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Not long ago I watched a presentation by Naomi Klein where she talked about the "Shock Doctrine," whereas entrenched powers (the real power brokers behind the veneer of democratic government) exploit disastrous events in order to shock people into accepting the imposition of oppressive (security and and economic) policies.

I remember one comment she made during the presentation; she mentioned that there may come a time when the fear of speaking out against oppression or exposing its imposition may make her stop, if she felt she was putting herself in danger.

As I research the issue of the rapidly rising police state, I'm beginning to fully understand what she meant when she made that comment.

Another thing I'm beginning to realize is that there will never be another violent revolution in the United States.  Those who value order and stability should be very glad.

The imposition of the Police State is so complete, and the "total information awareness" surveillance system so ubiquitous, that any nascent militant resistance movement would be immediately  squashed.  So again, no need to worry about that ever again...

On November 29th I wrote a diary about the Department of Homeland Security's push to set up a "Federated Information-Sharing System," which is the next step in the development of so-called "Fusion Centers."  

After 9/11, there was a push to create fusion centers so that local, state, and federal agencies could share intelligence, allowing the FBI, for example, to see if the local police have anything in their files on a particular individual. Now the Department of Homeland Security wants to create its own internal fusion center so that its many agencies can aggregate the data they have and make it searchable from a central location.

I also wrote about military contractors offering states spy technology that enables predator drones to "see through walls."  But what I wasn't expecting is to see this technology used against American citizens so soon.  But I guess I should not be surprised: "Police employ Predator drone spy planes on home front."

As the unmanned aircraft circled 2 miles overhead the next morning, sophisticated sensors under the nose helped pinpoint the three suspects and showed they were unarmed. Police rushed in and made the first known arrests of U.S. citizens with help from a Predator, the spy drone that has helped revolutionize modern warfare.

And according the the Los Angeles Times article, "Local police say they have used two unarmed Predators based at Grand Forks Air Force Base to fly at least two dozen surveillance flights since June. The FBI and Drug Enforcement Administration have used Predators for other domestic investigations, officials said."

And speaking of the FBI, not long ago security researcher Trevor Eckhart reported that a company called Carrier IQ, "came under fire after [he] demonstrated that the previously little-known company had software installed on a variety of phones on a variety of networks that could track user locations, keystrokes, encrypted Internet traffic and more, some of which was or could be sent back to either the cell phone owner's service provider or Carrier IQ's own servers," according to Michael Morisy of  MuckRock News.

Well, now it turns out that after Morisy submitted a Freedom of Information Act Request, the FBI has admitted that they are indeed accessing data produced by Carrier IQ for law enforcement investigative purposes.

And that's not all (of course).  The Wall Street Journal recently reported that it obtained documents that "open a rare window into a new global market for the off-the-shelf surveillance technology that has arisen in the decade since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001."

The techniques described in the trove of 200-plus marketing documents include hacking tools that enable governments to break into people’s computers and cellphones, and "massive intercept" gear that can gather all Internet communications in a country.

I encourage people to check out the report: The Surveillance Catalog - Where governments get their tools.

Folks, when these powers that are now encircling us, taking over countries, one by one, turn to the dark side (once and for all), it ain't going to be pretty.  There is no precedence for this type of totalitarian control in the entire history of humanity.

I will continue writing about these things for the foreseeable future, but all of the sudden, I'm beginning to understand Naomi's concern a little better.  

When an oppressive government can track your every action, every communication, every move, and when it can even see through walls, there is no telling what horrors it could eventually inflict on those who rise in protest, whether the protest is peaceful (as we've seen thus far), or otherwise.


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  •  I'm so glad I have a dumb phone (3+ / 0-)
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    Ray Pensador, COBALT1928, Lujane

    and not a smart one.

    I figured out the difference - you're shocked, I'm resigned.  We both see bad coming down the pike.

    And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

    by Mortifyd on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 07:57:24 PM PST

    •  I'm not shocked, nor resigned. I truly believe (9+ / 0-)

      that we (the people) should take on these scumbags trying to enslave us.  I will never accept the imposition of a police state and of tyranny.  I will fight against it with every lawful and constitutional (and peaceful) mean at my disposal, no matter how long it takes.

