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Google's homepage during the day of action against SOPA and PIPA
President and CEO of Public Knowledge Gigi Sohn writes at Forbes' CIO Network blog, arguing that there's nothing salvagable in the current SOPA/PIPA anti-internet piracy bills.
Reporters want to know—what if this provision came out? Or what if that was the other language was changed? Would the bill be acceptable to us? Some of the big lobby groups behind the bill suggested a “summit” of tech companies and content companies to hash it all out.

The answer is—none of the above. Trying to “fix” SOPA and PIPA and all of the bad provisions in those bills is the wrong approach. Conceptually, it’s like trying to build a building starting on the second floor. The most logical way to proceed would be to start building a structure from the foundation and working up from there.

She also has a radical idea: "So before we talk solutions, we have to figure out the problem."

This legislation is a perfect example of what happens when you let lobbyists, and in this case the wrong ones, write legislation. The MPAA and RiAA and other content producers called the tune on this one and Congress jumped, even after the Government Accountability Office couldn't validate the dire numbers the content industry put out to show how harmed they are by piracy. Despite the uncertain data, despite the warnings from all of the other communities involved—tech, civil rights, social media—of the dire unintended consequences this legislation would have, Congress was ready to do the content providers bidding.

But the experience of stopping this legislation provides another great example, and perhaps a template to build upon. Sohn:

This was a decentralized effort. No one company or group organized it. No one company or group could have organized it. When someone suggested on Reddit that Web sites go dark, and Reddit agreed, the idea caught on as the site proprietors themselves decided what to do. The combination of expertise in the substance and inside D.C.-based knowledge of the legislative process, combined with outside online activism created a powerful wave that swamped the traditional ways of doing business inside the Capitol.

It set up a great coalition, and a Congress that just might be ready to listen to it, for the next round.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Thu Jan 26, 2012 at 03:38 PM PST.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  To put it into true Geek... (6+ / 0-)

    The PIPA/SOPA code failed to properly identify the desired outcome, did not anticipate many variables, had routines that ate up all resources, and consistently returned error codes at random with any input at all.

    Of course, EA loved it.  

    /snark

    One of these days, I'm gonna learn that I'm only really good at convincing people when I'm being a wiseass. Reviewtopia.net

    by detroitmechworks on Thu Jan 26, 2012 at 03:44:37 PM PST

    •  PIPA & SOPA overreached. Egregiously overreached! (0+ / 0-)

      It was the standard industry tactic. Use a blunderbuss where a scalpel would do as well and be more effective and less harmful to bystanders.

      If the the issue really is ready replication and distribution of videos ... and the key concerns are determining when piracy takes place and where ... it seems easy - relatively easy! - to combat. That is, if just entertainment video and audio are at issue and the piracy is, truly, from abroad and reasonably - relatively reasonably! - detectable with a smart joint efforts. (Sure, there will be hassling about all this. No one said it was simple. Just simpler than the industry was making it.)

      Opposed as I was to SOPA and PIPA in light of their advocates' take-for-granted weight-throwing around the Hill, the creative movie and TV industries do have a problem. And the rules they finally get may serve as coattails for others like newspapers, book publishers, other creators of videos, etc.

      Worse, enablers of piracy, especially those who may be profiting handsomely from their work, might not be as squeaky-clean-innocent as their protesting suggests.

      It's time for adults to gather, perhaps in the company of neutral adults which is what Congress ought to be on issues like this, and reason together.

      Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

      by TRPChicago on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 09:18:46 AM PST

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  •  They are spot on (7+ / 0-)

    there is nothing good that can come out of these bills.

    O/T as far as writing bills is concerned there is no 'right lobbyist' ever.

  •  This notion that the govt only acted (0+ / 0-)

    because or coercion flies in the face of common sense and facts.  There is a reason that nation after nation are implement ing anti-piracy laws and it's not because the MPAA and RIAA have all these govts in their back pockets.

    These tech companies are profiting from piracy especially Google.  That's why there is this anti legislation push.  

    Right man, right job and right time

    by Ianb007 on Thu Jan 26, 2012 at 04:10:55 PM PST

    •  Not coercion — CORRUPTION. (3+ / 0-)
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      Indeed there is a reason that ACTA is being rammed down the throats of governments worldwide — it's because the international copyright & patent mafia, determined to preserve its monopoly forever against the rise of "subversively democratic" social media, is bribing economic elites across the globe to push their agenda. (It's ALEC on a world tour — though I don't doubt you see no problem with that either.)

