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This is the horrible lead in I heard on the local news tonight! The county Health and Human Services is OFFERING to be a pilot program for this nonsense. There is a very high percentage of residents on welfare here. Unfortunately for them, one of their number was arrested on drug charges and used his benefits card as an ID.
Drug Test Welfare Recipients?
Be wary of reading the comments at the link, many of them are ranting about " 'there' hard earned money" being spent on drugs, blah, blah, blah.(Misspelled in original, of course.)
I think living in this redness has helped me lean even more to the left, I could end up as a socialist.
I'll jump over the orange snowbank.

By some coincidence, my husband had a random drug test this very morning, requested by his union, so he could be on the "drug free worker" available for work list. I'm not totally opposed to the random test, though I'm not very comfortable with the idea either.  I suppose a poor person could choose to go hungry instead of a drug test, so it's not really mandatory, right? OK, I'll quit the snark.
  Let's start with the invasion of privacy, illegal search issues of mandatory drug testing, then we can move on to who is going to pay for the tests? Who owns those testing centers? What other nuggets can I include in my letter to the editor?
 

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  •  Tip Jar (6+ / 0-)

    Equal sacrifice, not equal giving

    by 4mygirls on Tue Dec 20, 2011 at 06:59:18 PM PST

  •  piss tests are bs (2+ / 0-)

    seriously the only thing they catch is weed which no one really cares about anyways.  

    oh no, thc makes people happy! heaven forbid! ban it!

    let's deny people something that could be medically beneficial because others use it recreationally!

    •  I wondered just what they test for. (2+ / 0-)
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      Booze would seem more harmful to me, they don't care about that it seems.

      Equal sacrifice, not equal giving

      by 4mygirls on Tue Dec 20, 2011 at 07:19:47 PM PST

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    •  and easily beaten (0+ / 0-)

      Plus, whose to say it matters if you test hot.  I know I did, but they said I passed and sent me back to work.  Of course, I am not a drooling idiot who couldn't show up on time or do my job efficiently.  As far as I can figure, it's ultimately about cash and liability.  You fuck up with a forklift, do some major property damage, and the company has a random testing policy, then they can still claim it on their insurance and avoid extended liability issues.  Not to mention lower insurance premiums all the way around.

  •  In liberal Portland (4+ / 0-)

    The cops where out in force, which is to say six cops and three cars, at Westgate transit center. For those who do not know Portland, it is a major transit center on the East side with access to three different MAX trains and at least a half dozen bus lines. I pass through there every day.

    During rush hour for at least a couple of weeks they were there with the dogs checking fares and letting the dogs sniff. Every week day while I stood there at around 5:30 p.m., they found at least one person to arrest.

    I don't know why they arrested the people, maybe it was outstanding warrants. But I thought it was fucked up. What you are going to arrest people who have jobs because they have a gram of pot?

    Where I work they have a policy that says they can drug test us if they ask, but I will tell you that they will lose more than half their programmers if they do. Programmers are at a premium here in the Northwest right now, and they will not do it. We have a problem keeping quality programmers as it is.

    I guess the point I want to make is probable cause. If you  don't have any reason to suspect someone of drug use, should you really be going out of your way to ruin their lives?

    What does "secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures" even mean?

    The slippery slope my friends, the slippery slope.

    It is possible to read the history of this country as one long struggle to extend the liberties established in our Constitution to everyone in America. - Molly Ivins

    by se portland on Tue Dec 20, 2011 at 07:45:20 PM PST

  •  I'd laugh if they started that here. (0+ / 0-)

    I'd test positive for opiates and amphetamines.

    Quite legally prescribed, and monitored by doctors and psychiatrist.

    I am not the only welfare recipient who is taking the legal versions of things, just to gum matters up.

    When you come to find how essential the comfort of a well-kept home is to the bodily strength and good conditions, to a sound mind and spirit, and useful days, you will reverence the good housekeeper as I do above artist or poet, beauty or genius.

    by Alexandra Lynch on Tue Dec 20, 2011 at 11:48:29 PM PST

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