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Update: Title change, to reflect research taken up in response to a challenge received from commentator (H/T) Grannus who opines that it wont happen here. So I did research and found one learned expert  in the Columbia Journalism Review exactly of that opinion. Link below (And bunches of other links via Nieman Lab in comments).

CJR Author's point: No precedents but trouble coming as we  pay for exclusive interviews.  As for Fox, the worse thing is everything they do is legal.

Original Text, pre update:
Brit and his crew can put this in perspective better than I, so consider me the messager, not the message.

However, thought Nightowlers might like a chance to contemplate a man who did not give up on hope. It's an interview with Tom Watson, the labor backbencher (MP, not in cabinet) on his life as one of the two MP's who took on NI and News of the World, even when Blair was playing message tootsie with Brook's footsie and warning Watson that the end was nigh.

Warning: he makes predictions, so if you want the chance to be happy or hopeful, you have to put up with spoilers.  Money quotes below the fold.

Here''s one:

So how have the last few weeks been? "Sleep-deprived, totally crazy," he says, sitting in his parliamentary office during what seems to be a rare moment of calm. "But also, there's been a great sense of relief. I think I said something to David Cameron about a month before: that there were powerful forces trying to cover this story up. At some points over the last two years, I thought it might blow. But I've also thought that the lid could be welded back on. But when Nick Davies broke the Milly Dowler story, that was the point where I knew they'd never get the lid back on."
When I was first elected, I was a completely naive and gauche politician. You look at the pillars of the state: politics, the media, police, lawyers – they've all got their formal role, and then nestling above that is that power elite who are networked in through soft, social links, that are actually running the show. Why didn't I know that 10 years ago, and why didn't I rail against it? Why did I become part of it? I was 34. I'm 44 now. I was naive. But I'll never let that happen again."

MP Tom Watson for those look for hope

And now alas, in the BlueState, it's 2:30 and the Redhead need a pillow and some sleep.

Update money quote  CJR:

"Egregious screwups. But institutional scale criminality? No......A. C. Grayling had one of the better lines of the scandal when he accused Murdoch of taking NotW, and thus, all of British tabloids, “from the gutter into the sewer.” Us, we’re still safely in the gutter.
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  •  Thanks for the heads-up! nt (6+ / 0-)

    May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house. George Carlin

    by msmacgyver on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 11:52:19 PM PDT

  •  Number 11 bites the dust (12+ / 0-)
    A 71-year-old man, named in news reports here as Stuart Kuttner, former managing editor of the News of the World, was arrested on charges of conspiracy to intercept communications and corruption when he voluntarily appeared for questioning at a central London police station.

    This guy was NoTW editor for 22 years who resigned directly before the $1 million dollar payout to Gordon Taylor. He appears to be implicated by Brooks' testimony:

    Brooks, who recently resigned as chief of News International in London, said that private investigators were habitually used by the News of the World, as they were by all British papers. "The payments of private detectives would have gone through the managing editor's office," she said.

    Watson and Mensch were stellar in their questioning of these crooks. I don't know if they're lawyers but their line of questioning certainly set people up for potential perjury charges and more arrests. Great stuff all around!

    Trump / Palin 2012: "You're Fired / I Quit"

    by MKSinSA on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 12:37:00 AM PDT

  •  Fascinating note (14+ / 0-)
    Kuttner, who has “serious health problems” and had recently returned from the US for treatment, was arrested on the same allegations as former News of the World editor and former News International CEO Rebekah Brooks was, “suspicion of conspiring to intercept communications, contrary to section 1 (1) of the Criminal Law Act 1977, and on suspicion of corruption contrary to section 1 of the Prevention of Corruption Act 1906.”

    Imagine if the Murdoch empire hadn't expended so much time, energy and wealth to defeating American health care reform!

    Trump / Palin 2012: "You're Fired / I Quit"

    by MKSinSA on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 12:50:29 AM PDT

  •  The British (8+ / 0-)
    At some points over the last two years, I thought it might blow. But I've also thought that the lid could be welded back on. But when Nick Davies broke the Milly Dowler story, that was the point where I knew they'd never get the lid back on."
    don't have as welders as good as the US.  The welding is going on non-stop to try to keep this a British only story.

    Al Queda and Chinook salmon have a lot in common. Everything is fine until the seals show up.

    by Grannus on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 03:20:16 AM PDT

    •  Really? What do your sources tell you? (7+ / 0-)

      Are the DOJ subpoenas not really being issued?
      Are the instructions to the NY Post employees to save everything too late?  
      Is the stockholders suit in Delaware not going to a least lead to some discovery?
       Is the hiring of very aggressive defense lawyers specialists in the Fed. For. Corruption Act an indication that noone is shaking the cover?
      And Jude Law's hacking experience on US Soil, what about that.

      It would be great to know as much as you can tell us, since Neiman Journalism Lab shows journalis experts far from convinced that the bolts are secured. And their links while not alive on my page, on their, they take you to the source cited.

      The episode also has implications beyond News Corp. itself: Here at the Lab, Ken Doctor wrote about why media concentration could be an issue on the rise in the U.S., and the Online Journalism Review’s Robert Niles said that’s why he’s rooting for News Corp. to fail.