      ...& if the government has ANY piracy case against Google, they'd have already been shut down & buried a long time ago. FAIL.

      Tell Congress: DON'T BREAK THE INTERNET! Learn about the OPEN Act.

      by Brown Thrasher on Thu Jan 26, 2012 at 04:35:28 PM PST

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    •  The piracy stats being thrown about are as (7+ / 0-)

      trustworthy as the FRC's claim that homosexuality is destroying the nation.

      They're bullshit.

      Just like "scientific" papers proclaiming that climate change isn't being caused by human action.

      Just like gay can be prayed away.

      Just like fracking won't contaminate well water.

      Just like are "scientifically proven" to be inherently inferior to whites.

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      by The Dead Man on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 08:38:38 AM PST

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    •  You don't think worldwise media trusts (0+ / 0-)

      have influence over more than one Government?

      Really?

      Fear is your only God.

      by JesseCW on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 11:08:40 AM PST

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  •  PIPA/SOPA Make Assumptions Not in Evidence (6+ / 0-)

    First of all, the "losses" claimed by the movie, music, and software industries are illusory, and may be regarded as complete fabrications.  They are an attempt to measure events that didn't happen.  You might as well ask the question, "How many times didn't you beat your wife last week?"

    Second is the respective industries' perennial and highly disingenuous shock and surprise that computers can copy data.  This has never been a secret.  It has always been true; it will continue to be true.  ("Information is free.  All else is artifice.")

    That said, no one is seriously arguing that creative people doing good work should starve.  The question is how to create incentives for creative people to do good work in digital media while at the same time acknowledging that copying is decentralized, ubiquitous, and cheap.  In their computer, everyone basically has their own factory, and can churn out copies just as effectively as you can.  You are NOT going to change this, so architect your business, economy, and laws to acknowledge this.

    Finally, for a thought-provoking analysis of copyright and government's role in establishing and limiting it, read the speech given by Thomas Babington Macaulay in the House of Commons a little while back...

    •  It's really not about piracy -- they know their (6+ / 0-)

      numbers are bullshit -- it's about maintaining a gatekeeper's grip on media production and killing innovation in it's cradle.  The MPAA and RIAA profit handsomely from their "business model" and don't want to see smart young artists being entrepreneurs -- they want them trapped in bad contracts.

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      by The Dead Man on Thu Jan 26, 2012 at 04:30:36 PM PST

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    •  It's based on a perversion of the (1+ / 0-)
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      the Constitution.

      A Patent is not a right.  

      There is no more a right to "Intellectual Property" than there is a right to incorporate.  

      Both are special grants which in a healthy society last for a limited time and are not given because the persons who immediately profit from them are enriched thereby, but rather, are given because they benefit society as a whole.

      Fear is your only God.

      by JesseCW on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 11:12:27 AM PST

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  •  Unfortunately, ACTA seems to be up to doing (3+ / 0-)
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    the same job... globally.

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    by The Dead Man on Thu Jan 26, 2012 at 04:26:37 PM PST

    •  SOPA/PIPA/PCIPA are ACTA's foot in the door. (3+ / 0-)
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      joe wobblie, The Dead Man, kurt

      Somehow or another whoever modified ACTA into its current form managed to work in some sort of nominal respect for "local privacy laws" — at which point the reason for the HURRY-HURRY-HURRY on the censorship bills becomes clear. Smith, Leahy, Dodd, & the other loyal puppets want to tear down our privacy protections in preparation for the full ACTA roll-out that their paymasters have in mind.

      Tell Congress: DON'T BREAK THE INTERNET! Learn about the OPEN Act.

      by Brown Thrasher on Thu Jan 26, 2012 at 04:56:24 PM PST

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      •  ACTA is signed by Obama and in force. (1+ / 0-)
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        No congressional approval needed according to EFF. Obama and his lawyers pulled a parlor trick.

