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I can't be the only one left, even though it sometimes feels that way, especially lately.  So it would be a shot in the arm for me personally to hear from some others.

I define myself as a "loyal Democrat" because:

(1) I have supported Democrats all my adult life: voting for them in my late teens and twenties, and then starting in my thirties (I'm 42 now), donating to them and volunteering for them.  

(2) I stand by them now.  Specifically, I believe that Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Barack Obama, as well as other members of their leadership teams, are the right people for the job and are doing about as well as they can with the cards they have been dealt.

If you are with me on both those points (no one I know IRL is, including my own mother, which kind of sucks), let me know by recommending this diary and donating to the tip jar.  Comments of support are also welcome.  :)

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  •  Tip Jar (14+ / 0-)

    -9.00, -3.69 "The purpose of a campaign is not to answer their attacks, but make them answer our attacks." - Paul Begala

    by SlackerInc on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 05:52:32 PM PDT

  •  I should add... (5+ / 0-)

    ...that I am not now, nor have I ever been, employed by the Democratic Party or by any of the Democrats in Congress or the White House.  I have never even met any of them, with the sole exception of Claire McCaskill, whom I met twice (once at a gathering of volunteers on her Senate campaign, and once at a "town hall" type forum for constituents).

    -Alan

    -9.00, -3.69 "The purpose of a campaign is not to answer their attacks, but make them answer our attacks." - Paul Begala

    by SlackerInc on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 05:57:50 PM PDT

    •  My wife shook hands with Barack and Michelle... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...in Des Moines in December of 2007. (I was stuck here in Ames giving a final exam or computing grades or something.)

      At least she took a few pictures, so I do have that...lol.

      I have never even met any of them

      "If I can't dance, then I don't want to be in your revolution"--Emma Goldman

      by ehrenfeucht games on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 06:35:28 PM PDT

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    •  if you have to ask this question (4+ / 0-)
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      here, then there are some serious problems facing the Democratic Party besides "the cards that they were dealt."

      The question you should formulate is why are so many Democrats are leaving the in droves... it just can't be because they are misinformed.  Think about it.  Something happened...People were gungho for Democrats here just three years ago.  And if this is happening all over the place and not just here on DKOS, then one needs to adjust to the realities.  One needs to explain why Democrats and Independents are no longer supporting Obama... I find it all interesting that you think you need positive reinforcement for something as fundamental as the need for loyalty.  Perhaps the problem is the Dem leadership and elected officials  have not been loyal to Democratic Priorities or even the platform or you.  Not sure but you might take another look at the platform and then reread what FDR did when he saw that austerity was not working... some major things were achieved.  Politics can't be wishful thinking... they have to based on some kind of reality.  It can't be that the media just made it all up, can it?

      Pass new laws to end media monopolization now.

      by john from vermont on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 07:09:49 PM PDT

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      •  Enough with the FDR mantra (0+ / 0-)

        I hear it all the time, and it is so bogus.  You are the one suffering from wishful thinking.  Do you know how in bed with Southern white supremacists FDR got?

        -Alan

        -9.00, -3.69 "The purpose of a campaign is not to answer their attacks, but make them answer our attacks." - Paul Begala

        by SlackerInc on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 07:24:57 PM PDT

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        •  So, because FDR was not perfect in every way (1+ / 0-)
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          he's irrelevant? Is that really a hypothesis you want to advance in the same diary where you basically say there's nothing Barack Obama could do that would turn you away from your "loyalty" to him?

        •  slackerinc. (0+ / 0-)

          your response to my response seems to be talking about apples when I am talking about oranges.   I am not a big fan of FDR or Obama.  However, I am just amazed that you would find the need to ask for loyalty for Obama without presenting a thoughtful analysis on why loyalty is needed given the conditions we are faced with.   When a movement falls apart (and I include those who would have supported FDR then and now) there needs to be some reason.   It is not just folly that this is happening. It is based on realities... and you need to address those things if you have any hope to make people consider your analysis.

