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Romney's 42% support in the final 2012 nomination preference poll ranks among the lowest Gallup has measured for a nominee in its final poll since 1972, when the McGovern-Fraser reforms shifted power for choosing the nominee to voters in primaries and caucuses rather than party leaders at the national conventions.

Specifically, no other Republican winner in the primary era has had as little as 42% support in Gallup's final measure of nomination preferences, with George W. Bush's 57% in 2000 the lowest before now.

Those are some pretty amazing numbers. As you can see from the chart, the average Republican nominee has had 62 percent support upon clinching the nomination—20 points higher than Mitt Romney. And it's not like he was up against some sort of super strong rival: Rick Santorum was barely above average in terms of support, yet Romney still couldn't really put him away with any sort of authority.

I'm sure we'll get a lot of spin from Republicans about how it really doesn't matter that Mitt Romney is so unpopular within his own party because Republicans hate Obama so much they'll vote for Romney anyway. Maybe that's true, but that's going to take a whole lot of hate. And if Mitt Romney can't even get his base to like him, how in the world is he going to win over enough swing voters to win the election?

Originally posted to Daily Kos Elections on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 01:11 PM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  He's seriously toast, Jed, for Pete's sake! n/t (13+ / 0-)

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 01:13:43 PM PDT

  •  Those numbers are bound to move up, (14+ / 0-)

    but the lack of enthusiasm can affect who many volunteer and who much those peopel volunteer.  RMoney may have to pay for a lot of work that Obama will get done by volunteers.  

    More importantly, independents see RMoney for what he is.  

    I'm from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner Wing of the Democratic Party!

    by TomP on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 01:14:38 PM PDT

  •  "Modern" history (13+ / 0-)

    for me is contained in my lifetime -- which means I was alive when Truman was still President.  So why can't there be comparisons farther back?  Was Nixon as unloved as Romney?  -- the first or second time around?

    Every Democrat should be committed during this election season -- not just for the Presidency but for all down ticket Democrats.  This year should be the time that the evilness in the Republican Party is slammed to the ground.

    Vi er alle norske " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 01:18:32 PM PDT

  •  Hate is a very powerful emotion (11+ / 0-)

    But it is going to be hard to sustain for 8 months without burn out and without it leading to mistakes.

    TPM has a nice article today about how Team Obama schooled Team Romney yesterday - T.R. wanted to talk about jobs and instead spent the day talking about Lily Ledbetter.

    Every time someone on Team Romney tries to keep the hate fresh and hot Team Obama is going to make them pay a price for it. By November they will have their base ready to walk barefoot through broken glass to vote against Obama, and 90% of the independents ready to vote against Romney because they are so sick of the negativity.

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'y a aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il y a toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

    by blue aardvark on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 01:22:12 PM PDT

    •  Romney Doesn't Have to Do Anything About the Hate. (8+ / 0-)

      That's what the global corporate air war is for.

      It's already started; evidently NRA is phoning people telling them they need to arm up, according to a prog talk caller.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 01:29:45 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I don't think Team Romney is good enough (3+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        mdmslle, MidwestTreeHugger, bythesea

        to avoid the trap of stirring the hate when the TV ads are talking about it.

        How does the RWNM stir up an issue while the candidate avoids all mention thereof?

        In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'y a aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il y a toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

        by blue aardvark on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 01:38:48 PM PDT

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      •  The NRA is also making it about the SC picks. (0+ / 0-)

        I recently read one of La Pierre's paranoid delusional ramblings about Justice Ginsburg saying the US should adopt parts of South Africa's constitution (?) or something like that -- which led to the whole United Nations Agenda 21 deal and it went downhill from there.  I couldn't make sense of it - which actually made me feel better about myself.

        BTW, their convention started today - here's the Friday lineup:

        FRI, APRIL 13 • 12:50-5 PM CT
        Leadership Forum with featured speakers:
        • Rick Santorum
        • Mitt Romney
        • Newt Gingrich
        • Rick Perry
        • Oliver North
        • Darrell Issa
        • Chuck Grassley
        • Roy Blunt
        • John Bolton
        • Ken Blackwell
        • Scott Walker
        • Bobby Jindal
        • Eric Cantor

        The Catholic League is to "anti-defamation" as Blackwater is to "security".

        by here4tehbeer on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 02:11:26 PM PDT

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      •  i think what's going to happen very early on (2+ / 0-)

        is that people are going to get sick of the negative ads with their dark foreboding music and mean girl/mean guy voiceovers and the worst candidate photos ever taken, desaturated just so.

        people are gonna be sick of it. And when happens (and I'll tell you, it will be early), the only thing that will matter is the debates and the candidates' campaign activities (meet and greets, etc). That's a minefield for Romney.

