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Rep. Paul Ryan (Jason Reed/Reuters)

The opposition to the STOP Online Piracy Act (SOPA), and its companion bill in the Senate, Protect IP Act (PIPA), is growing not just among tech companies and journalistic trade associations, but on the Hill, too. And it's bipartisan. Here's Rep. Paul Ryan, (R-WI), chairman of the House Budget Committee.
The internet is one of the most magnificent expressions of freedom and free enterprise in history. It should stay that way. While H.R. 3261, the Stop Online Piracy Act, attempts to address a legitimate problem, I believe it creates the precedent and possibility for undue regulation, censorship and legal abuse. I do not support H.R. 3261 in its current form and will oppose the legislation should it come before the full House.

Ryan's committee doesn't have jurisdiction, but his chairmanship of it gives him a degree of power in House leadership, so it's a pretty important defection on the bill. But it's also important in demonstrating that opposition to the bill is indeed bipartisan, particularly since Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has been harping on its bipartisan support as a reason to rush it to the Senate floor.

If you haven't yet contacted your representative or senators about this legislation, please do. You can use this form to send an e-mail to your representative, and this one to contact your Senators. This is one of those rare occasions in which it doesn't matter if you're represented by a Democrat or Republican—opposition to this one is widespread and bipartisan and needs to grow.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 09:24 AM PST.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (29+ / 0-)

    "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

    by Joan McCarter on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 09:24:05 AM PST

  •  You have the links swapped (5+ / 0-)
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    The Rep link goes to the Senate and vice-versa.

  •  Paul Ryan more Democratic than Reid.. (7+ / 0-)

    My God, This must be a sign of the Apocalypse..

  •  Even a stopped clock... (7+ / 0-)

    Can be right once a day.  (I'm assuming that Ryan is an annoying blinking digital that reads in military time.)

    One of these days, I'm gonna learn that I'm only really good at convincing people when I'm being a wiseass. Reviewtopia.net

    by detroitmechworks on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 09:29:03 AM PST

  •  Ryan thinks he's going to lose his job (13+ / 0-)

    And he may well be exactly right.

    Hopefully it will take more than throwing the dog this bone to keep him employed.

    Killing jobs is what Mitt does. It's who he is. 'Jobkiller' should be on his business card.

    by thenekkidtruth on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 09:33:45 AM PST

  •  wow, Eddie Munster grows up (7+ / 0-)

    Präsidentenelf-maßschach; Warning-Some Snark Above"Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) "Sciant terra viam monstrare."

    by annieli on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 09:37:51 AM PST

  •  You might want to fix the typo in your first line (4+ / 0-)
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    ...though "STOP Online Privacy" is probably closer to the actual intent of the bill...

    Inside of me are two dogs. One is mean and evil. The other is gentle and good. The two dogs fight all the time. Which dog wins? The one I feed the most.

    by bakeneko on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 09:51:52 AM PST

  •  Just not sure (3+ / 0-)
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    I can EVER be on the side of Paul Ryan.  Even when he's right.  May just have to abstain on this one.

    Still enjoying my stimulus package.

    by Kevvboy on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:03:19 AM PST

  •  Wonder what money making reason is really (6+ / 0-)

    Why Ryan is against this...

    Must say though, when you have a range of Ron Paul and Paul Ryan to Al Gore against it and people like Franken for it...reminds me alot of the swipe fee debate that pitted banks vs retailers.

    Hey you, dont tell me theres no hope at all Together we stand, divided we fall.

    by marcvstraianvs on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:04:14 AM PST

    •  This seems like an issue where you can (5+ / 0-)
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      check contribution receipts and see where the supporters lie.  

    •  IP issues have long tended to blur party lines... (0+ / 0-)

      ...and this seems to be no exception.

      That's been true back to the days of the Betamax lawsuit, when the consumer electronics companies and Hollywood were both trying to get legislation through congress to protect their respective (and conflicting) interests.  Same thing with the record companies during the same era -- who were trying to get a blank tape tax imposed, and were being bought by the consumer electronics companies.  Politicians in both parties could be found on either side on these issues, depending on which industries they chose to support (or were supported by).

      Political Compass: -6.75, -3.08

      by TexasTom on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:37:56 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Typo in first line? (4+ / 0-)
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    STOP Online Privacy Act (SOPA)?

    from a bright young conservative: “I’m watching my first GOP debate…and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!”

    by Catte Nappe on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:06:12 AM PST

  •  Good. (5+ / 0-)
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    side pocket, r2did2, bythesea, AoT, Matt Z

    I'll accept allies wherever I can get them.

    No "purity" test required.