      •  It's too late. (7+ / 0-)

        While I admire your courage to take them on - I don't want you to get ventilated.  And that's what's going to happen at some point and time in the not so distant future.  Americans who dissent will be ventilated.  Once the second term is over the backlash and the Republic of Giliad will be all that's left of the nation I called home.

        I grew up a junior member of the military industrial complex.  It is entrenched in a way that it cannot be removed short of a reboot.  We're too lazy and scared to actually reboot.  We are a soft people.  We will be like John Locke on LOST - wondering right up until the end - why?

        The why is simple - because we have no value to the people who actually run the place - and they've been running it since before I was born.

        And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

        by Mortifyd on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 08:12:09 PM PST

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      •  Incredibly informative diary... (5+ / 0-)

        And, you're right... it's time.

        I believe the first step is to get acquainted with the only way to successfully turn this country around.

        This story in The Telegraph talks about an 83 year old professor @ UMASS (Dartmouth) in Boston  named Gene Sharp who wrote a brilliantly instructive book on how to start a [nonviolent] revolution called, "From Dictatorship to Democracy."

        A great, inspirational read.

        Thanks for the diary.

  •  While this is true for all the reasons you stated: (6+ / 0-)
    Another thing I'm beginning to realize is that there will never be another violent revolution in the United States.  

    Does it matter very much to you that you live in a permanent police state?

    Did you wish to live another way during your lifetime?

    Have you selected a free nation to enjoy such a life yet?

    Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank and he can rob the world. Nationalize the bastards.

    by Pluto on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 08:18:17 PM PST

    •  Here are my answers: (10+ / 0-)

      1. Yes, it matters a big deal to me that we live in a permanent police state.

      2. Yes, I wish to see the complete dismantling of the illegal and unconstitutional surveillance and security apparatus, and I wish to see it within my lifetime.

      3. I'm a citizen of this country, and as such, as see it as my responsibility to do everything I can to make sure it remains a free and democratic country.

      •  LOL you miss the point completely (3+ / 0-)
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        that phone and facebook aren't the product, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT, read the damn EULA.  You have to sign on to location tracking and the phone company has access to your location at all times and that the companies on the net own your data.

        You damn well agreed to this the second you bought an iphone or created a facebook account.  You just didn't read it and thought it was cool.

        You could always buy a pay by minuet old phone that didn't have email and a handy GPS (how do you think they track you) or not have a facebook and publish your life away.  But that wouldn't be cool.

        This is really on us and corporations like apple and google.  The government is just using what people legally agreed to put out in the open for the most part here.

        Also you can hack the drones pretty easily, they don't even have dedicated AES chips but that's not a conversation for here.

        "Foolproof systems don't take into account the ingenuity of fools."

        by overclocking on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 08:32:16 PM PST

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      •  you (4+ / 0-)
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        are a free being on this planet. If you had been born in North Korea or Saudi Arabia, you would not be obligated to remain there to try to make the place "a free and democratic country." The same is true of the US. You can leave. For a place that is not a permanent police state. People have done that sort of thing for thousands of years. If American exceptionalism is wrong, which it is, it is wrong too to think that people should remain in the US when they would not remain in such a place if it were some other country. It is an accident that you were born here. You had no choice in the matter. You do have a choice, however, as to whether you stay. Or sail for someplace sane.

        •  Yes, but that is our choice. I don't think is (6+ / 0-)
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          polite to tell people "if you don't like it, then leave."  Some people believe in fighting for what is right; in standing up to oppression; in speaking truth to power.

          You could actually run into these sort of issues no matter where you are.  If I lived in Spain, or France, or Italy, or Greece, or wherever, and I thought government corruption and oppression were present, I would be railing against it there too.

          That's what freedom-loving people do in every country.  Any semblance of freedom, and democracy, and dignity for the common man depends on that type of constant vigilance--no matter where you are.

