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Speaker John Boehner: "It's not a concession
unless I say it's a concession."

This is what happens when Democrats reach out to Republicans by saying things like "we'll trade you a millionaire's surtax for Keystone XL" in the payroll tax cut extension debate.
[C]heck out how John Boehner responded today when asked whether the Dem willingness to drop the surtax would improve the prospects of a deal:
"They never had the votes for their so-called millionaires' surtax," Boehner said at his weekly briefing with reporters. "They didn't even have the votes in 2009 and 2010, when they controlled everything. So, I appreciate the fact that they gave up on their millionaires' surtax, but they didn't give anything up because they never had it."

This is an important quote, and we should store it for future reference. Republicans are saying that if Dems drop their demand for the millionaire surtax, it won't even count as giving something up. Dems never had a chance at getting their surtax, because Republicans have refused to support it. And so, even though Dems have been demanding it in the current discussions, dropping that demand won't count as a concession on Dems' part.

As a matter of fact, in the last vote they did have the votes for the millionaire's surtax, they even had bipartisan support, since Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) voted for it. A majority of the U.S. Senate says tax the rich. But because the majority doesn't count in the Senate, the bomb-throwers in the GOP won.

So the orange-tinted fuck that leads the nihilists gets to say what is and what isn't a concession. Fine. Either keep the millionaire's surtax or do what Congress has always done with tax cuts and don't pay for them in any way. Give Boehner either of those two options, and if he refuses to take either one, put the blame squarely on him when they aren't extended.

Boeher said, "If the Senate acts, I’m committed to bringing the House back to deal with whatever the Senate does. And there is absolutely no interest on our part in trying to be strident about this." So go on Christmas break without these tax cuts extended, without unemployment extended, beat up on them every single day of the holiday break, and make them come back and fix this.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:22 AM PST.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (29+ / 0-)

    "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

    by Joan McCarter on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:22:07 AM PST

  •  Are these GOP idiots ready.... (10+ / 0-)

    ...to be portrayed as the party that puts Grover Norquist, ideology, and millionaire donors over the rest of us? I hope there are lots of boxes of tissues ready for John Boehner's use when he learns that his party has lost control of the House during next November's elections.

    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." --Gandhi

    by alaprst on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:26:20 AM PST

    •  That is... (5+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      TomP, KenBee, ljb, NamelessGenXer, DawnN

      ...tissues not made by any company controlled by the Koch brothers.

      "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." --Gandhi

      by alaprst on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:27:47 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Nice segue - Here's a list of Koch bros products (9+ / 0-)

        to NEVER EVER buy - share it widely. Interesting that the two of the biggest a-holes in the world are in the TP business.

        KOCH BROTHERS PRODUCTS TO BOYCOTT:
        Angel Soft toilet paper
        Brawny paper towels
        Dixie plates, bowls, napkins and cups
        Mardi Gras napkins and towels
        Quilted Northern toilet paper
        Soft ‘n Gentle toilet paper
        Sparkle napkins
        Vanity fair napkins
        Zee napkins
        Georgia-Pacific paper products and envelopes
        Lycra
        Stainmaster Carpet
        Dense Armor Drywall and Decking
        ToughArmor Gypsum board
        Georgia pacific Plytanium Plywood
        Flexrock
        Densglass sheathing
        G/P Industrial plasters (some products used by a lot of crafters)-
        FibreStrong Rim board
        G/P Lam board
        Blue Ribbon OSB Rated Sheathing
        Blue Ribbon Sub-floor
        DryGuard Enhanced OSB
        Nautilus Wall Sheathing
        Thermostat OSB Radiant Barrier Sheathing
        Broadspan Engineered Wood Products
        XJ 85 I-Joists
        FireDefender Banded Cores
        FireDefender FS
        FireDefender Mineral Core
        Hardboard and Thin MDF including Auto Hardboard,
        Perforated Hardboard and Thin MDF
        Wood Fiberboard -
        Commercial Roof Fiberboard
        Hushboard Sound Deadening Board
        Regular Fiberboard Sheathing
        Structural Fiberboard Sheathing
        COMFOREL® fiberfill
        COOLMAX® fabric
        CORDURA® fabric
        DACRON® fiber
        POLYSHIELD® resin
        SOLARMAX® fabric
        SOMERELLE® bedding products
        STAINMASTER® carpet
        SUPPLEX® fabric
        TACTEL® fiber
        TACTESSE® carpet fiber
        TERATE® polyols
        TERATHANE® polyether glycol
        THERMOLITE® fabric
        PHENREZ® resin
        POLARGUARD® fiber and
        LYCRA® fiber