  •  To keep hate alive for eight months (16+ / 0-)

    you need fire like what comes out of Newt's mouth.

    Mitt couldn't keep a marshmellow on fire for eight minutes.

    Mr. Gorbachev, establish an Electoral College!

    by tommypaine on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 01:28:05 PM PDT

    •  They wouldn't want Mitt leading that charge (3+ / 0-)

      That's something they will use surrogates for.

      Even Nixon had Spiro Agnew (and his writer William Safire) do the real attacks.

      Democrats stand for Liberty, Security, Support of Families and Opportunity Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - over

      by Rick B on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 01:47:25 PM PDT

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      •  but when they do, romney will have to address (2+ / 0-)
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        MidwestTreeHugger, bythesea

        it. at least some of the time.

        what's he going to do?

        and BTW, while his side is busy stirring up hate, indies, moderates from both parties and sane people across the country think, "really? no thanks."

        works for me.

        Hey Mitt: yeah, go with the hate. that's the ticket.

        •  What's he going to do? You're kidding, right? (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          joe wobblie

          The first time he's asked directly he'll give a non-answer answer - "Some people do believe that is true. Next question." - as an example. The next time in some other location it's "I answered that before. Go check that out."

          The media will then ignore both non-answers. No real conflict, and the reporters following the campaigns these days are right out of grad school with no experience in digging down to the real answer.

          An expert political propagandist can come up with better non-answer answers than that.

          What? You expect journalism? Have you watched what we have for journalists these days? The Republican candidates for the Presidential nomination are not the only clowns in the clown trail. The people actually out on the trail following the candidates are inexperienced people who are doing their time in the box before they apply for jobs as TV commentators.

          Democrats stand for Liberty, Security, Support of Families and Opportunity Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - over

          by Rick B on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 04:10:13 PM PDT

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    •  No marshmallow roasts for Romney. (1+ / 0-)
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      jds1978

      He's already laid so many eggs, it will take all of his measly skill
      to defend what he's already said publicly and we know he isn't very good at that.  Then, he'll compound his problems by flip flopping on previous flip flops that will, in turn, generate even more questions about his veracity.  "Why did you say this, when you now say that?  - and all this in a contest with the informed inside man who is light years better at speaking and more charming.

      IMO the GOP is happy to have Obama to kick around for another four years, rile up the base, and let  memories of "W's" incompetence fade a bit....Republican focus is on the Senate where they can continue to sabotage any changes.  They figure that 2016 is their year, which is why Jeb and Christy and Daniels et al are not running now or enthusiastically supporting Mitt.

  •  Let them suffer hate burnout. (7+ / 0-)

    But I think Evangelicals will stay home and no amount of appeasement on the VP side of the ticket will make any difference.

    And Orrin Hatch isn't going to be able to do anything about it.

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 01:31:07 PM PDT

  •  I wonder if the fact that Romney's a fucking prick (7+ / 0-)

    who thinks of nobody but himself has anything to do with this...

    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 01:33:32 PM PDT

  •  Clinton was less popular than Romney in 1992 (3+ / 0-)

    which is why the wording of these posts is so tortured: "least popular Republican nominee," "least popular nominee since 1996," etc.

    But beyond numbers, Clinton's genius for campaigning at the head of a ticket means that the predicaments of the respective candidates are not terribly comparable.  

  •  So will the GOP be issuing noseplugs? nt (0+ / 0-)

    Response: If you "got it" you wouldn't be a republican

    by JML9999 on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 01:35:41 PM PDT

  •  All. That. Money. (3+ / 0-)

    All that talent he can hire. And this is srsly the best he can do??

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 01:36:04 PM PDT

  •  Unfortunatly (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    MidwestTreeHugger

    This doesn't seem to correlate very well with winning or losing elections. Note, Bush 41, lost that election. Bush 43, won that election

  •  And yet... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    MidwestTreeHugger

    as unloved as Rich Money is, his head-to-head numbers against Obama are already looking better than McCain's. Which party will depress their own base more by November?