          •  you (4+ / 0-)
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            misread. I am not saying "if you don't like it, then leave." I am saying that if you perceive the place as a permanent police state, why would you want to remain? Life is short. Spend it somewhere where your life is more valued. As for fighting: why? It's better to live on your feet, than to die on your knees.

            •  It is better to die on your feet , (0+ / 0-)

              than to live on your knees. Resist for your children and grandchildren, so they can live on their feet.

              " Resistance is NOT futile, it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling." Wino

              by Wino on Wed Dec 14, 2011 at 07:59:53 AM PST

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        •  Wow, great, if that's the case (3+ / 0-)
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          are a free being on this planet.

          then I'm outta here!  See ya!


        •  I don't have a choice. (5+ / 0-)
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          Due to my health conditions, I am stuck in this country. Nobody sane wants me. Belueve me, brother, we have looked. Our only choice is to help make this place someplace sane.

          Organ donors save multiple lives! A donor's kidney gave me my life back on 02/18/11; he lives on in me and in others. Please talk with your family about your wish to donate and sign up to give others the gift of life.

          by Kitsap River on Wed Dec 14, 2011 at 05:02:05 AM PST

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  •  on the iphone and droid phones (5+ / 0-)

    those phones track you, all smart phones due to an extent but the iphone is by far the worst and originating offender in this.  Just about anybody can get the data, kinda like facebook, you use it you're tracking your damnself, someone just has to bother to go get the data.

    There are ways around this though.  Basic, prepaid phones that have no GPS installed and you don't have to agree to apples terms to be tracked or lose functionality.  Don't use facebook and when you access the internet get your ass behind a proxy that bounces your IP all over the globe.

    However, by using smart devices that know your location, and usuing social media that maps your life, you should realize that data is pretty much open to anybody who wants it.  The iphone and facebook are not the product, you are the product, you just haven't figure that one out yet.

    "Foolproof systems don't take into account the ingenuity of fools."

    by overclocking on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 08:23:20 PM PST

    •  I have an Android, and I use it because it's (5+ / 0-)
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      convenient; because of the different apps, etc.  I've worked in technology dealing with very high-end security issues (law enforcement, fraud detection, etc.), so I'm familiar with the capabilities of these technologies.

      I'm not concerned about being monitored, since I always assume that if someone in the government feel so inclined, they will do it.  But since the times I started using technology and the Internet, I've always assume that every keystroke can be monitored, access, analyzed, added to a database, integrated with other data to come up with a profile, etc.

      My issue is not with trying to hide my steps, but with the overall imposition of the Police State.  If I were so inclined as to wanting to hide something, I would never use anything having to do with electronic technology.

      •  don't get me wrong, I'm in security as well (4+ / 0-)
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        I just don't think most people have a remote clue how these things actually work, or what they are getting into.  I worked for Navy and DOD after.  Most people have no fucking idea what a GPS does other than (I can navigate my car) and that's the issue.

        "Foolproof systems don't take into account the ingenuity of fools."

        by overclocking on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 08:40:23 PM PST

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        •  That's precisely my point. Most people have no (2+ / 0-)
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          idea about these technologies, but they shouldn't have to.  They should feel confident in knowing that they live in a democracy, and that their constitutional rights to privacy are going to be respected.

          After all, people are working, busting their assess, more and more hours, for less and less money, while their retirement accounts are looted by the criminal banksters.

          Well, I do grant you one point... We are learning that freedom depends on the eternal vigilance of the populace.

          •  I don't fully agree, they should learn (1+ / 0-)
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            you get an iphone, what do you think GPS does, it's obviously tracking you!  Apple states you have to give them your location.  facebook states they own your information.  Unless you can't read this information is there.

            I do agree that jumping through proxies or vpns and tor data on the net is kinda "out there" information that outside of being in security or doing something illegal you wouldn't know what the hell those terms mean, and the average person shouldn't be asked to know that.  But on the other hand apple and facebook are rather blatant about how they own you and people choose to let them do that.  That's on the consumer at that point.

            "Foolproof systems don't take into account the ingenuity of fools."

            by overclocking on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 08:52:10 PM PST

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  •  there's one small aspect (7+ / 0-)

    of this that might save The People, or at least delay the onset of whatever's coming.

