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Yep, the word 'Atheists" is too controversial for the County of Lackawanna Transit System.

I really wish the mere mention of my disbelief wasn't somehow a controversial topic, but apparently it is.

Oh, but it get's better.  From the link:

Funny, that is. COLTS runs "God Bless America" on their scrolling tickers which are supposed to relay route information and has also run an ad saying "Consider works!" Interestingly enough, the "Consider works!" ad has been REMOVED from COLTS' website (you can, though, see a picture of it below); the ad was previously in the gallery of sample ads, but it is no longer there. An ad for "Old Forge Times" -- an overtly political site containing links to Holocaust denialist websites and white supremacist information -- had also appeared on COLTS' buses.
I would say more but I'm at a loss for words right now.

Yay for freedom of religion.

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  •  Tip Jar (9+ / 0-)

    There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

    by AoT on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 02:59:40 PM PST

  •  The link leads to an error (6+ / 0-)
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    AoT, lgmcp, mslat27, blueoasis, ubertar, ZenTrainer

    Maybe you can just tell us what you are talking about?

    I've seen that work in other diaries ...

    Am I right, or am I right? - The Singing Detective

    by Clem Yeobright on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 03:04:28 PM PST

  •  atheists are worse than child molesters (4+ / 0-)

    because at least priests share in our collective sky fairy delusion!  


    Progressive Candidate Obama (now - Nov 6, 2012)
    Bipartisan Obama returns (Nov 7, 2012)

    by The Dead Man on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 03:14:10 PM PST

  •  It is pretty weird (5+ / 0-)

    how backward it all is.  Religious tolerance is a ruddy old bastard hiding a torch and some kindling - dressed up in a nice sunday suit.

    All faiths are fine as long as none of them contradict basic Xtian beliefs.

    But ye of no faith, ye are lowest of the low, worse than mormons, worse than muslims.

    You are not to be trusted. Not believing is a sin, a pestulence, and infectious  disease that will rot your soul.

  •  Help me understand (2+ / 0-)
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    alguien, Brown Thrasher

    As I have been led to understand it, atheism is not a belief - it is the lack of a belief.  It is not an identity any more than not drinking carrot juice is an identity/

    While I agree that a paid bus ad for atheism ought to. E allowed if a church bus ad would be, I guess I am having a hard time understanding the diarist feeling that his disbelief was not being honored.  There are all sorts of things I don't believe.  It doesn't hurt me if my lack of belief is not validated.

    Dare to win in 2012

    by snout on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 03:20:47 PM PST

    •  you're right (2+ / 0-)
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      imsodizzy, Brown Thrasher

      calling atheism a belief is like calling the power button on your remote control another channel.

      hope springs eternal and DAMN is she getting tired!

      by alguien on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 03:24:32 PM PST

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    •  It isn't about validation or being honored (8+ / 0-)

      It is about the fact that who I am is so horrible that you can't even put a description of it on a bus for fear of controversy.  And that's not even taking into account the fact that a majority of people in this country follow religions that believe I deserve to be tortured forever regardless of who I am or what I do.

      There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

      by AoT on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 03:28:21 PM PST

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    •  Atheism is not a belief (3+ / 0-)
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      AoT, ubertar, Andrew F Cockburn

      It most certainly can be an identity. That's silly. Have you heard of asexuality? It's a legitimate sexual identification based on the lack of sexual desire. What about being anti-war? You're labeling yourself based on the desire to not go to war.

      There are plenty of identities and groups defined by not doing something that mainstream society does.

      Your "well, I'M not offended!" line is dangerously close to special snowflake-ism, the old trope that if I'm not offended, no one else is allowed to be either.

      Proud supporter of nuclear power!

      by zegota on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 03:34:13 PM PST

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      •  I'm not sure (0+ / 0-)

        Antiwar strikes me as more of that opinion that an identity lack of sexual desire on the other hand is a dysfunction I don't think I would call AC/DC is in the dysfunction. That presupposes the idea that beliefin God is the "functional" state.

        No I am not arguing that one cannot offended simply because I do not.  I am just trying to understand the diarist's perspective.

