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Most states in the US have a sustainable totally grass fed source of tenderloins dancing and prancing around with very few people willing to help themselves to this almost free gift. I’ll get back to this line of thought later. First the recipe and photos.

I read article in the NYT about how to cook a tenderloin.  It was so simple I had to try it, and it just happened that I had a tenderloin lying around.

The recipe was simple. Luckily I can translate Westchesterish into English.

You get a tenderloin, do whatever you usually do to good meat before you barbeque or fry. Get a cast iron frying pan pretty hot with some oil in it. Cook the tenderloin so that it gets browned on all sides. Cook the hell out of it but only for a minute or two a side. Then stick the whole thing, frying pan, tenderloin, and aspirations, into the preheated to 400 degrees oven. Take it out when the inside hits 120 and let it sit a while before cutting and eating.

I think the letting it come to room temperature first is to help the meat reach a warmer internal temperature without cooking the bejesus out of the outside. Also allowing it to set after taking it out of the oven is to allow it to coninue cooking as the heat on the outside travels to the inside.

I ate it lightly salted, some of it with ground pepper, other pieces with a squeeze of lime. Ok, I squirted some fish sauce on some too, wasn't half bad, kind of like that nua nom dok the Thai eat.

This tenderloin came from a Wapati, that’s what we call the variety of red deer that lives in North America, most call them elk. Some say elk is the best tasting deer, I wouldn’t know, mule deer tastes good to me and I’ve never had white tail but I hear that’s good too.

Last week I went to Costco, tenderloin cost a hundred bucks, it was about twice as big as that elk. The difference between the tenderloin I ate and that tenderloin in Costco is that my meat used no corn to grow it, and no corn means no petroleum to make the fertilizer to grow the corn, no transport of cow to feedlot and to processor and to the store which cuts it up and puts it in those little shrink wrapped packages.

No growth hormones, no antibiotics, no slaughter house. One day that cow was eating with sixty of her best friends, she heard a loud noise, she looked around and she felt weak and fell over dead. Her falling startled her friends and they ran a couple hundred yards up the hill and continued eating. A hundred and eighty pounds of meat after it was in the freezer in all it’s neat little butcher wrapped paper packages. A forty five dollar license, a couple gallons of diesel, and a two dollar bullet. (100% copper, no lead). Less footprint than a tempe burger topped with kosher salt and that substitute for sour cream called crème fraîche that I can't even pronounce. Freedom fraiche?

Every state has some of this almost free meat. Some states on the east coast have more than they can handle, they’d love for some people to take some of the free meat. For sure there isn’t enough for everybody but so far that hasn’t been a problem most places.

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  •  Tip Jar (18+ / 0-)

    "Slip now and you'll fall the rest of your life" Derek Hersey 1957-1993

    by ban nock on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 08:13:57 PM PST

  •  Proof ? (2+ / 0-)
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    Less footprint than a tempe burger topped with kosher salt and that substitute for sour cream called crème fraîche that I can't even pronounce.

    7 billion people killing 7 billion deer ?

    http://www.onestrawrevolution.net/...

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    by indycam on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 08:20:56 PM PST

  •  So despite the fact (9+ / 0-)

    that you know my views on guns ..... Not this kind, and not in this case.

    Hunting, for meat I fully support, and always have.

    Besides, every deer you eat is one less to get in the way of my motorcycle :)

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    by twigg on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 08:22:03 PM PST

  •  Love Elk, love it! (9+ / 0-)

    Good elk beats beef every time, IMO. I'm really not crazy about deer, at least the deer I've had around here. It has a strong liver taste, "gamey" I guess. I've had it from hunters that I know would never just run a deer, one guy in particular who is outrageously good at hunting in fact. He agrees with me and thinks it's the browse we have around here.

    Elk is another story tho'

    "But much to my surprise when I opened my eyes I was the victim of the great compromise." John Prine

    by high uintas on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 08:31:10 PM PST

  •  The recipe you posted (5+ / 0-)

    is for beef. Wild meat should be cooked well done to avoid the danger of trichinosis.

