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Leading Off:

Pennsylvania: There seems to be a little bit of reluctance among some Republicans for the plan that first emerged on Tuesday, under which PA would award its electoral votes by congressional district rather than via winner-take-all — a nakedly partisan move which would give a big assist to GOP hopes of taking back the White House.

There are two main reasons why some are getting cold feet, though. For one, potentially vulnerable GOP congressmen in swingish districts, like Jim Gerlach and Charlie Dent, are reluctant to bring down a full-bore Democratic presidential campaign trolling for votes on their individual turf, rather than the state as a whole. For another, some politicos think that the GOP can win the state outright next year and don't want to appear as though they are conceding a loss this early on. By the same token, the plan would also undermine Pennsylvania's traditional swing state status. Only Republicans can stop this legislation from coming to pass, so we have to hope that these anxieties win out.


CT-Sen: This is ridiculously sketchball. A "Republican source" tells local reporter Kevin Rennie he's seen an internal poll for Linda McMahon which shows her up 19 points over ex-Rep. Chris Shays in the GOP primary. That's it. No polling memo, no field dates, no pollster name — and of course, no general election numbers. Hey, if McMahon wants to spend heavily to kick Shays's ass and then spend even more heavily only to have her ass kicked (again), I'm all for it!

IN-Sen, IN-05: More good news for John McCain, my friends. State Sen. Mike Delph, who first started talking about a run all the way back in February, says he won't seek federal office. That's a boon to Treasurer Richard Mourdock, who is trying to unseat Sen. Dick Lugar in the Republican primary and now won't have to contend with a fellow insurgent potentially splitting the "throw the bums out" vote. Delph also won't pile into the clown car in the 5th CD, where a whole mess of candidates look ready to hand GOP Rep. Dan Burton another plurality win.

PA-Sen: Republican businessman Steven Welch confirms that he will indeed seek the GOP nomination to run against Sen. Bob Casey. Welch doesn't have much of a resume — he bowed out of not one but two congressional races last year — but he does have one asset: money. He's personally wealthy and apparently is willing to self-fund. That alone shoots him to the top of the very meager Republican field that's emerged so far.

Welch isn't the only newcomer to the race. I don't know if retired Col. John Vernon is much more than a Some Dude (on the senatorial scale), though from what I understand he may have some money, but anyhow, he's also getting in.


NH-Gov: Dem Gov. John Lynch will announce his future plans Thursday morning at 11am, but pretty much everyone is reporting that he won't seek a fifth two-year term. Stay tuned.


MI-01: This seems like a good get for Team Blue: Former state Rep. Gary McDowell just announced plans to seek a rematch against GOP freshman Dan Benishek in the Upper Peninsula seat long represented by Democrat Bart Stupak. McDowell seemed like a classic case of "right candidate, wrong year" in 2010: His profile fit the district well, but he lost by 11 points in the red tide. Benishek hasn't fundraised very strongly this year (around $300K total) and had only $140K in the bank at the end of June.

NY-09: Man. Read this line from Rep. Joe Crowley, the Queens party leader who anointed David Weprin as our nominee in the special election, and tell me it doesn't make you want to slap him across the face:

“We won Queens County 52-48. I had a good day yesterday in Queens.”

No, *sshole, you did NOT.

OH-09: Now it's game on for reals. Dennis Kucinich said he'll seek re-election in the new 9th CD — that's Ohio's 9th CD — which contains much of his base on the west side of Cleveland but then races a hundred miles out along the Lake Erie shoreline to take in fellow Dem Rep. Marcy Kaptur's home territory of Toledo. (It's a district fit for the name "baconmander.") Kaptur, for her part, also says she'll run here. Kucinich says that 57% of the registered Democrats in the new district live in his current district, but I'm not sure that figure is so great for him: In 2008, he won his primary with just 52% of the vote. I'm also willing to bet that Kaptur has greater cross-over appeal to voters in Cleveland than Kucinich does with those in Toledo. Still, should be a fun race (even if it sucks that we have to deal with Dem-on-Dem violence).

P.S. Commenter RBH points out that the Ohio primary is actually before Washington state's candidate filing deadline, so good ol' Special K still has an escape hatch if Kaptur whoops him. Washingtonians, you ain't out of the woods just yet!

WI-02: Dane County Treasurer (an elected position) Dave Worzala says he'll join the already-busy Democratic field to replace Rep. Tammy Baldwin, who is of course running for Senate.