    They (THEY) are collecting so much information, but that also means it has to be sorted, analyzed, codified. And I suspect that wherever this information is housed looks something like the last scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

    At least, I hope it does.

    The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it is difficult to determine whether or not they are genuine. -- Abraham Lincoln

    by Mnemosyne on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 08:33:00 PM PST

    •  That's why the "Top people" put a big lock (5+ / 0-)
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      ...on that warehouse.

      They couldn't sort it all and decided it was better just to lock it down.

      That's how this story always ends.

      The question is:  When it's locked down, are you inside the warehouse?

      Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank and he can rob the world. Nationalize the bastards.

      by Pluto on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 08:48:39 PM PST

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    •  lol, no here is where it is (5+ / 0-)
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      and where most of it is processed.  There are farms in various places off them, at times acres.  It's not even a big secret.  The NSA buys them from them and Cray uses it as a marketing point, other groups use them as well.

      It's not even hidden from you now.  Hell the NSA has Cray computers on display including some of the first super computers as part of their partnership in cryptography.  This stuff isn't even hidden.

      "Foolproof systems don't take into account the ingenuity of fools."

      by overclocking on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 08:58:26 PM PST

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    •  they're too damn cheap to pay for humint (4+ / 0-)
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      so they'll use massive algorithms, which they are assured will work really well, and they'll get lots of false matches, and they'll ruin those people just like poor mr. tuttle in brazil, because they don't care enough to make an accurately evil system.

      •  Of all the future dystopias (4+ / 0-)

        that stand a good chance of turing out to be prophetic, Brazil seems to be winning.

        Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.

        by Simplify on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 11:51:43 PM PST

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        •  or, for the more media focused: Max Headroom .. (2+ / 0-)
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          ..20 minutes into the future, indeed.

, where did I leave my torches and villagers?

          by FrankSpoke on Wed Dec 14, 2011 at 12:52:24 AM PST

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          •  remember when Max Headroom (2+ / 0-)
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            first appeared? Quite a few comparisons were made between Max and Bush the Elder.

            At the time, we thought it was funny. Now it seems prophetic.

            The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it is difficult to determine whether or not they are genuine. -- Abraham Lincoln

            by Mnemosyne on Wed Dec 14, 2011 at 08:40:57 AM PST

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            •  Prophetic.. was working in AI at the time .. (2+ / 0-)
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              .. and seemingly surrounded by the promise of what "it" (AI, the internet, technology) could accomplish. I watched as ARPAnet, which I had been using for my emails re: education/business projects became the web and observed, "Great. Another delivery medium for advertisements."

              Max brought it all down to earth, in a hyper-surreal post-apocalyptic vein that has always tickled my nerve endings - I was absolutely transfixed.

              And, yes,  the resemblance of the talking heads to each other and the portrayal of a layered reality of image/message in our media-infused existence (both for evil and potentially, good) had much to say about "contemporary" times, journalism and corporate ethics.

              And here we are, slinging bits across the world - "Philosophizing for Fixes" - while in the streets just outside.. the occupying peasant-tweeters cycle between facing-off with, and then scattering from, the corporate-owned, drone-armed police state.

              "Edison Carter reporting.."

              Thanks for the comment!

    , where did I leave my torches and villagers?

              by FrankSpoke on Wed Dec 14, 2011 at 11:12:18 AM PST

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  •  they'll try to control it all (4+ / 0-)
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    but it never works.

    The problem with Total Information Awareness is too much information. Too much information for human beings to sort through, no matter how many clever algorithms they devise.

    Top-down systems of control have a weakness: if you centralize control in one authority figure, it takes too long to make decisions. Information has to be gathered, processed, and sent up the line to the top, and the larger the system gets the more cumbersome this process becomes. The more elaborate their mechanisms of control become, the more potential points of weakness they create and the more difficult it becomes to maintain the status quo. If one gear slips in their enormous mechanism, it could cause huge problems.

