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Democratic House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer's pivot back to austerity, in coordination with the Wall Street think tank Third Way, poses a real threat to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

It's also not smart politics, when Democrats are winning the debate in keeping Medicare, in particular, strong. The Republicans remain committed to privatizing Medicare and turning it into a voucher program that would cost seniors more out of pocket. And it would allow Republicans to repeat their 2010 play—running to the left of Democrats on Medicare.

It's not just Medicare, however, that Hoyer would have in his "grand bargain" sights. Cuts to Social Security and Medicaid would assuredly be on his bargaining table. He's already suggested raising the retirement age to 70.

When pressed by progressive groups to clarify that he will not target important safety net programs in his new austerity grand bargain, Hoyer's office gave TPM this milquetoast statement:

“Mr. Hoyer was clear that we need to take action on long-term deficit reduction to avoid the crippling effects that sequestration will have on domestic programs—including Medicare—starting next year,” says his communications director Katie Grant. “We should do so in a balanced way that includes significant new revenues, ensuring that the wealthiest among us pay their fair share so that we can continue to invest in the programs that help the most vulnerable among us.”
Note the refusal to say that he intends to protect those programs from his deficit cutting. Hoyer needs to follow the lead of President Obama, and leave the austerity talk behind. And that includes his efforts for a grand bargain. A grand bargain, by the way, that he wants to push through in the lameduck session, after the elections. That just makes the whole proposal far more cynical and dangerous—the idea that it will be done after the American people has the opportunity to weigh in with their votes. It's the typical behind-closed-doors ploy politicians like Hoyer love.

Tell Steny Hoyer: Don't make any  backroom deals that include cuts to Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid benefits.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 10:09 AM PST.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  My Third Rail (16+ / 0-)

    This is the absolute bar for me.  The Democratic Party loses any chance of a vote from me if they follow the Hoyer agenda on these most foundational social programs.

    •  It's not the "Democratic Party" , greenbell (2+ / 0-)
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      TampaCPA, whaddaya

      It's Steny Hoyer.  The way to make change isn't to run from challenges, but to work to transform the situation into the one that you want.  Register Demcratic voters.  Find a good candidate to work for.  Etc.

      Let Steny know how you feel and talk to others to do the same.

      The Republicans have been plodding along in every way they can to push their agenda for 30 years and now we are reaping the results of not challenging them.  They don't give up and they won't.  We shouldn't either.  Think of all the hard work in Wisconsin on the recalls, hours spent gathering signatures and protesting over a long haul.  And now working for Democratic candidates they want.

      I encourage you to press on, let your voice be heard and keep working for issues that are important to you.

      “The only thing that happens in an instant is destruction … everything else requires time.” ~ First Lady, Michelle Obama

      by ParkRanger on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 01:28:03 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  it wasn't long ago that (9+ / 0-)

        most of the Dem leadership was talking about austerity and sacrifices.

        It was Occupy that put a stop to all that talk, not the Dem party leadership.

        Steny shows that the agenda is still there, hiding until they think it's safe to come out again.

        •  oh, baloney. It's still individuals. It's not (0+ / 0-)

          the whole party and it doesn't help to run from it and not vote.

          “The only thing that happens in an instant is destruction … everything else requires time.” ~ First Lady, Michelle Obama

          by ParkRanger on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 02:59:28 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

      •  No, it's not just Steny. This line is almost (3+ / 0-)
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        0wn, gooderservice, 3goldens

        identicle to Obama's and as the leader of the party, it's their official position:

        “We should do so in a balanced way that includes significant new revenues, ensuring that the wealthiest among us pay their fair share so that we can continue to invest in the programs that help the most vulnerable among us.”
        There will be compromise.  But very importantly, Dems must START FROM THE FAR LEFT, then negotiate.
        •  splinter, your quote does not support the (0+ / 0-)

          position that there will be cuts to SS.  It says new revenues from the wealthiest that will help the vulnerable.  That says nothing about cutting SS or medicare/medicade.