Other Races:

Baltimore Mayor: As expected, Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake handily won the Democratic primary with 52% of the vote. (Her nearest opponent had 25%.) In Baltimore, winning the Dem nod is tantamount to winning office outright. Click the link to see what I mean. The winning Republican nominee for mayor got 828 votes — in a city of 621,000 people. More on the race here.

Special Elections: At least last night didn't suck as far as the half-dozen New York state Assembly special elections were concerned. Johnny Longtorso wraps up our six-for-six night:

• In AD-23 (Queens), Philip Goldfelder defeated Republican Jane Deacy by a 54-46 margin.

• In AD-27 (Queens), Michael Simanowitz defeated Republican Marco DeSena by a 76-24 margin.

• In AD-54 (Brooklyn), Rafael Espinal won with 44%, while Working Families nominee Jesus Gonzales came in second with 32%. Deidra Towns, running on the Community First ticket, came in last with 23%.

• In AD-73 (Manhattan), Dan Quart defeated Republican Paul Niehaus 66-34.

• In AD-116 (Utica/Rome), Anthony Brindisi defeated Republican Gregory Johnson 57-43. It's interesting to note that Johnson and Niehaus both ran in 2010; Johnson did slightly better than his 40% performance last time, but Niehaus didn't improve much on his 33% showing in 2010.

• In AD-144 (Buffalo/Grand Island), Sean Ryan easily defeated Republican Sean Kipp by a 71-21 margin, with Green Party nominee Gregory Horn picking up 8%. Remember, the Democrat only got 53% here in 2010; just goes to show what happens when Carl Paladino isn't on the ballot.

Grab Bag:

Nebraska: That's interesting. While the Pennsylvania GOP is trying to push a plan to award the state's electoral votes by congressional district (see "Leading Off" bullet), Nebraska Republicans are busy trying to revive their plan to terminate that system for their own state. Not that it's likely to happen again, but GOPers there don't want to give Barack Obama the chance to pick up Omaha-based NE-02's lone electoral vote, as he did in 2008. A proposal to go to a winner-take-all method died in the legislature earlier this year, but now the New Nebraska Network reports that the state Republican Party is considering adding a plank to their platform which would require that state legislators support ending the EV-by-CD system or else forfeit party backing.

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  •  In an interview with Dave Weigel of Slate... (6+ / 0-)

    The guy pushing the PA thing says that he's getting more pushback from Republicans than Dems on his idea.


    by LordMike on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 05:25:10 AM PDT

    •  Weigel's title is pretty adamant (2+ / 0-)
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      about it being "doomed."

      'The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.' -Mohandas K. Gandhi

      by KingofSpades on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 06:14:23 AM PDT

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    •  As well he should. (3+ / 0-)
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      In the current context it's a show of weakness, not strength.  Republicans don't do weakness.  I find the whole issue fascinating and while I hate the proposal because it's so nakedly self-interested, I can look at it with some detachment because even naked self-interest sometimes makes a wrong assessment and that may well be the case here.

      Frankly I wouldn't have been surprised to see this proposal come from PA's Democrats, if they had (implausibly, given their incompetence) been in control of state government nowadays.

      The Rent Is Too Damn High Party feels that if you want to marry a shoe, I'll marry you. --Jimmy McMillan

      by Rich in PA on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 06:49:15 AM PDT

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    •  Heh, Dominic Pileggi asks (4+ / 0-)

      "Is there a better way to closely conform the electoral vote to the popular vote? I'm open to suggestions."

      I've got an idea, Dom.  Don't redraw the congressional districts so as to jam almost every Democratic voter into a few seats.  Otherwise Obama could win the state but take a  minority of the EV's due to packing in Democratic strongholds.  How is that a good match for the popular vote?

      Of course, even if the GOP did win the state under such a scheme Obama or another Democrat would certainly be spotted several EV's instead of none--another likely reason for Republican recalcitrance.

  •  MI-02 (1+ / 0-)
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    Michigan State Rep. and noted homophobe/Islamophobe Dave Agema is considering a primary challenge to Rep. Bill Huizenga.

    21, male, RI-01 (voting) IL-01 (college), working in MA-08 for the summer, hopeless Swingnut

    by sapelcovits on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 05:31:12 AM PDT

  •  MA-Sen: Emily's List has (8+ / 0-)

    endorsed Elizabeth Warren this morning.

    19, Chairman DKE Gay Caucus, male, Dem, (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09) Tammy Baldwin and Elizabeth Warren for Senate!

    by ndrwmls10 on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 05:31:44 AM PDT

  •  If it's true that Kucinich has 57% of Democrats, t (0+ / 0-)

    then I probably appropriated the wrong parts of Cleveland to the new 9th in my rough sketch. I had Sutton representing 20% of it. Of course, that has another huge implication-- that Sutton represents at least as many, if not more people in the new 16th as does Renacci.

