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In an apparent response to two young girls who committed suicide in an effort to time travel, China has banned all Television themes dealing with time travel. China's economic growing pains have come at a high cost - with reports of that workers who make our beloved I-pads have been forced to sign 'no suicide' pledges.
From the article.

China Daily didn’t say what TV series is believed to have inspired the girl’s note and time-travel desires. In most of China’s time-travel dramas, characters visited earlier eras through non-fatal means, such as looking in the mirror, possessing certain antiques or attaining zero gravity by means of a magical material.

Nor was a longing for time travel the only factor in the Fujian tragedy. The China Daily report also said that one of the girls who committed suicide was fearful of going home because she had lost the remote control to her parents’ garage.

the consequences of this Orwellian ban raises interesting questions about the effects  China's economic ambitions on her people.
more below...

More on the children:

The children, both 12, drowned in a pond near their homes in the Fujian city of Zhangzhou last week, leaving behind a suicide note in which one girl indicated her death was motivated by dreams of traveling to space and of shooting a film with the emperor of the Qing Dynasty, the report said.

Recalling debates in the U.S. about the link between violent video games and shooting incidents like those at Columbine High School and Virginia Tech, the China Daily report claims that incidents such as this one are what prompted the government’s move last year to ban all television series based on time travel.

A newspaper in southeast China reported on a survey that found 14 out of 16 elementary school students thought time-travel was possible. An earlier version of this post mistakenly identified the survey subjects as middle school students.

What does this say about average citizen's living conditions?
and it's not just the children.
Shows that explore traveling to earlier eras have inspired extremes among Chinese citizens, the China Daily story said. A woman in northern Liaoning province paid 1,800 yuan, or $285, to a friend who claimed she could help the Liaoning woman escape to an ancient era. After her friend suddenly disappeared with the money, the Liaoning woman reported the incident to the police, the report said.
I think this is a question we are all asking - is the race to money and material wealth at the cost of our environment and happiness worth it?

I can understand how the Chinese censors are banning these shows in an effort to save lives - but it sounds like 1984 to me.
the article hints at this as well:

Some media experts in China dispute the theory that TV-inspired suicides sparked the government’s ban, noting that it was more likely that officials disagreed with the themes of the shows, which centered on escaping discontent in the current era to journey back in time to a better life.
I personally love shows of time travel  - recently I watch a movie with an interesting theme - "in Time" with Justin Timberlake and Olivia Wilde - where people pay for everything with time.

It's an apt social commentary and when a society is so unpleasant that people are willing to commit suicide to escape to a more idealic period, then there is something wrong with that society - or even the entire economic model.
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  •  Huh? (3+ / 0-)

    I've always loved the idea of time travel because the idea of visiting another era is fun. I have no desire to return to a more idealic period permanently.

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    by JamieG from Md on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 11:57:26 AM PDT

  •  Doctor Who (5+ / 0-)

    My kids, ages 10 and 12, have been avid Doctor Who fans for years. As a result, they have been motivated on their own to learn as much as they can about the physic behind time travel theories in the real world. Last year, for example, my younger son, did a science fair project on black holes. And my older boy has read Stephen Hawkings book about the origins of time and universe. So it's a good thing.

  •  It is only a matter of time until (2+ / 0-)
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    wade norris, Gooserock

    time travel will be possible. Humans have a long history of accomplishing technological feats as long as their is a need or desire. And time travel has been a desire of humans for eons. It seems that the Chinese, as with most things, are a step ahead of us in this as well, with their young people perhaps being a bit TOO far ahead for their own good. With this new policy in China, it gives the West a chance at progressing with time travel faster than the Chinese. Will we take advantage of this, or will we drop the ball as we usually do?

    •  Ahead on What? Does There Exist a Theory of How (0+ / 0-)

      even a single atom could be sent into the past or future, other than slowing it down relativistically?

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 12:31:17 PM PDT

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      •  Not yet, but I'm sure there are people (0+ / 0-)

        working on it. It is only a matter of time before we figure all this out. In the world of technology, a decade is a long time; a century is a very long time. This may not be something any of us live to see, but our grandchildren will likely experience things we cannot even imagine today. Will time travel be one of them? Perhaps not for your average Joe, but I seriously doubt that it will not be available to the military or to wealthy adventurers.

        •  Impossible (3+ / 0-)
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          psyched, maybeeso in michigan, jayden

          The atoms that make up you will go to make up other things in the future. How could you take them out of the present and travel with them into a future where they already exist but are quite differently disposed?

          The past and future are not "places" that can be traveled to. They are varying configurations of the matter and energy we already have.

          "Given the fact of servitude, the feudal relationship is the only tolerable one." (George Orwell)

          by sagesource on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 12:48:06 PM PDT

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          •  If I knew these answers I'd have a Nobel (1+ / 0-)
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            Prize. I don't think it is worthwhile to have an argument about what will happen in the future, as there is no way to determine who is right. But you should know that taking the side of us NOT accomplishing something has been a losing position for the past 500 years or so. Most technology experts believe that we will make so much progress over the coming centuries that none of us is capable of even predicting what we will accomplish.

