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Is there anyone to the left of Rick Santorum whom the reactionary right does not condemn as Marxist? Why do the Kossacks limit themselves to the pathetic label of "anti-capitalist?" It is high time that Marxists and Socialists should publish their views, as someone once said.

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  •  Because (4+ / 0-)

    Pearls are clutched and panties become a wad whenever we try and point out that capitalism doesn't work for a stable society.

    Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.

    by Horace Boothroyd III on Fri Mar 30, 2012 at 01:12:35 PM PDT

  •  I'm a socialist, I published my views (2+ / 0-)
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    In my very first diary, actually. They were well received here. "Anti-capitalist" is a catch all term for people of any political stripe that do not approve of capitalism. In practice, anti capitalists are generally socialists, communists, or anarchists but some do identify liberals or progressives.

    You do see "democratic socialists" or "European style socialists" admit to it here. You won't generally find people claiming to be Marxists, though, and as usual, very few people here understand what anarchism is really about.

    I would like to see people embrace the terms more, to take back the words from the right wing scare machine. But I understand the use of the term "anti-capitalist" because it is all-inclusive.

    •  Lots do. (4+ / 0-)

      See my sig line. Marx is a problem because he is so strongly associated with deservedly defunct Communist parties and because it is hard for people to understand that he is so many different people at once, the rowdy revolutionary in Germany and the silly revolutionary in England, the snarky journalist and the august economist and the collaborator with Engels on some really stupid armchair anthropology, etc.

      But I fear the whole project has a kind of musty smell to most of the young folk who have no idea what it's about, and needs a refreshed terminology.

      What did you do in the class war, Daddy?

      by Yastreblyansky on Fri Mar 30, 2012 at 01:34:58 PM PDT

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      •  It's a pity (2+ / 0-)
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        given how little the communist parties in question actually attempted to put Marx's theories into practice.  I have my doubts as to whether his ideas can work on a large scale, and I suspect that such a system would face many of the same issues you might see in a large scale direct democracy.  Still, we've never really had the chance to find out.  I've seen co-ops more authentically Marxist than the Soviet Union was.

        •  I don't know about the practice (0+ / 0-)

          at all--as you say, hasn't been tried. My feeling is there's a magical Utopian leap in the theory, where the proletariat suddenly becomes unalienated and assumes its leading role, that never did make any sense. And that Marx himself would be reconciled to the Swedish and German style of workers being empowered to sit with the capitalists at the same table, but maybe that's just projecting (ain't so revolutionary myself these days). My Marx is not the futurist who predicted the next phase but the analyst who understood his own world better than anybody, which could help us a lot in trying to understand ours.

          Mojo to you for maintaining some serious conversation in this lonely little thread!

          What did you do in the class war, Daddy?

          by Yastreblyansky on Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 07:43:27 AM PDT

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  •  i'm glad for this diary (1+ / 0-)
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    i've been educating myself about the russian revolution, especially since it looks like things could get so bad all over, that revolution will become the order of the day

    i started with edmund wilson's "to the finland station", then read trotsky's "my life", then trotsky's "the russian revolution" (edited by max eastman), then john reed's "ten days that shook the world", now the first volume of deutscher's trilogy on trotsky, "the prophet armed"

    lenin and trotsky believed in the rule of the people, and in democracy

    trotsky understood that it had to be a worldwide revolution, or the capitalists would murder any one place where the people took over

    it's all fascinating, and somewhat discouraging; but trotsky never gave up on his principles, he gave his life to the movement, and he was a happy man!

    he wrote this on the day he was attacked (and murdered):

    "Natasha has come up to the window from the courtyard and opened it wider so that the air may enter more freely into my room.  I can see the bright green strip of grass beneath the wall, and the clear blue sky above the wall and sunlight everywhere.  Life is beautiful.  Let the future generations cleanse it of all evil, oppression and violence, and enjoy it to the full.  Leon Trotsky"

    •  trotsky... (0+ / 0-)

      ...is heady stuff.  Right in the thick of it, and damn smart.

      Though as he himself might point out, Trotsky believed -- at least at one time -- that the fundamental challenge, after having the revolution happen in Russia -- Russia! -- was industrialization, and the rule of the people blah blah blah was secondary to the vast economic and technical lag of the time.   I also never got the impression he was a happy guy, but that could just be me.  Brilliant though, and with a heart.

      ...j'ai découvert que tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos dans une chambre.

      by jessical on Fri Mar 30, 2012 at 09:29:02 PM PDT

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