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Rep. Steve King
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I just want to take a small portion out of your day to point out that Republican Rep. Steve King, in addition to being a probable sociopath, also is a gigantic liar. Huge! He'll lie to your face for no good reason, which I think to Iowa Republicans passes for good family values, because they voted for the guy, right?

Via Think Progress, here's Steve King imagining himself as the one-man Spanish Inquisition of Meat Products:

I sit on the Ag Committee and we had a hearing before the Ag Committee when we invited in the president of the Humane Society of the United States, HSUS, President Wayne Pacelle. And we had one or two other witnesses from the anti-meat crowd or anti-animal husbandry crowd. PETA was there and one other animal activist group. So we just asked them, under oath, “are you a vegetarian?” And they confessed they were vegetarians, all of them. Well there they are with an agenda for our diets.
Ha ha ha! Take that, people who care marginally for the basic living conditions of factory-farmed animals! You eat meat, therefore your arguments are invalid! Only people who do not eat meat are allowed to have opinions on how it should be produced, and they aren't allowed either, because they don't even eat meat! Checkmate, you evil possibly-meat-eating-or-not communists!

In addition to being profoundly stupid, however, which is the hallmark of pretty much all stories involving Steve King, it turns out his story is apparently completely made up. Never happened. Maybe King daydreamed it was happening while doodling little pictures of himself pulling the plug on grandma during the hearings, but apparently he's the only one who heard himself ask those great gotcha questions:

ThinkProgress went back to review the hearing transcripts to determine whether King’s story is accurate. It is not. The congressional hearing on animal welfare that King appears to be referencing occurred on May 8, 2007. There were no witnesses from PETA. King did not ask anyone “are you a vegetarian?” In fact, it was another member — Steve Kagen (D-WI) — who asked the Humane Society witness to say he was a vegetarian.
I forget—is compulsive lying a characteristic of sociopathy, or just the mark of a rotten human being? Oh heck, let's be generous and just say it's probably evidence of both. Coming up next: Steve King tells of the time he fought off a bear by asking it snide questions until it ran off in shame. This totally happened, and if you say otherwise it's because you're a communist.

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  •  Is there any polling out yet (7+ / 0-)

    in his race with Christie Vilsack?  His new district still tilts red, but I doubt it would elect a raving idiot like King.

  •  Hey, cut Cong. King some slack, heh? (4+ / 0-)

    I mean, he is entertaining. And what happens in the hearings in his mind is doubtlessly more informative and productive than the hearings that actually take place before the House ag committee.

    Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

    by TRPChicago on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 05:37:01 PM PDT

    •  Not entertaining to me (1+ / 0-)
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      3goldens

      He isn't my Congressman (thankfully).

      But, when I see someone as stupid, as arrogant, such a lying sack of shit, such a bigot, Luddite, congenital moron as Steve King sitting in ANY seat that has some sort of power, it makes me sick and its an embarrassment to this entire nation.

      If this was truly a just world, people like Steve King wouldn't exist....or at the least, banned from doing anything that could affect another human being in any way shape or form.

    •  It's entertainment I could do without (3+ / 0-)
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      This crap is hurting people.

      Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

      by anastasia p on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 06:54:44 PM PDT

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    •  King was more entertaining (2+ / 0-)
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      before 2010 when he was just a crazy member of the extreme minority wing of a minority party. Now that King and his Tea Party buddies are in control of the majority party in the House, he's not so funny.

  •  I could read Hunter's (10+ / 0-)

    Steve King diaries forever (although I hope King won't be in Congress that long).

    Fascism will come to the United States wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. --Sinclair Lewis

    by maggiejean on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 05:42:57 PM PDT

  •  Steve King loves horse meat. (2+ / 0-)
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    Especially delicious are those quarter-pound Secretariat Burgers.

    "What Elephant?" - Jimmy Durante, "Jumbo"

    by FresnoBill314 on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 05:44:56 PM PDT

  •  I think King would actually (7+ / 0-)

    win a staring contest with Hannibal Lecter -- the great sociopath to sociopath eyball grudge match.  