    I'm thinking my option would actually have been better for the Republicans.

  •  Note on the Florida GOP primary poll (5+ / 0-)

    Perry leads Romney with every subgroup except AAs and age 65+ (seniors).

    •  Perry is Teflon coated right now... (3+ / 0-)

      It looks like he's picked up that "I'm going to support him no matter what the facts because he's a straight talker" vote that used to belong to Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin. It's going to be very tough for Romney to get traction with these people, for a variety of reasons.

      The thing of it is, for a lot of people on this site, this is a good development, because Perry is obviously easier to beat in the general election. For me personally, it's just depressing, because if the economy doesn't get better I can see Perry potentially winning the general election, which would be a disaster for our country and the world in general (I'd never vote for Romney, but he'd be so much better than Perry as a president).

      So for those rooting for Perry - I hope you know what you're doing. I worry he's a better politician then you're giving him credit for.

      •  if that happens Obama vs Perry=Reid vs Angle (0+ / 0-)

        which would be roughly a tie since NV is roughly 5 points more democratic then the nation as a whole

      •  I'd take Romney as President (0+ / 0-)

        if we could have at least 300 Democrats in the House at least as liberal as Gabrielle Giffords and at least 60 Democrats in the Senate at least as liberal as, say, Maria Cantwell.

        The problem with Romney is not that he's a lunatic or that he has ideas that are against everything we stand for, although the second notion is far more valid; it's that whatever good qualities might be beneath the surface of the Say Anything Guy he's becoming will be drowned out by the insanity of the Republicans in Congress.

  •  Q poll on VA. (0+ / 0-)

    Perry up in the primary

    Romney leads Obama by 2, while Perry is down by 2.

    Also for the sentate, it's Allen by 1, which is a reverse of Kaine by 1.

    DKE! “Music speaks what cannot be expressed, soothes the mind and gives it rest, heals the heart and makes it whole, flows from heaven to the soul.” anonymous

    by aggou on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 05:43:14 AM PDT

    •  Also for CT (2+ / 0-)
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      Gov Malloy's approval ratings are underwater, 41-48 (it was 38-44 in June), but voters approve of his handling of Irene 79-10.

      21, male, RI-01 (voting) IL-01 (college), working in MA-08 for the summer, hopeless Swingnut

      by sapelcovits on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 05:51:20 AM PDT

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    •  the local media declared Obama dead (0+ / 0-)

      I was listening to the radio this AM in Dc and they were saying that Obama had massive disapproval in Va and gave the impression he was in serious trouble in the state.
      The political guy said Va is a red state and Obama's 2008 win was a fluke.
      It was WTOP the all news station in DC. If Obama is so close my guess is a lot of Obama's disapproval is from democrats who will still vote for him.

      •  You have to remember though (0+ / 0-)

        that this is a pretty big change from what the last VA polls were showing. I don't think any of them had Romney up at all, and they for sure didn't have Perry as close as he is.

        Time will tell what happens in VA.

        DKE! “Music speaks what cannot be expressed, soothes the mind and gives it rest, heals the heart and makes it whole, flows from heaven to the soul.” anonymous

        by aggou on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 06:01:40 AM PDT

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      •  I say it's 60% and no less (1+ / 0-)
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        that Obama wins Virginia.  It's not a red state anymore and demographic and political changes in NOVA indicate that.

        'The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.' -Mohandas K. Gandhi

        by KingofSpades on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 06:12:52 AM PDT

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      •  Keep in mind... (3+ / 0-)

        WTOP is a right-wing station, owned by Bonneville, who are tied to the LDS Church. It's a pretty subtle bias compared with some media outlets, but it's definitely there. They broadcast on-air op-eds by Cal Thomas.

        But fundamentally their audience is going to skew conservative, since their main draw is "Traffic and Weather on the 8s." People who rely primarily or wholly on public transportation (which is a much bigger share of the population in/around DC than it is nationwide) to get to work never listen to it at all. It's essential listening for people who live way out in the suburbs where people drive long distances to work - which happens to describe most Republicans in this area.

        Obama's 2008 win wasn't a fluke. but That's not to see he has VA in the bag in 2012 or anything, but the days where the Republicans could count on carrying the state without having to fight for it are gone. 2008 may give some overly optimistic folks the wrong idea about how fast the trend away from being a red state is going, but Northern Virginia has grown and has really pushed things in a different direction.  

