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Oh Mitt. Is there no position you won't run from?

Once upon a time, Mitt Romney supported women's reproductive rights:

"I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. [...] I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years, that we should sustain and support it and I sustain and support that law and the right of the woman to make that choice. [...] And you will not see me wavering on that."

But that was waaaaaaaay back when he was running for office in 1994. And you can't expect a politician who promises not to waver to actually, you know, not waver. Which is why, when you fast forward to October 2011, it makes perfect sense that he would say, in his Awkward-a-thon with Mike Huckabee:

HUCKABEE: Would you have supported a constitutional amendment that would have established the definition of life at conception?

ROMNEY: Absolutely.

Yeah. Totally not inconsistent to promise to "sustain and support that law and the right of the woman to make that choice" and then voice his support for a constitutional amendment that would strip women of that choice.

But now that Mississippi's attempt to pass a constitutional amendment that would have established the definition of life at conception—you know, that amendment Mitt would "absolutely" support—well, Team Mitt is none too happy that anyone is pointing that out:

Mitt Romney's campaign, seeking to nip a potent general election attack in the bud, says he's being falsely characterized as supporting a proposed amendment to define a fertilized egg as a "person" that was badly defeated in Mississippi yesterday. [...]

Romney's current position? He supports, per spokeswoman Gail Gitcho, "a Human Life Amendment that overturns Roe vs. Wade and sends the issue back to the states" -- which sounds like something short of a federal abortion ban.

"Mitt Romney is pro-life, and as he has said previously, he is supportive of efforts to ensure recognition that life begins at conception. He believes these matters should be left up to states to decide," she said.

But that's funny. Because that's not what he said to Huckabee last month. In case your memory is even shorter than Mitt's, here's what he said:

HUCKABEE: Would you have supported a constitutional amendment that would have established the definition of life at conception?

ROMNEY: Absolutely.

No mention of Roe v. Wade. No mention of letting the states decide anything. Just a full-throated endorsement of a constitutional amendment defining life. Which is exactly what the failed Personhood Amendment tried to do.

So Mitt was committed to supporting a woman's right to choose. Until he flipped to being "absolutely" supportive of a hypothetical constitutional amendment to define when life begins. Until he flipped to being supportive of a constitutional amendment to overturn Roe v. Wade, but not necessarily committed—and not necessarily not committed—to supporting a constitutional amendment to define when life begins.

Flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop. The one thing we know Mitt is "absolutely" committed to is refusing to commit to anything.

Originally posted to Kaili Joy Gray on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 12:26 PM PST.

Also republished by Pro Choice, Abortion, and Daily Kos.

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  •  enjoy (16+ / 0-)

    This comment may not be reproduced or excerpted on other sites without my express written permission.

    by psilocynic on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 12:29:54 PM PST

  •  Oh man (13+ / 0-)

    I think I threw out my back just watching him contort.

    His politics are like the weather. If you don't like his position on a topic, just wait 5 minutes because it will be changing soon enough.

  •  Well, he flip-flops within (12+ / 0-)

    his own campaign statement:

    Mitt Romney's campaign.  .  .  says he's being falsely characterized as supporting a proposed amendment to define a fertilized egg as a "person" that was badly defeated in Mississippi yesterday


    "Mitt Romney is pro-life.  .  . he is supportive of efforts to ensure recognition that life begins at conception. He believes these matters should be left up to states to decide," she said.

    The state of Mississippi tried to do exactly that.  So he must have been "supportive of efforts" there.

    Maybe he was "supportive of" it, without "supporting" it.

    "When I feed the poor, they call me a saint, but when I ask why the poor are hungry, they call me a communist." Dom Helder Camara

    by RickinStLouis on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 12:36:51 PM PST

    •  Mitt can't help himself. (5+ / 0-)

      It must be in his genes.  The man cannot even pretend to believe in anything.  He is 100% pure pander.

