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For some reason, holding Top Secret Meetings to save our "free market" way of life, kind of bugs me.

It's not just that I don't trust Billionaires -- it just kind of bugs me they want to Buy our Democracy and Public Assets outright (whenever a sympathetic Governor will help them), turning our States' precious Resources, into their part of their own Private-Sector empires.  

Public Debt? -- No Problem! Have they got a Deal for you.

Billionaire brothers to host conservative seminar in Vail

Virginia governor among those on Koch brothers' guest list this weekend

Lauren Glendenning, The Vail Daily, Aspen, CO Colorado --  June 24, 2011

A recent study by The Center for Public Integrity, a Washington-based watchdog, found that Koch Industries, the brothers' Kansas-based energy company that is the second largest private company in the United States, has increased its spending on lobbying from $856,000 in 2004 to $20 million in the last two years. The report also shows the company had $100 billion in revenues in 2009.

“Our goal is really just to expose the work that they do,” Jenny Flanagan said [of Colorado Common Cause].

Nancy Pfotenhauer, spokeswoman for Koch Industries, Inc., issued the following statement to the Vail Daily Thursday:

“This conference brings together some of America's greatest philanthropists and most successful business leaders whose companies have created millions of real jobs. Attendees will discuss solutions to our most pressing issues and strategies to promote policies that will help grow our economy, foster free enterprise and create American jobs.”

"... grow the economy, foster free enterprise and create American jobs" ...

All in total secrecy, with total anonymity, of course.  Can't have those pesky reporters snooping around ... now can we?

That wouldn't be polite.  Billionaires and their Guests, need their Privacy.

Public Accountability? -- they Don't need no Accountability -- they're Billionaires;   They're the "Job Creators" ...

THEY define the Accountability, in Today's America ... move along people.

Billionaires and their honored Guests, need their Privacy.

Perry spoke Sunday at Koch brothers’ gathering near Vail
by Jason Embry, Austin -- June 27, 2011

Gov. Rick Perry spoke Sunday at a summit hosted by the billionaire Koch brothers near Vail, Colorado.

Perry spokesman Mark Miner described the Colorado summit as a “private gathering of business leaders” and said it was not related to a possible presidential campaign.

Miner also said Perry talked about issues related to his role as chairman of the Republican Governors Association.

The guest list is kept secret, and organizers won’t say where the four-day retreat is being held beyond describing it as in the Vail area.

Oh I see, No need to Make Public, the tactics and strategies to continue the GOP campaign to take over even more States, to break them up, and sell off the pieces to the highest bidders.

-- It's Not like State Governor Campaigns, are of concern to the Public or anything.

Who needs Public Disclosures when they got Front Groups, to bemuse the locals ... as the Bloomberg News, has just recently noticed ...

Koch Brothers Spread Influence Via Blueberry Farmer [in Maine]
by William McQuillen and Jonathan D. Salant -- - Jul 15, 2011

Donations to Americans for Prosperity jumped to $16.6 million in 2009 from $3.5 million in 2007, Internal Revenue Service filings show. Koch Industries’ spending to lobby on federal issues surged 40-fold to $8.1 million last year from $200,000 in 1998, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a Washington-based research group.

The spending can make a powerful impact,” Ross Baker, a political science professor at Rutgers University in New Brunswick, New Jersey, said in an interview. “There is a bottom-up effect. You only have to see what is happening in Ohio and Wisconsin.”

Walker, Kasich

The group’s support for Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker and Ohio Governor John Kasich helped the two Republicans win legislation restricting public employee unions. In Wisconsin, Americans for Prosperity organized rallies, set up a pro-Walker website and announced an ad campaign costing more than $300,000 to support him.

Firing Public Workers, Breaking up Unions, running False Ads ad nauseum, to get your Governor-picks elected ...  Well, that's Priceless!

I can see why the Kochs might want to keep all THAT Secret.

Shoot, if you make too much fuss folks, they might Shut Down your entire State Government -- if you ask them too many questions ...

We can't have that -- They are the "Job Creators"

Common Cause to protest conservative Koch brothers confab Sunday in Avon
by David O. Williams, Real Vail – June 24, 2011

Colorado Common Cause today issued a release saying it will join with labor organizations and other progressive groups to “protest against oil/corporate billionaires Charles and David Koch’s efforts to control the nation’s future by spending hundreds of millions of dollars in secret money” on campaign ads.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

No one is above the Law.

Money is Power.

Money is also Speech.  

... and Corporate Speech is paramount -- the flow of which must not be interrupted, especially when that Speech is occurring behind closed doors, from Billionaire slush funds fire hydrants.

Go figure.  Funny system we got here ... where Lies are speech too.  The People deserve to be Mis-informed, by unknown, unnamed Benefactors.  That's the American {Corporate} Way!

Pretty soon Corporate Titans will be holding Secret Meetings, to discuss the Threats facing their America.   Only Republican Power Players invited.  You understand America, the "Little People" need not worry, this is how Business gets done ... you know -- 'Pink Slip' anyone?