    •  Won't happen. (3+ / 0-)
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      opinionated, PorridgeGun, 0wn
      Are these GOP idiots ready....

      ...to be portrayed as the party that puts Grover Norquist, ideology, and millionaire donors over the rest of us?

      Because our side will fold, like it has every time in the recent past.

      And, by conceding on this, Dems will be giving up what they really need--to show the Repubs for the cruel bastards they are and thus take back the House in 2012.

      Sad...and a self-inflicted wound, so sadder still....

      "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." - Thomas Jefferson

      by rfall on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:35:44 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  I think they're ready for the Democrats to cave... (4+ / 0-)
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      rfall, opinionated, PorridgeGun, 0wn

      ...at which point it would be much harder to portray the GOP in this way.

      Let's hope that the GOP is betting the wrong side of this proposition.

      Tunis...Cairo...Tripoli...Wall Street

      by GreenSooner on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:36:04 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Boehner had his chance.... (0+ / 0-)

        ...and based on his response, he REALLY blew it.

        "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." --Gandhi

        by alaprst on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:39:13 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  So according to Weepy the Clown... (0+ / 0-)

          it's not a concession because it didn't have enough votes? Maybe someone should point out to Orangeglo that the shitty Bill that his disfunctional House passed has no chance of becoming law...like practically every Bill passed under his "leadership". Boner knows his days are numbered. Problem is that his Brutus Cantor still thinks that if he keeps up the Tea Potty bullshit he'll somehow get to hold that giant mallet when it looks more like the party of NO will be back in the minority after next year.

      •  Recent experience would say "no". (2+ / 0-)
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        opinionated, 0wn
        Let's hope that the GOP is betting the wrong side of this proposition.

        Dems have caved on virtually everything to date when negotiating.

        "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." - Thomas Jefferson

        by rfall on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:39:15 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  The answer... (0+ / 0-)
      to be portrayed as the party that puts Grover Norquist, ideology, and millionaire donors over the rest of us?

      is a resounding YES!

      The gop is on the wrong side of just about every issue. Public polls be damned. The gop could care less. They are accustomed to carrying water for the 1% and its getting easier every day.

      30% of the US population will vote gop no matter if a syphillitic corpse is nominated, as long as it aint a librul.

      75% of the US population is permanently impaired. That doesnt leave many logical, reasonable people to reach in elections.

      2012 will be the single ugliest election in the history of the planet. Sad thing is, its hardly worth the fight.

      "Seems like too many people in this country would rather be fucked by business (in many cases repeatedly) than helped by government." BF

      by A Runner on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:52:28 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  It's not like we needed more proof (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    rfall, unionboy

    that the GOP has no interest in anything resembling negotiation.  Unless of course, negotiation means they get everything they want.

    My comments are not intended to be factual statements.

    by asm121 on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:28:35 AM PST

  •  Won't it be nice when (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    NamelessGenXer

    it is Speaker Pelosi and Boehner is in his cups as Minority bozo.  

    I'm from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner Wing of the Democratic Party!

    by TomP on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:29:28 AM PST

  •  the Republicans don't have the votes for anything (0+ / 0-)

    I guess that's why they never offer any concessions.

  •  It's funny how Congress (4+ / 0-)

    can't pass a millionaire surtax when at least 70% of the American people are BEGGING for a millionaire surtax.

  •  It won't happen, because Dems are stupid. (4+ / 0-)
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    KenBee, Cartoon Peril, Sue B, 0wn
    So go on Christmas break without these tax cuts extended, without unemployment extended, beat up on them every single day of the holiday break, and make them come back and fix this.