    Eventually it becomes too much. The people at the top can't process the information fast enough and they make a fatal mistake that leads to the collapse of the system--which can happen very fast.

    Fortunately, the people in charge are not gods, even if they're deluded enough to think so. They're mortals too and they will screw up.

    That's not to say it won't get very bad here. But it won't be forever.

    "In America, the law is king." --Thomas Paine

    by limpidglass on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 08:37:07 PM PST

    •  WRONG (2+ / 0-)
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      No such thing as to much information, or too complicated a password or anything like that now.

      On the high end, where power consumption and complexity do not matter, there is no such thing as too much data now.  It's a joke.

      There are acres of cray super computer farms out there

      "Foolproof systems don't take into account the ingenuity of fools."

      by overclocking on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 08:43:39 PM PST

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      •  the Iraqis captured Predator drone video feeds (2+ / 0-)
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        with $30 off-the-shelf software. The feeds were unencrypted and could therefore be easily downloaded.

        What is not usually pointed out is that the gov't actually knew about this flaw since the 1990s, but chose not to fix it because they didn't think it would matter.

        People are people. They make mistakes, get complacent, are reluctant to change, subject to political pressure, and have blind spots. They make wrong assumptions.

        All the data processing power in the world won't change that. If you go beyond the limits of your models' applicability--and most models are pushed way beyond their domain of applicability--then you have nothing.

        We went to war in Iraq and failed to conquer a desert nation the size of California with a third-rate military. How, then, do you think they could maintain control over the entire United States if they had to use force on a massive scale?

        "In America, the law is king." --Thomas Paine

        by limpidglass on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 08:55:49 PM PST

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      •  GIGO (1+ / 0-)
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        no matter how big the computer.

        •  bad logic (0+ / 0-)

          Garbage In Garbage Out requires you're searching for something specific or trying to get exact data.  Doesn't apply at all to a data dragnet where you just want data to sort through after.

          "Foolproof systems don't take into account the ingenuity of fools."

          by overclocking on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 11:10:48 PM PST

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    •  The type of tyrannical police state being imposed (3+ / 0-)
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      is "distributed."  It does not depend on a ruthless dictator.  It's systemic.

      •  This military/culture/1% caste system has lost (2+ / 0-)
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        its 4th war now .


           Vietnam was the second, Iran was the third. That was fought with a Iraq proxy war with an installed king and a secret service, SAVAK and a military based on typical Middle Eastern hierarchy.  None of those factors or little scenarios were success stories.  Intel, killer Drones are a sign of the decay, moral and physical of empire.

        When the servants of the 1% do the things they know are reprehensible, legally forbidden or lack real or moral support, they want to hide. Hide the evidence, hide their own identities.   At some point there won't be enough police, SWAT teams, TAC squads,all the alphabet soup paramilitaries, DHS, NSA, to cope with what they have unleashed and fostered.

            Then we will see how brave and daring they, the real top fraction of deadender 1%  really are.

        If you think that you and a bunch of other people can just show up on Wall St, camp out and have any effect whatsoever.... Yes we can! Lexington Kentucky 77 days we are going strong!

        by BeeDeeS on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 09:06:55 PM PST

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        •  the 1% will run into problems (2+ / 0-)
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          when their security start to realize that they can do better for themselves by setting up their own business, and not working for pocket change. that's the flip side of feudalism, it beings back all the aspects, not just the ones that the elite wants.

          they may even have to start training their progeny in warfare again, like the good ol days.

      •  it was systemic in the 1930s too (2+ / 0-)
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        all across Europe, some kind of fascism became the norm. Germany and Italy were the most notorious, but Poland, Hungary, Spain, and Portugal all had authoritarian, right wing regimes that resembled fascism to various degrees. In Asia, Japan became a militaristic, imperial power. It was a worldwide phenomenon, and had the Allies lost WWII, it would have indeed covered the whole globe.

        Fortunately, the fascists overreached, they made big mistakes, and eventually they lost the war.

        In 1984, Orwell imagined a state of affairs like you're suggesting: a dictatorship without an actual dictator that could perpetuate itself forever.

