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    January 10, 2005: Marco Rubio Sponsored HB 0249 "Stand Your Ground" Law.  The same "Stand Your Ground" Law that, from what we've seen from the murder of Trayvon Martin, allows child predators, rapists and any other maniac stalker the right to kill their prey without risking arrest.

     April 26, 2005: Then Gov Jeb Bush signed the Bill into law.

     The "Stand Your Ground Law" is so barbaric that HB 0249 actually CREATED a Section for the Law ... yes, created a section for the law ... that actually dissuades and discourages police from arresting a person who claims: "self-defense" under the "Stand Your Ground Law" and where there are no direct eye-witnesses (see Created Section 776.032 (2) below)

     Oh, just when you thought Rubio/Bush Stand Your Ground Law couldn't get any worse ... it does ...

     Rubio/Bush Stand Your Ground Law also CREATED a Section for the Law that actually PROHIBITS Trayvon Martin's family from suing George Zimmerman in a Civil Trial --- oh yes it does prohibit that (see Created Section 776.032 (3) below).  

   Therefore, if a child predator, rapist or any other maniac stalker "get" their prey and if their prey try to fight them off, then the predator can kill their prey and claim: "self-defense" under "Stand Your Ground Law" and they won't even risk arrest and the predator would not be at risk for any criminal or civil penalty.  Neat huh?

     How disgusting to think that our children, spouses, brothers, sisters, grandparents, etc., are not safe when fending off a predator as the predator can kill our loved ones and merely claim: "self-defense" via the "Stand Your Ground" law ... I can hear the predator now, "Gee officer, that women was fighting me so I had to kill her."  

    Prior to Rubio/Bush Stand Your Ground Law, the "Castle Doctrine" established the circumstances under which a person can use physical force and deadly physical force to defend himself, property or someone else without being convicted for assault, manslaughter, or murder. The Castle Doctrine law did not explicitly address civil cases in which the injured person or his or her estate seeks damages caused by using force in self defense.

    But leave it to the NRA, ALEC and "Gun Owners of America" to create new sections of law:
- that prohibit families of victims to sue a murderer who claims self-defense and
- prohibits the arrest of an armed stalker who kills his prey if his prey tries to fight him off, and
- allow an armed predator to legally apply "self-defense" if they have stalked their prey and their prey tries to fight them off.

     Like I said above, Marco Rubio's HB 0249 actually CREATED a Section for the law that actually dissuades and discourages police from arresting murderers who claim "self-defense" under Stand Your Ground law and prohibits the family of a victim from suing the murderer in Civil Court.

150         Section 4.  Section 776.032, Florida Statutes, is created
151    to read:
152         776.032  Immunity from Criminal prosecution and Civil
153    action for justifiable use of force.--
154         (1)  A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s.
155    776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is
156    immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of
157    such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a
158    law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was
159    acting in the performance of his or her official duties and the
160    officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any
161    applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably
162    should have known that the person was a law enforcement officer.
163    As used in this subsection, the term "criminal prosecution"
164    includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or
165    prosecuting the defendant.
Created sub-section Prohibiting Arrest (causing cops to fear arresting murderers)
166         (2)  A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures
167    for investigating the use of force as described in subsection
168    (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using force
169    unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force
170    used was unlawful.
Created sub-section Prohibiting Civil Trial:
171         (3)  The court shall award reasonable attorney's fees,
172    court costs, compensation for loss of income, and all expenses
173    incurred by the defendant in defense of any civil action brought
174    by a plaintiff if the court finds that the defendant is immune
175    from prosecution as provided in subsection (1).
    All this means is as a result of Sanford Police closing their investigation on Trayvon Martin's murder on March 16 and saying they would not arrest or charge Zimmerman with Murder because they felt the evidence showed Trayvon Martin's murderer used self-defense -- Trayvon's parents would not be able to sue Zimmerman in Civil Court via Stand Your Ground Law Created Section 776.032.

     How about that!  IF: There had been no public outcry; THEN: The FBI nor DOJ would be involved and Trayvon Martin's family would have no legal recourse, at all, against a man who murdered their son because the Sanford Police closed their investigation and said Zimmerman acted within the Stand Your Ground Law.  

     Luckily, as it is currently, there is still hope Zimmerman will be arrested and charged with: Stalking and Murder of Trayvon Martin.