    I'm really tired of stupid people in this country electing mentally deranged amoral assholes in the name of Jesus.

    Vi er alle norske " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 05:45:18 PM PDT

  •  Compulsive lying (5+ / 0-)

    I thought it was a job requirement for any position as an elected Republican official, or as a staffer at Fox News.

    Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

    by a gilas girl on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 05:51:40 PM PDT

    •  Yes, and we have the Wisconsin (4+ / 0-)

      Republicans to prove that compulsive lying IS a job requirement!  At least King is so stupid he's somewhat entertaining.  WI Republicans are just plain mean sociopaths with Paul Ryan, Scott Walker, and the Fitzgrifter brothers as prime examples.

      We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both. Louis D. Brandeis

      by 3goldens on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 06:07:38 PM PDT

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      •  Aw, come on! (2+ / 0-)
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        Don't forget Glenn Grothman.

        He gets his "Steve King Vibe" once in a while.

        Don't get me wrong, he's a mean sociopath, too.

        But he does have a touch of that idiot goofiness as well.

        •  Yep! Glenn definitely belonged on that list. (4+ / 0-)

          He and Steve King have got to be blood relatives somewhere along the line.  They have so much in common---with being mean sociopaths their strongest connection.  I'll never forget Grothman calling the WI protesters "slobs" and then, when Ed Schultz had him on his tv show, refusing to back off on what he'd said and behaving like a perfect jackass.  

          We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both. Louis D. Brandeis

          by 3goldens on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 07:04:10 PM PDT

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  •  I think you have your argument backwards. (6+ / 0-)
    ....are you a vegetarian?” And they confessed they were vegetarians, all of them. Well there they are with an agenda for our diets.
    Ha ha ha! Take that, people who care marginally for the basic living conditions of factory-farmed animals! You eat meat, [vegetarians explicitly don't eat meat] therefore your arguments are invalid! Only people who do not [shouldn't that be who do?] eat meat are allowed to have opinions on how it should be produced, and they aren't allowed either, because they don't even eat meat! Checkmate, you evil possibly-meat-eating-or-not communists!

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    How can Obama's administration have failed if everyone who is unemployed only has themselves to blame?

    by Laughing Vergil on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 05:56:15 PM PDT

  •  there's nothing wrong with Steve King (2+ / 0-)
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    that a Pink Slime enema can't take care of.  I'm generally not one for the more intimate aspects of Senior care, but I'm pretty sure I could overcome my natural squeamishness in this instance and handle the procedure.  

    "By your late thirties the ground has begun to grow hard. It grows harder and harder until the day that it admits you.” Thomas McGuane, Nobody's Angel

    by Keith930 on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 05:56:48 PM PDT

  •  historically a high meat diet is a phenomenon (2+ / 0-)
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    of post WWII America.  Before that people raised their meat and chicken was the most common meat, usually reserved for Sunday dinner (shades of the Waltons!).  Next up would be hogs; the family would butcher several each year in cooperation with neighbors and then "smoke" the meat.  The meat is eaten sparingly over the year and is most used as a side dish or "side meat (such as "rice soup" which was boiled rice with a single bit of pork or beef for flavor) Speaking of beef, most cows were milk cows and their male offspring were raised for meat or sold for ready cash Frequently families would raise a steer together and share the meat.

    De facto, pre WWII, rural diets were far closer to vegetarianism than Rep King may wish to believe

  •  the worst ones are the the evil not communists /nt (1+ / 0-)
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    evil possibly-meat-eating-or-not communists!

    slutty voter for a "dangerous president"; Präsidentenelf-maßschach; Warning-Some Snark Above"Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) "Sciant terra viam monstrare." 政治委员, 政委!

    by annieli on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 05:59:16 PM PDT

  •  I'd like to suggest that some type (2+ / 0-)
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    of warning system be put into place on Hwy. 151 so that if Steve King should venture out of Iowa towards WI we will get advance warning and alert our bears to run for cover.  Ohmigod, I laughed so hard reading this I had to stop and wipe my eyes.