    Here on the East Coast we are of the area where there may be too many deer. But it is an expensive proposition to hunt, and many hunters still come back empty-handed.

    •  I've heard about trichinosis in bears and pigs but (6+ / 0-)

      not in ungulates. I've only ever heard of rare for the good cuts and I haven't seen many keeling over. There are a ton of cooking wild meat blogs out these days.

      I'd agree about hunting not being easy, and sometimes I too come back empty handed. But every year I just go out until I get something to put in the freezer. I like walking around the woods. Many have a steep learning curve to go through just getting comfy off trail wandering around.

      I've noticed that no matter what it is people tend to spend a ton of money doing it. There's simply no need. If you have some sort of gun and a blaze orange vest and hat you're about there.

      "Slip now and you'll fall the rest of your life" Derek Hersey 1957-1993

      by ban nock on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:16:37 PM PST

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    •  Trichinosis is more likely in predators (5+ / 0-)

      like bear or wild hogs than in herd animals like elk. The parasite usually comes from eating the meat of infected animals and doesn't pass elk to elk or person to person. That's not to say the there is no danger from parasites.

      "But much to my surprise when I opened my eyes I was the victim of the great compromise." John Prine

      by high uintas on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:19:38 PM PST

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  •  Where I live, they issue deer permits but given (5+ / 0-)

    Cal Fish and Game has NO data on the current population of deer, that really should cease (and for bow hunting, too).

    36 years ago, we used to see small herds. Now if I see three together I get excited.  Sad.

    It's the effects of urbanization on the (non-native) grasslands which extend only to the edge of the forest, largely on private lands. Native grasslands in the forest (last data I saw about 10 years agoi) is a meager 0.01%.

    Whole system is completely out of balance. Then add a terrible fire... and it's worse.

    A decade back, someone shot a spotted fawn and I got the call. Good thing I didn't find the asshat who did that.

    202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

    by cany on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:14:16 PM PST

    •  I remember living in N. California in the mid 70s (5+ / 0-)

      We lived near Chico in a town called Paradise. In the evening we would have deer come right up into our yard. It's a shame to lose a resource like that.

      We in Utah go up and down with our deer population, it seems pretty healthy now. We have deer go through our yard almost every night and we are low in the valley. If we don't get more snow it's going to be rough going for all of us this summer. Water is a big deal here.

      "But much to my surprise when I opened my eyes I was the victim of the great compromise." John Prine

      by high uintas on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:23:41 PM PST

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    •  I'm not surprised California has to be about the (2+ / 0-)
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      mint julep, theatre goon

      most messed up state on wildlife. I know of only one animal that lives off deer every week of the year, and that animal is off limits and overpopulated in CA. It's like wildlife management by referendum. Yet Californians love to tell us how to manage our wildlife. Go figure.

      "Slip now and you'll fall the rest of your life" Derek Hersey 1957-1993

      by ban nock on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:25:05 PM PST

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      •  If you are going to say mountain lion, which is (1+ / 0-)
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        off limits and thankfully so, you'd be wrong.  Here, at least, our ML pop has been seriously harmed by fire and habitat loss, as well.  It is our peak predator. I know a lot about the local population, so don't even get me started:)

        202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

        by cany on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:55:29 PM PST

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  •  We have absolutely delicious whitetails around (10+ / 0-)

    here.

    In Indiana, they tend to finish themselves on field corn and windfallen fruits. It makes for lovely meat.

    And I personally find that the best combo for meatloaf is 1:1 ground venison and pork sausage, well seasoned with sage.

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    by Alexandra Lynch on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:42:21 PM PST

  •  I like venison a lot, elk not so much. (8+ / 0-)

    There are some interesting names for the various species of deer in the Americas and Europe.

    Moose = North America
    Palmetto type antlers (Think Bullwinkle)
    Elk=North America
    More like cows than deer, males (Bull) have heavy mane on neck (can look like dredlocks in summer!), thick neck and cow-shaped heads.
    Red Deer=Europe
    Same characteristics as the American Elk (you can really see the similarity to a cow in this head shot)
    Whitetail Deer=North America
    Notice the shape of the head is considerably different from the Moose and Elk, also the configuration of the body is lighter everywhere from chest to neck to pelvis.

