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Yes, yes, yes the Catholic Bishops would love to abolish all artificial birth-control, but this is not their end game right now with their high-profile "War on Religion" attack on Pres Obama.  After all, 28 states do have contraception-coverage mandates in their regulations for health care insurers, but the bishops didn't gnash their teeth, rend their garments and make pronouncements of doom upon the governors and legislatures of these states. And, as many diaries pointed out, several large Catholic institutions have contraceptive coverage in their health plans as well, including DePaul University of Chicago. I also saw comments that wondered why the American Catholic hierarchy seems to have "turned" on President Obama after being so supportive of him in other areas. I think a political decision was made to "turn" on Obama to help defeat him in his reelection bid. I think the bishops are frightened to death that, in his second term, he will have one or more SCOTUS judges to appoint, which would further protect Roe from being overturned. Look at what SCOTUS is doing right now....rehearing "settled" issues like the Voting Rights Act and Affirmative Action. Is it too much to think the conservatives would like another shot at Roe? But overturning Roe would be difficult without one or two more conservative justices. There must be a Republican in the White House to get more conservatives on the bench and overturn Roe. Obama's reelection and ability to appoint moderate justices will either kill overturn of Roe or delay it a very long time. The bishops are so close to the overturn of Roe, they can taste it. And that's the end game here, not attacking birth control, but defeating Obama so Roe can be history.

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  •  Tip Jar (4+ / 0-)
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    This whole world's wild at heart and weird on top....Lula

    by anninla on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 07:00:58 PM PST

  •  Actually Roe's Middle Game. Also Griswold (6+ / 0-)

    and more. They want birth control outlawed, they want stricter media censorship as they had in the 30's.

    Anything having to do with sex, families and reproduction, they want strictly obeying their commands.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 07:03:39 PM PST

    •  reading the Catholic take on sin, both venial and (0+ / 0-)

      cardinal, it seems that if we accept Church doctrine for the basis of our laws, masturbation and any other form of sex or sexual practice which is not directly meant for procreation purposes only are cardinal sins.  While wet dreams are currently considered kosher by the Catholic brass, conscious sexual dreaming may be considered a cardinal sin.
      I have not read in detail but it appears that there can even be a conflict in the conjugal bed if the sex, which is for the purpose of procreation, may also be sinful if it is pleasurable and if the primary goal of such activity is pleasure with procreation being a secondary goal.
      It takes a celibate sort of person to dream up some of these restrictions but after all a practicing lesbian was recently denied Communion and it appears masturbators may also be denied Sacraments  

  •  Disagree (1+ / 0-)
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    Since banning contraception is more extreme than banning abortion, overturning Roe is only the first step — far, far , far from an endgame.

    Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07.

    by anastasia p on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 07:12:24 PM PST

    •  They have no shot at banning contraception (2+ / 0-)
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      all together. If Griswold is overturned, only a few states would be able to go against their citizens and ban contraception. But Griswold's "right to privacy" leads to Roe, and that is their ultimate goal. Then they can work on banning contraceptives state by state.

      This whole world's wild at heart and weird on top....Lula

      by anninla on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 07:26:37 PM PST

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      •  it is the strategy of abortion opponents (0+ / 0-)

        they have no plan to ban contraception altogether but plan on using the issue to raise cash and to pressure pols and to chip away at existing laws and statutes so getting contraception is as difficult and embarrassing as possible.  Imagine if all Catholic pharmacists were ordered to cease dispensing all contraceptives under threat of excommunication

  •  They want it all. (4+ / 0-)
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    raincrow, G2geek, Agent99, anninla

    Roe overturned, birth control banned, anything and everything that will take us back to the dark ages and turn the planet into a polluted, industrialized dystopian hell.

    I'm generalizing about who the "they" is - but the various aspects of regressive ideology do tend to be older, white and male in support of the oligarchy.

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    by jan4insight on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 07:20:45 PM PST

  •  Wrong. End game is Griswold! (1+ / 0-)
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    "Ronald Reagan is DEAD! His policies live on but we're doing something about THAT!"

    by leftykook on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 07:20:48 PM PST

  •  Saw it all coming thirty years ago, when I first (1+ / 0-)
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    In my estimation, there ultimately are only two possibilities. The Right to Privacy is either made explicit, or a reactionary Court takes it away, and, with that, all of the other nicities that we've all taken for granted for so long.

    There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

    by oldpotsmuggler on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 08:34:54 PM PST

  •  It's the money (0+ / 0-)

    The Catholic church has no future in a truly progressive world so they naturally cling to the only thing they know; power, and their payment to power is their easily controlled followers. The Church has been doing this for centuries, aninia. Roe is definitely a stepping stone and milestone marker, but I'm thinking 'rule of thumb' and 'barefoot and pregnant' are every bit as applicable to the Church's twisted reasoning.
    In the end, however, it comes down to a mutual need to keep things as they are. So the Church is naturally going to side with the oligarchy, where their dogma carries legislative backers, the money is easy and curiosity is outlawed.

  •  How right you are.... (0+ / 0-)
    In the end, however, it comes down to a mutual need to keep things as they are.
    The Church administration has suffered mightily since women left their pregnant-and-cooking status.  Nuns are in short supply; schools have to close because there's no free nun-labor and precious few female volunteers; church activities run by women-volunteers have closed; and in just a few generations fewer Catholic babies has meant fewer parishioners in the pews in the countries that traditionally funded the church world-wide.  Fewer schools and churches means a lower profile for a church administration that really only knows how to flourish at the neighborhood level.

    Keeping reproductive power out of the hands of women means keeping most power out of their hands.

    I think the American Bishops took this opening at the federal level because they truly hate Obama.  But it also feeds their larger agenda.  

    Roe would be a nice stepping stone for the Bishops ... but power over women truly is the end game.

    Disclaimer:  I am a Catholic.  

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