          I for one thought FDR did not lead but was forced to respond to a major grassroots group... what is missing today is that we don't have such a group... (perhaps the unions a bit, but not very powerful)... And I also think that grassroots effort failed even then in making FDR do more, especially in the area of race and women's rights.  Why was that?  Why did FDR feel comfortable not doing more on these problems?  Well there wasn't a large civil rights component to the grassroots movement like there would be in 60's with LBJ.  

          Once you understand the movements that actually create the conditions for change then you can understand their relationships to electoral politics... not the other way around.  

          Pass new laws to end media monopolization now.

          by john from vermont on Wed Sep 07, 2011 at 11:05:24 AM PDT

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  •  Obama is bad at his job... (0+ / 0-)

    ...and a wimp. No matter what he "believes in," if he doesn't realize that Repubs are ENEMIES and FIGHTS them, and DEMONIZES them, he will not win me over, and he will not win over the majority of voters in 2012.

    YOU also stop being a wimp and get some FIGHT in your game!

  •  Hey, try living in Kansas (7+ / 0-)

    For the last 30 years, I've lived in red states (Virginia, North Carolina and now Kansas). If THAT doesn't make you a loyal Democrat, nothing will.

    You will never know what it’s like to work on a farm until your hands are raw, just so people can have fresh marijuana. Jack Handey

    by skohayes on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 06:00:37 PM PDT

  •  I'm trying to think of a worse SML than Reid... (7+ / 0-)

    ...but, just between us Dems, I can't. I've been a Democrat since my first election in '72 and can't think of a more passive leader or a worse set of Senate rules in my adult like. Pelosi is results-oriented, she knows how to earn her contribs from me.

    Taking back the House and getting rid of Perry are the key imperatives at my house wrt time and money.

    Eliminate the Bush tax cuts Eliminate Afghan and Iraq wars Do these things first before considering any cuts

    by kck on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 06:04:15 PM PDT

    •  Harry seems like the stereotypical (6+ / 0-)

      'milquetoast', but he knows what he's doing,  he's just not publicly 'dynamic'. A little more charisma would be nice, but don't  underestimate him, he generally gets what he's working for.

      May you live in interesting times--Chinese curse

      by oldcrow on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 06:11:21 PM PDT

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    •  I don't understand why Reid (2+ / 0-)
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      doesn't just let them filibuster sometimes, like with the public option. Lieberman threatens a filibuster, why doesn't Reid just say, have at it! We'll all see how the public feels about that one. Eventually Lieberman will stop yapping and we can all move on and vote.

      •  Because a filibuster (0+ / 0-)

        means nothing these days. They did away with the stand up and read the dictionary for 24 hours to prevent a vote on the bill back in the 1970s.
        These days a filibuster is whipping 41 votes to prevent cloture.

        You will never know what it’s like to work on a farm until your hands are raw, just so people can have fresh marijuana. Jack Handey

        by skohayes on Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 04:30:49 PM PDT

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    •  The Democrats he works with in the Senate (1+ / 0-)
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      must think he is pretty good. They keep electing him and there's a reason for that.

      What Senate rules are different from what they were before?

      You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

      by sewaneepat on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 06:15:06 PM PDT

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      •  Senate rules (3+ / 0-)
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         The Senate rules haven't changed. What has changed is that Republicans have launched what they themselves call a "permanent filibuster," so that it takes 60 votes to pass legislation.
          And the rules were altered long ago so that filibustering takes place in the AM while the Senate conducts regular business in the PM.
          This has led to the virtual filibuster. Generally, a Senator simply has to announce his intention to filibuster a bill, and if Reid doesn't think he can get 60 votes for cloture, the bill is usually dropped.
          Democrats had the chance to change the Senate rules at the beginning of the session (by simple majority vote) but they didn't.
          As a result of Republican obstructionism and Democratic cooperation with the obstructionists, we effectively have minority rule in the Senate.
          But don't expect a Democratic minority to behave the same way toward a Republican President.