  •  Gearing up for 2016, I see! nt (0+ / 0-)

    A house divided against itself cannot stand. Abraham Lincoln

    by YoungArizonaLiberal on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:08:14 AM PST

  •  I don't think I've ever agreed with Ryan before (5+ / 0-)
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    on anything.

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:13:34 AM PST

  •  He's not stupid (0+ / 0-)

    That's basically what it comes down to, it's oppose this and avoid the inevitable wrath, or be a complete mouthbreather and support this and end your political career.

    Leftist, and proud.

    by fgsfds on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:13:40 AM PST

    •  And, so, whazzup with Reid? (3+ / 0-)
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      N/T

      - If you don't like gay marriage, blame straight people. They're the ones who keep having gay babies.

      by r2did2 on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:16:58 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Chris Dodd (2+ / 0-)
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        Is the lead lobbyist for the Motion Pictures Association...and Hollywood has poured money into Reid's campaigns for years.  This one is actually pretty easy to figure out who supports what why...donors and friends.

        Sen. Franken....product of entertainment.  Has friends in the industry.  For SOPA.

        Rep. Polis....product of the internet.  Friends in industry.  Against SOPA.

        Sen. Reid....Chris Dodd is a big one with him, and a number of other supporters I presume.

        Hey you, dont tell me theres no hope at all Together we stand, divided we fall.

        by marcvstraianvs on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:24:55 AM PST

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        •  Can we "vote 'em all out" ???? (2+ / 0-)
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          Where can I find a genie bottle so that one of my wishes is to just get EVERY one of our current "leaders" in D.C. out of office and start anew, somehow?

          I'm a pretty solid democrat, but I'm not so sure that the whole bunch up there isn't just totally and absolutely crooked.

          Our country deserves better than what we have leading us.

          - If you don't like gay marriage, blame straight people. They're the ones who keep having gay babies.

          by r2did2 on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:30:13 AM PST

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  •  Good on him (2+ / 0-)
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    Broken clocks and all that...

  •  Where does Obama stand? (0+ / 0-)

    Considering his civil liberties record, I seriously doubt he would veto it. But I don't know.

    "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

    by shmuelman on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:18:56 AM PST

  •  Dead wrong on Medicare but, (1+ / 0-)
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    right on this one!

  •  You know we've jumped the shark when.... (2+ / 0-)
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    the odious Paul Ryan actually takes Progressives' side against a bill, a bill which would have to be approved by a Dem Senate and a Dem President.

    Amazing how this bill seems to be alive and kicking, isn't it?

    Perhaps the GOP is realizing Obama has pushed them so far right they better start pushing left on some issues or they're going over the edge.

    And that, in a nutshell, is extremely sad.

    What's Obama said about the bill?  Wait.  Don't tell me.  Let me guess:  He has "reservations" and the bill "isn't perfect" but he'll sign it anyway?

    What's Harry Reid said about the bill?

    Dem House Leaders?

    What a sad state of affairs that a GOP ass clown makes front page on DKOS for opposing a draconian industry-friendly bill.

    Rethuglicans will always be worse than Obama. But damn, did Obama have to set the bar so high?

    by Johnathan Ivan on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:21:14 AM PST

    •  This along with the (2+ / 0-)
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      Swipe Fee Legislation earlier this session is a lobbyist's dream.  Both sides, the entertainment and media industry and technology companies are pumping big money into this....and in all honesty the fact Chris Dodd was made MPAA's lead lobbyist tells me this was somewhat planned in coming.

      Hey you, dont tell me theres no hope at all Together we stand, divided we fall.

      by marcvstraianvs on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:28:32 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Chris Dodd? I thought he was a Dem? n/t (0+ / 0-)

        You know it's a good day when: Obama makes it the entire day without having to appoint yet another Savvy Bankster Businessman to a position of power and influence.

        by Johnathan Ivan on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:39:47 AM PST

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        •  He is... (1+ / 0-)
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          Represented Connecticut for decades.  Thing people don't realize (but thankfully are starting to) is that donors have a much more powerful sway on policy decisions than voters think.  This is a classic example of it, which is why you have Democrats/Republicans supporting SOPA and Democrats/Republicans against SOPA.  It's much more of a support your donors position than a statement of political ideology.

          Hey you, dont tell me theres no hope at all Together we stand, divided we fall.

          by marcvstraianvs on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:44:03 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

    •  Is there really a progressive side to this? (2+ / 0-)
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      Seems like from the public at large political affiliation matter little with regard to this bill - everyone hates it.  And Congress is finding that out the hard way.

    •  It isn't just progressives that are against this (6+ / 0-)

      Redstate is throwing a lot of effort behind opposing this bill.  This is what real bipartisanship looks like.

      There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

      by AoT on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:31:24 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  If Red State is against it... and Red State hates (1+ / 0-)
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        Dems... then shouldn't we be for it?