    They are lousy at negotiating, and the Repubs know it.

    And, Dem's care about people, and don't want to see people hurt by the Repubs intransigence.  What Dems don't get is that, while it may be painful in the short term, in the long run staring down the Repubs is the best thing that they could do for the 99%.

    "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." - Thomas Jefferson

    by rfall on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:33:35 AM PST

    •  yep, this: (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Sue B
      Dem's care about people
      and unfortunately that was why they/we elected them
      in the long run staring down the Repubs is the best thing that they could do for the 99%.

      Stare at him til he cries Orange tears.

      Ok, I edited out 'if'

      ..squinting all the while in the glare of a culture that radiates ultraviolet consumerism and infrared celebrity...Russell Brand

      by KenBee on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:39:54 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Staring down might interfere with Dems chances (0+ / 0-)

      in 2012, so no, thats not an option.

      For Dem reps, its balls optional.

      "Seems like too many people in this country would rather be fucked by business (in many cases repeatedly) than helped by government." BF

      by A Runner on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:44:37 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  They have been pretty good lately (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Minnesota Deb

      They see OWS and know they have the majorities support. Lets give them a chance to let this play out before jumping all over them.

  •  'Orange tinteed fuck.."! (4+ / 0-)
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    rfall, dewtx, henrythefifth, Supavash

    language dear, language!

    Heehee, love it.

    ..squinting all the while in the glare of a culture that radiates ultraviolet consumerism and infrared celebrity...Russell Brand

    by KenBee on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:35:31 AM PST

  •  Oh my goodness. I am soooo surprised by (6+ / 0-)

    Boner's response.  Who would have predicted such a response from the GOP?
    ^^^^^^ snarkety snark snark snark^^^^^^^^^

    Let's put the not-a-concession back.  Millionaires live and drive and work and shop and drink water and breathe and go to hospitals and take medicines developed using federal research funds and send their children to school here and rely on workers trained in public schools, too.  The benefit possibly more than the rest of us from the US's commitment to "protecting our interests at the point of a gun."  They need to be willing to chip in for what they benefit from just like the rest of us do.  Enough with the self-centered selfish, superior BS.

    "On their backs were vermiculate patterns that were maps of the world in its becoming. Maps...of a thing which could not be put back. Not be made right again."

    by middleagedhousewife on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:35:51 AM PST

  •  "orange-tinted fuck that leads the nihilists" (5+ / 0-)
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    rfall, KenBee, here4tehbeer, dewtx, Supavash

    pretty well sums up Boehner's accomplishments as House leader to date... it's also a Top Comment-worthy name for Ohio's Shame.

  •  We'd have the votes if it was majority rule. (1+ / 0-)
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    PorridgeGun

    Harry Reid needs to destroy the filibuster. Can you believe he used to be a boxer? WTF did he box - dust bunnies?

  •  the choice you suggest Boehner > > (1+ / 0-)
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    middleagedhousewife

    is offered seems super to me; which unpleasant option will he go for?

    is he one who trumpets the US as an example of great democracy?  Where majority doesn't rule.........?

  •  Sore Losers (7+ / 0-)

     When Clinton was in the GOP had a never ending witch hunt to destroy him.

    They thought they had a lock on the presidency.

    Fast forward Obama with really no personal scandals or shady business dealings to work with.

    The only thing they got is to try to prolong the agony in hopes the public will blame Obama. Even if it means actually hurting the country.

    Never has the truth been so clear.

  •  Congressional Ds, please don't strain your back (4+ / 0-)

    hosting the white flag.

    You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

    by Cartoon Peril on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:38:13 AM PST

  •  Interesting (1+ / 0-)
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    PorridgeGun

    How the republicans are never expected to make "concessions", isn't it?

    Do Pavlov's dogs chase Schroedinger's cat?

    by corwin on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:38:26 AM PST

  •  Shorter (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    A Runner, asm121, DawnN

    John Boehner: "We do not consider the package of money found on our doorstep to be a proper ransom, since it was always going to be put there in any case, and therefore we had no choice but to go ahead and shoot the hostage as planned."