        But the USTR and the Administration have consistently maintained that ACTA is a sole executive agreement negotiated under the President’s power. On that theory, it does not need Congressional approval and thus ACTA already became binding on the US government when Ambassador Ron Kirk signed it last October.
        EFF - We Have Every Right to Be Furious About ACTA

        EFF and others disagree, but as far as Obama thinks, he needs no congressional approval.

        There's enough on this planet for everyone's needs but not for everyone's greed. ~ Gandhi

        by CitizenOfEarth on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 08:36:59 AM PST

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  •  Agreed on all points, except for (4+ / 0-)
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    joe wobblie, Chi, Odysseus, kurt

    ..."unintended" consequences.

    These POS bills — & the years-in-coming model & purpose of all of them, ACTA — damage the 99%'s communicative & economic apparatus very deliberately.

    Tell Congress: DON'T BREAK THE INTERNET! Learn about the OPEN Act.

    by Brown Thrasher on Thu Jan 26, 2012 at 05:07:17 PM PST

  •  Is anybody evaluating OPEN? (2+ / 0-)
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    That seems to be an attempt to start from the ground up and go in a different direction.

    OPEN would give oversight to the International Trade Commission (ITC) instead of the Justice Department, focuses on foreign-based websites, includes an appeals process, and would apply only to websites that "willfully" promote copyright violation. SOPA and PIPA, in contrast, would enable content owners to take down an entire website, even if just one page on it carried infringing content, and imposed sanctions after accusations -- not requiring a conviction
    http://www.pcworld.com/...

    from a bright young conservative: “I’m watching my first GOP debate…and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!”

    by Catte Nappe on Thu Jan 26, 2012 at 05:32:19 PM PST

  •  Yes (1+ / 0-)
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    kurt

    They are right.  First you have to understand the problem, understand what your requirements are and what your goal is.

    So many times in so many fields, people want to jump ahead to crafting solutions before they do the analysis and understand the problem and decide what they want.  

    I think that IT people and people in construction understand this well.  I never thought about legislators dealing with the same issue but I guess they often do and it sheds some light on why some of our laws turn out the way they do.

  •  The Ghost in the Machine (1+ / 0-)
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    dangerous voter for a "dangerous president"; Präsidentenelf-maßschach; Warning-Some Snark Above"Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) "Sciant terra viam monstrare."

    by annieli on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 08:19:19 AM PST

  •  Desired outcome (2+ / 0-)
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    nerve, stevemb

    We have Digital Millennium Copyright Act which was supposed to make everybody happy.  I would expect that the desired outcome is to fix what DMCA doesn't do or does badly.

    Response: If you "got it" you wouldn't be a republican

    by JML9999 on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 08:27:46 AM PST

  •  The MPAA and RIAA are not content producers. (9+ / 0-)

    They are content distributors. Any legislation should be worked out between the artists and the public.

    The MPAA and RIAA are parasites who want legal protection for their bloodsucking.

  •  The problem: large established corporations don't (4+ / 0-)
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    pgm 01, esquimaux, Brown Thrasher, stevemb

    want to change with the marketplace.

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    by The Dead Man on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 08:33:58 AM PST

  •  Online games have highest incidence of gay bashing (0+ / 0-)

    I've ever seen.  I've been in too many guilds where everything was "gay"  It gets annoying.  Also, how do they feel about fan-boys being able to play female characters?

    "GASP".

    They're gender bending OMFG send in the purity police, or maybe they just play female characters b/c they like watching their cartoon asses running across the screen.  

    What's more likely, kids becoming gay b/c of this, or a bunch of adolescents playing a girl and having girl on girl romances?  These people obviously have no clear idea what goes on in these online games.

    The only thing we have to fear is fear itself - FDR. Obama Nation. -6.13 -6.15

    by ecostar on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 08:43:33 AM PST

  •  My line of inquiry to my lawmakers (3+ / 0-)
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    Brown Thrasher, stevemb, JesseCW

    Why is this still around?  Have the people not spoken loudly enough about their desire for you to leave the internet alone?

    What powerhouse lobby are you listening to which overrides the millions who are vocal about their opposition to this ?