        Stuck Between Stations : Thoughts from a bottomless pool of useless information.

        by Answer Guy on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 06:18:56 AM PDT

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      •  The WAPO coverage wasn't much better (2+ / 0-)
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        It went on for several paragraphs about Obama's lowered approval rating before noting that he still runs about even with potential Republican opponents (ironically, better against the one now leading his party's field.)  Only then does it imply that maybe people in VA don't exactly <3 the GOP either.  

        As to the idea of Virginia being a red state, it certainly is no longer that although it isn't as blue as we'd like.  While Obama's 2008 victory there will require some effort to replicate (the GOP may unwittingly help) it can't be written off a just a "fluke".  Sometimes I think we need a new generation of political writers and analysts who don't sound as if they're permanently stuck in 1984.

  •  I'd bet on Kaptur (2+ / 0-)
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    “If you think I can be bought for five thousand dollars, I'm offended." Rick Perry. It takes a helleuva lot more.

    by Paleo on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 05:43:27 AM PDT

  •  NC-4 (2+ / 0-)
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    Roll Call on Miller v Price:

    So what might a primary look like?
    “Whenever Brad has run for anything, he has always run spirited grass-roots campaigns,” Eudy said. “I would expect that if there is a primary, it would be a hard-fought primary.”
    “But I expect David is better-known and more seasoned than Brad,” he added.
    Miller, 58, could campaign on being the more youthful, progressive candidate.
    “He’s seen as being genuine and real in a world where everyone else is manufactured,” said one Democratic consultant with knowledge of the state, noting Miller’s often spunky Facebook posts.
    “David and I are both seen as fairly progressive,” Miller said. “But because of the issues that I have been most known for, I’m probably seen as more progressive than David.”
    Although both Members’ voting records are quite similar, Miller will focus on financial reform and public health issues.
    Price, meanwhile, passionately discussed his work as the co-chairman of the House Democracy Partnership and his work on the House Appropriations Committee.
    •  I really don't care who wins, (0+ / 0-)

      but I guess I'm lean Miller. Maybe after some lawsuits, there'll be another seat for one of them to run for... but I'm not hopeful.

      •  It hasn't gotten preclearance yet right? (0+ / 0-)

        if Holder doesn't deny preclearance I think heads need to be rolling.

        21, male, RI-01 (voting) IL-01 (college), working in MA-08 for the summer, hopeless Swingnut

        by sapelcovits on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 07:27:57 AM PDT

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      •  Unless you get a completely court drawn map (0+ / 0-)

        there won't be two seats that both of them can win.

        I would love to know how a court would draw the entire NC map if it came to it.  My guess is that Shuler would be safe, then you would have Watt, Kissell/McIntyre, a Greensboro Dem, Butterfield, and either 1 safe seat for RTP or two lean Dem seats for Chapel Hill and Raleigh.

        So either 6 or 7 would be guaranteed under a court map, but even if the GOP map gets struck down I don't see a court drawing the whole thing.

  •  I will post my KY St. Senate map this evening. (0+ / 0-)

    I tried to screw over the LaRouche Democrat Perry Clark by having his district push more into downtown Louisville, making it more Dem and thus putting him more at risk of a primary.

    'The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.' -Mohandas K. Gandhi

    by KingofSpades on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 06:11:10 AM PDT

  •  NY-9 (0+ / 0-)

    Weprin needs to go away. Now.

    •  The mistake made here was the placeholder crap (6+ / 0-)

      They should have just gone after a candidate who either was planning on staying for a while, and I'm sure there would have been many interested or if they where so intent on this plan, recruited Elizabeth Holtzman who may have still had some goodwill there. Backroom deals usually do not work out well. In addition, why didn't an entire committee pick the nominee instead of just Joe Crowley????

      •  This is exactly (1+ / 0-)
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        how Crowley got his job in Congress years ago - handpicked by a cabal at the last minute after his predecessor withdraw,before anyone else had a realistic chance put themselves forward; he was coronated.

        •  Slight correction (0+ / 0-)

          Crowley was not handpicked "at the last minute;" rather he was handpicked AFTER the last minute.  The filing deadline had already passed when his predecessor, Tom Manton, announced his retirement.  Manton was party chairman in Queens at the time.  

          Another pathetic Congressman, Dan Lipinski of SW Chicago was first elected in a similar fashion.

      •  I agree Weprin turned out to be a dud. (0+ / 0-)

        And given that he lost it's hard for anyone to disagree.  After all picking anyone else at worst gives you the same result.

        But who else should we have run?