      •  I'm a sucker for campaign narratives, (0+ / 0-)

        but in this case it really is genetic.  Jack Germond, who used to be on the McLaughlin group, was quoted in Nixonland maybe as saying he had a button inserted to his typewriter (today we'd call it a macro) saying "Governor Romney later clarified that"

        George Romney is of course most famous for claiming that he had been brainwashed into supporting the Vietnam war.  

        "This world demands the qualities of youth: not a time of life but a state of mind[.]" -- Robert F. Kennedy

        by Loge on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:01:42 PM PST

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        •  George Romney was brainwashed. (0+ / 0-)

          So was I, actually, but my excuse is that I was 13 years old.    I was certain that President Johnson was a great man and our government was patriotic and virtuous.  In some ways those things are true, but not in all ways.

          I recall Tip O'Neill saying that he supported the war for as long as he did because he spoke only to the White House and the Pentagon.  It wasn't until late in the war, talking to veterans, that he realized he had been wrong.  He was one short step away from saying he had been brainwashed.  I can't condemn George for saying it.

    •  He supported it pure and chaste from afar (4+ / 0-)
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      Without getting his hands dirty. It's the plutocrat way.

      In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

      by blue aardvark on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:40:30 PM PST

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  •  Please tell me (6+ / 0-)

    that interview with Huck is on video somewhere.  That will make an awesome general election ad.

  •  Mitt du jour... (5+ / 0-) matter what you order, it's always re-tread left-overs...

    Cheers, K...

  •  Slightly OT... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...Progress Michigan is tweeting that Mitt has cancelled his participation in tonight's debate at Oakland U.  They didn't have any details yet, and I haven't found any either.  Has anyone heard what's up?

  •  He'll lose women and indies with his position(s) (5+ / 0-)

    Corporations are people but not a fertilized egg isn't a winning message down South.

    He's taken morally reprehensible positions that are going to be hard to defend in a general campaign. Too bad his fellow Republican challengers can't seem to make any headway. Perhaps Santorum will go after him tonight?

    "There is nothing more dreadful than the habit of doubt. Doubt separates people. It is a poison that disintegrates friendships and breaks up pleasant relations. It is a thorn that irritates and hurts; it is a sword that kills.".. Buddha

    by sebastianguy99 on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:06:58 PM PST

    •  I wish (0+ / 0-)

      15 years old and a proud progressive and Phillies phan.

      by vidanto on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:59:07 PM PST

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    •  is that in fact his position? (0+ / 0-)

      at least on the second part?

      Santorum seems well poised to go after Cain, but it turns out he gave Jerry Sandusky an "Angels of Adoption" award.  Not that Santorum had anything to do with the Penn St. situation besides going there to be educated (they've since tightened up the entrance requirements) but it's still embarrassing.

      "This world demands the qualities of youth: not a time of life but a state of mind[.]" -- Robert F. Kennedy

      by Loge on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:04:11 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  flip - flop (5+ / 0-)

    can someone please ask Mitt if he wants to be president, just so next month I can hear him say he doesn't want to be president?

    The Texas Miracle is that, after years of Perry, we don't look like a Tent Revival Thunderdome preaching to the uninsured. Oh, wait...

    by papa monzano on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:33:29 PM PST

  •  "Say Anything" Mitt. (5+ / 0-)

    All politicians do this to some degree, but he is setting a new bar.

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:33:49 PM PST

  •  Mitt might want to consider breaking his vows for (1+ / 0-)
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    blue aardvark

    a totally healthy dose of chocolate.

  •  Limbaugh the Hut has trained Mittens well! (4+ / 0-)
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    Always be for everything and against everything simultaneously.  That way, you can always point to a quote from the past that will support you in any given situation.

  •  Michele Bachmann (3+ / 0-)
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    No one seems to mention her at all - it's like she no longer exists.

    I really wanna know how she's going to top her Sgt. Pepper impersonation from last time!