    We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both. Louis D. Brandeis

    by 3goldens on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 06:00:09 PM PDT

  •  when (2+ / 0-)
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    When your supporters don't believe in science, and their news source doesn't believe in facts, lying is without punishment.  Hitler's Big Lie technique depended upon government control of the press-- today the press is under the wing of Big Business-- Ergo--Hitler is yesterday's Big Business representative--which is historically correct.

    Apres Bush, le deluge.

    by melvynny on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 06:09:12 PM PDT

  •  ferchrissakes--this is not a lie. (5+ / 0-)

    Steve King is an idiot.  Why accuse him of lying when he's not lying--it makes other criticism suspect.

    He said, "We asked them...if they were vegetarians."  They did.  Kagen in particular but that is part of "we."  And he also had it right that it was Pacelle.

    He thought PETA had a rep there and they didn't.  So fuckin' what?

    What would Jesus do? Whip the exploiters out of the temple!

    by jhannon on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 06:10:53 PM PDT

    •  The "we" definitely makes that part not a lie. (2+ / 0-)
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      The lack of a PETA representative, however, is not handwavable.

      We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another. -- Jonathan Swift

      by raptavio on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 06:37:55 PM PDT

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    •  That did kinda deflate the whole story... (2+ / 0-)
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      When I read that part it left me at a loss about the whole lie issue. But damn he loves to exaggerate the vegetarian part to the very limits of logic. This guy is absolutely bonkers!

      "I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -- George Carlin, Satirical Comic,(1937-2008)

      by Wynter on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 06:42:42 PM PDT

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  •  As far as King's lies go (6+ / 0-)

    This one is right up there with his fanciful story about only being able to buy incandescent light bulbs on the black market.

  •  factory-farmed animals (0+ / 0-)

    I retired from dairy farming having milked 80 cows.  Are/were my cows 'factory-farmed'??  To make a living I had to maintain a healthy herd by good management practices and good nutrition; the same as a dairyman who milks a thousand cows.  No one has ever defined the term 'factory farm' in any way that does not show ignorance of animal agriculture.  It's an insult to me.

  •  Notable Idiot? (1+ / 0-)
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    This is an apt description of King.

    King has his asshole where his mouth should be.  He is as stupid or more stupid than Louie Gohmert - and Louie is incredibly stupid rivaling the stupidity of George Bush, Rick Perry and Sarah I can see Russia from my house.

    When speaking of notable idiots one must include McConnell, Bawlin' John Boehner and I'm concerned Cantor.

  •  Boy, you've really been on a tear (2+ / 0-)
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    this past week about Steve King. Next thing you know I'll be making a donation to Christie Vilsack if you keep this up. I'm already on her mailing list, although I'm not from Iowa. She's nicer about Steve King than you are, although she makes it clear he doesn't stand for anything we stand for — like actual doing anything positive for ordinary people.

    By the way, just because I'm a vegetarian I can't be concerned about how livestock animals are raised? Since when? What a douche!

    Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

    by anastasia p on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 06:53:47 PM PDT

    •  Because you are a vegetarian (0+ / 0-)

      you have an Agenda, according to King, to change all of our diets.  He views any concerns vegetarians express about how livestock are raised as part of a move to stop animal husbandry and make everyone give up meat.

      Against stupidity the gods themselves fight in vain. Schiller

      by deweyrose on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 09:02:16 PM PDT

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  •  Sheeit! (3+ / 0-)
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    When it comes to lying Steve King isn't even qualified to carry Mitt Romney's ball sack.