    My other car is a pair of boots.

    by FutureNow on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 01:40:54 PM PDT

  •  Mitt may be broadly unpopular (4+ / 0-)

    but he is very popular with those who (still) run the Republican Party. Those are Mitt's peers, the wealthy investor class.

    When early on Newt Gingrich seemed likely explosively jump up and kill Mitt's run for the nomination, Mitt's peers broke down and threw the money into negative ads to kill Newt's effort. That was the last real threat Mitt faced, so his peers have not bothered to step in since then.

    We will see their activities again when the crunch comes for the election in November. America's predatory elite feel very threatened by Obama.

    It seems to me that Obama has decided that he cannot pacify the financial predators so he is going to take them head on. They will not take that lying down. Mitt's their tool and they will protect him and support him all the way.

    Democrats stand for Liberty, Security, Support of Families and Opportunity Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - over

    by Rick B on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 01:41:38 PM PDT

    •  he isn't popular with those who run (0+ / 0-)

      the party they just see him as the only person who was running who had a chance in hell at winning the WH.

      The establishment knew that their choices were Romney, Gingrich, Santorum and Paul. So they picked Romney.

  •  Video of Hannity fellating Romney before his show. (3+ / 0-)

    http://gawker.com/...

    Safe for work, obviously, because Romney's a dickless fucker.

    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 01:45:51 PM PDT

  •  This could be good for Romney (0+ / 0-)

    Having the lunatic fringe of the GOP hate him could help Romney by showing that he's not a far right nut job.

  •  To be slightly fair (3+ / 0-)
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    madmojo, MidwestTreeHugger, bythesea

    Romney has the most internally divided and nonsensical Republican Party in 40 years to deal with.  Whereas Obama has the least divided and most sensible Democratic Party in that time frame.

  •  Just like Kerry can win with the anti-Bush vote? (4+ / 0-)
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    madmojo, jj32, The Caped Composer, Matt Z

    psh

  •  I don't think it matters much (1+ / 0-)
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    bluegrass50

    The second worst performer on that list still "won" his general election.  Futher, the Clinton/Obama primary war had about a 50/50 split in support there all the way until the bitter end.  

    Frankly his being unpopular with the radical douches in his own party suggests he might be more acceptable to moderates.  

    So, point blank, let's not let stuff like this cause us any moment of false hope.  This is going to take a lot of work and Romney will have a lot of money.  

  •  I wonder if enough folks will sit out 2012... (1+ / 0-)
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    MidwestTreeHugger

    figuring they can get their A-List candidate in 2016.   For that matter how much will a Jeb Bush and the Bush Machine, Christie, Jindal, Pence, Rubio and supporters really want Romney to win knowing that it would mean they'd be locked out until 2020 - which would mean a lot of thier presidential windows would close.  

    I mean to a man they all slip when talking about their chances in 2016.  They are all assuming Pres Obama will be re-elected - how committed can they really be to help Romney win?

    Recalling back to 2004,  didn't Hillary Clinton decide not to run because running against an incumbent too hard and she had her sight on 2008.  Now I know Bill had heart surgery around then and both did some campaigning for Kerry - but how much did their machine work for Kerry? Could either have done more?

    •  I doubt it. (0+ / 0-)

      Using some of my own (misguided) family members as an example, they had nothing good to say about Romney for months and months--"Obamneycare," being a "RINO" while governing Mass., flip-flopping on the issues, etc.  But as soon as it became clear that he was the GOP national/FOX choice, it all turned to "He's not great, but anybody has to be better than Obama.  Still haven't heard back yet on how he has to be "better" when just a few months ago the argument was that he was Obama's mirror image in many important venues.  

      This has nothing to do with logic, education, or knowledge.  Blatant contradiction is perfectly acceptable in the face of tearing down an "unamerican" "socialist" who is "looking to destroy the country."  

      My favorite part in it all is how PATRIOT, the NSA wiretapping, Gitmo, etc, were totally defensible under Bush, but gosh, gee, that's infringing on the constitution now.  Gasp!

  •  I keep telling my GOP colleagues "Welcome.... (7+ / 0-)

    ....to my 2004".

    Hate for the Incumbent wasn't enough to get the vaguely Aristocratic New England candidate over the top then, and won't be this time, either.

    But I also think this is no time to be complacent.  We need to go for the jugular and make the GOP really regret their rightward lurch.  When RONALD REAGAN looks like a paragon of responsible governance, there is something SERIOUSLY wrong.