  •  I feel like I'm riding the Mad Hatter (3+ / 0-)

    tea cups at Disneyland.  Complete with vertigo.

    The most violent element in society is ignorance.

    by Mr MadAsHell on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:37:12 PM PST

    •  Actually, I'd use another British allusion (1+ / 0-)
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      Mr MadAsHell

      It's like cricket:  Mitt hits the soft shiny ball pitch as far as it will go, and then runs back and forth between extremes till somebody throws the ball back in.

      Real plastic here; none of that new synthetic stuff made from chicken feathers. By the morning of 9/12/2001 the people of NYC had won the War on Terror.

      by triplepoint on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:51:16 PM PST

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    •  Riding the Wild Teacup: (0+ / 0-)

      Crazy rides set you up for a deep purge (usually, whether you like it or not!)  We have real problems in this country -- but its usually not shown in the dog and pony show propaganda the networks put forward for ratings.  

      They're concerned with keeping us busy with nonsense, so we don't take our power back, by changing the laws of the land to what's sensible.  The want us mesmerized with their "show politics," their party soap operas, their celebrities, and whatever other shiny lure they can bait you with.

      But you don't have to watch or listen to them.  Focus on what's the problem ... where was it working; what laws kept everything balanced; what laws were passed that broke it down, or network of laws; and work to restore the good laws.  Form petitions at  Network with others.  But get active.

      The worst thing you can do is nothing ... turning on the TV and watching the political circus is deadly.  The great thing about taking action is, it'll clear the vertigo out of you quick.

  •  Number one sign a conservative position is extreme (8+ / 0-)

    A majority of voters in Mississippi reject it.

    27, white male, TX-26 (current), TN-07 (originally), liberal-leaning independent

    by TDDVandy on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:37:47 PM PST

  •  Mitt is going to come out with a new NASA (4+ / 0-)

    budget proposal. He's going to flip-flop on the law of gravity and expect satellites to simply float into the air at his convenience.

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

    by blue aardvark on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:38:24 PM PST

  •  Me thinks (0+ / 0-)

    Romney should avoid para-sailing for a year or so.

    Once upon a time, this site was useful.

    by kitebro on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:38:51 PM PST

  •  Mitt Romney at his best----not. (3+ / 0-)

    Corporations aren't people; they're Republicans. Rev. Al Sharpton

    by HappyinNM on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:39:16 PM PST

  •  The man goes through more versions than Doctor Who (6+ / 0-)

    I think he changes personality five times a day.

  •  Actually, he commits to EVERYTHING. (1+ / 0-)
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  •  It's as if Willard is unaware... (8+ / 0-)

    that we live in an age where things politicians say get recorded by those newfangled cameras and are then widely disseminated to the public.

    I'm sure back in the day a presidential candidate could say one thing in Ohio and something entirely different in South Carolina and get away with it.

    Those days no longer exist, Mitt.

    I eagerly await the day Mitt Romney denies his own existence.

    How about I believe in the unlucky ones?

    by BenderRodriguez on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:40:41 PM PST

  •  He'll change his mind again once he is nominated. (3+ / 0-)
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    "Don't dream it, be it" - Brad, Janet and Frank

    by captainlaser on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:41:13 PM PST

  •  Mitt As Poster Child (0+ / 0-)

    I hope all his flip flopping becomes a chronicle of how far this country has come in its understanding of the basic rights of women in the whole area of sexuality.

    "...a big percentage of the Republicans that were elected this time came here to do zero, and that's what they've done." Ray LaHood, Republican Transportation Secretary in Obama's administration.

    by wild hair on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:41:57 PM PST

  •  This election looks more and more.... (1+ / 0-)
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    like 2004 all over again.

    "We believe that the people are the source of all governmental power; that the authority of the people is to be extended, not restricted."-Barbara Jordan

    by sancerre2001 on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:43:13 PM PST

  •  Romney on OHIO issue -2, two, three... (0+ / 0-)

    Governor Kasich should have handled the budget issue differently instead of gutting colllective bargaining...that's what I meant..

