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Mitt Romneybot 2012 begins to panic as he searches for a way to destroy Rick Santorum
Last week, in the wake of Rick Santorum's Tuesday Night Massacre, Barb asked "What's next for Mitt Romney?" The answer, helpfully supplied by Romney's own campaign, was that Romney planned to attack Santorum just like he attacked Newt Gingrich. His campaign even called Rick and Newt "two peas in a pod" and Romney himself accused Rick Santorum of having "acted like a Democrat."

Well, the attacks aren't working. Between the fact that Rick Santorum isn't nearly as toxic to Republicans as Newt Gingrich and the fact that Romney damaged his own brand by going negative in Florida, Romney's playbook is in serious trouble, and conservatives aren't keeping quiet about it.

Today, National Review's editors accused Romney of "trying to win the nomination by pulverizing his rivals," adding that "his attacks on Santorum have been lame, perhaps because they are patently insincere." Richard Land, an evangelical conservative leader who hasn't endorsed a candidate, said Romney would be making a terrible mistake to go nuclear on Santorum. "Santorum’s a much more likable figure and a much harder figure to demonize than Newt Gingrich was," Land told Politico. "If he does that, there’ll be a backlash." And Byron York reports that late last week a group of conservatives at CPAC informed Romney that he should abandon his attack-dog strategy against Santorum.

All of that makes a fair bit of sense: Romney shouldn't expect beat Santorum by running his anti-Gingrich playbook from Florida. If he goes all-in on negative campaigning, he's likely to cause at least as much damage to his campaign as he is to Santorum's.

But as Adam Bonin points out, that still leaves Romney with a problem, given that the people who vote in Republican primaries and caucuses are, well, Republicans.

He can't attack Santorum for being too conservative and less electable -- which would be truthful -- and is stuck with lame attacks on Santorum's having actually served in the federal government.  Other than that, Romney just has bio to run on.
And between Bain Capital and RomneyCare, in the view of most Republicans, Mitt Romney doesn't have the most attractive bio to run on.

Originally posted to The Jed Report on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 09:58 AM PST.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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Comment Preferences

  •  The Repug leadership is clenching their sphincters (14+ / 0-)

    over Santorum (will there ever be an end to the bathroom humor of his campaign?). They know a Santorum presidential campaign will motivate more Democrats and Independents to vote and that will give us a huge help in the down-ticket races. And that scares something out of them which I won't mention. At least not directly. ;D

    "What profit a man, if he gain the world, but has to pay taxes on it?" Paul 8:36

    From the Gospel of St. Ron Paul in the Teachings and Misunderstandings of the Words of Adam Smith

    by ontheleftcoast on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:03:40 AM PST

    •  Not to mention ensure a Ron Paul third party run (6+ / 0-)

      Santorum is the exact opposite of Ron Paul in individual liberty, foreign policy and federal spending.  

      •  I don't think Paul will go Perot (1+ / 0-)
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        BDsTrinity

        But with that whacky group trying to fund an unnamed candidate on every state's ballot for November who knows? It could be Paul (maybe as VP) will still be around this November?

        "What profit a man, if he gain the world, but has to pay taxes on it?" Paul 8:36

        From the Gospel of St. Ron Paul in the Teachings and Misunderstandings of the Words of Adam Smith

        by ontheleftcoast on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:22:38 AM PST

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        •  Paul as VP? (4+ / 0-)

          That's a non-starter.

          There's no way they let that guy anywhere near the leather chairs.  

          The repair they need to fix, as they see it, is the classic one between God and Gold.  They're not gonna let Paul in there to mess up the message. He hits the wrong fear valves on his political pocket trumpet.

        •  What if it is a series of regional "alternatives?" (2+ / 0-)
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          blue aardvark, annieli

          What if rMONEY is facing 3 regional "protest candidacies" in November? A "states rights" Southerner, a "roll back Federal land control" Westerner and a (gee, fill in your own blank: any of 3 or 4 themes will do) Midwesterner?