      •  See dallasdunlap's answer. (0+ / 0-)

        The rule book is every coach's best tool. Filibuster is the one most unmanaged by Reid and used to derail Dems.

        Eliminate the Bush tax cuts Eliminate Afghan and Iraq wars Do these things first before considering any cuts

        by kck on Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 06:54:23 AM PDT

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        •  I agree that he should make them stand up there (1+ / 0-)
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          and talk, but I thought your comment meant the rules had changed.

          I wonder if CSPAN has anything to do with the Senate's stopping of making people actually filibuster (though I believe this change predated CSPAN). But I wonder if they don't want to give that much time for the opposition to speak.

          Even though I agree that Democrats will not threaten a filibuster for every Republican proposal when things are reversed, it would  keep some of the more crazy proposals from becoming law. For that reason, I support keeping the filibuster rule. I remember times in the past when that has been important (though I can't think of any off the top of my head). But just think about a Republican president and a Republican House and various proposals for such things as anti-choice legislation, privatizing of SS and Medicare, various Supreme Court appointments.... We will all be thankful for filibuster rules in that case.

          You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

          by sewaneepat on Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 07:06:59 AM PDT

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    •  You've been around longer than I have (5+ / 0-)
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      But I've paid close attention to SMLs since Mitchell, and I like Reid and thinks he is as effective as he can reasonably be expected to be, given the ways Senate rules limit the power of the leadership.  But then, I also thought Daschle was very underrated.  It's clearly a thankless job.  What really surprises and disappoints me is the lack of love for Pelosi, as well as the lack of attention paid to her making history as the first female Speaker, compared to that (rightly) paid to Obama's being the first black President.

      -Alan

      -9.00, -3.69 "The purpose of a campaign is not to answer their attacks, but make them answer our attacks." - Paul Begala

      by SlackerInc on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 06:15:58 PM PDT

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      •  I have great respect for the difficulty... (3+ / 0-)
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        ...and especially about doing it in public. I admire public service. That doesn't influence the accountability but it will color the historical narrative.

        Parenthetically, I was once interviewed by a news crew regarding a epidemic (by NYC's own Gabe Pressman!) and after giving a detailed and earnest explanation of a complex topic, Pressman chose to frame and show a totally lame, out of context phrase that had comepletely nothing to do with what I said and failed to inform the public.

        Nevertheless, as voters, we're not here to write or explain history, we're here to push and vote. Push and vote. And never give up.

        Eliminate the Bush tax cuts Eliminate Afghan and Iraq wars Do these things first before considering any cuts

        by kck on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 07:07:05 PM PDT

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    •  I've been a democrat since I turned 18 in '78. (2+ / 0-)
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      Except for a occasional foray as an undeclared, and I agree with you.

  •  I'm a loyal Democrat....always have been, always (4+ / 0-)

    will be.  I get stressed about the pressures applied to the President by both sides.  I hate what the obstructionist Teapublicans are doing to his presidency and to our country.  I will not bitch about what he does or doesn't do, however, and get involved in the destructive arguments here.  I believe we need to fight to gain back the House and keep writing to our Congress Critters and the President to stand firm FOR the things we Democrats believe make this country a desirable place to live and AGAINST the destructive policies of the GOP.  

    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." A. Einstein

    by moose67 on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 06:05:14 PM PDT

  •  For me it's: issues > party (7+ / 0-)

    I'm more concerned with a political philosophy/ideology on the issues and then the party that best matches it.

    Most developed countries have a multiparty system and I think we should make electoral reforms so we can have that in the United States.

    In such a system I would vote for the party (or candidate) that best reflects my positions on the issues but since we don't have that I vote for the Democrats (who are too rightwing IMO) as a compromise.

    I don't consider myself a loyal Democrat as I would vote for a more left-wing party like the Greens if it was (electorally) viable.

  •  I'm one too. (2+ / 0-)
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    You are not alone.