    -- Stu

  •  GOP makes chumps of Dems yet again. How many (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Lefty Coaster, PorridgeGun, 0wn, Supavash

    times does Reid and/or Obama have to be made a fool of before we take the gloves off?  I'm really not understanding Dems inability to learn.  If Dems were a Pavlovian dog they would NEVER salivate.

  •  I don't think anyone disagree that Pugs need to go (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Supavash

    I think we're all aprehensive because we saw what happened the last time we had a Dem coalition: they acted just like the republicans.

    Our frustration is really with the complete lack of competence we have in Democrats to govern effectively.  Republicans refuse to govern effectively as a core value.  Us, we fall over ourselves to court big money and conservatives as soon as we're given control.

    If I had any belief at all that Dems would do what they're supposed to I'd be much less numb to the repeated capitulations on our part and obstructionism on theirs.

  •  At this point (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    dinotrac, 0wn

    I've decided that Congress doing nothing is a good thing.

    Since, if Congress DOES pass anything, it's bound to be terrible.

    27, white male, TX-26 (current), TN-07 (originally), liberal-leaning independent

    by TDDVandy on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:40:03 AM PST

  •  gopchestthumping+Demseternallycaving+ (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Sue B, DawnN

    acomplicitmedia=wearesofucked.

    "Seems like too many people in this country would rather be fucked by business (in many cases repeatedly) than helped by government." BF

    by A Runner on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:40:35 AM PST

  •  Problem is Boehner's Right! (3+ / 0-)
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    dinotrac, Lefty Coaster, 0wn

    Look, both parties are controlled by the super rich.  The only reason that Obama and the Democarats proposes tax increase on the super rich is that they know the GOP House will never approve them.  If the Democrats were serious about raising taxes on the super rich, then don't you think they would have at least ended the Bush tax cuts for the super rich last year when they controlled both the House and Senate?

    This is just Kabuki theater by the Democrats.  Boehner's may be a repugnant orange asshole, but here, he's right.            

    •  Totally disagree, tell us how... (0+ / 0-)

      tax cuts for the rich would have been ended last year with the freakin' filibuster and assholes like Lieberman.

      “I trust in God, but God wants to see us help ourselves by putting people back to work.” President Obama 11/2/11

      by BarackStarObama on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:46:30 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  That's EXACTLY Boehner's Point! (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        0wn

        The Dems wouldn't even let the Bush tax cuts expire when they controlled both the House and Senate last year, so why the Hell should Boehner, or anyone else for that matter, now believe the Dems when they claim they really want to raise taxes on the super rich?

        BTW-You are completely wrong with your thinking about the Bush tax cuts.  The tax cuts were to expire in 2010 because, just like Obama's health insurance law, they were passed using the Senate's reconciliation procedures.

        To extend the tax cuts for the super rich, the Democratic House and Senate needed to pass legislation, and the President needed to sign that legislation.  A fillibuster, or Presidential veto, would have stopped the legislation, and the cuts would have expired as planned.

        The fact that a Democratic Party controlled House and Senate passed the tax-cuts for the super-rich, and a Democratic Party President signed the tax-cuts for the super rich into law last year proves Boehner's point.  

    •  Democrats had control of the Senate (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Egalitare

      for a total of 6 months, and that ended Feb 4, 2010.

      The Bush tax cuts were set to expire at the end of 2010.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/...

      •  You Are Being Silly (0+ / 0-)

        First off, the U.S. Senate has had a Democratic majority for all of Obama's term in office.  That includes up to today.  Your claim that it was only for 6 months in 2009-10 is wrong.

        Second, as the extension was legislation that needed to pass the Senate, then a minority could have fillibustered the tax cuts for millionares legislation.  The Dems had 59 seats, so the reality is 40 of them could have stopped the extension of the tax cuts for the super rich bill.  

        The fact that the Democrats passed, and Obama signed the legislation approving tax cuts for the super rich in December of 2010 shows the Dems are full of shit now when they say they want to increase taxes on the super rich.  Boehner is right.      

