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Not a diary, just a note that Bill Moyers has David Stockman lambasting the both the Bush and Obama admin on PBS now.

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  •  Tip Jar (14+ / 0-)

    To Goldman Sachs in according to their desires, From us in accordance with the IRS.

    by Bluehawk on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 04:16:39 PM PST

  •  Depends on area (2+ / 0-)
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    Gooserock, Raj47905

    The show was on Friday in Austin. Pretty good. Stockman used lots of GOP themes to come to the same conclusions as OWS.

    •  Thing Is Conservative Economics Don't Work (1+ / 0-)
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      Thousandwatts

      and they'd never produce outcomes favorable to the people. So if he as an individual lands on the right spot, ok I guess, but a real economy can't get there through US conservatism.

      I'll look around, the show may air here tonight some time.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 04:26:24 PM PST

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      •  Stockman is invieghing against Crony Capitolism (4+ / 0-)
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        Wary, Stude Dude, SoCalSal, Raj47905

        Surprisingly David Scockman is the insiders have rigged the system and  recommending a Constitutional Amendment to outlaw campaign contributions from corporations and limit individual contributions to $100.

        To Goldman Sachs in according to their desires, From us in accordance with the IRS.

        by Bluehawk on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 04:52:22 PM PST

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      •  this isn't a failure of conservative economics (1+ / 0-)
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        Marie

        it seems to me to be a human design failure, not a matter of a political persuasion.

        this is biology gone awry in a system that calls for other types of responses: somehow attainment of power seems to shut down our survival instinct.

        this state of mind (or mindlessness) allows the pursuit of insanity, as far as i can tell.

      •  Gooserock, You can watch it at this link...... (2+ / 0-)
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        aliasalias, TBug

        It certainly raised my level of outrage again that 3 years down, we have had no criminal investigations of the Wall Streeters who destroyed the economy, that the too big to fail banks, are now bigger than ever, etc. etc. etc.

        What happened to the sense of justice in this country?
        That at the very least shouldn't there be criminal investigations? We deserve at least that much.  Not just to hear the president say, "they did nothing illegal."

        For the S&L debacle we actually had people go to prison.
        Not Neil Bush - of course, but many others.

        http://billmoyers.com/...

        Rhetoric has to be matched with actions. "Only actions don't lie."

        by allenjo on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 05:55:51 PM PST

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  •  I saw Stockman on Up with Chris Hayes (2+ / 0-)
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    this morning. He presented some reasonable views not the rabid dog rantings of some other conservatives.  I wasn't able to watch the entire show as I was on my way out to Sunday school.

    "He is no fool who forsakes things that he cannot keep, so that he might gain things that he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot

    by looking and listening on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 04:31:15 PM PST

    •  Because that's how "they" played in front of (1+ / 0-)
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      cameras back in Ronnie's and Stockman's day.
      Stockman got woodshedded for getting caught saying out loud what the GOP Teabagger candidates now scream from the rooftops and podiums at anyone who will listen.
      I find all this attention Stockman is getting as a sort of "moderate" i.e. not completely batshit crazy, really disconcerting. It was him and his that got the whole Reagan Revolution bullshit rolling and we are living the results of "Voodoo Economics".
      I really don't need to hear another fucking Rethug tell me about what they think about how it's all going down, even if he doesn't have crazy eyes and speak in dog-whistles.

      Occupy- Your Mind. - No better friend, no worse enemy. -8.75, -6.21

      by Thousandwatts on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 05:58:43 PM PST

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  •  Episode online (4+ / 0-)

    at billmoyers.com

  •  Caught that program here yesterday. (7+ / 0-)

    I thought Stockman laid it out pretty damn good and as near as I could tell he blamed both parties equally on the mess that was created. He basically said that both parties are in bed with the bankers and the big corporations. And that because of that , no regulations were in place or enforced to stop the casino like antics of bankers and mortgage holders . Also he said that was why the big guns that made the most out of the make believe market are not being held responsible and why they are operating right now with basically the same rules as before. Basically he said nothing will change regarding any of this until or unless we can get the money out of Congress, admitting how hard that will  be but asserting that it was an absolute necessity to stop another big bust, probably worse than the  present one. He said that the banks that were "too big  to fail" are even bigger now than then. He said that the way things stand now there is no doubt that a second round awaits us some time down the road. I think he is right.

    Just give me some truth. John Lennon--- OWS------Too Big To Fail

    by burnt out on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 04:48:24 PM PST

  •  Party like it's 1985! (1+ / 0-)
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    Marie

    My parents were at a Farm Movement rally in Ames, Iowa back in early 1985. Some people there hung a paper-mache effigy of Stockman....

    "If this Studebaker had anymore Atomic Space-Age Style, you'd have to be an astronaut with a geiger counter!"

    by Stude Dude on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 06:03:21 PM PST

  •  I watched today. Love the new show! (1+ / 0-)
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    Marie

    I'm spending the winter watching Northern Exposure.

    Last night I watched an episode where the 72 year old shopkeeper Ruth Ann was talking about her sons.

    One is a poet/writer or teacher I think. The other (and she sighed when she said this) "was a big disappointment".

    Turns out he was an investment banker. And this show was in 1991!

    Tracy B Ann - technically that is my signature.

    by ZenTrainer on Sun Jan 22, 2012 at 07:26:11 PM PST

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