    You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

    by sewaneepat on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 06:10:40 PM PDT

  •  I am a loyal Democrat (3+ / 0-)
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    Feeling a bit downtrodden these days what with the environmental decisions. I feel like the things Obama does that involve Congress I have a hard time blaming him for since they have gone completely insane and are utterly unwilling to give even an inch. But the decisions he makes on his own such as the EPA ozone decision, and the likely Keystone XL decision, do not require anything from the nutcases so I really would hope for a better outcome.

    Nevertheless, I am a loyal Democrat and I'm not going anywhere. I will vote for Obama again, and for all the other Dems on the ticket in front of me like I always do.

    (You and I are the same age, by the way. First presidential vote was for the now almost entirely forgotten Mike Dukakis.)

  •  so you want to hear from both sides (0+ / 0-)

    those who agree with you and those who don't disagree with you.

    "Things are never so bad they can't get worse" - Dallasdoc

    by Shahryar on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 06:13:18 PM PDT

  •  Since I Have Criticisms I Can't Be Loyal (7+ / 0-)

    even though I've always supported the party and will in 2012.

    But the loyalists understand this when they put both support and praise as twin requirements.

    Some of us get stuck on the hard numbers of what the party has done to the people and the nation. I'm proudly disloyal to the Democratic Party; I've just joined a union, as has my wife, and we will be taking every opportunity to replace the Democrats we've presently got with better ones.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 06:17:55 PM PDT

    •  I'm not saying primarying someone is inherently (3+ / 0-)
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      disloyal.  To judge whether it would cross the line (in my subjective opinion), I'd have to know which Democrats they are (to look up their voting records), and whether primarying them makes it significantly more likely that Republicans will take the seat.

      -Alan

      -9.00, -3.69 "The purpose of a campaign is not to answer their attacks, but make them answer our attacks." - Paul Begala

      by SlackerInc on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 06:21:37 PM PDT

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  •  Guess that I'm what pollsters call an independent. (1+ / 0-)
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    The only political party that I've ever been a card carrying, dues paying member of is (or was) the Iowa Socialist Party (SPUSA).

    But that was years ago. (The Ice Cream Socialists we had here in Ames rocked!)

    I do crash the Iowa Democratic Caucus every 4 years or so, mainly because it's so easy, and they let me.

    Guess I'll butt out now...lol.

    But have a T&R on me.

    Enjoy the Party!

    "If I can't dance, then I don't want to be in your revolution"--Emma Goldman

    by ehrenfeucht games on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 06:25:50 PM PDT

  •  I use a different definition of "loyalty" (10+ / 0-)

    than you do. You are loyal to individuals. I, on the other hand, am loyal to the principles the Democratic Party has long stood for--and which at least two of the three top Democrats you named in this diary have, for all intents and purposes, sold out. When they come back to those principles again, I will quite happily support them. Until then, however, they will just have to muddle along without me. I'm quite sure their corporate overlords will more than make up for any contributions I don't happen to make.

  •  Not me. Too many flame-throwers out there. If (0+ / 0-)

    you don't spout the KOS line you will be shot down.  There isn't room for any other view here. KOS is all but shut down to rational thought.

  •  Loyal Democrats criticize their party (6+ / 0-)

    their elected officials, their policies and their political strategies when they need criticizing.

    Peace,

    Andrew C. White
    Stephentown Democratic Committee Chair
    Rensselaer County Demcoratic Executive Committee member

    "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

    by Andrew C White on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 06:51:39 PM PDT

    •  I agree with that (0+ / 0-)

      I just don't have any substantial criticisms of the party's leadership right now.  (When Howard Dean was running it, I did.)

      -Alan

      -9.00, -3.69 "The purpose of a campaign is not to answer their attacks, but make them answer our attacks." - Paul Begala

      by SlackerInc on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 07:01:45 PM PDT

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      •  Then you and I have vastly different views (4+ / 0-)
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        on effective leadership.