    Mule Deer=North America
    A bit heavier than Whitetail Deer.


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    by Angie in WA State on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 11:22:57 PM PST

  •  elk is very tasty (1+ / 0-)
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    but hardly cheap.  Even assuming you get lucky and draw an elk tag, unless you are already outfitted like Grizzly Adams, hunting is expensive, as is the cost to have the meat processed and packed.  Around here, CWD is also a concern.  Chronic wasting disease is the elk equivalent of mad cow.  Not something you really want to risk.

    "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Goethe

    by jlynne on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 11:31:30 PM PST

    •  Hunting pays for itself over time (4+ / 0-)

      It is an investment to start hunting, but if you're frugal as Ban Nock says, it will pay for itself over time.   There is a saying from a well-known outdoorsman:  "buying one good gun and learning to shoot it well is a smart thing to do.  Buying lots of guns and shooting them all is a fun thing to do".  I would add take care of the gun, keep it clean, and it will outlast you.  Plus, hunting is a good way to spend leisure time.  I understand Colorado will refund elk licenses if you have the carcass tested for CWD and it tests positive.  

      You need to learn to butcher animals yourself.  It will save $ and make you a better cook by understanding the different cuts.  It gives you a sense of satisfaction to process your own meat.

      I travelled from MN and hunted elk in Colorado for the first time this past fall.  I was unsuccessful, but it doing it without a guide and carrying everything on my back into the wilderness made it somewhat reasonable.  It was good for my health.  I saw lots of other great wildlife.

      I have mixed feelings about those high licenses for non-residents, but that money is an important source of support for wildlife agencies and rural communities.

      To make up for the expense, I came home and shot a couple whitetails 90 miles from my house in Minneapolis, it's been feeding my family of four for about 8 weeks, and it will last probably another month.
       

      •  well, if it works for you (1+ / 0-)
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        that's great.  I'm just not equipped.  Even if I had a rifle, I've never been very good at shooting living things.  Either buck fever or Bambi remorse will guarantee that I blow the shot.  

        I know how to butcher, but it's very low on my list of preferred activities, and an elk is a damn big project.  Just gutting it and hauling it out is more work than I'm probably able to do.  If the choice was starving . . . but, I'm not that hungry yet.  ;)

        Then there is the problem of loading the carcass in the Corolla.  Kind of like how many football players will fit in a VW?

        Interesting about the tag refund for a positive CWD test - I didn't know they were doing that.  

        "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Goethe

        by jlynne on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 05:03:15 AM PST

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        •  Size of car is a big issue. There's a guy who (0+ / 0-)

          wrote a book about low budget hunting for food who suggests a big plastic cooler. Debone everything in the woods. He teaches hunting and hunts all the time, has always owned a small car. He hunts white tail in Virginia mostly.

          Guns are problematic in that it is more involved than a day at the range. I shoot a $20 BB gun most. Into an open coffee can in the yard.

          "Slip now and you'll fall the rest of your life" Derek Hersey 1957-1993

          by ban nock on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 05:29:12 AM PST

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    •  No need for luck, there are unlimited tags sold (2+ / 0-)
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      jlynne, Polly Syllabic

      "over the counter". So anyone who wants one can get one.

      Luck you make. A couple weeks ago I was driving with a friend, he always saw game before me. By the time we drove an hour, and drove back he'd spotted animals 12 times, every single time seeing it before me, and he was driving. I consider myself pretty good at spotting animals. He is obviously a lot better.

      CWD unlike mad cow can't transfer from ungulate to predator, like lion, wolf, or human. It's like scrapie in sheep that we've been eating for 500 years. Ninety five percent of people here never get animals tested. I'm much more concerned with influenza and global warming.

      Besides hunting I also enjoy hiking, backpacking, animal watching and observing, snow shoeing, used to x-country ski, canoeing, car camping with my kids, target shooting, and who knows what else. All these activities take the same clothes, backpacks, and so on, I bought them centuries ago.