          “The only thing that happens in an instant is destruction … everything else requires time.” ~ First Lady, Michelle Obama

          by ParkRanger on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 03:01:11 PM PST

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          •  Correct. I'm referring to any "balanced approach" (0+ / 0-)

            in regards to:

            “Mr. Hoyer was clear that we need to take action on long-term deficit reduction to avoid the crippling effects that sequestration will have on domestic programs—including Medicare—starting next year,”
            The diary is about this "action" to go about reducing the deficit.

            That will involve negotiations.

      •  Outcomes (1+ / 0-)
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        3goldens

        Hoyer is a party leader.  I will hold the party responsible for outcomes.  It's not just Hoyer.  Just try to get Klobuuchar on the record against cutting benefits.  We deserve to know where they stand before the election.  I'm 61.  Sure some people can work till 70 but when you are my age you know many who cannot or who are already faced with caregiving for an older spouse or even very old parents.  I will vote on this issue.

      •  Hoyer can't do this alone (0+ / 0-)

        I don't get to vote for Hoyer, but I do get to decide what to do about my Democratic representative, Mike Michaud.  He has frequently been a supporter of the sort of politics Hoyer practices, and so has lent the Democratic brand to what seems to me to be profoundly unDemocratic ideas.  I will be writing to Michaud about just how toxic this sort of language is to him and assuming that I get to attend a meeting with Michaud in the course of his campaign, he will be getting a public question about it.  That may not be working for the Democratic candidate (my support is not unconditional), but it is pressing on.

    •  Really, you're going to withdraw your votes for (1+ / 0-)
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      splintersawry

      Democrats if they bump the retirement age up to 70 from 67 over something like 30 years?

      I guess that's an option available to you... I just don't know what it will accomplish.

      •  if the Republicans did the same thing (2+ / 0-)
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        judyms9, irmaly

        would you support it?

        •  Who says anything about supporting it? (0+ / 0-)

          If you want influence, you have to vote. If you don't vote, you're not represented at all, and nobody cares about you.

          If you vote for third-party, your vote won't count until one of the 2 major party tries to absorb them. The two major parties look at these parties and consider absorbing them based on the political costs of doing so. Those political costs depend heavily on whether the third-party is organized around a reletively few number of issues (one issue works the best) - making it easy to change the platform to pursuade new voters to vote for them. So, unless not raising the retirement age for people now being born is your #1 issue, you're not going to accomplish much by voting third-party.

          If this isn't your top issue, you're going to vote for the better of the two major parties.

      •  The Democratic Party is a party not a Religion (0+ / 0-)

        I may put up with the Catholic Church despite vehement disagreement on issues.  I won't do the same for a political party.  If it's not about representation on CORE issues, it's about nothing.  I don't vote for them as a matter of faith.

        •  It's not a matter of faith... (0+ / 0-)

          It's a matter of who more closely aligns with my ideals. You get a D or R choice. Or sit out. Or vote 3rd party. Churchill would say "Voting D is the worst option... except for all those others."

          •  It'll be Martin Luther time for me (0+ / 0-)

            If Democrats sell out Social Security, it'll be time for the Reformation.

            •  If they dismantle it, yeah... (0+ / 0-)

              If they change the retirement age to 70 instead of 67 for people born after 1980, and who, by the way, are expected to live almost 6 more years than people born in 1950... that's the reformation time for you?

              I mean, I'd have picked their tepid support for and enabling of the war in Iraq that killed more Americans than bin Laden did. Not to mentioned the Iraqis. Fuck them, right? It's our kids having to work 3 out of the 6 more years our sacrifices and investments in science, medicine and technology have given them. That's where we make our stand against the Democrats.

              Please...