        One thing I've learned since 2008 and I credit Obama with:

        It's increasingly difficult to have any confidence in political labels these days.

        You know it's a good day when: Obama makes it the entire day without having to appoint yet another Savvy Bankster Businessman to a position of power and influence.

        by Johnathan Ivan on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:41:42 AM PST

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    •  Well... (1+ / 0-)
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      You know we've jumped the shark when the odious Paul Ryan actually takes Progressives' side against a bill, a bill which would have to be approved by a Dem Senate and a Dem President.

      This goes beyond party affiliation.  Chris Dodd the the odious one in this debate because HE is the person behind this POS legislation.  Yes, former Dem Senator Chris Dodd, now paid big money by the MPAA to lobby congress to censor all us regardless of party.

      And when it comes down to it. SOPA is more odious than Paul Ryan in that SOPA is legalized censorship and blatant anti-First Amendment.  

      So,  this is something that conservatives, moderates, and progressives are opposed to.  So it would be prudent for all of us to align regardless of our party affiliation, and stop Chris Dodd and the MPAA from pushing through this odious bill.

      "No man born with a living soul can be working for the clampdown" The Clash

      by Calee4nia on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 12:44:32 PM PST

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      •  I like that sentiment.... but they (the odious (0+ / 0-)

        members of Congress) know that in the end...

        The GOP will trout out the spectre of "Socialism", "Gays", "Family Values" -- and their base will dutifully cast a vote for them.

        The Dems will trout out "You don't want the scare Rethuglican Monster to win, now DO YOU?"  And the base will dutifully cast a vote for them.

        At times I get the sinking feeling that the 1% play us for fools and support both parties in the charade that each party plays in which things would be just grand if not for the other party.

        Shit.  I'm late.  Intermission is over... I've got to get back to the Kabuki Theater of the Absurd to find out how the next act is going to play out!  I can't wait.  Kabuki always leaves one breathless, you never know if something different might pop up.

        You know it's a good day when: Obama makes it the entire day without having to appoint yet another Savvy Bankster Businessman to a position of power and influence.

        by Johnathan Ivan on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 03:09:32 PM PST

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  •  It was probably inevitable (3+ / 0-)
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    Does ANY significant voting bloc actually support this bill?Seems like everyone, right, left and center opposes it.  I think Congress just assumed since most folks initially didn't understand/know about it they could ram this through with little problem.  Now all of a sudden that rock solid support for this bill is withering away FAST with both parties now that the public is learning about it.

  •  Promoting a Republican's stance on an issue? (2+ / 0-)
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    Is that allowed?

    "Thus, what is of supreme importance in war is to attack the enemy's strategy." Sun Tzu

    by gila on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:35:02 AM PST

  •  The Wyden connection here seems strong.. (4+ / 0-)
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    I am curious to find out if Ryan and Wyden made a deal to support each other's legislation.

    Ryan has his new "End Medicare as we know it" plan out that saw Wyden's support.

    Wyden already has a plan out that rivals SOPA/PIPA that he has been pushing strongly.

    Hrm.  Curious.

    •  Wyden has always advocated ending public HC (0+ / 0-)

      He's always been callign for an end up public healthcare programs.  To be fair when his own HC bill has always proposed is eliminating employer-based HC altogether (I think Medicare too) and moving everyone to regulated exchanges with subsidies but no public plan of any kind.  

      His vision for HCR has some good but some REALLY bad ideas.  The regulations and exchanges are nice and for the most part were included in the Affordable Healthcare Act that did pass.  Eliminating employer-based HC is also a good idea, but as expected was never seriously considered with Obama's HCR because of feared public backlash since it actually would have a big impact on health plans for most people.  The really bad part of Wyden's plan has always been his willingness to dismantle the public health insurance plans.  How does he think cost control will happen with strictly private plans "competing"?

  •  Gah! So now I have to follow my own advice and (0+ / 0-)

    write a thank you letter to Ryan?  Argh!

    Well, at least he got one thing right sort of.

    202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

    by cany on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:46:45 AM PST

  •  Hrmmmm (0+ / 0-)

    Okay, not to start a pie fight,

    but would anyone here now say we want to prop up Paul Ryan as a candidate for . . . anything because he agrees with us on this?

    Or that his voice is sorely needed on this issue so we'll ignore his odious overall world view?

    Just sayin'

    Why is it that a 3% tax increase for the wealthy is considered "socialism" and an 8% wage cut for the middle class is "doing your part"? MartyM

    by delphine on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:50:16 AM PST

    •  Who is ignoring their overall odious world view? (2+ / 0-)
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      "Thus, what is of supreme importance in war is to attack the enemy's strategy." Sun Tzu

      by gila on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 10:52:43 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  A failed attempt (0+ / 0-)

        at jokingly equating this situation with the whole "Ron Paul should stay in the race/be listened to/etc., because he agrees with us on the NDAA.

        sorry.