Billionaire brothers to host conservative seminar in Vail
Lauren Glendenning, The Vail Daily, Aspen, CO Colorado --  June 24, 2011

Money and influence

In a September 2010 letter to supporters, Charles Koch describes the annual meetings as a way to review strategies
for combating the multitude of public policies that threaten to destroy America as we know it.”

“Our goal for these meetings must be to advance ideas that strengthen that freedom, beat back the unrelenting attacks and hold elected leaders accountable,” Charles Koch wrote.

The meetings, “Understanding and Addressing Threats to American Free Enterprise and Prosperity,” are invitation-only. While members of the media are not among those invited, millionaire, right-wing donors are.

Flanagan [of Colorado Common Cause] said the seminars are so important because it's when the brothers and their donors decide how to spend their money.

“We're talking about millions of dollars that are used to influence public policy,” Flanagan said. “This is the meeting where they come together and figure out where they're going to spend this money.”

Flanagan said money has been spent on everything from rolling back environmental protections to attacking social security.

The biggest concern we have is that the money will be spent in secret,” Flanagan said.

Afterall if they Told Us -- WHAT they were up to -- just where their Millions in Free-Secret-Speech were going -- We might actually be able to Do Something to Stop them.

Now that wouldn't be prudent, now would it?  

That could make us, the Public, a part of their Problem.

What's this a rare ray of Sunlight?  Are their Campaign Coffers about to be filled?

Koch Network Participants, Vail 2011

Name                             About

Kenneth T Cuccinelli II    Attorney General, Commonwealth of Virginia

David Koch            Richest man in New York

Charles G. Koch       Libertarian billionaire scion of the Koch empire.

Fred Malek            Republican Operative, Business luminary

Robert F McDonnell    Governor of Virginia

Rick Perry            Governor of Texas

Rick Scott            Republican Governor of Florida

Us, "Little People" -- need not apply ...  and Need not know.

Free-Enterprise 'protectin' is only for Billionaires, and their chosen Representatives -- silly peasants.  Just be happy you still have cake.  

Privatization is a "Good thing"  {for them}  -- just Trust them!

Originally posted to Digging up those Facts ... for over 8 years. on Sun Jul 17, 2011 at 03:00 PM PDT.

Also republished by Exposing ALEC and Earthship Koch.

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  •  I remember cake . (3+ / 0-)

    "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

    by indycam on Sun Jul 17, 2011 at 03:10:54 PM PDT

  •  How hard can it be to find out who these people (2+ / 0-)
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    jamess, Calamity Jean

    are?  Surely there are people who work in hotels, making beds and serving food, who don't particularly agree with the Koch program, and who would be willing to discuss it with an enterprising reporter in exchange for anonymity.

  •  The Koch condom to protect America. (2+ / 0-)

    Don''t tell the kids.  It's prophylactic.

    . . . from Julie, Julia. "Oh, well. Boo-hoo. Now what?"

    by 88kathy on Sun Jul 17, 2011 at 03:22:33 PM PDT

    •  lol (1+ / 0-)
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      Well at least we won't "catch anything" ...

      as we ... er nevermind.

      What is necessary to change a person is to change his awareness of himself.
      -- Maslow ...... my list.

      by jamess on Sun Jul 17, 2011 at 03:24:44 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  They need a condom for what they are fixing to (1+ / 0-)
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        do.  You can too buy the Brooklyn Bridge.  Who knew.

        This reminds me of when my friend got a job at the drug store and was selling cosmetics to all her friends for 10 cents.  I remember she got in serious doo doo.  Now the Koch brothers are doing it.  At least they are still hiding.

        . . . from Julie, Julia. "Oh, well. Boo-hoo. Now what?"

        by 88kathy on Sun Jul 17, 2011 at 03:37:49 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  wait a this Nacy Pfotenhauer (5+ / 0-)

    the same one that worked for John McCain and is constantly working as a talking head for Fox News?  I couldn't imagine it since they never disclose that information...ok now I gotta finish this great diary.

    •  most excellent Dot-connecting mos1133 (7+ / 0-)


      Nancy Pfotenhauer, McCain’s Dirty Energy Spokeswoman
      by Brad Johnson, -- Jun 28, 2008

      On “Fox and Friends” yesterday, Nancy Mitchell Pfotenhauer — a top policy adviser for Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) — derided those who say that lifting the offshore drilling moratorium won’t affect gas prices, saying it “reveals ignorance on the futures markets.”

      That position puts her at odds with the federal Energy Information Administration, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-CA), McCain economic adviser Douglas Holtz-Eakin, and even McCain himself. Why would Pfotenhauer go so far off message?

      Perhaps it’s because the only ones who would benefit from lifting the moratorium are energy companies like Koch Industries (pronounced “coke”), the largest private company in the United States, the secretive backer of the right-wing message machine, and Pfotenhauer’s longtime boss.