        But I think it's very difficult to get there. Human beings are greedy--especially the sort who crave power. Among the people in charge, there will be a few who want more than the others and they'll fight and squabble and plot among themselves for supremacy. Therein lies the hope of freedom: that class warfare will continue between the rich and the ultra-rich.

        It's very hard to change human nature to the extent needed to create a perfect dictatorship. For which we can be thankful.

        "In America, the law is king." --Thomas Paine

        by limpidglass on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 09:18:29 PM PST

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        •  I tend to agree with Orwell's interpretation. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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          •  Orwell's book is fiction (2+ / 0-)
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            I view 1984 as a lucid expression of certain horrifying tendencies in human nature, and a valuable cautionary tale. I have cited it many times in discussion here at Daily Kos.

            But still, it's fiction, not reality. Reality is always very different from what we imagine, even if you're as imaginative as Orwell.

            For instance, Orwell did not foresee climate change, or that resource scarcity would make a permanent war economy impossible. That's not to say he was unimaginative, or unperceptive: these were issues that no one even conceived of in his time. He was a man of his time, and had the limitations of his time.

            Things will never be quite as bad as what we dream up.

            "In America, the law is king." --Thomas Paine

            by limpidglass on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 09:49:09 PM PST

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            •  A permanent war economy is possible (1+ / 0-)
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              Ray Pensador

              resource scarcity or not.  Indeed, it can be achieved just as it was in Orwell's fiction:  through the deep and pervasive impoverishment of every other aspect of society.

              If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. ~Malcolm X

              by ActivistGuy on Wed Dec 14, 2011 at 06:15:43 AM PST

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  •  Be careful -- (2+ / 0-)
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    You have "Naomi Wolf" and then a link to Naomi Klein...

    "American money is a political commodity, backed by nothing except the willingness of collective holders of that money to believe in the American system of wealth production and trade." -- Matt Stoller

    by Cassiodorus on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 09:21:27 PM PST

  •  We must lie (0+ / 0-)

    As long as it's still not a crime.

    "oops, officer, I never did manage to make to that flashmob that never happened."

    "I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismograph."
    --Ken Kesey

    by drobnox on Tue Dec 13, 2011 at 10:05:17 PM PST

  •  You missed economic collapse. (1+ / 0-)
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    The problem with thinking that any nascent uprising would be squashed is that actually doing that would require that the unrest remains within the capabilities of the team of squashers. Once there is more unrest than can be squashed by the current team of muscled enforcers, the unrest wins.

    Also, the amount of unrest must remain small enough that it's removal does not destabilize the system.

    Economic collapse spreads enough pain along such a wide segment of the people that neither of those requirements can be met. There is not a team of Unrest Squashers large enough to pacify that many angry people, and even if there was such an army the very act of pacification would bring further destabilization.

    "I must confess, when I see anyone with an Obama 2012 bumper sticker, I recognize them as a threat to the gene pool." - Republican Congressman Allen West (FL-22) Rawstory Source

    by JayFromPA on Wed Dec 14, 2011 at 04:58:44 AM PST

  •  I couldn't help noticing (3+ / 0-)
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    that the following passage from "The Coming Insurrection"is spot-on  applicable here:

    The unmanned drone that flew over Seine-Saint-Denis last July 14th – as the police later confirmed – presents a much more vivid image of the future than all the fuzzy humanistic projections. That they were careful to assure us that the drone was unarmed gives us a clear indication of the road we’re headed down.

    If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. ~Malcolm X

    by ActivistGuy on Wed Dec 14, 2011 at 06:18:49 AM PST

  •  why isn't dKos freaking out over this (2+ / 0-)
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    or the indefinite detentions of american citizens our senate just passes, or the emails showing that the sale of guns to mexican drug dealers is about passing new gun laws?

    Oh, we have the WH, and that's all that counts.

    Thanks for the diary.  I fear for my kids.

    "Pelosi was the only damn one of the entire lot who showed any ounce of leadership the last two years"-- The Dead Man

    by musicalhair on Wed Dec 14, 2011 at 07:05:38 AM PST

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