        Why is it that a 3% tax increase for the wealthy is considered "socialism" and an 8% wage cut for the middle class is "doing your part"? MartyM

        by delphine on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 08:33:10 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  Is this a democracy? (0+ / 0-)

      The point of her article is that SOPA is a terrible proposal, and it has bipartisan opposition.  Her call to action is this:

      If you haven't yet contacted your representative or senators about this legislation, please do. You can use this form to send an e-mail to your representative, and this one to contact your Senators. This is one of those rare occasions in which it doesn't matter if you're represented by a Democrat or Republican—opposition to this one is widespread and bipartisan and needs to grow.

      Some of us here are represented by Republicans, others by Democrats.  Those who are represented by the former have an additional point they can add when they contact their representatives by indicating that GOP reps such as Ryan and Issa are against SOPA.  It shows that opposition to SOPA is not limited to party.

      "No man born with a living soul can be working for the clampdown" The Clash

      by Calee4nia on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 01:02:59 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Stop Online Privacy? Or Piracy? (0+ / 0-)
    The opposition to the STOP Online Privacy Act

    "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

    by eXtina on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 11:38:24 AM PST

  •  Now I'm confused. (2+ / 0-)
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    Doesn't the Ron Paul rule apply here?

    Have you thoroughly vetted Paul Ryan's motivation for opposing SOPA?

    Pretty slippery slope here, Joan. My understanding is that we kossacks should only discuss policy positions in a sterile vacuum - any reference to the fact that a Republican evil doer supports the position is, apparently, verboten.

  •  Oh crap, now we got diarists supporting (0+ / 0-)

    Ryan here.

     /snark

    That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

    by enhydra lutris on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 06:22:57 PM PST

  •  This S$@^ was dead on arrival (0+ / 0-)

    I'm not saying people don't need to make there voices heard on net neutrality issues, because they do.  But there was little to no chance this could get through congress, and even if it did that wouldn't be the last word.  The US gov. doesn't have the bureaucracy to  implement these regulations, and they sure don't have the support from tech companies.

    What makes you think they could implement these procedures?  The internet isn't exactly like not issuing non-traditional marriage licenses.  It's more like a marijuana regulation or gambling regulation.    

    It is anti civil rights.  It is anti states rights.  This would be paramount to giving the foxes control of the hen house and everybody knows it, even Republicans.

    This is one of the few times that the Right and the Left agree.  There was never a chance that this would pass and "stand the test of time."

    I'm not saying it couldn't pass, because it most definitely could have.  

    If it had passed it would have caused a revolt in the Democratic and Republican parties and people would have run against it.

    What it seems to me is that both parties are starting realized that the general public are actually paying attention to legislation.  You are going to see people from both parties are going to back away from their support of these policies.

    Oh ya, you forget the whole IT industry that could "Shut this shit down."  The proposals for these laws aren't new.  They've been being proposed for more than a decade.  For those of you who don't remember the net back then it was more controversial than it is now.  It was a time when the traditional media began seeing it's first challenges in modern history.  

    Big corporations have been fighting this fight for a long time.  This is nothing new.They have been intruding these laws for quite some time.  The only thing different with this law is that for some reason consumers and Washington took this one seriously.  I'm not sure which one I'm more socked at the ATT and Comcast lobbyist or the normal people.  The corporations have finally managed to consolidate support or normal people have actually woken up to this shit.  

    I promise this fight is not new, and I'm not taking anything away from this diary or anybody that has joined the fight.  What I'm say the resistance is bigger than most of the general (non-tech) public has ever realized, and we appreciate the passion.  

    All that being said.  Calm down people.  The net is free and will remain so.  I'd compare it to China's attempt to control the net with the Great Fire Wall of China or our Fight on Terrorism.  

    At times these fights can be affective, and at times they even seem to be successful.  In the end though they just encourage a technological revolution to overpower the repression.  The internet CAN NOT BE STOPPED!  

    We live in a modern, technological, intelligent, and connected world.  Just because you don't understand how to get you word out there doesn't mean others don't, and won't get it out there.  There are always going to be things like https:/www.torproject.org , and this is only the tip of the ice burg.

    I guess what I've been trying to say the whole time is the internet is uncensorable and time will prove this.

  •  More evidence for SOPA/PIPA passage! (1+ / 0-)
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    Don't let Big Net or the script kiddies
    try to fool you with their 'death panel' lies.
    Not all pirates are Johnny Depp and Disneyfied.
    Some get shot. Halls of Montezuma and all that.

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