        •  Hey (0+ / 0-)

          they did cave.  

          But the issue is the FACT that Dems did not have 'control' of the Senate.  Without 60, there is no control.

          I like accuracy, and it's a righty meme that 'Democrats have had control of the Congress for 2 years'.

          That's the point I am making.

          A lot got done in 2009 when we did have 60 in the Senate.

  •  perhaps (0+ / 0-)

    the democrats knew that would happen which is why they offered what boner calls a non-concession.

    nah.  i don't think they consider things that far ahead.

    hope springs eternal and DAMN is she getting tired!

    by alguien on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:43:31 AM PST

  •  Hooray, no 2% for the 1%... (1+ / 0-)
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    Lefty Coaster

    Another Pluto-Republican victory!!!!

    The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected.

    by Agent Orange on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:43:36 AM PST

  •  The "Have Mores" can breathe (1+ / 0-)
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    Lefty Coaster

    yet another sigh of relief!

    It's The SCOTUS, Stupid!

    by kitebro on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:44:01 AM PST

  •  This is exactly why people give up on Obama et al (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Lefty Coaster

    I try to stay positive, but:

    http://www.theamericanhuman.com/...

    Calvin

  •  Obama is a slow learner Why more pre-concessions? (2+ / 0-)
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    0wn, Supavash

    After all the times Obama has been burned by the GOP after making  pre-concessions he should know better by now.

    Gasoline made from the tar sands gives a Toyota Prius the same impact on climate as a Hummer using gasoline made from oil. ~ Al Gore

    by Lefty Coaster on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:45:51 AM PST

  •  No he doesn't. (0+ / 0-)
    So the orange-tinted fuck that leads the nihilists gets to say what is and what isn't a concession. Fine.

    And it is most certainly not 'fine.'

    Sorry Joan, this is the typical pattern of Democratic surrender: Express anger at a Republican proposal or position - maybe even mock it a bit - but then accept the Republican assertion as the new reality.

    John Boehner doesn't get to redefine the word 'concession.' To accept that he does is ludicrous, even if you then continue to spell out a plan for dealing with that misplaced acceptance.

    Things like 'IOKIYAR' and 'DFH' also fit this pattern.

    Cut it out.

    Please don't call yourself a "DFH." It's not helpful.

    by VictorLaszlo on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:46:13 AM PST

  •  that's what they get , indeed.. (0+ / 0-)

    anyone think they'll expire the Bush tax cuts next year???

    You don't bargain down from a strong position!!!

    "In the depth of winter I finally learned that there was in me an invincible summer."- Albert Camus

    by valadon on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:47:39 AM PST

  •  Who could've predicted? nt (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    0wn

    “In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.” Terry Pratchett

    by 420 forever on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:47:48 AM PST

  •  So who are you addressing this to: (0+ / 0-)

    So go on Christmas break without these tax cuts extended, without unemployment extended, beat up on them every single day of the holiday break, and make them come back and fix this.

    Those stalward democrats who never fail to stand up for something?

    The banks have a stranglehold on the political process. Mike Whitney

    by dfarrah on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:47:58 AM PST

  •  i f-ing hate these people (0+ / 0-)

    ...they need to stop playing petty, petulant politics with people's lives and our nation's future.

    i'm sick of it.

    "An inglorious peace is better than a dishonorable war." -Mark Twain

    by humanistique on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:50:36 AM PST

  •  Quit dealing with those assholes! (2+ / 0-)
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    PorridgeGun, 0wn

    Jesus Christ! What is it going to take to get through to you guys. Quit wasting your time.
    Just put your best policy out there and let them vote on it.
    Screw them.
    JUST STOP It!

  •  Boehner is right (2+ / 0-)
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    Sue B, Supavash

    This isn't a cave since this was never going to happen. I think the democrats just need to walk away and tell the country the republicans are unreasonable and want to screw the middle class for a payroll cut.
    Just walk away and tell the country you make the decision next year.