          Given the rise of the "buy your personal candidate billionaires", this is no longer idle fantasy. None of them have to win a single electoral vote to be a real trouble for Team rMONEY: if any one of  them simply siphons off 3-5% of the GOP base in one or two states....

          When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

          by Egalitare on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:42:32 AM PST

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          •  A fifth party candidate? (0+ / 0-)

            We've never had this kind of money in the race, true. But even when campaigns were a hell of a lot cheaper to run we've only seen a few credible third party candidates. But heh, if they want to fracture the right I say more power to them.

            "What profit a man, if he gain the world, but has to pay taxes on it?" Paul 8:36

            From the Gospel of St. Ron Paul in the Teachings and Misunderstandings of the Words of Adam Smith

            by ontheleftcoast on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:44:35 AM PST

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      •  Funny that Santorum and Paul can be opposites (3+ / 0-)

        on so many things, but still be equally crazy.

        “Organized money hates me--and I welcome their hatred!” ― Franklin D. Roosevelt

        by shoeless on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:34:53 AM PST

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      •  Which in turns brings the possibility (1+ / 0-)
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        bythesea

        of Obama achieving the first 538 - 0 electoral college result into reach.

        In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'ya aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il ya toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

        by blue aardvark on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:55:47 AM PST

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      •  Got to stop (1+ / 0-)
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        askew

        dropping the Ron Paul third party run.  It is just not going to happen; he is not going to sabotage his son's interests in the party.

        •  I do see it if Santorum is the nominee though (0+ / 0-)

          Not if Romney is the nominee.

          •  Yeah... good luck with that one (0+ / 0-)

            Apart from foreign policy, Paul is no great libertarian.  It is not like the man is pro-gay rights or pro-choice.  He has more in common with Santorum than a standpoint libertarian so no, I am not buying the "it could happen" argument.  After all these years, if Paul really had a beef with the GOP he would have acted on it.  He's going to preserve his son's chances of carrying on the torch within the party, which is still "home" to him.

    •  I'm actually not so sure about this. (2+ / 0-)
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      ontheleftcoast, Delilah

      Romney has huge negatives; he'll depress R turnout--will he have any effect on D voters, other than to possibly garner some confused "moderates?" Santorum will rally the R voting base far more than Romney can. No anti-Mormon issues, full-on crazy religious support, etc. Romney is the money man, to be sure, but Santorum will bring in the voters on the R side.
      So, do we want low(er) turnout on both sides with Romney or high(er) turnout on both sides with Santorum?

      •  Romeny is the real blah (as in boring) candidate (1+ / 0-)
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        bryduck

        Sure, Santorum will get the wingnut religion voters fired up. But many of them were already fired up as racists. What the Repukes are worried about is invigorating the Democrats and even moderate Independents. We out number them by a wide margin. We just need to show up and vote and that's the last thing they want to happen.

        "What profit a man, if he gain the world, but has to pay taxes on it?" Paul 8:36

        From the Gospel of St. Ron Paul in the Teachings and Misunderstandings of the Words of Adam Smith

        by ontheleftcoast on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 11:31:59 AM PST

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        •  I guess so. And when he picks a (2+ / 0-)
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          ontheleftcoast, Delilah

          "reasonable" running mate, their ticket will be 2008 in reverse. I just happen to think that Santorum won't turn off as many people as Romney already does. He's more consistent, seems sharper, and is far more forceful and "dynamic."
          (I know, ick.)
          Santorum on a national scale is an unknown so far, and that scares me because this election is so fragile since we need so much to go right.

      •  I share your ambivalence (0+ / 0-)

        over which one is more helpful to Democratic interests at the ballot box in November.  I have decided to just sit back and enjoy the train wreck knowing that they will all emerge damaged by the toxicity of the process, since the extremists are running the show in the GOP.  I am affirming that regardless of whom is the nominee, we're going to work our asses off to ensure our peeps run to the polls...  

  •  For some reason I read (8+ / 0-)
    Mitt Romney doesn't have the most attractive bile to run on.
    Of course Bile in any form is not attractive...