    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis, 1935 --Talk of foresight--

    by tuma on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:46:17 PM PST

  •  I live in Memphis (3+ / 0-)
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    right across the line from MS. I have asked and women have told me that they were afraid that they would not have access to birth control. Period. This was the big thing.I talked to about 25 women so is ancedotal. The only way you could go to Mississippi and change the people is if you tried.When was the last time a presidential candidate came to MS,TN? HELP

  •  I hope Gary Trudeau would portray him as a (1+ / 0-)
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    dieing fish, flopping and gasping for air.  He's already used the waffle metaphor for Clinton, so he'd have to go all-in on the nasty, stinky image for Mittens.  And no, mittens would not be appropriate because they're soft, fuzzy and useful, unlike Mitt Romney.  No, a dieing flopping fish, perhaps a trash fish, would be the best image for Mitt.

    What would be best, though, would be to not have Trudeau have to make the decision.

  •  Someone needs to Photoshop (3+ / 0-)
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    Romney's face onto these:


    Now to try to end the wars we ask our gay and straight soldiers to fight. -- Chris Hayes (modified)

    by Cali Scribe on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:52:01 PM PST

    •  Shodding the feet of the Gospel of peace: (0+ / 0-)

      One great thing about flip-flops (and there are so many, it's hard to speak of just one) --  they leave room for your toes to grow and your feet to breathe; no hot, deformed, fungi feet inhabit the lowly flip-flop.

      And they're so comfortable.  Full of EVA, they buffer the hard shock of pavement on your bones -- and they're affordable.

      A person in the public spotlight may have to go through some uncomfortable soul-searching.  It may make the person seem "soft" on issues ... fluid, like water (a symbol of the spirit).  The important thing is to tune out the public, and emerge prepared to act on what's right.

      Water is over 75% of both the planet's surface and the human body's composition.  Funny isn't it, how matched we are?  Yet no one, after getting hit by a tsunami or  cyclone, would consider water weak or wishy-washy.

      The human spirit and the Holy Spirit are largely "untrackable;" yet many are determined to track and control us.  It's excited the distrust of so many high-powered people, that big profits are being made in gearing up the technological deliveries of mind control methods, and even wireless emotion "reading." Human goodness could stop them, and they know it.

      You could say they've defined the human mind and spirit as the front lines in their war against the human race.  But the quality and ability to rethink things from other perspectives, and arrive at a different conclusion is HIGHLY human.  By establishing good, moral ground rules, and being inclusive of others' needs, we work out better ways to solve problems that all people face.

      For example, when it's possible to clone body parts, why aren't we doing so?  Why aren't we cloning just organs?  And why aren't we cloning just the umbilical cords?  We have urgent need to repair our damaged, aging bodies, but we needn't create a scenario for murder.  Just clone parts.  Science has proven it's possible, and industry has to make it affordable.  The beauty of it is, that every cloned part can be made to exactly match the recipient's cells, and this does away with organ rejection and the necessity of drugging to prevent rejection (by suppressing the immune system's vital protections).

      So don't be so quick to condemn flip-flopping.  Men and women are in a lifelong struggle with their morality, to find what's good and do it, and to include what's relevant to other people, and act on it.  It isn't easy!!  Loving and acting for others takes courage, and largesse of spirit and will.  But struggle for it!  It takes faith to believe in the love of God, and stand on it.

      The older we get, the more sleepless nights we have, because conscience and understanding sharpen.  Somehow it manages to derail the benefit of an increasingly fuzzy memory.  It may be that flip-flopping is a sign of a spirit in a wrestling match ... which is always preferable to the "dead calm" of a spirit in a coma.  It's OK to sweat.