        By the way, we won A LOT when Dean was running the DNC and we've been losing ground ever since he left. He's not the only reason for either of those results but he is part of both and those are just facts.

        Peace,

        Andrew

        "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

        by Andrew C White on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 07:09:53 PM PDT

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        •  One thing Dean understood (0+ / 0-)

          was that conservative Democrats from red states were necessary for a majority.
          We maybe can get better Democrats than Heath Shuler or Bart Stupak, but don't expect them to be Nancy Pelosi or Barney Frank.
          People thought back in 2010 that letting Blue Dogs lose would help us and make progressives stronger. Neither of those things happened.

          You will never know what it’s like to work on a farm until your hands are raw, just so people can have fresh marijuana. Jack Handey

          by skohayes on Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 04:42:48 PM PDT

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      •  By the way... your quote from Begala (2+ / 0-)
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        is right on target.

        This is one of my criticisms of current Democratic political strategy. Too much reaction, too much playing defense, and too many actions and policies that allow the other side to dictate through their attacks.

        "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

        by Andrew C White on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 07:11:37 PM PDT

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  •   One thing is eminently clear to me . . . (2+ / 0-)
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    Obama is light years better than the Republican alternative and we're fools if we don't recognize that.

    It's an incredibly frustrating time to watch American politics. Perhaps Obama's not playing it right, but if we had a congress that wasn't willing to trash anything and anyone for political expediency, Obama'd be looking a whole lot better and a lot of people's lives would be much better.

    We're lucky to have him. Thanks for the diary.

    A Republican running for office in '08? Like a rat getting on a sinking ship.

    by Natural Anthem on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 06:58:17 PM PDT

  •  I'm loyal to my beliefs. (0+ / 0-)

    I'm loyal, as a consequence, to a party and to a politician who broadly shared my beliefs.  You can figure out the rest.

    Let us resolutely study and implement the resolutions of the 46th Convention of the Democratic Party!

    by Rich in PA on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 07:07:17 PM PDT

  •  I agree. (5+ / 0-)
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    People keep asking: Why does Obama keep negotiating with Republicans?

    I keep wondering: Does the fact that they control the House of Representatives make any difference to you? Do you understand why Obama can't order the Republicans to do what he wants? Or some of the blue-dog Democrats for that matter, either?

    Do you understand how politics works? Do you understand that in politics you can't always get what you want immediately?

    Do you understand why making a big deal about the fact that Obama shifted the date of his speech from Wednesday to Thursday is an overreaction? Does shouting about how it is another example of Obama caving does not really help to advance the agenda we are all working for?

    Do you understand why fighting about minor things does not help?

    These are questions for Kos too, as I said after his overwrought diary yesterday.

    Coregonus clupeaformis/ adikameg/ the caribou of the sea

    by Whitefish on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 07:09:46 PM PDT

    •  Obama didn't even "cave" anyway (2+ / 0-)
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      Boehner has the prerogative, although traditionally Speakers didn't exercise it, of refusing to invite Obama to speak on that night.  If the president wanted to give the speech that night anyway, it would have had to come from the Oval, the briefing room, or from some other venue.  He wanted, however, to give it before Congress, which means he has to do it when Boehner invites him or not at all.

      -Alan

      -9.00, -3.69 "The purpose of a campaign is not to answer their attacks, but make them answer our attacks." - Paul Begala

      by SlackerInc on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 07:31:11 PM PDT

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    •  P.S. Didn't see markos's diary (1+ / 0-)
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      Do you have a link?