            We have no idea how we can make time travel for humans possible. And we won't have any idea, until the day comes that we figure it out. Then, like all discoveries, it will seem perfectly obvious.

            •  You are confusing two different "impossibles" (0+ / 0-)

              The first is technically impossible. It is technically impossible, right now, for us to colonize Mars. Such an endeavor, however, would not be logically incoherent. It would simply be too difficult for us to manage at this time, just as heavier than air flight was too difficult to manage in the 14th century.

              Time travel, however, involves logical impossibilities, the existence of highly organized entities from two different periods of the same universe at the same time. We're in 1 + 1 = 3 territory here. It's not just difficult; it's gibberish.

              "Given the fact of servitude, the feudal relationship is the only tolerable one." (George Orwell)

              by sagesource on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 03:32:55 PM PDT

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              •  In quantum field theory (0+ / 0-)

                the direction of time is arbitrary; it can go backwards or forwards. A particle and anti-particle, moving forward in time, can collide and annihilate each other; or, the same interaction can be described as a particle and anti-particle being created out of the vacuum, moving backward in time. Every Feynman diagram can be reversed with respect to time. We know that objects with a rest mass cannot accelerate to velocities greater than the speed of light; but that does not, in itself, make time travel impossible.

      •  Yes, but with a huge catch. All proposed time (1+ / 0-)
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        machines so far do not let you go back in time before it was constructed.  As a simple example of such a device, take an artificially constructed wormhole (theoretically possible) and send one of the ends on a relativistic space trip before having it return to Earth (or nearby, such as in orbit).  If you enter that end of the wormhole you will end up going back in time when you emerge from the end that wasn't subject to relativistic time dilation.  Even worse, the number of trips back in time is finite (and dependent on the size of the wormhole) with that method.

        There is no saving throw against stupid.

        by Throw The Bums Out on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 12:54:29 PM PDT

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    •  This is how you know (1+ / 0-)
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      jayden

      time travel will never be possible.
      Because, given the nature of man to fuck things up, they already woulda come back from the future and fucked up the timeline.

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      by kestrel9000 on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 01:32:56 PM PDT

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  •  the environmental movement in China points (5+ / 0-)

    to an awakening by many that the costs to their economic rise have been too severe.  I don't envy them their problems but then we are all in this together.

  •  There are 1.3 billion people in China.... (1+ / 0-)
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    jayden

    ....you can quite certainly find someone who believes in just about anything.

    It's more likely that the government has something against the futures to which these people are "traveling."

    "Given the fact of servitude, the feudal relationship is the only tolerable one." (George Orwell)

    by sagesource on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 12:45:21 PM PDT

  •  Nice themes and concepts tied together. (0+ / 0-)

    Is that first link working? I get a no server message.

    Thank you so  much.

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    by Regina in a Sears Kit House on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 12:53:24 PM PDT

  •  "Avatar" has triggered suicides too (1+ / 0-)
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    jayden

    The victims were either despondent that they don't live on that planet or were even hoping to be reincarnated as the aliens.

    Never attribute to stupidity what can be adequately explained by malice; stupid people couldn't hurt us so effectively.

    by Visceral on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 02:20:31 PM PDT

  •  hey, i thought we were aspiring to be like China (1+ / 0-)
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    jayden

    lol

    that's what a certain rec list diary had ppl saying the other week....

    (I'll be nice and stop.)

    "See? I'm not a racist! I have a black friend!"

    by TheHalfrican on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 02:26:23 PM PDT

  •  WTF? (0+ / 0-)

    No Star Trek:NG reruns in China? No Star Trek:Voyager? Stargate:Universe dabbled in time travel which left the characters more than a little perplexed by it all. I guess Fringe is out of the question too because it deals with alternate universes. And what about movies? 12 Monkeys used time travel to try and stop a modern day plague and who can resist Brad Pitt playing a crazy dude in an insane asylum?

    Maybe instead of cancelling sci-fi shows they should discover PSAs:

    This is your brain. This is NOT your brain in time travel. Because we can't time travel yet. No matter what Lee Chin down the street tells you. He's just a thief preying on your ignorance.


    Not this mind and not this heart, I won't rot • Mumford & Sons

    by jayden on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 02:57:45 PM PDT

  •  Not surprising they banned it after (2+ / 0-)
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    koNko, Trotskyrepublican

    the 2017 uprising led by the chrononauts.

  •  This is a really old story (0+ / 0-)

    China has a lot of poor people who are rather gullible and it's not unusual for them to be taken advantage of.

    The government approach to this is paternalistic, and at times, authoritarian, rather like some parents that will forbid children from doing something without explaining why.

    To put this in perspective, one should understand the Communist movement in China was a modernist movement that sought to educate people and stamp out superstitious beliefs that were considered regressive (and actually were).

    And for millennia, Chinese have acted in groups, campaigning for this or that, with our big character banners & slogans, etc.

    It's just Chinese. That's the way we are.

    What about my Daughter's future?

    by koNko on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 06:44:27 PM PDT

  •  It's not that different (0+ / 0-)

    than the deal with Beavis and Butthead no longer talking about fire.

    "A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer

    by CFAmick on Sun Mar 11, 2012 at 09:30:46 PM PDT

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