      Butchering is an enjoyable chore, like tending one's own garden or carting in wood for the fire. It takes two of us twelve long hours just for the cleaning, trimming, and packaging of one animal. Another two for the initial skinning and deboning. My wife and I like working together and seeing all those neat packages of meat wrapped and labeled in butcher paper going into the freezer is satisfying. No processor could ever take the care and time we do on all that meat. We like knowing what we're eating.

      "Slip now and you'll fall the rest of your life" Derek Hersey 1957-1993

      by ban nock on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 05:19:39 AM PST

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      •  where are you? (1+ / 0-)
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        ban nock

        there are no over the counter tags here.  There are strict limits on the number available and the area they cover.  We have tag "lotteries."

        "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Goethe

        by jlynne on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 05:25:59 AM PST

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        •  Colorado, we also have limited areas, lotteries, (0+ / 0-)

          left over tags, late season crop damage tags, all kinds of different ways to go hunt.

          If you wanted to you could have a chance to get two deer, two elk, one pronghorn, and one bear, every single year. Goose season lasts forever, still going on probably out on the plains.

          "Slip now and you'll fall the rest of your life" Derek Hersey 1957-1993

          by ban nock on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 05:33:55 AM PST

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        •  All the ones in yellow you can just walk into any (0+ / 0-)

          outdoor or big box store and buy a tag any time up to and including during the season. No limit.

          http://wildlife.state.co.us/...

          "Slip now and you'll fall the rest of your life" Derek Hersey 1957-1993

          by ban nock on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 05:49:14 AM PST

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  •  California has blacktails, not whitetails (1+ / 0-)
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    Cany doesn't know what s/he is writing about, as the blacktail/sitka deer they have in California are actually declining from what I understand, but they are not the same animal as a whitetail deer. Whitetails are incredibly adept at living in all sorts of environments, and is overpopulated in many parts of America.  Ultimately, regulated hunting is not what causes major declines in species, habitat loss is.

    Politically organized hunters probably have helped slow the process of habitat destruction down.  

    There is no evidence that limited cougar hunting would destroy the species.  

    How unfortunate and predictable that a California liberal  would be the anti-hunting voice in responding to a good elk recipe. Ever wonder why the progressive movement sometimes has a hard time reaching regular Americans who should support them ?

    I have to say, MN is not without some flaws, and has some very minor divisions over hunting, but it is a great place for a progressive that loves hunting and fishing to be.  Our current liberal governor won the last election by a hair, largely because he was better on issues of concern to hunters and anglers.

    •  There's a portion of this web site that discusses (0+ / 0-)

      politics not policy. They're more concerned with who has the potential to win a race and why but they don't discuss wether a certain policy is right or wrong. I'm not describing them well. If they considered hunting it would be in the context of how it would affect elections.  http://elections.dailykos.com/...

      "Slip now and you'll fall the rest of your life" Derek Hersey 1957-1993

      by ban nock on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 05:41:08 AM PST

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  •  We have quite a surplus of whitetails this year... (1+ / 0-)
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    Bluefin

    ...but they're small, I'm guessing because of the very long-term drought we're in.

    I haven't seen as many deer as I have this year ever, that I recall -- but most are around two-thirds the size they typically get.

    Yes, I often dress as a pirate. Your point?

    by theatre goon on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 04:57:30 AM PST

  •  Taking my kids out to the national grasslands (1+ / 0-)
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    I'll be checking back in periodically until I leave but might not respond until back.

    "Slip now and you'll fall the rest of your life" Derek Hersey 1957-1993

    by ban nock on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 05:52:45 AM PST

  •  Elk (1+ / 0-)
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    My dad sent me home with some of this free meat and I made elk burgers from the ground.  I'm thawing out a roast to make elk stroganoff tonight.  I'm saving the loin for a special occasion because I'm sure it will be amazing.

    The burgers were awesome and tasted somewhere between the best beef I've ever had and lamb, which is a little too gamy for me most of the time.

    We're all just monkeys burning in hell.

    by smokeymonkey on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 08:50:22 AM PST

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