      -Alan

      -9.00, -3.69 "The purpose of a campaign is not to answer their attacks, but make them answer our attacks." - Paul Begala

      by SlackerInc on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 07:31:45 PM PDT

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    •  Dategate? (0+ / 0-)

      Nobody cares about the date of the speech.
       IMHO, where Obama really went off the rails was during the debt ceiling "crisis" in which he tried to leverage a simple debt ceiling increase into a "grand bargain" over the deficit.
       If the TPGOP is willing to destroy the govt and crash the economy over the debt ceiling, they're willing to do that over anything. He should have held out for a clean bill and announced that he would veto anything else. Let the GOP funders explain reality to them.
       The impression that Obama is weak and/or a corporate tool comes from his being repeatedly double crossed by Boehner during the debt ceiling fiasco.
       And the uncertainty over whether the govt was going to collapse in August played a large part in he economic stagnation over the past couple of months.

      •  What you missed (0+ / 0-)

        was the Republicans showing themselves as hypocrites of the first degree, which while it went by barely noticed here, the RW blogs were going crazy.
        This piece below was diaried about and was on the rec list yesterday, about another Republican party operative (a staffer on the Hill for 28 years) leaving the party. Well worth reading (none of it will be news to a Kossack, but it really nails the Republicans).

        The party has built a whole catechism on the protection and further enrichment of America's plutocracy. Their caterwauling about deficit and debt is so much eyewash to con the public. Whatever else President Obama has accomplished (and many of his purported accomplishments are highly suspect), his $4-trillion deficit reduction package did perform the useful service of smoking out Republican hypocrisy. The GOP refused, because it could not abide so much as a one-tenth of one percent increase on the tax rates of the Walton family or the Koch brothers, much less a repeal of the carried interest rule that permits billionaire hedge fund managers to pay income tax at a lower effective rate than cops or nurses. Republicans finally settled on a deal that had far less deficit reduction - and even less spending reduction! - than Obama's offer, because of their iron resolution to protect at all costs our society's overclass.

        You will never know what it’s like to work on a farm until your hands are raw, just so people can have fresh marijuana. Jack Handey

        by skohayes on Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 04:48:56 PM PDT

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  •  What the F happened with (0+ / 0-)

    Obama this week, though?  What HAPPENED?  The jobs report, the EPA debacle, the speech SNAFU?  

    It was so....odd, so lame, so Palinesque in it's incompetence that it was a reverse watershed.

    From Neocon to sane- thanks to Obama- and Kos.

    by satrap on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 07:29:22 PM PDT

  •  I'm loyal on the national ticket (1+ / 0-)
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    but I do vote for greens and even occasional libertarians in my local races, depending on the office they seek and the individual running. I have actually voted for a moderate republican for town council because he had a really great record on the environment.

    I still support Obama and will vote for him, but I do not think our party is doing well right now and I think we need to fundamentally change directions and get away from this DLC/Third Way mantra of embracing free markets. The function of the democratic party has always been, first and foremost, to tame the beast of the capitalist system, and the moment we started to run away from that we lost our way. We are now seeing the results of that, and by any estimation it has been an abject failure.

    I think the Third Way dogma is actually one of the reasons that the GOP has gone so far off the rails in the right wing. But that is one of those chicken vs. egg questions. The bottom line is our system is no longer working, because both parties seem to have abandoned everything they used to stand for. We would be a lot better off right now if we had FDR democrats and Eisenhower republicans.

    Will work for food
    Will die for oil
    Will fight for power and to the rich go the spoils
    The millionaires get to pay less tax
    The working poor get to fall through the cracks
    -James McMurtry
    -9.75/-8.26

    by SwedishJewfish on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 08:29:50 PM PDT

  •  I'm in. (4+ / 0-)

    Yeah I have my criticisms, but the bottom line is, Obama's good and Perry is a monster, and the Supreme Court is always in play.  

    The whole Democratic leadership needs to get a warrior streak, but the path from here to there begins with OUR support and OUR constant email to their offices to keep urging them to fight, fight, fight.  

  •  I'm also a loyal Democrat (0+ / 0-)

    I have voted a straight Democratic ticket in every single election for 20 years. I've never voted third party or sat out an election..

    I may sometimes feel discouraged, but that never has changed my vote or caused me not to vote.

    I believe that third parties are symbols at best, spoilers at worst.

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