      •  I guarantee you I will withdraw votes (2+ / 0-)
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        greenbell, LansingDan

        I'm 59 years old and am hanging on trying to get to 65. A bump to 70 is devastating for me, and I won't vote for anyone who does this to me no matter who they are. And I promise you I am not alone. Just like you see women bailing on the Republicans now over birth control, you will see both men and women bailing over this.

        "Whenever a fellow tells me he's bipartisan, I know he's going to vote against me."-- Harry S. Truman

        by irmaly on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 03:24:34 PM PST

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    •  The Dems better get this right! (2+ / 0-)
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      irmaly, PorridgeGun

      Rachel Maddow did a study of the last few presidents and congresses the other night on her program.  On a whole range of issues the Dems are becoming more conservative, ceding ground to the right.   I can only speak for myself but I refuse to sacrifice our social programs to the wingers.  I won't do it for anyone, not even my beloved Democratic Party.  Steny Hoyer and the Dems better get with the program and take a stand for core Democratic Party principles or they will have a major mutiny on their hands this election year.

  •  Steny is the kind of guy who is not swayed (7+ / 0-)

    by liberals calling or writing. He has written us off, packaged us into a little box labelled "IGNORE" and only when necessary, will mouth some appeasing words, like when he seeks campaign donations or a vote.

    What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

    by agnostic on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 10:56:53 AM PST

  •  Shame that Steny is Lady in Waiting (3+ / 0-)
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    ZedMont, TampaCPA, 3goldens

    waiting, that is, for the day Pelosi steps aside. Who would want him to be Speaker?

  •  Steny is an asshat. (13+ / 0-)

    He's an embarrassment.  He should retire, and hopefully we can get someone competent to replace him.  But he needs to go.  He just not helping.

    In an insane society, the sane man would appear insane

    by TampaCPA on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 01:48:04 PM PST

  •  Anyone willing to primary Steny? (10+ / 0-)

    More and better Democrats does not include DINOs in leadership positions.

    There's no such thing as a free market!

    by Albanius on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 01:55:11 PM PST

  •  Tipped & rec'ed (3+ / 0-)
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    pgm 01, We Won, 3goldens

    The radical Republican party is the party of oppression, fear, loathing and above all more money and power for the people who robbed us.

    by a2nite on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 01:57:10 PM PST

  •  Pardon my language but (10+ / 0-)

    What the Fuck Steny‽
    The fact that democrats may actually be heading in a direction to win was too much to handle so you decided to pull out this crap‽

    Take your third way, third rail crap and join the Republicans on the dark side, we don't need that over here.  We need to be building up this nation, not dismantling it and if you can't see that it means it is time for you to exit politics and take that lobbying job you must have already lined up for yourself.

  •  amazing (6+ / 0-)
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    pgm 01, 0wn, Hastur, 3goldens, judyms9, irmaly

    Even as the Repugs  self-destruct spectacularly, the Dems are determined to become Repug-Lites.

    I think the death of both major parties is not far away.

  •  Why Pelosi doesn't muzzle Hoyer has always (6+ / 0-)
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    humphrey, pgm 01, fly, Hastur, 3goldens, fsbohnet

    been a puzzlement to me. He's so blue dog, I feel like sending him a can of Alpo for a campaign contribution.

    A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism. -Carl Sagan

    by jo fish on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 02:02:24 PM PST

    •  I don't think she can muzzle him. (2+ / 0-)
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      0wn, dankester

      The Republicans are not the only ones who have too many subgroups under their tent.  Hoyer represents the Blue Dogs and as such would not listen to somebody from the "left" like Pelosi.  I think every dog deserves a good home and he and the rest of the Blue Dogs would be much better suited as part of a reborn moderate Republican party.