        The two names bandied about but who probably suffered from being too ambitious were Melinda Katz and Eric Gioia.  Gioia lived outside the district.  Way outside on the opposite side of Queens.  Katz unlike Weprin and Gioia lived inside the district.  Gioia and Katz have more dynamic personalities (which is not exactly a high compliment when being compared to David Weprin) though both like Weprin lost in 2009 citywide races.

        Katz hopefully would've done a better job of avoiding the Israel trap.  Weprin spent far too much time defending himself and debating an issue that at best was a push for him.

        Beyond that who else is left.  You have the white Brooklyn democrats who have all types of baggage ethical and otherwise.

        Peter Vallone Jr isn't exactly a barn burner.  His dad and Liz Holtzman are dinosaurs.

        I can think of others who would be great such as Liu or Avella who would either not be interested or would be impractical.

        As much as I want to attack Crowley and his comments deserve nothing but disdain and perhaps a leadership challenge from someone who has a higher threshold on what a "good day" entails... was there really any obvious choice that stood out as better at the time?

        My choice was Katz but who knows what you'd find if you started digging.  Can't say she gave me a lot of confidence when she made the rounds speaking at different clubs seeking their endorsement for Comptroller.   And those close to real estate developers always seem to have a knack for unexpected skeletons popping up.

      •  I wonder how much influence that had (0+ / 0-)

        This is purely speculative, but some voters who wanted to "send a message" on the economy, Israel, or whatever but didn't like the GOP or most of its policies perhaps figured they could have their cake and eat it too, so to speak, by electing a Republican placeholder who will be gone soon.

        Of course, if you generally don't favor the GOP that's also sort of cutting off your nose to spite your face.  Voting a Republican in even for a short time is not going to help a Democratic president improve the economy or anything else.

    •  We'll have to see whether Weprin... (0+ / 0-)

      ...makes another stab at coming in last place for City Comptroller/

  •  sponsor of CT NPR programming: (0+ / 0-)

    Vince & Linda Mcmahon Family Foundation Inc: Not exactly Bill & Melinda Gates, but certainly the first time heard on "liberal" media...

    CT-Sen: This is ridiculously sketchball. A "Republican source" tells local reporter Kevin Rennie he's seen an internal poll for Linda McMahon which shows her up 19 points over ex-Rep. Chris Shays in the GOP primary. That's it. No polling memo, no field dates, no pollster name — and of course, no general election numbers. Hey, if McMahon wants to spend heavily to kick Shays's ass and then spend even more heavily only to have her ass kicked (again), I'm all for it!
    Linda and Vince head the Vince and Linda McMahon Family Foundation,a  small foundation that ended calendar year 2008 with about $3.7 million in assets.  Its governance is short on outside input however, given a three-person board of Vince as President, Linda as Secretary/Treasurer, and WWE lawyer Jerry McDevitt as the non-family member of the governing body.  The cost of running the foundation is minimal, with total operating and administrative expenses of roughly $80,000 in contrast with $2.5 million in grantmaking in 2008.  One suspects that staff functions are performed by WWE staff as assigned by the McMahons.

    I am off my metas! Präsidentenelf-maßschach; Warning-Some Snark Above"Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03)

    by annieli on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 06:37:48 AM PDT

  •  Never understood the Kucinich hate (0+ / 0-)

    It makes no sense.  Kucinich has consistently supported and advocated for the most progressive policies.  If true progressives get trashed on a site like this...

    If looks could kill it would have been us instead of him.

    by jhannon on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 06:47:05 AM PDT

    •  I can't support someone who worked covertly... (5+ / 0-)

      ...with Qadaffi's government as recently as July.  It's just a disqualifier to me.

      The Rent Is Too Damn High Party feels that if you want to marry a shoe, I'll marry you. --Jimmy McMillan

      by Rich in PA on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 06:50:48 AM PDT

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      •  He is a net liability (7+ / 0-)

        Lots of protest votes. He is fodder for blanket attack ads nationally. He has become a living breathing caricature of liberals. He worked with Qadaffi. He just needs to go away.

      •  with Buchanan being a contributor on MSNBC (0+ / 0-)

        maybe Kucinich could become a contributor on Fox News.

      •  That really amazes me (0+ / 0-)

        Kucinich is one of the most ardently anti-war members of Congress.  He was trying, very publicly, to get Congress to stop support for air strikes, a U.S. military action that was taken without any Congressional action.  As part of that effort, he tried to find info on the Libyan Transitional National Council that could potentially cut through the justification for the military action.  We have many examples of how support for military action by the U.S. is justified by uninformed or deliberately misleading talk about how great the regime opponents are--see Afghanistan and Iraq, or Vietnam and the Contras in Nicaragua.  