    -6.25 -7.08 The glass is neither half-full nor half-empty. The glass is just twice as large as it needs to be. If you play Microsoft CD's backwards, you hear satanic things, but that's nothing, because if you play them forwards, they install Windows.

    by Unit Zero on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:05:45 AM PST

    •  Speak for yourself (1+ / 0-)
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      Unit Zero

      My bile is a lovely pale brown with green overtones. And, like my poop, it does not stink.

      In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'ya aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il ya toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

      by blue aardvark on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:57:22 AM PST

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  •  it's just hard to wipe out/up Santorum /nt (11+ / 0-)

    dangerous voter for a "dangerous president"; Präsidentenelf-maßschach; Warning-Some Snark Above"Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) "Sciant terra viam monstrare."

    by annieli on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:06:06 AM PST

  •  Win by Pulverizing, exsqueeze me isnt' that like (3+ / 0-)

    chapter 1 in the Rove Playbook?

    Response: If you "got it" you wouldn't be a republican

    by JML9999 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:07:02 AM PST

  •  This race has been quite entertaining. (5+ / 0-)

    I hope to enjoy the drama through the GOP convention. Right now, my prediction is that no one gets enough delegates to win the nomination and Romney gets anointed by the Republican establishment. And I'm thinking that will hurt GOP turnout in November.

    If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

    by HairyTrueMan on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:07:14 AM PST

  •  Nuclear, he will go (9+ / 0-)

    The fact is negative ads work. And Santorum has a lot to go negative on. Folks forget he was one corrupt motha in the Senate, one of the top K Street pols. He also says a lot of really stupid things. Romney doesn't need the extreme far right to win the nomination. His job is to find a coalition of just enough GOP folks to get enough delegates. I still think he'll do it. He'll go negative on Santorum without making it seem as ugly as the Gingrich attacks, and let the media do the rest. Santorum will implode.

  •  I suspect Romney woke up this morning and (8+ / 0-)

    thought back over his weekend and said, "What the fuck?"  The poor bastard's been severely trying to convince people he's a conservative, and now he's being told "don't touch the Santorum?"

    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:08:27 AM PST

    •  its enough to burst a sphincter (3+ / 0-)
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      darthstar, nellgwen, Delilah

      Obama has given me a stomach full of empty with a pocket full of dreams

      by Lawdog on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:14:42 AM PST

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    •  Romney Smash! (Incredible Hulk Paraphrase) (1+ / 0-)
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      nellgwen

      Seriously? I think Santorum is just as easy to destroy as Newt. After all, Santorum has a lot of policy problems in his past.

      For instance... Rick oncevoted to help unions. He's since did a double take, and is as anti union as can be. But that vote is still on the books.

      In addition, Rick has arguedfor evolution (at the micro level). Obviously, he hasn't put his full faith in Genesis' creation account if he admits to even micro-level evolution.

      Then of course, the Crazy Santorum Parents made their children hold a dead corpse the day after Rick and Karen slept the night with it. Sick fuckers. Ghoulish. Disgusting.

      Above Grecian mantles were chiseled these words... Know Thyself... Nothing in Excess... the pop philosophy of its day.

      by ravagerofworlds2 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:34:21 AM PST

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  •  Yeah, guys who oppose contraception are likable (4+ / 0-)
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    Aunt Pat, Unit Zero, Harkov311, nellgwen
    •  Even worse- (0+ / 0-)

      Santorum is on record not only for opposing contraception, but for restricting sex to procreation only, even between married couples.  Doesn't Santorum and his wife have seven kids?  Is she happy that the only reason they have sex is to pop out a few more?

      Puts a whole new slant on Valentines Day.

  •  I guess that is why he is a conservitive (3+ / 0-)
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    Unit Zero, nellgwen, Delilah
    "Santorum’s a much more likable figure and a much harder figure to demonize than Newt Gingrich was,"
    Oddly enough, in my personal bubble, people dispose Santorum as hateful, and just consider Gingrich a bit of a hypocritical loon.