    The most elite, corrupt places in the universe are K Street and Wall Street. Mitt belongs to one, and Newt belongs to the other.

    by thenekkidtruth on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 08:46:17 AM PST

  •  Interesting article (5+ / 0-)
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    esquimaux, nicolemm, stevemb, JesseCW, coral

    showing how monopoly distributors of content actually destroy it over time, because they only maintain it as long as it is a profit center. After that, it is lost because the media on which it is stored is not maintained for archival purposes. In fact, piracy is the only thing that is actually preserving these historic software programs, games and media. The content distributors could give a shit after the commercial value is extracted from it, which is why a lot of old music and movies sits in vaults, never to be released, and why a lot of old silent movies were lost forever because nobody bothered to make archival backups.

    Trickle Down Economics 101: They get the golden parachute, we get the golden shower.

    by NoMoreLies on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 09:02:10 AM PST

    •  Yet another reason the Founders gave (2+ / 0-)
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      Brown Thrasher, NoMoreLies

      Congress the power to issue copyrights only for a limited time.

      They weren't fucked in the head by being subjected to insane Randroid gibberish for decades - they understood quite clearly that no one could own a story or song.  They just thought it was a good idea to guarantee a creator of new works and exclusive right to profit from said creation for as long as that profit monopoly would serve the general welfare.

      An exclusive right to profit from something for a limited term in no fucking way means ownership, though.

      Fear is your only God.

      by JesseCW on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 11:18:42 AM PST

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  •  The internet business model is safe for now. n/t (0+ / 0-)

    Rick Perry is George Bush without brains.

    by thestructureguy on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 09:02:10 AM PST

  •  maybe more people should be more ethical and stop (0+ / 0-)

    stealing copy righted materials like movies & music & content.

    •  Non sequitur, red herring, implied strawman (3+ / 0-)
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      stevemb, JesseCW, The Dead Man

      ...But you know this.

      Sorry, Bubba Joe (wait, actually I'm not sorry at all), but you're not going to derail this thread with your transparent shilling.

      Tell Congress: DON'T BREAK THE INTERNET! Learn about the OPEN Act.

      by Brown Thrasher on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 10:33:45 AM PST

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    •  Maybe we could have more consistency... (3+ / 0-)
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      stevemb, JesseCW, Brown Thrasher

      ...between ILLEGAL and IMMORAL

      I am apparently breaking the law if I copy a disc that I PAID FOR and give it to my friend.

      I don't give a fuck.

      When are the thieves in the music industry going to repay me for doing their job--MARKETING?

      How many of you have ever heard of:

      The Pimps of Joytime

      The CodeTalkers

      The Hackensaw Boys

      Nina Gerber

      Delta Nove

      The Bad Livers

      Deke Dickerson

      The Broun Fellinis

      I could go on and on, but I think folks get the point.  I've given copies of these artist's music to people who've gone on to become fans of the people involved, and who actually went on to PAY MONEY for more of it.

      When do I get my cut as a volunteer marketing agent?  Oh yeah, I already got it when people gave me copies of obscure music THEY liked!

      They should stop sniveling and stop trying to enlist Big Brother as their personal enforcer (while simultaneously wrecking Internet freedom for the rest of us!)

      "Ronald Reagan is DEAD! His policies live on but we're doing something about THAT!"

      by leftykook on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 10:59:36 AM PST

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      •   I asked Tom Morello what (0+ / 0-)

        he thought of people pirating his music.

        His response was that he really hoped they'd spend the money they saved on some worthy charity if they could afford it.  He said that would do a lot more for him personally than the royalties he'd get from people buying his music.

        Fear is your only God.

        by JesseCW on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 11:22:26 AM PST

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        •  I kinda like the idea... (1+ / 0-)
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          ...of sending artists money directly when people give me copies of stuff I wind up liking.  This is especially useful for the obscure wierdos who occupy my music collection...

          "Ronald Reagan is DEAD! His policies live on but we're doing something about THAT!"

          by leftykook on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 12:15:55 PM PST

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          •  I know more than a few extremely independent (1+ / 0-)
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            artists who would be thrilled if a bootleg of one of their songs led to you buying a t-shirt or concert ticket.

            Fear is your only God.

            by JesseCW on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 01:29:15 PM PST

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            •  Exactly what I mean (1+ / 0-)
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              they come to town, I go see 'em....Like the Pimps of Joytime, from Brooklyn, who played in Sacramento the other night, we went to their show, bought their records, told other people about them.  And we don't give a shit if top-40 radio ever notices them, cause we don't listen to that stupid shit, anyway!