        Kucinich was not "pro-Qaddafi."  He was doing what Democrats should have done prior to the invasion of Iraq.  He may be wrong about Libya, but to say THAT'S a disqualifier but voting for the invasion of Iraq, a bullshit exercise that killed hundreds of thousand, is not seems actually dangerous to me.

        If looks could kill it would have been us instead of him.

        by jhannon on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 07:05:45 AM PDT

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        •  I don't think he was pro-Qadaffi (5+ / 0-)

          He just had something that was so very important to him that he would deal with an absolutely irredeemable tyranny on its last legs, to dig up dirt on a liberation movement.  Not because he has anything against that movement, but because he opposed (reasonably, even!) our intervention on its behalf.  That's just contemptible, in my opinion: we have the examples of many decent people who opposed our intervention the right way, by making it about our Constitution and our overall role in the world.  Instead, Kucinich went to the Libyan secret police.

          The Rent Is Too Damn High Party feels that if you want to marry a shoe, I'll marry you. --Jimmy McMillan

          by Rich in PA on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 07:26:18 AM PDT

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    •  He's an opportunist (6+ / 0-)

      And has done very little of substance. Most of what he says is just talk.

      25, Male, CA-24, DK Elections Black Caucus Chair.

      by DrPhillips on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 07:07:34 AM PDT

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    •  Do you see Barbara Lee getting trashed? (7+ / 0-)

      Jim McDermott?  Tammy Baldwin?  Donna Edwards?  Jan Schakowsky?  Judy Chu?  Lynn Woolsey?  Bob Filner?  No.  Then it probably isn't about trashing "true progressives".  What it is about is Kucinich's abilities and impact as a politician.  Some people criticize Maxine Waters or Charlie Rangel or Pete Stark for saying impolitic things and/or having ethics controversies, but that means it's not about their ideology.  Also, not everyone on DKE agrees with these positions, since we're not a policy site.

      26, Dem, Dude seeing a dude, CT-04(originally), PA-02/NY-12(now)

      by Xenocrypt on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 07:38:35 AM PDT

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    •  I don't mind him in Congress... (0+ / 0-)

      ...even if he is too far out in left field for my liking.  It's always useful to have a few troublemakers to keep the others honest.  But against a solid effective Congresswoman like Marcy Kaptur?  I cannot think of one thing that recommends him over her.

      Plus with Kucinich always seeking the national media limelight and his vanity runs for President he is exactly the type of Democrat who could blow his own re-election in what should be a safe district.

      •  i've got one thing (1+ / 0-)
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        he's pro-choice.

        but that's not enough to overcome the other baggage

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        by jncca on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 11:51:19 AM PDT

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  •  Sorry Dave, but Assembly wasn't 6-6 (1+ / 0-)
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    It was 5 for 6.  Unless you think that Rafael Espinal, endorsed by the Conservative Party for his pro-life and anti-marriage equality stands, is actually a Democrat.  Jesus Gonzalez was the progressive choice in the race and unfortunately Boss Vito beat us on that one.

    Fact are stubborn things. -John Adams

    by circlesnshadows on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 06:52:31 AM PDT

    •  He was endorsed by the Democrats first (3+ / 0-)
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      The Conservatives latched on later. he is a Democrat, but not a very liberal one.

      •  It's irrelevant (0+ / 0-)

        He was endorsed by the local Brooklyn machine because of loyalty to the guys in control.  And frankly we shouldn't tolerate conservadems coming out of any part of Brooklyn.  I maintain that his victory was NOT a victory for "us", and it was Gonzalez who represented the base that this website is a part of.

        Fact are stubborn things. -John Adams

        by circlesnshadows on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 09:02:51 AM PDT

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        •  Brooklyn is not Manhattan (1+ / 0-)
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          Just a heads up. The borough is a lot more conservative than the city as a whole. So unless you want to see a solid chunk of the city with Turners in all of the offices, you need to have candidates that match the electorate.

          •  If Dierdre Towns hadn't been on the ballot (0+ / 0-)

            and gotten 22% (?) of the vote, I think Gonzalez might have won.

            23, Solid Liberal Democrat (-4.75, -4.51), DKE Gay Caucus Majority Leader, IN-02; Swingnut

            by HoosierD42 on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 10:42:16 AM PDT

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          •  Heh, I live in Brooklyn (0+ / 0-)

            So please don't lecture me about what the borough can and cannot abide.  This AD isn't geographically close or ethnically similar to NY-9 in the slightest.  And there has been no proof in any elections that anti-choice and anti-equality plays well among hispanic votes in Brooklyn.  Not to mention almost every other hispanic elected in this area voted FOR marriage equality.