    "All things are not equally true. It is time to face reality." -Al Gore

    by Geek of all trades on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:10:33 AM PST

  •  Personally, I'm thinking a Romney nom (1+ / 0-)
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    nellgwen

    gets them closer to winning the WH (but not), while hurting them downticket.

    A Santorum nom gets them slaughtered in the electoral college but helps them win downticket.

    I'm no pundit tho...

    •  From the R perspective, yes (1+ / 0-)
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      Blicero

      Santorum will energize the Republican base. But it will also energize the Dem base like smacking a hornet's nest with a rock. I'd say it would be a wash, leaving Rmoney their best choice.

      It's not 11th dimensional chess; it's just chess. And he's KICKING YOUR ASS.

      by pneuma on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:41:49 AM PST

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    •  Different events transpire (0+ / 0-)

      Romney means their base stays unenthused and that helps downticket.

      Santorum means our base exclaims NO WAY NO HOW OVER OUR DEAD BODIES and turns out like it's 2008.

      Either way, I think they've got troubles downticket.

      In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'ya aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il ya toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

      by blue aardvark on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 11:00:17 AM PST

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  •  What about St. Ronnie's 11th commandment, Mitt? (1+ / 0-)
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    nellgwen

    You just spit in Nancy Reagan's face!

    It was a big hocker too!

    If Obama doesn't deserve credit for getting Bin Laden because he didn't pull the trigger, Bin Laden doesn't deserve the blame for 9-11 because he didn't fly the planes.

    by Bush Bites on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:12:00 AM PST

  •  Despite the K street connection, (2+ / 0-)
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    nellgwen, PorridgeGun

    when it come to Santorum, "there's no there, there", the man is a pro inquisition cypher.

    May you live in interesting times--Chinese curse

    by oldcrow on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:12:37 AM PST

  •  "patently insincere"...truer words haven't been (2+ / 0-)
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    nellgwen, SquirrelQueen

    spoken in this campaign.

    The one thing that strikes me about Romney more than anything else is his lack of sincerity or conviction on ANY issue.  He's a salesman, and he's always trying to make the sale, but he's doing it by offering a 30% discount before describing the product.  He's completely incompetent as a candidate.

    Hopefully, this will translate into an equal boost to the Democrats down ticket in November.

    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:13:04 AM PST

  •  Why Romney is a punching bag - because he is (5+ / 0-)
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    darthstar, dss, nellgwen, Bindle, BDsTrinity

    Romney is the sparring partner for The Real Conservative (Du Jour) - the stand-in for Obama - as far as GOP primary voters are concerned.

    He's not supposed to win; he's the benchmark.

    Once you see that, it all makes sense... except for why Mittens doesn't seem to realize he's a right-wing punching bag... because he's literally a punching bag.

  •  As a Washington outsider (3+ / 0-)
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    darthstar, nellgwen, SquirrelQueen

    Mitt Romney was not aware that the evangelical base feeds on Santorum.

    So to speak.

  •  If Santorum manages to win the R nomination... (1+ / 0-)
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    nellgwen

    ...we'll definitely see a brokered convention, because no Republican, nationwide, is seriously arguing Santorum has a chance to beat Obama.  Trouble with a brokered convention is that any choices for a replacement for Santorum would consist of a guy that either a) didn't want to run in the first place, or b) was asked not to run.  Not to mention the whole anti-democratic nature of any backroom deal involving a White Knight, and the inevitable backlash by Santorum and/or his supporters.

    I"m going to enjoy this election, the way I enjoy seeing a multi-car pileup in a Grand Prix race, where at leat one of the cars bursts into flame.

    We reach for the stars with shaking hands in bare-knuckle times.

    by TheOrchid on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:15:42 AM PST

    •  It wouldn't surprise me if the GOP was (1+ / 0-)
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      kat herder

      planning for a brokered convention, because it would allow them to field an un-tarnished and "popular" candidate - which would, in turn, cause the media to inflate a competition with President Obama by discussing how this "completely changes the game" and "throws the president off" or "revitalizes the Republicans and Independents" across America (in order to boost down-ticket races)...they know they won't win the Presidency...their concern now is holding onto the House.

      Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

      by darthstar on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:20:20 AM PST

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    •  We're already starting to see (0+ / 0-)

      the backlash, with Santorum and his backers claiming that Romney's camp rigged the CPAC straw poll. Add that to the Iowa counting snafu, and Rick's setting himself up as the True Conservative being persecuted by the corporatists.

      Now to try to end the wars we ask our gay and straight soldiers to fight. -- Chris Hayes (modified)

      by Cali Scribe on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 01:22:38 PM PST

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  •  They are reaping what they have sown (7+ / 0-)

    On one level, of course, this is entertaining.  In playing to the base, Romney is making it exceedingly difficult to ever come back to the middle.

    On another level, what is happening in the Republican Party is really, really dangerous.  They are going to nominate someone who will make Ronald Reagan seem like a RINO.  Moreover, the nominee will essentially be arguing, in the name of "religious liberty," that we are a theocracy.  Mississippi defeated the "personhood" amendment yet all the nominees are for it!

    Whoever gets nominated must be defeated with an overwhelming NO and with a wave that sweeps Democrats into office all over the country!

    Perhaps, perhaps, we will then truly have a loyal opposition.

    Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.

    by MoDem on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:16:08 AM PST

  •  Please, God, keep this going. (4+ / 0-)
  •  the Democrats can campaign (2+ / 0-)
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    nellgwen, SquirrelQueen

    in a negative manner against Santorum. Obama, after all, doesn't have to worry about Republican votes. They aren't going to vote for him anyway. It is difficult, however, to see how Romney goes negative on Santorum and gets the votes of Republicans, votes he needs in the primaries. This must be very difficult for professional Republicans who want to win in November. They know full well if the party nominates Santorum the Democratic party base will mobilize in full force to defeat him. So the establishment wants Romney. But it is clear the people who vote in the primaries don't.

  •  Santorum is the Front-Runner (4+ / 0-)

    As of right now, Rick Santorum is the front-runner for the GOP nomination.

    His favorables are much stronger than Mitt's, and the key categories of activists who dominate Republican caucuses and primaries overwhelmingly back him. Mitt won't have his New Hampshire and Florida coalitions available to him in March.

    Romney's campaign is a paper tiger that is being massively overrated by people. All this talk of Santorum lacking organization is nonsense. Romney's organization has got him beat in majority of contests thus far. If he were as organized as his cheerleaders in the pundit class believe, he'd never have lost Colorado or finished third in a place like Minnesota.

    If Santorum can just win Michigan and come close in Arizona, he'll solidify his front-runner status on March 6th. If he wins both, Romney is finished.

    The reason I say that, by the way, is that Super Tuesday sets up perfectly for Santorum with Gingrich massively fading.  Georgia, Tennessee, and Oklahoma are all surefire Santorum states (on the back of a Michigan win), as are the North Dakota and Alaska caucuses.  Romney will win his home state of Mass., Vermont and Idaho. He will get less credit for winning Virginia than Santorum will for winning Ohio.  So, we're looking at a 6-4 result, but delegates may be closer because of Virginia (Santorum would've easily won Virginia if he were on the ballot, which is Romney's only lifeline in this entire mess).

    The rest of March just straight up sucks for Romney. Kansas, Wyoming, Hawaii, Mississippi, Alabama, Missouri...... Romney loses 5 of the 6, which sets up a showdown in Illinois.  I predict that is where this race ends, if Santorum is to win.

    By the way, people are overestimating Romney's Superpac money and underestimating the role debates have played in both Iowa and Florida. Gingrich had no debates to propel him from the middle of December to the caucuses, and he turned in two atrocious Florida debate performances.  

    Santorum needs a strong debate on the 22nd to win Michigan.  Newt is staying in this, in my opinion, to viciously attack Romney at that debate, knowing it gives Santorum even more room to win.