  •  Tommy Roe (0+ / 0-)

    There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

    by bernardpliers on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:53:27 PM PST

  •  This guy is a joke (3+ / 0-)
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    Out of all the asshat GOP candidates, I can't stand Mitt the most.  At least the rest of those idiots have some form of conviction.  I may disagree with about 99% of what they are selling, but at least they stand behind their spoiled product.  Mitt is without a doubt the biggest flip-flopper ever.

  •  Seems he's wearing out his flip-flops (1+ / 0-)
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    He'll need to get some new ones soon.

    15 years old and a proud progressive and Phillies phan.

    by vidanto on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:56:24 PM PST

  •  Let him distance himself from personhood. (0+ / 0-)

    He'll still lose a lot of yahoo-votes he needs.

    Ideology is an excuse to ignore common sense.

    by Bush Bites on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 01:58:25 PM PST

    •  if it's the primary, he's not getting them, (0+ / 0-)

      if it's the general he is.  He should have just shut up.  The thing is, it's mostly what he's doing.

      "This world demands the qualities of youth: not a time of life but a state of mind[.]" -- Robert F. Kennedy

      by Loge on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:08:25 PM PST

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  •  XIV Amendment...means (1+ / 0-)
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    ...just in case Mittens is unclear on how the constitution works, the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America was passed after the civil war to guarantee that "states rights" wouldn't mean an individual state, Mississippi e.g., could pass a law legalizing slavery again or denying rights to POC.

    This has been extended to say that the US Constitution is in "superior position" legally to ALL state laws in every respect. A constitutional amendment would, therefore, make it impossible for any state to try to backslide on abortion.

    Mitt is a walking, talking crock of shit which stinketh.

    "Always remember this: They fight with money and we resist with time, and they’re going to run out of money before we run out of time." -Utah Philips

    by TerryDarc on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:02:22 PM PST

  •  I have the perfect song for Mitt (1+ / 0-)
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    If the pundits are correct and Mit does become the GOP nominee, I'd love for the Obama peeps to come up with a commercial showing all the flip-flops Mitt has made using the song "Dizzy" as background music.

    Think about the song in your mind......It'd be great, wouldn't it?

    - If you don't like gay marriage, blame straight people. They're the ones who keep having gay babies.

    by r2did2 on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:05:10 PM PST

  •  Hey look, he's always ready for the beach with all (1+ / 0-)
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    those flip-flops!

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:08:13 PM PST

  •  I like the pictures of Willard (1+ / 0-)
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    that accompany this diary.  He looks like a set of doorknobs.  Which is oddly satisfying.

    As is the entire republican field.  After the last debate, I wanted to put them all in bumper cars and turn them loose.  The whole thing is just cartoonish.

    Believe in your cause without hatred; Fight for your cause without violence.

    by CJB on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:20:40 PM PST

  •  He's either schizoid or supremely democratic. nt (0+ / 0-)

    We Will NOT Compromise On Fairness.

    by franklyn on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:22:38 PM PST

  •  An intelligent journalist could really get him (0+ / 0-)

    good by just asking his opinion about a few things - and then asking the same questions worded differently.

    #OccupyOMC - "We have a permit, its called The Constitution".

    by Evolutionary on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:25:23 PM PST

  •  It Is 100% Objectionable (0+ / 0-)

    to 95% of GOP primary voters to say that you favor turning abortion over to the states.

    See, Mitt, YOUR side says that "abortion is murder."  Do you favor allowing crazy California and NY and MA folk to let 'persons" be killed with no legal consequences?  Is that your position?  If so, go join Rudy Guiliani in the "never will be the nominee" line.

  •  Protecting tiny growing humans: (0+ / 0-)

    It's understandable to see men flip-flop on this issue, when we women (who bear the babies in question) also flip-flop concerning protecting the life of others.  Selfishness has a way of prevailing over genuine loving sacrifice; on its' face, it seems more profitable and convenient, even "green," to kill babies.  It's certainly big business.