            Espinal is a hack, plain and simple.  It just happened to be that he was such a hack that he touted his personal, religious convictions against marriage equality and choice to get the endorsement of the Conservative Party, and then denied these positions in his interview with the Working Families Party.

            Fact are stubborn things. -John Adams

            by circlesnshadows on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 12:54:31 PM PDT

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    •  How can you be so negative (4+ / 0-)

      about a candidate who got such glowing reviews from the Prime Time News?

      21, male, RI-01 (voting) IL-01 (college), working in MA-08 for the summer, hopeless Swingnut

      by sapelcovits on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 07:29:31 AM PDT

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  •  NY-09 (1+ / 0-)
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    You know, I think Brooklyn and Queens Democrats are pretty much where Louisiana Democrats were 10-15 years ago (and still are, I suspect): so discredited that people will vote Republican just to express their fed-upness.  The thing is, Mike Foster and Bobby Jindal could turn conjunctural victories (riding the revulsion wave) into permanent majorities because the state's demographics were in their favor--they just needed a precipitant.  Even NY-09 isn't really solid for Republicans demographically, so while they won on Tuesday I don't see a long-term crisis for Democrats, like I don't see one with Scott Brown's seat.  Except, of course, if they double down on venality and careerism, and the quote suggests that's a big possibility.

    The Rent Is Too Damn High Party feels that if you want to marry a shoe, I'll marry you. --Jimmy McMillan

    by Rich in PA on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 06:54:39 AM PDT

  •  That pretty much says it all (4+ / 0-)

    Regardless of any pushback, and regardless of any "success" the Republican ideas have, what the party is doing in Pennsylvania, matched with what they are doing in Nebraska, should tell any (rare) thinking American what Republicans are interested in.

    There is no principle involved here.  There are no ideas or ideology.

    The ONLY thing that drives Republicans is WINNING.  The only thing they are interested in is POWER.

    This has been clear for years, what with McConnell's quote on the goal of the party, their efforts to prevent voting and destroy unions, and their generally ignoring that democracy thingee.

    It can't get more clear.  I'm waiting for the connection to be pointed out be some Democrat or media talking head.

    Not holding my breath.

    "... there is no humane way to rule people against their will." Naomi Klein, The Shock Doctrine

    by Noziglia on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 07:11:12 AM PDT

  •  Who is the "Republican Source" in CT? (1+ / 0-)
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    That what Shays wants to kno--

    Good Lord, that's his music!

  •  Buehler? Buehler? (0+ / 0-)

    I changed by not changing at all, small town predicts my fate, perhaps that's what no one wants to see. -6.38, -4.15

    by James Allen on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 07:34:32 AM PDT

  •  WI-SEN (8+ / 0-)

    Path clears for Baldwin as Kind decides not to run:

  •  WI-gov (1+ / 0-)
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    I wonder what thy are looking for, specifically...

  •  MT-statewides: (4+ / 0-)
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    Odysseus, Skaje, KingofSpades, jncca

    MT State Rep. Derek Skees (R-Whitefish) runs for State Auditor. He's a nullification supporter and a quite radical tea partier. Narrowly won last year against a tainted Democratic candidate-- not tainted at the time of the election, though he wasn't a good candidate, but he was arrested for domestic abuse in January.

    I don't think he can beat wonderful Democratic incumbent Monica Lindeen. Too radical. The Flathead breeds nuts of a sort that's different from usual Montana conservatism-- neonazis, apocalypse nuts, and such.

  •  Baltimore Mayoral... (0+ / 0-)

    Here I thought Tom Carcetti was still mayor (ahem "The Wire" reference)

  •  How do you feel about this comparison? (0+ / 0-)

    Robert Reich = Elizabeth Warren

    I don't think it's a good comparison at all, but someone I follow (unfortunately) on Twitter thinks it's the perfect comparison.

    19, Chairman DKE Gay Caucus, male, Dem, (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09) Tammy Baldwin and Elizabeth Warren for Senate!

    by ndrwmls10 on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 08:06:09 AM PDT

    •  eh (5+ / 0-)

      Reich faced a much tougher primary field than Warren's, and was an underfunded outsider. There's not really an insider candidate this time around, and Warren shouldn't have much trouble raising money.

      Also, Warren isn't an abnormally short man. As much as it sucks, that cut hard against Reich.