    "But much to my surprise when I opened my eyes I was the victim of the great compromise." John Prine

    by high uintas on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 07:06:54 PM PDT

  •  Sociopathy or Psychopathy: So Many Choices (0+ / 0-)

    King probably isn't a sociopath.  Here is the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual "DSM" IV on sociopathy:

       A) There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three or more of the following:

            failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;

            deception, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;

            impulsiveness or failure to plan ahead;

            irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;

            reckless disregard for safety of self or others;

            consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations;

            lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another;

        B) The individual is at least age 18 years.

        C) There is evidence of conduct disorder with onset before age 15 years.

        D) The occurrence of antisocial behavior is not exclusively during the course of schizophrenia or a manic episode.

    A major part of what defines a "sociopath" is whether they have gotten into legal trouble -- arrested for fighting, breaking and entering, robbing you with a six gun instead of a fountain pen.

    I haven't seen King in (fist) fights.  He seems to hold a job.  He does lie.  He does disregard the rights of others.  He also exhibits a lack of concern for others (unless they are corporations).

    But my guess is King isn't a sociopath, since so much of the definition is as someone who is repeatedly arrested.  If King robs you, he does it with a fountain pen.

    On the other hand, here we have psychopathy, literally an emotional blindspot.  

    Psychopaths possess a general lack of empathy. It includes deficiencies in comprehension and appreciation of others’ experiences and motivations, lack of tolerance of differing perspectives and diminished understanding of the effects of own behavior on others.[65] At an extreme they are simply unable to understand the emotional states of other people, except in a purely detached, intellectual sense. Other people are thus little more than objects for their personal gratification. They are not disturbed by the suffering of others, nor do they take pleasure in making others happy. This callousness extends to everybody, family and strangers alike. They neglect other people's needs and desires and can casually inflict extreme cruelty.
    A psychopath can be out there on the honor roll. A sociopath never would be.  A psychopath can hold a job for years and climb the corporate ladder.  A sociopath, by definition, never could.

    Someone who climbs the corporate ladder is, by definition, not a sociopath.

    My guess is that Steve King is a "Snake in Suit" that Robert Hare -- the current guru of psychopathy -- calls socially functional psychopaths.

    But that's just, like, my opinion, man.

    Whatever he is, fuck Steve King.

    This aggression will not stand, man.

    by kaleidescope on Fri Apr 06, 2012 at 08:32:00 PM PDT

  •  I don't see the lie (1+ / 0-)
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    He said "we asked" the question. The hearing was five years ago. I don't know about your memory, but mine could have made this mistake. There is much better evidence that King is an idiot than this.

  •  I had earlier expressed the opinion (0+ / 0-)

    That this King piece of dreck reminds me of a certain toothbrush-mustached Austrian Dictator who came to power in the 1930s, preaching a message of injured nationalism, race-superiority, scapegoating, and rearmament. I have not changed this opinion.
       The piece in fact confirms it

    An empty head is not really empty; it is stuffed with rubbish. Hence the difficulty of forcing anything into an empty head. -- Eric Hoffer

    by MichiganChet on Sat Apr 07, 2012 at 06:52:04 AM PDT

  •  vegetarian (0+ / 0-)

    Since Representative King is a Republican politician, I presumed his story was a complete fabrication.  I thought it was telling however, that in his release he used the word "confessed" to being vegetarians.

  •  Hey, don't fall too hard on (0+ / 0-)

    King. He can't help himself for being a liar. It is the main criteria for being a politician, and he is so good at being a politician.

  •  Well, I dunno... (0+ / 0-)

    ... a long time ago I worked for a committee of the U.S. House of Representatives. King is an idiot, but I wouldn't label him a liar on the basis of this.

    The convention is that as a member of the the committee you can refer to "us" and "we." So when he says "we just asked them," he's simply referring to the fact that someone on the committee asked the question. He didn't say he personally brought the issue up.

    In fact, even if members do not personally attend specific hearings they routinely talk about what "we" discovered during hearings on such-and-such.

    This all part of the general Congressional power to be all-knowing, everywhere at once, and all things to all people at all times.

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