      •  Yeah, in our system Pelosi probably IS.... (2+ / 0-)
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        fsbohnet, pgm 01

        ... from the "left". But what a sad commentary that is, when someone who's actually more of a moderate on most issues is the best we can hope for. (n/i the few like Bernie, of course, who will NEVER be allowed into a position of real power)

        "Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media." -- Noam Chomsky

        by ratmach on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 03:05:35 PM PST

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    •  I think she gives him just enough rope (0+ / 0-)

      to make a fool of himself with. She knows what she's doing.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 02:06:46 PM PST

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  •  This zombie lie just won't die (9+ / 0-)

    That Social Security contributes to the deficit. It doesn't. It just doesn't. Anyone who says otherwise is either lying or ignorant. Hoyer is lying, and he knows it.

    And most likely he's doing this not so much because he really cares about Social Security or the deficit but because, being the vain fool that he is, he actually believes that coming across as being a deficit "hawk" (more like vulture) makes for good politics. Plus it doesn't hurt the flow of campaign donations from Wall St. And I suspect that he's hoping against hope to become the next speaker, should Dems retake the house. Like I said, he's a vain fool.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 02:06:16 PM PST

    •  And he would be wrong. (1+ / 0-)
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      3goldens
      coming across as being a deficit "hawk" (more like vulture) makes for good politics

      We delivered. They failed us. We have moved on. (h/t to my good friend)

      by gooderservice on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 02:22:44 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Yes it does. You used to be right in that it (2+ / 0-)
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      3goldens, ratmach

      didn't contribute to the deficit but that was before the semi-permanent payroll tax holiday.  Since the lost payroll tax money is made up by general funds, Social Security does contribute to the deficit now.  Why do you think so many people here were against the whole payroll tax cut/holiday to begin with?

      There is no saving throw against stupid.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 02:25:15 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  I'm still right, essentially (3+ / 0-)
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        3goldens, ratmach, fsbohnet

        This fiscal sleight of hand is a trick and anyone who dares use this "yes, but" as a way to justify cutting social security will get destroyed, politically.

        And yes, that includes Obama, if he is foolish enough to try after reelection.

        "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

        by kovie on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 02:40:25 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  Forgive my language, I'm a severely challenged (0+ / 0-)

    citizen.  Challenged by the myths, propaganda, and lies delivered to US by our government, the media, and internet sources; the word maverick is laughable.

    I prefer American Revolution Rebels (without the violence, remember, I believe the power of the word is greater than than the power of the sword)

    This wasn't the song I was looking for, but it fits.
    Nine Inch Nails:

    •  And I won't post the video, but... (0+ / 0-)

      .... Head Like a Hole would work quite well too.

      "Bow down before the one you serve. You're going to get what you deserve!"

      "Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media." -- Noam Chomsky

      by ratmach on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 03:09:10 PM PST

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  •  I'm tired of hearing about cuts to (9+ / 0-)

    Social Security and Medicare.

    Eliminate the damn cap on FICA taxes and be done with it.

    That way you don't have to try to means test who gets Social Security.   I don't see a realistic way to do the means testing.   I mean you could have billionaires taking no salary for that year and being eligible for Social Security, while some middle class couple who smartly saved and built a big nest egg but took lots of profits one year would get denied.

    Just let everyone keep getting the benefits and make the rich pay more while they are raking in their dough.

    Also, reclassifying certain profit as income rather than as capital gains (like Willard does now with Bain) would allow FICA taxes on a lot more income thus filling the coffers of the programs even more.

    Finally, getting health care costs under control is not only required to fix the looming medicare and medicaid fiscal problems but also is needed for everyday working Americans.

  •  Raise (4+ / 0-)
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    fly, 0wn, 3goldens, judyms9

    taxes on the rich. Make corporations pay taxes.

    Cut the military spending in half or there will be riots.

    I see it coming.

  •  Steny should start first (5+ / 0-)
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    0wn, Hastur, 3goldens, judyms9, PorridgeGun

    He should relinquish any claims to any pension resulting from his government service and give up his government provided health care.