              "Ronald Reagan is DEAD! His policies live on but we're doing something about THAT!"

              by leftykook on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 02:15:15 PM PST

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    •  Maybe the MPAA and RIAA should be more ethical (1+ / 0-)
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      Brown Thrasher

      Maybe the MPAA and RIAA should be more ethical and stop:

      1. Lying about losses due to piracy

      2. Trying to stop EVERY innovation from TV to the VCR to the Internet

      3. Get a clue and adapt the long tail sharing model

      4. Quit using bribery and coercion to get congress reps to do your bidding

      Here's a nice infographic showing the lies and corrupt practices of your luddite industry:

      The MPAA Craptastic Infographic

      "No man born with a living soul can be working for the clampdown" The Clash

      by Calee4nia on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 12:01:53 PM PST

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  •  Content Creators (3+ / 0-)
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    The first step is for congress (and everyone) to realize that Hollywood are not the exclusive providers of "content" and "IP."

    The second step is to stop designing and using laws that are becoming more and more draconian to prop up a movie and music distribution system that was designed 100 years ago and is no longer needed (or wanted by the public) in the modern age.  If the MPAA and RIAA can't survive in the "free market" they so gleefully claim to love, so be it.  Stop the damn corporate welfare designed to beef up the bottom line of Sony, Warner, Viacom, and Universal.

    The third step is to acknowledge that the tech industry is a big part of the future of this country, and all of us are part of it, even if you don't consider yourself a "geek."

    The fourth step is to redesign copyright (and patent) law in a way that reflects the realities of the new era.  The law needs to strike a balance between distribution and fair use, and not just be designed for those with deep pockets.

    "No man born with a living soul can be working for the clampdown" The Clash

    by Calee4nia on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 09:37:28 AM PST

  •  Piracy, the better way. ™ (1+ / 0-)
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    JesseCW

    A pirated song, movie, or application is NOT a lost sale. If I cannot afford the price of something on my 9K retirement, I will pirate it. I do not pass anything around and if I had to pay for it, I would do without. The trouble with the rich crybabies is that they don't need the money they just want to up their status in the 1% club.
    Note to so called, IP owners: RELEASE ALL OF YOUR OUT OF PRINT CONTENT TO THE PUBLIC DOMAIN!

    Just as prostitution is the world's oldest profession, religion is the world's oldest scam.

    by Agent420 on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 09:53:32 AM PST

    •  Why not read a book? (0+ / 0-)

      if you can't afford to buy a movie, the public library is free.
      It's not health care we are talking about, it's entertainment.
      I watch movies on Netflix. No matter whether they are new releases or public domain, somebody has to work to make them available. I am totally against soap and pipa, but I think people should get paid for their work. Being low income is not a justification to steal. Read a book, play a board game, get a hobby. People that steal movies don't do it because they are poor they do it because they want to.

      •  Peoples need for ideas is as real as (0+ / 0-)

        our need for health care.

        The people who made those movies - actually did the acting and built the sets and loving crafted the props and poured their soul into finding the perfect sunset for the final scene - don't make jack shit when you watch an old movie on Netflix.  

        Maybe you feel good about yourself when you follow the law, just kind of reflexively.  That's cool, do your thing.

        But you're not paying anyone's wages when you pick Netflix over Limewire.

        Fear is your only God.

        by JesseCW on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 11:25:29 AM PST

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      •  You might want to look into how (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Brown Thrasher

        the recording industry and the movie industry have accounting practices that would make Enron look like amateurs in screwing people (in this case, the artists) over.

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        by The Dead Man on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 11:55:38 AM PST

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        •  I think I'm not communicating very well here, (0+ / 0-)

          I do not in any way want to defend the music or movie industries.
          My only objection was to the comment about pirating.
          I am a programmer and have had my work stolen, I've  illegally used software also, so I've been on both sides, I'm not self righteous or ashamed about it. I think there should be a solution to the problem that is fair both ways. I don't know what that is, but not being able to afford something is not a justification for stealing it, I guess unless it is a necessity. That is why I said read a book for entertainment.  This site is a really good forum for liberal or progressive ideas, but I don't think stealing is a progressive idea and it shouldn't even be a part of this discussion.