    PS.  I keep telling my colleagues that WHEN Obama send RMoney back to Boston (or Vail, or Salt Lake City, or wherever), that I hope Obama comes swaggering out the next day to do a press conference where he announces that he has "political capital, and intends to spend it".

    Of course, he has waaaay too much class to do that.

  •  What this tells me is... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    MidwestTreeHugger

    Rmoney has not consolidated his base.  He one the primaries by default, not because there was a lot of enthusiasm for him.  What this means is that he cannot race to the center as fast as someone like Dubya did.  

    'Osama Bin Ladien is still dead and GM is still alive' - Joe Biden

    by RichM on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 01:56:37 PM PDT

  •  We all need to go out and vote no matter what the (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    GMFORD, Sue B, MidwestTreeHugger

    polling is saying. We need to send a message that the GOP needs a long timeout:)

    America, We blow stuff up!!

    by IndyinDelaware on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 01:57:58 PM PDT

    •  That's what it's all about. (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      MidwestTreeHugger, LordMike

      There are less of them (Reps) than there are of the rest of us and the Reps have become very far right on most issues and just plain weird on others.

      All we have to do to win consistently is to get leftists, centrists and rational people to vote in every election. Which is not as easy as it sounds.

  •  The base will unite behind Romney (6+ / 0-)

    They probably already have. I mean, I'm betting Romney gets 85%+ in head to heads with Obama. So he will get their vote.

    Whether he gets their help on GOTV, is another story.

    •  He's always gotten 90%, not 85 (0+ / 0-)

      The GOP base has said in every poll for a very long time that they will support Mitt, 90-10, over Obama.

      That's a non-issue.

      Mitt's troubles are with indies and persuadable Dems (and our side always has more defections than theirs in every Presidential, even if not always a lot more).

      I don't think he'll ever fix it.  I think it can be fixed.  But he never will.  All this time, his campaign has lived in a cocoon that includes a big blind spot on defining their own candidate, explaining why he wants to be President, why anyone should vote for him beyond his being the alternative to Obama.  I don't think they'll ever completely overcome that, largely because Mitt himself has to drive the solution, and I don't think he can.  Mitt in this sense really is a national version of Creigh Deeds.  He won't get blown out in the same way, but he'll lose decisively for essentially the same reason.

      44, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

      by DCCyclone on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 06:24:40 PM PDT

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  •  he's in too deep to back out now. (3+ / 0-)

    oh well for him.

    there's no way for him to change these numbers. the reason they don't like him is completely subconscious and visceral and instinctive. We all have that "instinct" and Romney just trips all the bells.

    Then when you add to it that everything he says and does gives them a LOGICAL reason to hate him, I don't see how he fixes this.

    Will they stay home? Not all of them. Not most of them. But Romney could very possibly lose 1-4% of them. AS IS.

    From what I can see of the Obama campaign so far, it looks like they will give no quarter. And rightly so. They've been waiting and planning for Romney since November 5, 2008. Romney is not going to get a chance to come up for air, bless his heart.

    •  You Bet They've been planning. And deeply. (1+ / 0-)
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      mdmslle

      Obama style.  GOP has no clue about what is going to be coming their way.

      This post is dedicated to myself, without whom, I'd be somebody else. Though I'd still be an asshole. My Music: [http://www.myspace.com/beetwasher]

      by Beetwasher on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 04:22:13 PM PDT

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  •  It's Gonna Take A Whole Lotta Hate... (0+ / 0-)
    I'm sure we'll get a lot of spin from Republicans about how it really doesn't matter that Mitt Romney is so unpopular within his own party because Republicans hate Obama so much they'll vote for Romney anyway.
    and the RepubliKlans have more than enough of this hatred to overlook all their "problems" with (R)money.

    As for the so-called swing voters - that is, those White people who sometimes vote Repub and sometimes vote Democratic - the Repubs only need a small % of them to win. After all, White people are still a disproportionate percentage of the electorate even if they are an ever decreasing percentage of the electorate.

    If 55% of White people vote Repub, the Repubs lose; however, if 60% of White people vote Repub the the Repbs win (see elections of 2008 and 2010, respectively, for confirmation). Approximately $1 billion will be spent this year to influence this small percentage of White people to swing one way or the other. Hopefully, what happened as the result of the elections in Wisconsin and Ohio in 2010 will prove to be a greater impetus to, finally, get White people to stop voting against their own best interest.