  •  What would be your Onion story on this? (3+ / 0-)
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    Krush, nellgwen, Mr MadAsHell

    Mine would be:

    "Majority Prefers Next Idol Winner as GOP Write-In"

  •  RS as the candidate?God must have been reborn (0+ / 0-)

    a card carrying Democrat!

  •  I stand by what I wrote back in April (7+ / 0-)

    and I'll just cut and paste the comment:

    "he has a much bigger problem in the South, and with the Republican primary voters, in particular.  The evangelical wing of the party, and they turnout in a big way in the primaries, will never vote for a M.O.R.M.A.N.  The only states where he actually has any chance at all are, ironically, the blue NE, maybe Florida with all the NE transplants, and the heavily Mormon SW--maybe, Arizona, Nevada and definitely, Utah.  He's toast."

    •  Gotta agree with you (2+ / 0-)
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      nellgwen, PorridgeGun

      because I've been saying the same thing.

      I think all this anti-contraception nonsense the Republicans are embracing will hurt Romney more than Santorum.  The Republicans are trying to tie this issue to religion and Santorum doesn't run away from his as much as Romney does.  

      Plus, everytime the topic of religion is even sniffed around, it only serves to remind their anti-Mormon shock troops that Romney's religion isn't the same as theirs!

      Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. MLK Jr.

      by koosah on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:42:26 AM PST

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  •  What? (0+ / 0-)

    "If he goes all-in on negative campaigning, he's likely to cause at least as much damage to his campaign as he is to Santorum's."

    Do you have any evidence to support this claim?  Or is it just speculation?

    Romney friggin destoryed Gingrich in Florida, due in no small part to the negative ads.  What makes you think he couldn't do the same thing to Santorum in Michigan?

  •  As was mentioned earlier, there's the Abramoff/ (0+ / 0-)

    Saipan link .  There's the John Ensign link. There's lots of ammo. We may have to help Romney a little.

  •  Long ago, while adjusting my tin voil fedora, (2+ / 0-)
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    nellgwen, kat herder

    I came to the conclusion the gop presidential field was and is, laughable. Not particularly insightful, true.

    But it has seemed for months on end and seems more so now, that the gop voters are facing a choice to vote for candidates they know cant win.

    Hence, the nagging sensation for all these many months that some kind of sleight of hand would be employed by the goopers in an 11th hour attempt to energize the base and shock the public into ignoring the very things the gop stands for.

    Could that happen as a result of a brokered convention? It sure seems so.

    With a "new" "exciting" candidate who needs to keep his/her shit together for only a couple of months, riding the short term collective shock and effectively using the medias short term "oh my what a master stroke of genius we love the new candidate" bs.

    Should MixMasterFrothy win MI, then we may have an opportunity to witness what would be the single most choreographed political theatre in US history: a Jeb or CC risen from the ashes candidacy and victory.

    "Seems like too many people in this country would rather be fucked by business (in many cases repeatedly) than helped by government." BF

    by A Runner on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:26:59 AM PST

    •  Don't see it happening. (5+ / 0-)

      First of all, both Jeb and CC seem quite sincere in their choice not to run in this cycle.  The country ain't ready for another Bush, and CC is too moderate for the Tea Party.  Not to mention what the GOP base might do if someone replaces their red meat Rick with Chris Christie.  

      And there's really, simply NO ONE who can excite the republican party this year because they are too split for that to happen.  The right wingers and TPs and evangelicals are not in harmony with moderate republicans---and yes, they are out there, lots of them.  

      The GOP has lost control of their Frankenstein and the media is right there to underline it.  Look at the coverage of CPAC this weekend.  I can tell you, I personally know several moderate republicans who were aghast at what they saw.

  •  Romney is a murderer ... (0+ / 0-)

    If we take Mike Murphy at his word ...