      What is necessary to change a person is to change his awareness of himself.
      -- Maslow ...... my list.

      by jamess on Sun Jul 17, 2011 at 04:02:08 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  one reason always cited by repubs and (2+ / 0-)
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    right wingers like the Koch brothers for not hiring is that businesses just can't take the chance on spending their money when they don't know if their taxes will go up.  I find it very ironic that this doesn't stop them from increasing their spending on politics.

    Koch Industries’ spending to lobby on federal issues surged 40-fold to $8.1 million last year from $200,000 in 1998, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a Washington-based research group.
    •  The Koch Brothers are middlemen. (0+ / 0-)

      In a sense, our public corporations are also middlemen -- transmitters, rather than originators of goods and services.  As such, private and public corporations see themselves contesting for the same pot of money and, in their see-saw model of the world, when one side gets more, the other gets less.  
      More taxes = less profit.

      That's not actually how it works since money is a worthless icon that just gets passed around, but that's what they believe.  So private corporations put a lot of effort into trying to keep public corporations from getting more money. And because they put so much effort into accumulating and hoarding money, they can't believe it's worthless.

      by hannah on Sun Jul 17, 2011 at 05:53:30 PM PDT

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  •  Secessionist society meetings were on the QT (2+ / 0-)
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    back in the day, too.

    God, I hope they are ginning up for something stupid. In my experience well-placed well-heeled people are not statistically more intelligent or wise than the rest of the planet.

    And often out of the habit of not making bad calls since their means give them a passel of Get Out of FAIL Free cards.

  •  These guys need some serious investigating.... (4+ / 0-)

    Oh to have the outrage the Brits do about borderline illegal activities of the rich and powerful.  

    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." A. Einstein

    by moose67 on Sun Jul 17, 2011 at 04:48:29 PM PDT

  •  Hi jamess, good to see this. (1+ / 0-)
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    Republished to Earthship Koch.

    Another DKos group has some very good diaries about the Koch brothers and ALEC, Exposing Alec.  Alas not a member so kos mail them for a republish.

    Here is a link to a good summary diary from yesterday:
    by Bob Sloan

    Science is hell bent on consensus. Dr. Michael Crichton said “Let’s be clear: The work of science has nothing to do with consensus... which is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right,”

    by Regina in a Sears Kit House on Sun Jul 17, 2011 at 05:32:04 PM PDT

  •  Of course, privacy and secrecy are the (1+ / 0-)
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    heart of the matter.
    A little history is in order.  Although the Constitution aims to insure individual human rights by placing strict limitations on what the agents of government may and must do -- i.e. the obligations of their various offices-- and while as early as 1789 the passage of the Alien Tort Claims Act made it possible for foreign persons to bring legal suit against public officials who had, either through negligence or malfeasance, done them wrong, Americans had no such recourse.  Indeed, public officials enjoyed not just immunity from prosecution while they were engaged in public service, but the tradition of "sovereign immunity," which held that the ruler could not be questioned, continued to be honored until the passage of the Federal Tort Claims Act in 1947.  That was done in response to fraud connected to military contracts during the War.

    That the FTCA signaled the end of sovereign immunity did not sink in immediately.  Richard Nixon still thought that "when the President does it it's not a crime."  Besides, when deals were made in smoke-filled anterooms or cloakrooms and a goodly portion of the electorate was denied the vote, doing favors in secret was the norm.  Then came the civil and consumer rights revolution, open government requirements and the FOIA.  Suddenly, it was possible for everyone to know who was doing favors for and diddling whom.  So, our stalwart representatives fled into "privatization" and hid behind technocrats who'd let contracts and give away the store without the reps having a clue what was going on.  Also, it became convenient to cede all responsibility to the executive and limit his term, so he couldn't become a tyrant, while the Congress continued to diddle their constituents surreptitiously, letting the private corporations do their dirty work for them.
    Moreover, since most of our natural resources had been allocated (only a few drilling rights and mining rights left to give away), the congress-critters were content to dole out rewards for fealty and punishments for voting wrong behind the veil of money. Because if universal suffrage couldn't be reversed, the beast (the American public) had to be kept in check somehow.  Making 99% poorer pretty much did the trick, letting the Congress critters feel ever so important, while their corporate henchmen play enforcers.

    Power, to be felt, has to hurt.  But, it wouldn't do to come out and say that, would it?  There has to be at least the pretense of service.

    by hannah on Sun Jul 17, 2011 at 05:44:21 PM PDT

  •  Kochroaches Can't Spread Their Filth Safely (1+ / 0-)
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    without the cover of darkness.

    Turn on the lights, and stomp on the bugs!!

    Billionaire Kochroaches are secretly, anonymously, and currently buying right-wing extremist Congresspeople and US Supreme kangaroo kourt casefixers and pushing a NeoNazi agenda hoping to convince programmable idiots to vote against their interests and elect a teabagger NeoNazi nutjob to the presidency so they can loot the Treasury.  
    It's the Amerikan way according to Roberts, Alito, Scalia, Thomas, and Kennedy.

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