasn't even his constituent, that the Democratic leadership made the political decision that he had become a reckless liability.

          Remember, Diaper Dave Vitter is still serving.  I'm disturbed by how disloyal our movement is to the human failings of our fellow members.
           

          Remember Republican Rep. Chris Lee is not. He got less than  48 hours to hand in his resignation--no press conferences, no drip, drip, drip of revelations, no misleading his wife, colleagues and bloggers about his innocence so that they would end up trashing their reputations to save his, which is what happened to diarists who stuck by Weiner here at Daily Kos.

          A couple of things about Vitter: 1) He's a Republican. Either Democrats are supposed to have better character than them or they're not. 2) The prostitutes and Vitter both knew what they were in for when they transacted. Weiner's Twitter followers didn't know that following him would be a license to receive sex chat and erection photos 3) There were no pictures of Vitter. A permanent photographic record, only one google away, puts the Weiner scandal in a different category than Clinton or Vitter. (Possibly not progressive superhero John Edwards because he reportedly has a sex tape.) 4) He's apparently not into diapers. That's something a blogger came up with and but could not verify.

          http://righthandthief.blogspot.com/...

        •  I suspect that if there had been pictures of ... (0+ / 0-)

          Vitter, and he'd lied about it for a week and then had to fess up, he'd be gone too.

          PROUD to be a Democrat!

          by leevank on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 03:12:57 PM PDT

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  •  Why on earth has this been recommended? n/t (3+ / 0-)
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    All I see is these fake fucks with no fangs tryin' to draw blood from my ice-cold veins. - Jay-Z

    by fou on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 09:27:09 AM PDT

    •  because it's evidence of a coordinated covert op. (1+ / 0-)
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      Fake biographies backed by fake state ID cards.

      That's more than playing games on the internet.

      That's prima facie evidence of a coordinated covert operation to bring him down.  

      And like all of Breitbart's ops to date, it worked.

      •  Well duh. (0+ / 0-)

        Of course they laid a trap for Weiner, and the idiot walked right into it.  These guys hung Weiner with his own rope.  End of story.

        All I see is these fake fucks with no fangs tryin' to draw blood from my ice-cold veins. - Jay-Z

        by fou on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 10:40:26 PM PDT

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  •  here's my only gripe: (4+ / 0-)

    the dems should have been in lockstep when the asked for Weiner's resignation....they should have said something to the effect of  "that shit may fly in the Republican Party...but in the Democratic Party, we do more than pay lip-service to family values"  over and over again so that when they asked for Weiner's resignation they could also take a shot at the republican hypocrisy.

    •  If a message falls in the media forest (4+ / 0-)
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      would anybody hear it?

      On NBC’s Meet the Press...Wasserman Schultz called for Weiner to resign and called out Priebus’ hypocrisy on congressional sex scandals.

      WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: What Reince is saying doesn’t pass the straight face test from the chair of a party, none of whose leaders called for Senator Vitter, who actually broke the law, to resign. Who is still serving in office. … Hired prostitutes, and evaded the truth.

      Chairman Priebus was chairman when Senator Ensign was also embroiled in unethical, unacceptable, and probably illegal conduct, and he did not call on Senator Ensign to resign. … So it’s a double standard. You only cal for Democrats’ resignations, not Republicans.

      http://thinkprogress.org/...

      I think the strategy you suggested is spot on but we have a media that says, if all the Democrats are saying the same thing they're just being a wall of talking points and we're not going to be their stenographers.

      When Republicans all echo each other, the media is duty-bound to get their message out over and over, as a counter to the Democratic President and Democratic-dominated Senate because the Democrats have an unfair messaging disadvantage since they have the Presidency and the Senate.

      So in fairness we need to hear from the GOP more.

      When the GOP has the Presidency and the Senate, we don't really need to hear from the Democrats then either, because after all they don't have any power and we need to hear from the people actually running the country.

      •  you're exactly right on this; (2+ / 0-)
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        I think the strategy you suggested is spot on but we have a media that says, if all the Democrats are saying the same thing they're just being a wall of talking points and we're not going to be their stenographers.

        But hey...let the media accuse the dems of using talking points...and just keep using them...over and over again.  Every congressman and senator should have sent out a statement with the headline "Weiner's actions may be tolerable in the Republican Party...but not in the Democratic Party"  The press is lazy...they like statements.  Your whole comment is spot on though.