    As screwed up as Stand Your Ground Law is, Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush still defend the law and they just aren't sure if Zimmerman can use the law ... but ... they are still in favor of the law.

     Republican State's Rights Advocate Marco Rubio praised the FBI and DOJ taking over for his State's Law enforcement but still supports HIS "Protect the Predator Law":

RUBIO: "We don't know the details of whether that is even is a defense available to the individual involved.  Let's let the Justice Department  go in, these are professionals, they'll know what they're looking for -- before people rush to judgment on whether a change in law is necessary."

Rubio went on to say:
"I voted for it and I think there is rational behind it but we have no idea whether that applies at all in this case. I think that's very important to understand."

   Well, why doesn't Rubio have any idea of HIS law applies to Trayvon Martin's murder?  He sponsored the GD thing!  He should know that the law HE SPONSORED allows an armed stalker to kill their prey and claim self-defense because the law HE SPONSORED goes beyond the "Castle Doctrine" and is applied anywhere and to anyone who is "not engaged in an unlawful activity" and who has a so-called "legal right to be" anywhere.

Keywords: "not engaged in an unlawful activity"

   Therefore, in order to arrest or not arrest Zimmerman, Stand Your Ground Law ONLY allows police to answer ONE question:
Was Zimmerman "not engaged in an unlawful activity"

Not: Did Zimmerman just kill an unarmed child; but rather was Zimmerman engaged in "Unlawful activity" prior to claiming self-defense.

Florida "Stand Your Ground Law" Statute 776.012
"A person who is not engaged in an UNLawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.”
    Thus, Stand Your Ground Law wording makes it damn near impossible to arrest an armed stalker who kills their prey - especially if their prey tries to fight them off.
PREDATOR: "Oh yeah, my skin under that child's fingernails - see I told ya the kid attacked me - I had to kill him."

POLICE: Why were you following that kid?

PREDATOR: I thought he was up to know good, looked suspicious,  walking down the sidewalk looking at houses like he was on drugs - making sure he wasn't gonna break into no houses - then he jumped me from me behind .... I thought the kid was gonna do "great bodily harm to me" I feared for my life - I had to kill the child.

POLICE: Ok, here's your gun back.

    Stand Your Ground Law makes the police have to determine if an armed predator who kills a teenage boy was, in fact, engaged in unlawful stalking of the dead child BEFORE they can arrest the killer.

     Because of Stand Your Ground Laws, the police cannot arrest an armed man who killed an unarmed child dead - because the Law does not give a damn if the victim tried to fight off their predator as the Stand Your Ground Law protects the armed predator.

     Jeb Bush also still protects his "Protect the Predator Law"

BUSH:  “Applied properly, I support the law,”
~March 23, 2012
    um ... ok ... WTF does "Applied properly" mean?  He signed the GD Law, surely to God he knew when he signed it that the law allowed armed stalkers to kill their prey and claim "self-defense" without risk of arrest and without risk of Civil Liability.

     "Applied Properly" - the Sanford Police "think" they did apply the Law properly and to them ... The Law speaks for itself.  To the Sanford Police, it appears, the Law allowed an armed stalker to kill an unarmed teenager and if there had been NO public outcry there would be NO legal recourse for the victim's family because:
 "when 'properly applying' the Law Jeb Bush signed, the family of the victim has NO LEGAL RECOURSE."

     I think Jeb Bush, like his brothers, are not smart and Jeb should have said,

'If the law had been WRITTEN properly, there would be no question that Zimmerman should have been arrested the night he killed an unarmed teenager and charged with murder so that a Jury could decide legal guilt or not guilty.'
Larry Pratt, Executive Director of Gun Owners of America said many uneducated, uninformed comments about Trayvon Martin's case in order manipulate and dumb down his followers:
PRATT: "Trayvon Martin passed from becoming a victim to becoming an aggressor when he started hitting Zimmerman."
(TRANSLATION: Predator can kill their prey if their prey tries to fight them off, and not risk arrest.)

PRATT: " “If you jump on top of me, and you start beating the tar out of me, and I can get my hand on my gun — count on it, I’m gonna shoot you.”
(TRANSLATION: A Predator's prey is NOT allowed to fight off their predator.)

PRATT: "Zimmerman was legally following the boy to make a Citizen's Arrest"
(TRANSLATION: No such thing as a stalker

Oh and never mind Florida Citizen Arrest laws dictate the person being arrested MUST have committed a felony.


Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush Literally Created a Safe Haven for Predators with their Stand Your Ground Law.

Thus, Adding in Stand Your Ground Law,  Florida Laws:
- allow a predator to carry an armed weapon,
- allow predators to stalk their prey (how does the victim prove stalking if the victim is dead)
- kill their prey if their prey bloodies their nose or gets their back wet (even if its raining).
    As a casual observer it seems to me that no child, or any other vulnerable person, is safe on the sidewalks of Florida due to Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush's Stand Your Ground Law.
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  •  Value of education (1+ / 0-)
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    By providing all  this information to the public, a target will be placed on the back of Zimmerman for sure.  Zimmerman may want to move to a state without Florida's "right to murder" law.  I'm curious, did Rubio and Bush provide that a murderer under this law is prevented from leaving the state?

    •  No as Stand Your Ground allows 4flight (0+ / 0-)

      or at least ... it does not address "flight" so therefore it allows for Zimmerman to leave.

      •  Err, you really wanna rec a comment that says (0+ / 0-)

        that the value of your info is that Zimmerman will have a target on his back?

        We must use what we have
        to build what we need. -Adrienne Rich

        by Xapulin on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 11:11:40 AM PDT

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        •  Yes, I read the entire comment and liked it (0+ / 0-)

          the poster is merely pointing out that providing FACTS to the public will inform them as to the dangers of the law.

          I don't think the poster was condoning using Z as a target

          •  Then we clearly (0+ / 0-)


            ...a target will be placed on the back of Zimmerman for sure.  Zimmerman may want to move to a state without Florida's "right to murder" law.
            I'll leave you to it.

            We must use what we have
            to build what we need. -Adrienne Rich

            by Xapulin on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 11:25:17 AM PDT

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      •  cc - thanks for your diary (1+ / 0-)
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        When the tragedy happened I looked up the Stand Your Ground Law and was surprised that it had been on the books in Florida since 2005 and more than half the states had passed something similar. I didn't know about the prohibition of civil remedies and some of the other items in your diary. There have been a few diaries about civil actions and this aspect of the law hadn't been mentioned.

        Relating to Rubio and his comment about the Trayvon case, do you think he knows more of the facts that we do? If he only knows what has been in the press I think his answer is appropriate and thoughtful. I am not a lawyer, but I don't think I know enough about the facts in this case to make a determination if the Stand Your Ground Law applies and if Zimmerman has committed a crime. We have heard conflicting reports about witnesses and their statements. Until there is full investigation, or a public trial where all the evidence is presented, shouldn't politicians be cautious about stating their opinions in public?

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 11:14:31 AM PDT

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  •  so the VP hopeful (2+ / 0-)
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    cc, Neon Mama

    "going to bring in the Hispanic vote" (ha, good luck) sponsored a law that is being used by racists..which anyone with a working brain could have predicted...

    and yet another stain on Rubio's tarnished record...

  •  But Jeb now states that law is not valid (1+ / 0-)
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    in the Trayvon shooting case. Jeb wants to distance himself from the nightmare that HE created.

  •  My main question is -- why Z still had (0+ / 0-)

    concealed carry permit after his arrest?    

    Florida has a pretty strict law IIRC on cancelling permits once there is an arrest for any physical violence.  

    I haven't checked lately, but there were some cops here who lost jobs when their spouse filed against them for domestic violence, because they could no longer carry a gun even on duty.    

    Zimmerman had  prior arrests for domestic violence and for resisting officer  --- and should have lost gun permit.  In Florida we can still have guns without permit -- but can't hide them from view etc.    It makes power freaks less likely to feel "entitled" to abuse gun rights if permit is pulled IMHO.    

    Also -- was he actually in the neighborhood where he claimed to be official citizen watch member?  And was he actually a member of any real citizen watch group?  

    I've been stalked/accosted by his "type" over the years when I was   "lurking suspiciously" to deliver newspapers, to legally repo  cars, or to taxi home drunks from bars or deliver the night shift home nurse.    But -- I was white and female when I confronted them and told them to get out of my business.  Some   "watchers" are good.  Too many get bored and/or overzealous.    

    De fund + de bunk = de EXIT--->>>>>

    by Neon Mama on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 12:02:54 PM PDT

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