    This eugenic stance on life has tainted the roots of every explanation and discussion, so that what we actually talk about is already skewed towards death, economic concerns, sexism, the feminist movement, dissolution of the family, and personal opportunity costs.  The tiny growing baby is forgotten, except as a statistic from undesirable community demographics, and regarded as one doomed ... as doomed as our own morality and hope for eternal life.

    God clarified the matter for me when I felt my daughter's spirit rush in (at the moment of conception), and I heard Him say to me, "You've got Vera!"  (I'd dreamed of Vera since I was 17 years old; I was 30, when this occurred.)  My instantaneous, gleeful announcement didn't go over big, at the time; but from then on, I knew that LIFE definitively begins at conception, the very moment God sends the human spirit into the human fertilized egg.

    It's about time we women became the heros we always dreamed we would one day be, by standing together to protect tiny growing unborn humans in the womb.  What earthly use are we, if we haven't the love to do that most basic, needful thing?  Especially now, when so many terrible forces, having been marshaled together, are galvanized to exterminate the human race on a global scale -- the twilight of the new Dark Ages.

    In this age of great miracles, if a woman doesn't want her baby, why not put the infant into a preemie pod, or transfer the living baby into another mother, who wants a child, or will carry it for another?  Or even pay her to carry her child, to give to another who wants children.  

    Where there's the will, there's a way.  The means and methods of doing so will develop when we take a stand together on protecting human infants developing in the womb, and their rights to life.  This must cross every party line, to each and every woman -- and men must back it up with the ways and means, and full funding.

    After all, haven't we developed many ways of preventing conception, without resorting to murdering infants?

  •  huckabee asked if he would "support" a constitutio (0+ / 0-)

    a constitutional amendment etc. Of course mitt romney would support it lol

    he would support anything.

    i cant wait to see romney vs tea party candidate in jan.

  •  Or think of it this way ... (0+ / 0-)

    If it becomes possible in the near future to further "sex" the baby -- gender becomes defined at about 4 mos. gestation, simultaneously with hormones from liver development --  and by this, I mean not only to discover the babies' gender, but to discover its' gender affiliations (refined hormone and DNA measurements; further studies, should make that possible) --  WOULD IT SIT RIGHT WITH YOU if people chose to abort their "gay" babies?  Or abort just the females (as they do in China); or abort just the males (since they ARE the SOURCE of global aggressions, poisening and WARS!)

    Wouldn't the selectivity of these abortions smack of genocide to you?  Yes, of course ... you'd be outraged.

    So in this age, where our highest military and scientific members of the global community, together with national power brokers, are acting out the will of what they refer to as "inter-dimensional beings" (which HUMANKIND has ALWAYS called DEMONS) -- doesn't the wholesale aborting of the human race smack of genocide?  

    Or do you need to be rounded up in a Red/Blue List FEMA sweep, under martial law, and face immediate guillotining, or life imprisonment as a slave, without recourse to judge or jury, to realize that the extermination of the human race is being implemented?

    See, the "interdimensional beings" have told the global elite that eliminating over 95% of the planet's population will make the Earth a better place, and humans so much easier to dominate.  And the global elite are seeing that the demons' methods will make them kings upon the Earth again; they can take what they want, without having to pay for it.  You pay for it.

  •  I'm waiting with bated breath (1+ / 0-)
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    for some bright young GOP spark in the Wisconsin legislature to introduce a "Personhood" bill or amendment. Of course, it will have to wait it's turn because Litjens (R-Town of Crazy) has been waiting since August to introduce the "Women's Protection Act".

    "Overgrown, stuck-up goat," the cat muttered.

    by GenuineRisk on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 04:51:16 PM PST

  •  I have been a southern liberal (0+ / 0-)

    since Kennedy(no pity please).I can usually predict how these votes will go.I was  shocked at the outcome,especially the margin.The glee that is in my heart is how folks like Romney will explain their stance.Also Haley Barbour(think very smart,clever Boss Hogg),will now have to explain his vote.

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