    By 2005, with Mr. Romney eyeing a possible presidential bid, he began to distance himself from his abortion rights platform. “My political philosophy is pro-life,” he told National Review, a conservative magazine, in an article that June. That same article quoted his top strategist at the time, Mike Murphy, as saying Mr. Romney had been “a pro-life Mormon faking it as a pro-choice friendly.”
    then it's clear, that if Romney believed in his heart that abortion was murder,  he was willing to kill babies to get votes.
    That is NOT hyperbole. It's quite clear.
  •  I think Mittens (0+ / 0-)

    Should run an attack ad where Santorum is played by Kenneth the Office Page from 30 Rock.

  •  To read about RMoney's attack dog Larry (0+ / 0-)

    McCarthy, the scum behind the Willie Horton ad, go  To the New Yorker article, current issue.

    "Say little; do much." (Pirkei Avot: 1:15)

    by hester on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:28:45 AM PST

  •  Well, Romney could endorse Obama! (3+ / 0-)

    Who knows what the entertainment value of that would be?

    ***Be Excellent To One Another***
    IF THEY ARE GOING TO SCREW THE PEOPLE, MAKE THEM OWN IT.

    by potatohead on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:29:12 AM PST

  •  LOL (1+ / 0-)
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    "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

    by LaurenMonica on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:29:26 AM PST

  •  And in a new Pew poll Obama is up 8 v. Romney (5+ / 0-)

    and double digits the other two clowns.

    Divide and rule, a sound motto. Unite and lead, a better one. ::Goethe::

    by Jeremy10036 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:30:03 AM PST

  •  Anybody from PA want to comment on whether (0+ / 0-)

    Santorum would carry his own State?

    Under Ike we had 91% marginal tax rates and nobody called him a Socialist. - Robert Reich

    by lastman on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:30:53 AM PST

    •  Here's a PA poll that's not too stale (2+ / 0-)
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      nellgwen, T Maysle

      http://www.pittsburghlive.com/...

      snip:

      Pennsylvania GOP voters quit Gingrich for Santorum

      ...

      A Tribune-Review/WPXI-TV poll conducted Feb. 2-6 shows the former senator was gaining strength among Pennsylvania Republicans even before this week's victories in Colorado, Missouri and Minnesota that threaten to shake up the GOP presidential contest.

      The statewide poll of 500 Republicans showed Santorum's support more than doubled from 14 percent six weeks ago to 30 percent, putting him in a statistical dead heat with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who increased his support to 29 percent from 18 percent. Santorum's gain was former House Speaker Newt Gingrich's loss, as his numbers here plunged from 35 percent to 13 percent.

      Everything Right is Wrong Again - TMBG (lyrics)

      by GreenPA on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:41:13 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  I doubt it. The conservative... (0+ / 0-)

      regions are more than offset by Philly and Pittsburgh. And Santorum wouldn't win the Philly suburbs either.

      And the GOP's proportional electoral proposal isn't going to go anywhere. Even some in the GOP don't like it.

  •  Republicans should warn Rick Santorum (3+ / 0-)
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    against destroying Rick Santorum.

    “Organized money hates me--and I welcome their hatred!” ― Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by shoeless on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:31:24 AM PST

  •  Thug wars (0+ / 0-)

    Everything Right is Wrong Again - TMBG (lyrics)

    by GreenPA on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:33:14 AM PST

  •  Sounds to me (2+ / 0-)
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    koosah, nellgwen

    that the GOP really want either candidate.  

    HA fucking Ha

    Sarah Palin - reality TV is the closest she's ever going to get to reality.

    by jackandjill on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:34:33 AM PST

  •  The whole notion of "back off the neg ads" (0+ / 0-)

    is laughable, relly.

    Could neg ads hurt mittbots image? You knows....

    But neg ads work. People hate them. People continue to be influenced by them. mittbot will continue to use them. And folks will continue to warn us the neg ads are dangerous.

    Of course, the neg ads arent mitts ads, are they. The ads are from his SuperPac and mittbot has no control (winky) over what the Pac does with the money (winky).