  •  Steny Hoyer, I don't want to know you. (in either (1+ / 0-)
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    3goldens

    a biblical or political definition)

  •  My god (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    PorridgeGun

    we just have moron dems.  What is the strength of our party (diversity & inclusiveness) is also the weakness.

    •  It just makes me sick... (2+ / 0-)
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      PorridgeGun, fsbohnet

      ... to think about the opportunity, the once in a lifetime opportunity, we had after the '08 election. The Repugs were on the verge of becoming totally and forevermore irrelevant. But our brave Dems, from the top on down, wanted no part of that. And now it's not just the Repugs fighting for relevance.

      "Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media." -- Noam Chomsky

      by ratmach on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 03:15:17 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Do we need to get a megaphone (3+ / 0-)
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    Hastur, 3goldens, LansingDan

    or do mic check outside of his office?

    NO,NO,NO,NO, STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.  WRONG, WRONG, WRONG...

    Wake the ...up Steny!!!!

  •  You can support Democrats without (1+ / 0-)
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    Hastur

    supporting Hoyer. Start making donations through Super PACs. You don't have to be a millionaire to do it.

  •  Tell me again why I have to tell (11+ / 0-)

    MY political party's Democratic House Minority:

    Don't make deals to cut Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid'
    If he doesn't know that already, then all hope really is lost for this party.

    We delivered. They failed us. We have moved on. (h/t to my good friend)

    by gooderservice on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 02:21:28 PM PST

  •  Steny is a slut (2+ / 0-)
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    Hastur, PorridgeGun

    However, I do not wish to see videos of him having sex.

  •  asdf (3+ / 0-)
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    ratmach, emal, fsbohnet
    Note the refusal to say that he intends to protect those programs from his deficit cutting. Hoyer needs to follow the lead of President Obama, and leave the austerity talk behind.
    The naivety about Obama is so entrenched as to suggest delusion. HOYER IS FOLLOWING THE LEAD OF OBAMA! As I and others have predicted, Obama is like a dog with a bone who won't let go when it comes to imposing austerity bigtime on the 99% - he's OBSESSED with sticking it to the 99% and he won't leave office until's he's significantly undermined Social Security and Medicare. He keeps dragging the Catfood Commission up from the dead in various secretive and not-so-secretive guises and using various surrogates; Hoyer's version would be CATFOOD COMMISSION version VI.  

    There are BIG PAYOFFS to Obama personally in sticking it to the 99%, not  just because it would remind the little people who has the power and who wields the big stick-remember who he picked to chair his "Fiscal 'Responsibility' Summit" - that's right, Pete Peterson, Mr. Austerity/Would-be-privatizeer-of-SS-Medicare-galore/Bilionaire Hedgefunder who lavishly rewards those who do their part to undermine what's left America's social safety net. Obama knows who has the $$$, and it isn't those clinging to their meagre Social Security checks.

    "It depends what the meaning of 'is', is"
    Platform of the Neo-Democratic Party
    Speaking out of one side of their mouth for the little guy, their nominal constituency, and the other for the plutocracy, their real constituency.

    by Sanctimonious on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 02:28:22 PM PST

    •  Where do you get the idea Obama is obsessed (0+ / 0-)

      with sticking it to the 99%?  It's true Obama chose all the wrong advisors the first couple of years into his presidency, but he believed there was value in bipartisanship then.  He has learned otherwise.  I doubt that he will chip away at the social safety net, especially now that so many must rely on it and because it's obvious that the RW wants every last nickel of middle class assets to be handed over to them immediately.  If draconian measures are put in place Obama will preside over the unrest of the 1960's all over again--and with the violence, not just singing and drumming, now that our police departments have been militarized.

    •  I don't think it's naivety. I think it's denial. (0+ / 0-)

      Oh, and for some people it's more along the lines of excuse-making (otherwise known as hypocrisy).