        Dare to win in 2012

        by snout on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 05:00:20 PM PST

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        •  Wow (1+ / 0-)
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          lack of sexual desire on the other hand is a dysfunction I don't think I would call AC/DC is in the dysfunction
          That is incredibly offensive. In what way is asexuality a "dysfunction" that, say, homosexuality is not?

          Proud supporter of nuclear power!

          by zegota on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 06:13:19 PM PST

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          •  Wow indeed (0+ / 0-)

            How odd to equate homosexuality with asexuality.  A homosexual person functions perfectly well sexually.  They are simPly oriented differently than the majority.  An asexual person does not function sexually.

            My thyroid does not function.  I don't shy away from calling it a dysfunction.  That is what it is.

            Dare to win in 2012

            by snout on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 08:24:14 PM PST

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    •  Atheism: a doctrine that this is no deity (2+ / 0-)
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      AoT, Andrew F Cockburn

      It is as much a belief or a certainty that there is a deity.  

      One might define monotheism as a disbelief or lack of belief in multiple deities or as a belief or certainty that there is only one deity.   Depends on who spins it, I suppose.

      One can spin belief or disbelief as a defining characteristic of many things:

      I don't believe that the power button on my remote control is another channel.  

      "Out of Many, One." This is the great promise of our nation -9.75 -6.87

      by Uncle Moji on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 03:46:29 PM PST

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    •  I don't think that's entirely accurate (2+ / 0-)
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      txcatlin, Andrew F Cockburn

      It's splitting hairs, I'm sure, but there is a qualitative difference between saying "I don't believe in God" and saying "I believe that God does not exist." I think what many people fail to understand is that many self-described atheists don't even like the term "atheist" itself, because it still defines them according to their belief or disbelief in something that they feel is irrelevant. It's not that atheists disbelieve in God, or gods; it's that they believe in methods of logic, reason, and scientific evidence that happen to so far fail utterly to prove conclusively that such deities exist. Without that, it's just another opinion. Like conservatives categorically disbelieving everything Obama says.

      Sarcasm was my first language. If you find my accent offensive, I am sorry. No, really.

      by ThothXXI on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 04:30:00 PM PST

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      •  Agnostic is the word you are looking for. (0+ / 0-)

        "Atheist" means having no god. That is, denying that gods exist. By the way, this is what the Romans called the early Christians and was the reason why they persecuted them. The Christians refused to worship the gods of the cities and the empire and therefore put everyone at risk because a pissed off god might take revenge. Atheism was treason. The Romans didn't care whether you worshiped other gods also.

        "Agnostic" means having no knowledge. That is, not believing in any specific gods or religions because one has no way of knowing which are correct.

        •  I don't think agnostic cuts it in the context (0+ / 0-)

          described by Thoth. I think it's more that placing a definitive label regarding the matter is superflous because it's like calling someone an 'aphilatelist' because they don't collect stamps. If being religious is simply not part of who you are it can feel intrusive to be labeled in relation to it.

    •  Many atheists are (0+ / 0-)

      humanists and/or involved in political issues in education or church/state separation.

  •  I have no need for a word... (4+ / 0-)

    I have no need for a word that simply means a person who is not delusional.

    That Giant Sucking Sound Is Wall Street Billionaires Drinking Your Blood.

    by olo on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 03:22:58 PM PST

  •  How refreshing (to me anyway) (1+ / 0-)
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    It would be to hear a politician say " I intend to solve our very human problems with very human time, effort, will, and money...if any sky fairy wants to help, well, they can follow our lead, but no getting in the way"

    In the beginning there was nothing...which exploded.

    by lucysdad on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 04:30:31 PM PST

  •  I don't get how the Adoption one is controversial. (2+ / 0-)
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    Andrew F Cockburn, AoT

    I was raised an atheist and I'm still an atheist. I also think adoption is a great way to get a kid if you so desire.

    My belief that there are too many people in the world and that no one has any business adding to that is probably controversial.

    But "Adopt. It works."? I don't see the controversy there.

    Tracy B Ann - technically that is my signature.

    by ZenTrainer on Wed Feb 29, 2012 at 07:30:23 PM PST

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