  •  Who gives a damn what someone... (0+ / 0-)

    says counts or not, extend the payroll tax cuts and UI!

    “I trust in God, but God wants to see us help ourselves by putting people back to work.” President Obama 11/2/11

    by BarackStarObama on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:55:48 AM PST

  •  Democratic Party Base is Conservative Moderates. (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    0wn

    That's who they're pitching to.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:56:02 AM PST

  •  Amen, Joan. We need not save the GOP from itself. (0+ / 0-)

    As you say:

    So go on Christmas break without these tax cuts extended, without unemployment extended, beat up on them every single day of the holiday break, and make them come back and fix this.

    We should stop with the argument over the Continuing Resolution. If it comes to that, let the GOP shut the government down by making the whole thing more complex and political. That's the choice they want to force; it's not us, nor our choice.

    The more we help the GOP muddle the waters, the more we hurt ourselves and the public.

    Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

    by TRPChicago on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:56:08 AM PST

  •  Still yawning with surprise.... (1+ / 0-)
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    0wn
    John Boehner: Dropping the millionaire's surtax doesn't count as a concession

    It's as if Democrats secretly WANTED to get rid of the surtax and get nothing in return.

    Now why would anyone think such a thing based on their based behavior?

    Reform the Democratic Party. We've been lulled to sleep by false promises of hope from a corporatist cabal for too long.

    by masswaster on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 11:59:07 AM PST

  •  Perhaps with more days like this one (0+ / 0-)

    folks around here will begin to understand that Dem politics isnt about helping people or doing the right thing.

    Change your rose colored glasses. Its about getting reelected. Period.

    Dems believe they can be reelected by being just slightly less terrible than the goopers.

    Why do Dems do this?

    Because it works.

    "Seems like too many people in this country would rather be fucked by business (in many cases repeatedly) than helped by government." BF

    by A Runner on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 12:00:12 PM PST

  •  People care about revenu generation, not pipelines (1+ / 0-)
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    yorkiedoglover

    The Democratic party and our President are targeting the "moderates" right now. They have the public support and are going to keep reminding the public how fucking crazy the GOP is. I am sure they knew that the GOP wasn't going to accept the "concession", they tried to outmaneuver the Democrats and it blew up in their face (again).

    The GOP is in such shit shape. We cannot let these fucks continue this. This upcoming election is going to be even more important than the one that elected our President (the first time).

  •  Crybaby Boehner LIES (1+ / 0-)
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    Once again, Crybaby Boehner is lying in his all-too-clever redefinition of the word "concessions."

    The fact is that the American people -- the ones he pretends to be listening to -- have demanded, in poll after poll, in ever-louder, ever-angrier voices, that the obscenely wealthy must pay more taxes.  The American people -- the ones he supposedly represents -- have insisted that the obscenely wealthy must pay their "fair share."  

    But Crybaby Boehner pretends that the Democrats aren't conceding anything, even though the vast majority of the American people count are far greater in number than the pathetically small number of individuals he is fighting for.  

    Mr. Boehner is a liar, who thinks he can get away with his fabrications.  But the American people are onto his scam, even if the various members of the all-too-complicit press to whom he makes his remarks fail to do their duty in asking follow-up questions and reporting the full story.  

  •  Joan don't hold back (0+ / 0-)

    tell us how you really feel.

    the orange-tinted fuck that leads the nihilists

    It is bad for your heart to hold things in!

    Reporting from Tea Bagger occupied America

    by DrJohnB on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 12:34:12 PM PST

  •  By that reasoning, (1+ / 0-)
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    dropping Keystone won't count either since they don't have the votes to pass in Senate or to override a veto.

    I don't know what Brownbacking is, but I sure wouldn't explain it to my mother. Thanks #govblowsalot.

    by AZphilosopher on Thu Dec 15, 2011 at 12:34:53 PM PST

  •  The response to that needs to be... (0+ / 0-)

    "If it isn't a concession, then it is no longer on the table.  NO deal that does not include a tax on millionaires will be considered from now on."

    And make that stick - if that means that the government shuts down, so be it...and make sure that the news narrative blames the Republicans.

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