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As many of have known for a long time the Koch brothers are evil people who run an empire without values or morals other then seeking the Almighty Dollar.  Finally a major media outlet has begun a full expose of their bribery, polluting, criminal and treasonous ways.  Read on...

This article by Bloomberg says it all better then I could ever hope to improve upon.  It deserves to be read in full on it's own.

My only question is: If the Kochs and their U.S lawyers, as claimed in the article, deliberately and methodically conspired with senior management to trade with Iran after it was outlawed is that treason?

6:56 PM PT: Looks like the dogs are piling on... Koch's try to re segregate schools http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

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  •  No, that's not treason. Scummy, but not treason. (4+ / 1-)
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    ScienceMom, PatriciaVa, citydem, luckylizard
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  •  But the bribery is illegal (10+ / 0-)

    bribing foreign officials is against the law.

    But nothing will happen because they are above the law.

    These men are dangerous and out to control the country- if not the world.

    #OccupyWallStreet is their nemesis.

    Get the word to them.

    Growing old is inevitable...Growing up is purely optional

    by grannycarol on Sun Oct 02, 2011 at 04:58:54 PM PDT

    •  "nothing will happen" = defeatist meme. (6+ / 0-)

      Nothing will happen if we sit on our hands, bounce on our thumbs, and spend our time making cynical remarks rather than organizing and making noise and demanding that these bastards be brought to justice.

      Same with the banksters.  And cries of outrage on blogs are no substitute for a constant deluge of email to elected officials.  

      Pre-emptive declarations of defeat and surrender only help the enemy.  

      "Minus one vote for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

      by G2geek on Sun Oct 02, 2011 at 05:20:15 PM PDT

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      •  The reach of the Koch funded front groups (4+ / 0-)
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        are far and wide.  From funding the Baggers to the network of ALEC related think tanks in the States Policy Network these guys are destroying our democracy.  And now trading with Iran!

        AnnetteK had the story and some info on the prepublictiy push from last week here http://www.dailykos.com/...  It never made the rec list, hope it gets rescued.

        Politicalgates has been discussing it since last night and there are lots of good links for info on the Koch activities in the many pages of the thread.    http://www.dailykos.com/...

        You know this story is big with the VP of American for Prosperity shows up at Politicalgates for "damage control".  It time to expose the whole Kochtopus.  They are the poster boys for Crony Capitalism and every American needs to understand that.

        •  Tactic: imprecatory prayer. (2+ / 0-)
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          Spiritual warfare.

          Imprecatory prayer is basically praying for God to strike someone dead and send them to hell.

          It doesn't matter if WE believe it "works," all that matters is the response it gets from the Koches and their supporters.

          Like this:

          A bunch of leftie publications issue imprecatory prayers calling for God to strike dead the Koches and send them to hell.  These have to be written according to a very specific formula for them to be taken seriously by religious righties.  (I know a bit about this from having studied it for an intel project a couple of years ago.)

          The imprecatory prayers are circulated far and wide.

          Then what happens is:

          Either a) Koch says he doesn't believe in that stuff, which alienates his followers on the religious right, or b) he says he does believe in that stuff, and then he and his followers have to engage in a whole bunch of counter-prayer and suchlike to try to undo it!  

          We can tie them down easily with this kind of spiritual warfare, and force them to spend time dealing with it.  The time they spend on this is time they can't spend doing something else.  The "bang for buck" ratio is favorable, such that the time WE spend on it is minimal compared to the time that THEY (assuming they or their supporters are True Believers) spend trying to undo it.  

          And the best part is, it's all 100% legal.  

          "Minus one vote for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

          by G2geek on Sun Oct 02, 2011 at 09:10:29 PM PDT

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          •  There is a name for this, who knew :-D -thanks G2. (0+ / 0-)
            •  heck yeah, and we should do it. (2+ / 0-)
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              It's even easier for agnostics and atheists, who can go through the motions and write out the imprecatory prayers with no "spiritual overhead costs" to themselves and no need to devote any further time to it than writing out the stuff.  

              Low cost to us.

              High cost to the Koches and their Kochroaches.

              What's not to like, eh?:-)

              "Minus one vote for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

              by G2geek on Sun Oct 02, 2011 at 11:42:22 PM PDT

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      •  Which is why I said (1+ / 0-)
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        Get this to #OccupyWallStreet.

        The more the people know- the louder the outrage, the more difficult to 'be above the law'.

        I wasn't being defeatist.  I was being factual.

        And besides e-mails, all these demonstrations will be in vain if it doesn't pan out to the ballot box next November.

        It's time for elected officials to weigh in.