    •  I thought they should have been in lock step (1+ / 0-)
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      to say he should stay, but I get your point.

      The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness

      by CTMET on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 11:27:53 AM PDT

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      •  if you wanna go that route..and I'd (2+ / 0-)
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        really have liked to see that as well...then the response I'd have liked to have seen would have gone something to the effect of "Anthony Weiner should resign at the same time Senator Ensign resigns, Senator Vitter, Governor Sanford (stanford?), etc....who also made moronic personal decisions.

        Now what I think would have held some dems back would be the thought that perhaps Weiner had contact with minors...the fact that he had been dishonest about the situation from the beginning made that a real fear, IMO....but I think it'd be hard to circle the wagon around a guy who had that possibility looming around.  In many cases a simple affair would have been less politically damaging..IMO of course.

  •  Classic honey-pot (3+ / 0-)
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    skrekk, leevank, G2geek

    with an internet twist.

  •  "Weiner's Twitter friends were invented" (0+ / 0-)

    This makes sense because so were his stories and his political relevance.

  •  I'm shocked! (4+ / 0-)
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    FiredUpInCA, CS in AZ, bos1024, wsexson

    People can invent identities on the internet?!?  You mean that Nigerian banker I just provided with my bank account information isn't really a banker?  Uh-oh!

    The fact that Weiner was apparently too stupid to realize that he could easily be set up in this manner, even by itself, would be enough that his resignation is no big loss.

    PROUD to be a Democrat!

    by leevank on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 10:38:38 AM PDT

    •  true, he should have paid the $49.95 or whatever (0+ / 0-)

      it is, and used the online people search tool sites to make sure he could trust his sexting buddies first.

    •  Especially since they warned him they were (1+ / 0-)
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      watching him, and were on to his activities. They warned him. And yet he did not stop ... instead he made a major error, posted his pic on his public twitter page, which simply made their job that much easier. Simply inexcusable, from a political standpoint. Why people are still defending him is beyond me.

    •  WITH FAKE STATE ID CARDS??!?!!! (2+ / 0-)
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      Dude, are you dense or what?  You missed the biggest part of the whole fucking story:  Fake biographies backed by fake state ID cards.

      That was not casual goofing around online.

      That was evidence of a coordinated covert operation to leverage the guy's personal weakness into a takedown.  

      It worked.

      Breitbart won again.

      How's it feel to be a Breitbart dupe, eh?

      •  I don't defend the use of fake ID cards, but ... (0+ / 0-)

        they had NOTHING to do with what Weiner was sending, or with who he was sending it to.  Of course, there was a coordinated operation to use his weaknesses to bring him down, but they were HIS weaknesses.  They weren't created or even magnified by the covert operation.  He behaved like a total idiot, and people who behave like total idiots don't generally have it end well, and I generally don't have much sympathy for them.  

        There's a big difference between what Breitbart did so Shirley Sherrod, which was to make it appear that nothing was actually something, and what he (or whoever was running the covert operation) did to Anthony Weiner, which was simply to reveal the truth about him.

        If that makes me a "Breitbart dupe" in your view, so be it.

        PROUD to be a Democrat!

        by leevank on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 02:29:19 PM PDT

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        •  yes, it does. (0+ / 0-)

          Make you a Breitbart dupe.  

          Weiner's sex problems have nothing to do with public policy.

          Breitbart's sting operations and covert ops in general have been succeeding because people like you are more concerned with appearances than with fighting the war against the plutocracy.

          Fucking pathetic.  

  •  Weiner is responsible for messing around (1+ / 0-)
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    with other women like that. Even though it's sending photos and texting - no physical activity - it still amounts to cheating on one's partner.

    He's culpable 100% in this, and so are the women who were involved,whether or not they used fake identities. It doesn't matter if they're just citizens and he's an elected official. Fidelity to one's partner is not a standard to impose on some but to excuse of others. You don't mess around with another woman's man, or another man's woman, or same-sex partner, period!

    I wouldn't cheat on my wife but I know that if hypothetically I were to I wouldn't be the only one in trouble with her. She'd do everything she can to make the other woman pay.

    liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

    by RockyMtnLib on Sun Jun 19, 2011 at 10:54:58 AM PDT

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