    •  I don't think it's a valid one (1+ / 0-)
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      Both are policy types, but Warren has spent less time in government and is stepping into a primary field that is undefined.

      25, Male, CA-24, DK Elections Black Caucus Chair.

      by DrPhillips on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 08:38:26 AM PDT

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    •  Reich lacked charisma, funding (1+ / 0-)
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      and Pataki was pretty well-liked then.

      'The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.' -Mohandas K. Gandhi

      by KingofSpades on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 08:40:14 AM PDT

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    •  Nope, bad comparison (2+ / 0-)
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      From what I've seen of Warren, she is a much better politician than Reich. I'm actually pretty hopeful about her chances.

    •  Doesn't Bother Me (1+ / 0-)
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      It's actually pretty adept comparison. Which on the surface is worrisome....but the state has changed a lot in the decade since Reich's unsuccessful campaign.

      As far as making it out of the Dem primary, in many ways Reich's campaign was a model for Deval Patrick's successful one four years later. He started with nearly the same base of support Reich had and many of the same negatives. The example of uninspiring Beacon Hill stalwart Shannon O'Brien getting the nomination then and losing badly to a Republican (Romney, in that case) helped Patrick's case. That should make it easier for Warren to defeat an O'Brien-type candidate should one make a run for the office.

      2002 was something of a Republican year, so I don't think Reich would have beaten Romney either, but probably would have improved Dem base turnout a little bit, which might have helped some down ballot.

      In a General Election, Warren would have something Reich wouldn't have had in 2002 - Presidential election turnout. The state's Black and Hispanic communities are going to turn out more than usual (maybe not at '08 levels, but still more than normal certainly) for Obama. If Perry or Bachmann is the GOP nominee they will be a major drag on Scott Brown's numbers.

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      by Answer Guy on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 09:01:45 AM PDT

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    •  I'll admit it was my first thought... (0+ / 0-)

      ...when her name was first mentioned.  Obviously different people and circumstances.  But the comparison is a good reminder that while we on the outside are looking at it on the realm of ideas and the grand landscape of national politics it is a local race in a state where local Democrats are notorious for being petty, self-interested, and forming grand circular fire squads.

      We have yet to see how well she'll fight for the nomination and how well she can massage the massive egos of the prickly personalities of the local pols she'll have to navigate.

  •  Is OH-9th the longest CD in the country? (0+ / 0-)

    Excluding the one-district states, OH-9 sure looks like it's about the worst gerrymandering every on record. The district actually skips over some parts of the coastline and has five discontiguous sections to it. I'm really wondering how this can possibly pass civil rights review, much less the court of common sense. Cleveland and Toledo are 120 miles apart!

    Some people are intolerant, and I CAN'T STAND people like that. -- Tom Lehrer

    by TheCrank on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 11:32:05 AM PDT

    •  Sadly (1+ / 0-)
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      absurd gerrymanders are not illegal on their face (see the current FL-22, although this is probably unconstitutional in the face of Florida's Fair Districts Amendment). And it doesn't violate the VRA, although if Fudge's new district is considered contorted enough to be a racial gerrymander, it might be problematic. Still, I unfortunately don't see that happening. (Then again I'm not really an expert.)

      21, male, RI-01 (voting) IL-01 (college), working in MA-08 for the summer, hopeless Swingnut

      by sapelcovits on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 11:40:12 AM PDT

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    •  although it is not gerrymandered (0+ / 0-)

      If, as some people expect, MN-7 takes in the SW counties of the state from the first, the fastest way to drive across the district would involved two countries, 3 states, and over 12 hours. And that is in a state with 8 districts. I am not sure that can be said of any other district in the country.

    •  NC-12 (1+ / 0-)
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      Has got to be at least as long, and twice as ugly.

      •  Probably not the current NC-12 (0+ / 0-)

        or even necessarily the proposed remap, but its original 1990s iteration, which stretched all the way from Durham to Gastonia, would certainly qualify.  In some places I-85 was the only thing holding it together, and only under the touch-point standard did it qualify as contiguous.

        The same could be said of several other districts drawn in the early 1990s under the VRA rules of the time (as adjudicated by the Bush I Justice Department), until the courts put limits on that practice.

    •  Hawaii 2 (1+ / 0-)
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      James Allen 331 miles long, roughly the same shape, and has 8 discontiguous segments: Niihau, Kauai, Oahu, Molokai, Lanai, Maui, Kahoolawe, and the big island.

      SSP poster. 42, CA-5, -0.25/-3.90

      by sacman701 on Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 01:46:53 PM PDT

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