    "Seems like too many people in this country would rather be fucked by business (in many cases repeatedly) than helped by government." BF

    by A Runner on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:35:05 AM PST

  •  my favorite from the redstate comments... (13+ / 0-)

    ...is this one that well sums up the dawning reality many of the smart/realistic/honest ones over there must surely be coming to:

    We are doomed, people
    RichmondG30 Monday, February 13th at 11:40AM EST (link)

    Our four options at this point are:

    1. Mitt Romney. A man with no core principles with all the likability of day-old movie popcorn

    2. Rick Santorum. A great human being, but as others have pointed out, is a “pro-life statist”. And on top of that he is a senator with ZERO executive experience and what will be about $12 in his campaign account. He’ll be running against a guy with half a billion dollars and four years in the job. The media will paint him as a religious zealot and destroy him.

    3. Newt Gingrich. Need I say more?

    4. The Product of a Brokered Convention. Lots of people seem to be wishing for this. It is only a slightly-less-bad option compared to the above three. We’re going to pick our candidate in a brokered convention and then let Obama’s $500 million campaign and the mainstream media vet him/her?

    God help us all.

  •  Romney's bio. (1+ / 0-)
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    And between Bain Capital and RomneyCare, in the view of most Republicans, Mitt Romney doesn't have the most attractive bio to run on.
    I don't think Romney's history with Bain Capital hurts him with Republicans. The Republicans that I know greatly admire corporate raiders.

    “Organized money hates me--and I welcome their hatred!” ― Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by shoeless on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:41:42 AM PST

  •  They're callin' ya yellah, Mitt (2+ / 0-)
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    nellgwen, SquirrelQueen

    Slow thinkers - keep right

    by Dave the Wave on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:45:25 AM PST

  •  A few "Republicans" does not mean GOP (1+ / 0-)
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    Romney still had the establishment in his back pocket as a Santorum nomination would be the equivalent of a death wish.

    Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious

    by Scarce on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:46:16 AM PST

  •  The National Review Wants an Ideological (0+ / 0-)

    conservative beauty pageant?  No swim suits or no talent?

    How do you spell "Bwaaahahahah"?

    Readers & Book Lovers Pull up a chair! You're never too old to be a Meta Groupie

    by Limelite on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:48:24 AM PST

  •  The pulverizer? (1+ / 0-)
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    nellgwen
    Today, National Review's editors accused Romney of "trying to win the nomination by pulverizing his rivals," adding that "his attacks on Santorum have been lame,
    How do you pulverize someone with lame attacks? The National Review needs to hire someone to edit their editors.

    “Organized money hates me--and I welcome their hatred!” ― Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by shoeless on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:54:44 AM PST

  •  In the end, there is no reason why anyone (1+ / 0-)
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    nellgwen

    not named Romney should want Willard to be our President. Except money - if you're as rich as he is or richer, he'll cut your taxes on the way to cutting his own.

    I am looking forward to the RNC convention when Rick Santorum gives his acceptance speech and 300 million apolitical Americans receive their introduction to him.

    Several light years from earth the collective cry will be audible:

    WTF!?!?!?!?!?

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'ya aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il ya toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

    by blue aardvark on Mon Feb 13, 2012 at 10:54:53 AM PST

  •  I think I'll donate to Santorum. Might throw up (0+ / 0-)

    in my mouth though.
    Boy this GOP primary is delicious.

  •  Mitt can't attack Santorum without... (2+ / 0-)
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    kitebro, Remediator

    ...also attacking the teabagger base he is, at the same time, trying to hornswoggle.

    /Hmmm....I'm not sure I've ever tried to spell that word before.

  •  Romeny is getting ready to... (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    kitebro, Michael91

    ...get up to his elbows in Santorum.

  •  Conservatives WANT to nominate Santorum (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    SquirrelQueen

    They would love to knock Romney off.

    And they might do it. Santorum's surge is coming at just the right time. He doesn't have the personal baggage that Gingrich does.

    And they really don't care about winning this election. They're determined to buck the party establishment and nominate a far-right conservative.

    And if Santorum is the nominee, it's going to be a repeat of the disaster that NV was for Republicans: a vulnerable opponent getting reelected because the right nominated a candidate who couldn't win a general election because she was too conservative.

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