        Growing old is inevitable...Growing up is purely optional

        by grannycarol on Sun Oct 02, 2011 at 09:48:02 PM PDT

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  •  Being exposed won't deter them. (4+ / 0-)
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    They already own most of the politicians in America, including Democrats.  They're on the brink of owning the US  lock, stock, and barrel.


    The religious fanatics didn't buy the republican party because it was virtuous, they bought it because it was for sale

    by nupstateny on Sun Oct 02, 2011 at 05:04:37 PM PDT

  •  Gist of Bloomberg note... (13+ / 0-)
    Koch Brothers Flout Law Getting Richer With Secret Iran Sales

    By Asjylyn Loder and David Evans - Oct 2, 2011 5:00 PM CT

    Bloomberg Markets Magazine

    In May 2008, a unit of Koch Industries Inc., one of the world’s largest privately held companies, sent Ludmila Egorova-Farines, its newly hired compliance officer and ethics manager, to investigate the management of a subsidiary in Arles in southern France. In less than a week, she discovered that the company had paid bribes to win contracts.

    “I uncovered the practices within a few days,” Egorova- Farines says. “They were not hidden at all.”

    She immediately notified her supervisors in the U.S. A week later, Wichita, Kansas-based Koch Industries dispatched an investigative team to look into her findings, Bloomberg Markets magazine reports in its November issue.

    .......

    Egorova-Farines wasn’t rewarded for bringing the illicit payments to the company’s attention. Her superiors removed her from the inquiry in August 2008 and fired her in June 2009, calling her incompetent, even after Koch’s investigators substantiated her findings. She sued Koch-Glitsch in France for wrongful termination.

    Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project. http://www1.hamiltonproject.org/es/hamilton/hamilton_hp.htm

    by PatriciaVa on Sun Oct 02, 2011 at 05:05:52 PM PDT

  •  Not to diary pimp, (5+ / 0-)

    just trying to get this out there. Please tweet and FB it if you do that sort of stuff.

    I diaried this, it is big, this story.

    Politicalgates did a huge story today and I diaried it, the fun part on Politicalgates was when they got loads of hits from the Koch Industries.

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

  •  Occupy Koch? nt (1+ / 0-)
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    "If this Studebaker had anymore Atomic Space-Age Style, you'd have to be an astronaut with a geiger counter!"

    by Stude Dude on Sun Oct 02, 2011 at 05:27:02 PM PDT

  •  In a sane world, (0+ / 0-)

    they would be prosecuted until the Rapture, perhaps not for treason, but for a zillion other things.  In the real world, they'll skate.  Hell, they will be lauded by some as ingenious and enterprising.  After all, in a real free market, there would be no such things as economic sanctions, right?  Grrrrrr.....

    -7.62, -7.28 "Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams die, life is a broken winged bird that cannot fly." -Langston Hughes

    by luckylizard on Sun Oct 02, 2011 at 06:08:39 PM PDT

  •  Trading with Iran is better than bombing Iran (0+ / 0-)

    The Koch Bros. are fascists-really, but trading with Iran is the least of their sins. The oil industry pressured Eisenhower* and Churchill to remove the democratically elected PM of Iran, Mohammed Mosadegh, in 1953. Maybe it's a good sign that the Koch Bros. want to trade with rather than conquer Iran.

    *Truman had refused to be part of the plot.

    Cities are good for the environment

    by citydem on Sun Oct 02, 2011 at 06:09:10 PM PDT

  •  nice catch (3+ / 0-)
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    And what I find particularly instructive about this story is the source. Bloomberg isn't quite the Wall Street Journal, nor is it The Nation.

    For a business-oriented, presumably small-c-non-crazy conservative news organization to frontpage this says to me that even the media is noticing the scum.

    Yesterday's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why. -- Hunter S. Thompson

    by Mnemosyne on Sun Oct 02, 2011 at 07:23:50 PM PDT

    •  A lot of investors are sick of the casino too (2+ / 0-)
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      Gone are the days when you could research and find a good company with good products that you pick to grow.  Invest some saving in.  Now it is all casino games and the SEC was gutted under Bush so management can lie to investors and nobody does anything about it.

  •  Probably not treason, but RICO. (0+ / 0-)

    At what point do the Koch Kriminal Enterprise reach the level of a RICO indictment?

    I dunno. Good question for AG Holder, though...

    If you are still playing for Team Republican and want to have any honor whatsoever, you need to leave the Republican Party now, apologize to America, and work to remove it from our political system. --Brad DeLong

    by radabush on Sun Oct 02, 2011 at 10:42:53 PM PDT

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