    •  Libraries (0+ / 0-)

      have books, movies, books on tape and CD, DVDs, music on vinyl and CDs. You don't have to go to pirate sites on line to access lots of free content that is still under copyright.

      That said, I'd like to see broadcast, film, and cable content sold at the same time as it is released, so that people can legally buy or rent copies legally. Many people don't have cable or don't live close enough to movie theaters showing newly released films, especially films in limited distribution.

      I don't like waiting a year or more to be able to rent or download HBO features via iTunes.

      Skepticism of all the elite institutions, not trust, is what required for successful leadership in this era. Digby

      by coral on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 03:26:48 PM PST

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  •  Copyright Abuse by Universal (4+ / 0-)

    Here is the sort of abuse you DON'T hear about from those who defend SOPA and PIPA.  

    Please remember, the following is a situation where UMG had no legal right to do what they did, but it happened anyway.

    Copyright enforcement gone wrong: Universal takes down a song it doesn’t own

    With Universal Music Group’s recent YouTube takedown of a song by After The Smoke, it seems to be all of the above.  The Florida rap group, who are not signed to a label, uploaded their song “One in a Million” to YouTube, only to have it taken down by UMG hours later for copyright infringement.

    Confused, After the Smoke tried to figure out from YouTube what was going on. They “went through the all the correct procedures” with YouTube, as member Whuzi tells VICE, and were told that the copyright for their song was owned by UMG. “I filed a dispute and got a message back saying that, basically, we were lying and that Universal owned it, without any proof,” he explains, “It’s pretty much their word over ours.”

    Now imagine if Universal had the right to take down entire websites and close down your bank accounts.  Try getting that all back in order.

    "No man born with a living soul can be working for the clampdown" The Clash

    by Calee4nia on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 10:12:25 AM PST

    •  Indeed, THAT'S the crap that should be stopped. (2+ / 0-)
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      (Cue the local copyright troll brigade saying that only megacorps with huge panels of lawyers deserve to profit from music...)

      Tell Congress: DON'T BREAK THE INTERNET! Learn about the OPEN Act.

      by Brown Thrasher on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 10:45:36 AM PST

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    •  Here's the other nasty part of DMCA - (2+ / 0-)
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      The Dead Man, Brown Thrasher

      To defend yourself from a takedown notice, you must identify yourself.

      The anonymous whistleblow who releases video of, say, GE malfeasance?

      All GE has to do is make a call to NBC and have them issue a takedown notice.  Either the video is quashed, or the whistleblower is fingered.

      Rinse and repeat for everything from Police Brutality to Cult Abuse.

      Fear is your only God.

      by JesseCW on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 11:28:01 AM PST

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  •  A captain shows up in port without his ship (1+ / 0-)
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    Brown Thrasher

    crying of "Pirates" and offering no evidence.

    Do we question his sailing skills, or just buy his story?

    Fear is your only God.

    by JesseCW on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 11:07:53 AM PST

  •  For TV & Movies (0+ / 0-)

    I'd like to see release via some pay-to-view online venue, such as iTunes. There are many of us who cannot afford cable's huge monthly fees, but would like to pay to view selected content, like TV episodes.

    When HBO and other shows are held back from DVD or iTunes release, there is a great incentive to visit pirate sites.

    With content like books and articles, a national agency that functioned like ASCAP does for music, would help.

    Many people do not want to access content illegally, but they have no reasonably priced alternatives.

    Skepticism of all the elite institutions, not trust, is what required for successful leadership in this era. Digby

    by coral on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 03:16:08 PM PST

  •  NY Times Endorses OPEN (1+ / 0-)
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    nerve

    The NYT has just come out with an endorsement for the OPEN bill:

    The Online Protection and Enforcement of Digital Trade (OPEN) Act, sponsored by Senator Ron Wyden and Representative Darrell Issa, offers a straightforward and transparent approach to the problem. Content owners could ask the International Trade Commission to investigate whether a foreign Web site was dedicated to piracy. The Web site would be able to rebut the claim. If the commission ruled for the copyright holder, it could direct payment firms like Visa and PayPal and advertising networks like Google’s to stop doing business with the Web site.

    Full article is here

    "No man born with a living soul can be working for the clampdown" The Clash

    by Calee4nia on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 05:06:13 PM PST

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