      "Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media." -- Noam Chomsky

      by ratmach on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 03:22:55 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Hoyer is bad but the Republicans are worse. (0+ / 0-)
  •  Thank God for Pelosi (1+ / 0-)
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    PorridgeGun

    Who can keep this guy from ever moving into the #1 slot. But if Dems gain a bunch of seats in the South and Midwest again and Pelosi ever retires, who can stop Steny from moving up?

  •  A bit defeated (2+ / 0-)
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    fsbohnet, LansingDan

    Watching all the outrage and number of diaries rightly rallying around the despicable mouth and words that have emanated from one Rush Limbaugh here...

    But  this very worrisome and highly important diary gets fewer comments....maybe fewer eyes and responses? Sigh

    Perhaps it is all in the timing....but just want to thank you Joan once again for highlighting this most important issue.

    I signed  the action page petition...at least it's something.

    The Current democratic leadership theme song, death by a thousand cuts to the masses ...with actions like this.

    It certainly reinforces my belief that they are not on our side...99 %. Government of, for, and by the 1%...and that these members deciding the fate of millions all get lifetime paid benefits and pensions...damn them all.
    austerity for  thee ...but no for me....ugh!
    Our system is corrupted and broken and not truly representative . ...we are losing the class war.

    The Plutocratic States of America, the best government the top 1% and corporations can buy. We are the 99%-OWS.

    by emal on Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 03:58:49 PM PST

  •  I would amend your call for action a bit (1+ / 0-)
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    fsbohnet

    No cuts to Social Security.  However, since it's now going to be very difficult to ever get rid of the 2% cut in the rate, raise the FICA ceiling to compensate for the lost revenue.

    No increases to the Medicare eligibility age and no throwing the working poor out of Medicaid.  But by all means, look for cost control measures that don't deny needed care: tougher negotiation on drug prices, better studies about which drugs and procedures are effective and which aren't, and limit insurance companies' ability to profiteer.  We do need to restrain the amount of money spent, and other countries regularly demonstrate that we can have a healthier population with everyone covered and spend less money.

  •  Why is it necessary to petition Congress (1+ / 0-)
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    LansingDan

    to do what is obviously the correct thing to do?

  •  Joan, we love you (0+ / 0-)

    Joan,

    Thank you for your assiduous work.

    Nancy Pelosi must clearly state her opposition to any cuts in benefits to recipients of entitlement programs.

    The benefits in these programs must be inviolable if not fortified.

  •  How to End the Deficit (0+ / 0-)

    The deficit that matters is the trade deficit. The federal government here can't balance it's budget when our trade budget is regularly broke. We can't afford to package up and send $300 billion to China every year and still get our fiscal house in order.

    If Rep. Hoyer wants to make himself useful, he can go to work on these overdue fixes for the deficit:

    (1) An international minimum wage equal to 25% of our domestic minimum wage and going up by 2% or more each year, and,
    (2) A uniform tariff of 10% on all products produced elsewhere and sold here.
    This is the minimum necessary to fix our trade deficit.

    Right now, you are earning one-half of what you should be earning. Since the 1970s, wages for non-supervisory workers have dropped 8% but worker productivity has gone up over 80%. Since wages have traditionally tracked productivity, this means that you are literally earning one-half of what you would have been with a sound trade policy--if you have a job at all.

    Tell Hoyer to get to work on the trade deficit. This is the deficit that matters, because our national policy of shipping wealth-producing jobs overseas is impoverishing the country.

    Just look at your earnings for 2011 if you don't believe me.

  •  Right. (0+ / 0-)

    Steny Hoyer is the guy with a hardon for a grand bargain.  He's the one we have to worry about. Not Obama.... he's with us.  Always has been.

  •  Hoyer (0+ / 0-)

    I live in MARYLAND and I believe Hoyer can NEVER, NEVER, Ever be trusted. He is MORE REPUBLICAN then DEMOCRAT. He is a MILLIONAIR many times over and HE thinks like MITT ROMNEY. This is one PERSON the DEMOCRATS should work on getting rid of.

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