      Reuters’ Felix Salmon said their strategy was effective enough. Still, the scandal has led to some probing questions about the culture that the Murdochs have created at News Corp. The New York Times’ David Carr documented a history of illegal and anticompetitive behavior in the company’s American arm, and Poynter’s Steve Myers called this a corporate corruption story in the Enron vein. In the Guardian, NYU prof Jay Rosen asserted that “News Corp is not a news company at all, but a global media empire that employs its newspapers — and in the US, Fox News — as a lobbying arm.”

      The episode also has implications beyond News Corp. itself: Media consultant Alan Mutter said it weakens the already damaged trust Americans have in the media, and the New York Times reported that media consolidation opponents are hoping it provides an opportunity to re-examine the problems in modern media ownership. Here at the Lab, Ken Doctor wrote about why media concentration could be an issue on the rise in the U.S., and the Online Journalism Review’s Robert Niles said that’s why he’s rooting for News Corp. to fail.

      So what’s next for News Corp.? The long-term future of both Rupert and James Murdoch at the company was in question this week, though Rupert assured Parliament he’d be sticking around. Felix Salmon speculated that the whole company could be in play if things go sour, and CUNY j-prof Jeff Jarvis looked at one possible scenario resulting in a News Corp. news and publishing sell-off. Ken Doctor, meanwhile, said News Corp. might end up becoming a more American company as a result of the scandal.


      "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

      by BlueStateRedhead on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 05:06:50 AM PDT

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      •  And the most recent neiman lab prognosis (5+ / 0-)
        The New York Times’ David Carr wrote that James Murdoch is done, and that Rupert has finally been revealed as vulnerable. CUNY j-prof Jeff Jarvis was more emphatic, calling Murdoch the last media mogul: “The mogul is extinct. The kind of big media institution he built will follow him. Lovely chaos will follow. It’s called democracy.” The Washington Post’s Erik Wemple took a quick look at what a post-Murdoch world might look like.

        A couple of other News Corp.-related avenues to chase down: Dean Starkman of the Columbia Journalism Review argued that a scandal like News of the World’s won’t happen in the U.S., and News Corp.’s newest property, the tablet publication The Daily, appears to be floundering, according to a New York Observer feature, though a new version was released last week.


        "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

        by BlueStateRedhead on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 05:13:12 AM PDT

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      •  Has Eric Holder (0+ / 0-)

        or this administration shown any interest in going after large corporations for anything?  Things might happen on a low level, but that is where the buck stops.  The leaders are all protected.

        Al Queda and Chinook salmon have a lot in common. Everything is fine until the seals show up.

        by Grannus on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 01:42:22 PM PDT

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  •  final proof of the pudding will be the price (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    BlueStateRedhead, Brit, Oh Mary Oh

    Murdoch does or does not pay

    •  meanwhile, has the Guard. given up? (5+ / 0-)

      No comments on the Watson story

      Live blog ends last Friday?

      No uptake on NY Harbottle/lewis story.

      Is with Nick Davies in the USA, the motor is idling?

      should we doing some work on the starter motor ourselves?

      "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

      by BlueStateRedhead on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 05:40:05 AM PDT

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      •  Hey sorry to miss this diary (6+ / 0-)

        ...and not comment before. The Tom Watson biography is awesome, and of course revealing: both he and Michael Wolff became targets of NI journalists for daring to cross the powers that be. Good for them for not being intimidate - as many politicians were.

        In Watson's case, he was mistakenly associated with the notorious red rag scandal which I know something about, because it concerns my UK blogging home: Labourlist.  The scandal revolved around an email which the founder, Derek Draper, apparently received from one of Brown's aides, Damian McBride.

        As the hacking scandal goes deeper into computer hacking and other forms of surveillance, we've all got to ask ourselves... how did that email come out.

        The Watson story has received quite a lot of attention alread, and probably comments were disabled. He's been a growing figure over the last six months so this is really a summation of what people here already know - so no news breaker. He's likely to win many prizes as Parliamentarian of the year

        But don't worry. Things are simmering under the surface, with legal maneouvres and the largest police investigation in the country.

        Sorry I wasn't around to keep this on the rec list

        "It is only for the sake of those without hope that hope is given to us." Walter Benjamin. More sane debate on the Moose

        by Brit on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 08:41:22 AM PDT

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        •  It never made rec, but stayed on the list... (5+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          Brit, KenBee, MKSinSA, cotterperson, Oh Mary Oh

          ...from  2 am to say 12:00 pm. which is gave it plenty of views, 99 in all --- and  they can't be all mine.

          and an idea for a themed diary that i can do to complement yours and crews.

          work calls. more when time allows.

          "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

          by BlueStateRedhead on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 09:31:42 AM PDT

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  •  One paragraph that (6+ / 0-)

    stood out to me in the Tom Watson story

    Of late, there have been reports that she told Labour insiders she would pursue Watson "for the rest of his life" – a story he dates to the Labour party conference of 2006. When the Red Rag story broke, he claims Brooks texted Labour cabinet ministers, demanding that he was sacked.

    Oh, the irony.

    Beware the Spinning Vase of Death!!!

    by AnnetteK on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 01:42:16 PM PDT

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