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With way too little investment, by the private sector, being done the only ones left are us, the public, and through the government, with fair and balanced contributions from all that continue payback when successfully invested, as these investments benefit everyone and especially the business communities. It's what we once did which caused rapid economic growth, in many area's, and innovations envied by the rest of this planet, not long ago.

On alternative energies we started down that road some forty years back. The special interests in the energy sources being used started using all sorts of excuses to not invest and grow these new industries, a couple were the cheap cost of fossil fuel energy already in use and the new, very expensive to build and maintain, nuclear energy plants. Those same forces maintained these for these past decades but the meme's have had to change during that time, fossil fuel oil is no longer cheap and rose rapidly in the early part of the past decade and stayed high.

Last night they discussed the Solar company government investment in Solyndra, on the PBS Newshour, that went bad as that and other solar companies here collapsed with the economic collapse.

The speakers of the special interests are still at their game. One of the guest in the discussion was Robert Bryce of The Manhattan Institute. Near the end of his many excuses for no government investments in, while pushing the damaging new fracking use to get at natural gas in the earths crust, failing to mention those same interests helped bring in the new capitalism of the free market trickle down of capital ideologies. Let the money quickly flow to the top and they would invest in economic growth continuously, including the many infrastructure needs, instead of any government investments, he brings up Apple as an example. Saying how Apple develops it's products here but manufactures them overseas.

Robert Bryce: To me, the rhetoric is remarkably similar to what we have heard in the past from the corn ethanol scammers about the evils of foreign oil. I don't see much difference. Why is it OK for Apple to produce all -- or manufacture all their products overseas, and that's OK, but somehow now we're supposed to be autonomous or we're supposed to produce all of our own solar panels?

In doing so he fails, once again, to mention that the new capitalism, of his ideologies, is what transferred the manufacturing needs of this country, not only economic but also that oft used national security needs, experienced trades workers, as well as the innovations and experienced innovative work force trades, overseas. And once again no one brings up that over the past couple of decades, especially this past one, the ideologies he holds so dear have been trying to beat down labors wages and benefits as well as no corporate regulations bringing this country, the U.S., more in line with the highly profitable corporate use of overseas labor instead of helping the workers they use there to advance forward, being rewarded by sharing in their labor and the once real capitalism we had.

Amid Solyndra Turmoil, How Involved Should Government Be in Energy Research?

AIR DATE: Nov. 17, 2011 - SUMMARY
Should the government help spur or back certain kinds of energy research? Jeffrey Brown discusses the political storm over the government's backing of the now-bankrupt solar panel manufacturer Solyndra with Eileen Claussen of the Center for Climate and Energy Solutions and Robert Bryce of The Manhattan Institute. Transcript>>>

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  •  Tip Jar (6+ / 0-)

    CCR:"If you're a torturer, be careful in your travel plans. It's a slow process for accountability, but we keep going."

    by jimstaro on Fri Nov 18, 2011 at 03:53:51 AM PST

  •  How do you define economic growth? (0+ / 0-)

    If it simply means that virtually all human transactions are mediated by money so they can be easily counted and traced and tabulated, then I'd suggest that growth is potentially a net negative.  That's because immediate or direct exchanges between producers and users are actually retarded and unnecessarily complicated.  Take, for example, the processing and distribution of food in the household.  When part of that process is carried out in a factory (e.g. pizza dough), instead of by the cook in the household, then the currency required to purchase that half-prepared meal is both an impediment and a waste of time even as it registers as growth in the economy.

    Is there any reason why a political consensus on how our resources are used should not direct how our human energies and capacities are used?  No.  The abdication of such decision-making to so-called private corporations (artificial bodies chartered by political subdivisions) is merely an effort to evade responsibility by elected representatives. In retrospect, it seems obvious that elected officials have always preferred handing the stewardship of our national assets and resources off to their supporters and friends instead of allocating them usefully themselves.  Some, but not all.  We do, after all, have examples of successful public works (water and electrical and transportation utilities) on the state, county and municipal levels. The notion that enterprise needs to produce profit for people who do nothing but hoard money has only recently gained currency among a rather, it turns out, select population who have dubbed themselves "financial engineers."

    People to Wall Street: "LET OUR MONEY GO"

    by hannah on Fri Nov 18, 2011 at 04:41:26 AM PST

    •  Economic Growth (2+ / 0-)
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      hannah, llbear

      Comes out of the growth that so called intelligent beings, us, invent or produce or perfect..............................and on and on!!

      See it only took as few words!!

      'Money' is the human invention, found in many different forms and others forms that supposedly support it throughout our existence!!

      CCR:"If you're a torturer, be careful in your travel plans. It's a slow process for accountability, but we keep going."

      by jimstaro on Fri Nov 18, 2011 at 05:48:51 AM PST

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