    I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Republican Party.

    by OnlyWords on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 02:14:41 PM PDT

  •  Doesn't Matter - hate will bring them together (2+ / 0-)
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    Doc Allen, MidwestTreeHugger

    Hatred of Democrats, hatred of black people, hatred of liberals, hatred of government, hatred of gays, hatred of brown people, hatred of media, hated of muslims, hatred of themselves.

    That's all they need to come together behind Romney. It's all they've got.

    "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

    by xaxnar on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 02:18:42 PM PDT

  •  I hope the Obama campaign is smart enough (2+ / 0-)
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    splintersawry, MidwestTreeHugger

    to know that running 30 second attack ads of Romney flip-flopping on every big issue of the day will sink him with conservative nutbase and depress turnout in November. They won't hold their noses if they're constantly reminded of how much a disingenuous asshole this guy is. It goes without saying indies/swing voters won't vote for a phoney.

    •  What would be cool (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      jds1978, MidwestTreeHugger

      is if they kept running back-to-back 15 second ads with the first praising him for advocating one set of positions and the second praising him for advocating the opposite set of positions, which will confuse the hell out of both conservative and centrist voters and make both abandon him.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 02:42:44 PM PDT

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  •  McGovern-Fraser was a bad development (0+ / 0-)

    not because it shifted to primaries but because it shifted too much to primaries, which have now helped to build extremists into an incredibly powerful force in the political process. So, rather than strengthening democracy in the USA, McGovern-Fraser actually made things much worse.

    The problem is essentially this: what is the best way to select a slate of candidates for an election? And, of all the various ways in which one might do it, primaries as currently conceived are pretty much the worst. Of course, getting rid of the existing primary system doesn't mean automatically going back to the old system, although we did get Lincoln and FDR out that supposedly bad old system.

    I have wondered whether just having a signature collecting drive in an electorate 6 or so months before an election by anyone who wants to run might be better, with the top 3 collectors getting on the ballot, regardless of Party. This would possibly select for less extreme candidates, since most people are in the middle and that's where presumably the most signatures are. People would be prohibited from being paid for their endorsement.

    Fructose is a liver poison. Stop eating it today.

    by Anne Elk on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 02:35:12 PM PDT

    •  Primaries work against extremists (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      LordMike

      Caucuses work for extremists.

      See: Paultard, Ron

      Mr. Gorbachev, establish an Electoral College!

      by tommypaine on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 02:40:55 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I do not agree (0+ / 0-)

        Primaries bring out true believers who tend to be extremists. If you look at similar countries like Australia and New Zealand that do not have primaries, the major parties tend to be quite close ideologically. Before primaries in the USA, the two parties were much closer ideologically than they are today. And if you look at the partisan divide index, you can see that it begins to diverge dramatically from 1972 on. The only similar level of partisanship was during and immediately after the civil war, understandably enough. So, caucuses to one side, primaries as currently construed have been very bad for American politics, and are a major driver of the power of organizations like NRA, etc. It also makes money an enormous determinant in elections. Over 50% of the House is composed of millionaires. You may want to think about this a little more.

        Fructose is a liver poison. Stop eating it today.

        by Anne Elk on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 03:17:33 PM PDT

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        •  Sorry, not in the US (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          Anonyman

          The NRA has next to no influence on Prez elections.

          Primaries have been a godsend, unless you believe 20 people should decide who the parties should nominate.

          Caucuses are the extremists' heaven.

          Mr. Gorbachev, establish an Electoral College!

          by tommypaine on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 04:24:01 PM PDT

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          •  Not all elections are presidential (0+ / 0-)

            Why is this comment getting such shallow replies? I said SPECIFICALLY that you don't have to go back to the old system  in order to get rid of the present one. Do you just have one of this binary brains or something? There are lots of ways to choose a slate of candidates. Americans have - as usual - chosen the worst system but, also typically American, are equally convinced that it couldn't be improved upon in any way.

            Fructose is a liver poison. Stop eating it today.

            by Anne Elk on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 05:08:03 PM PDT

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  •  This year will see record low GOP turnout (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Beetwasher, virginislandsguy

    If so, they're going to have serious problems holding onto the house. And forget about the senate. No way do they take that back.

    The Communist Progressive Caucus Democrat Party Strikes Back!

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 02:37:39 PM PDT

  •  It won't matter for the 35% rabid nuts who so (0+ / 0-)

    hate BO they'd make their slaves crawl thru glass to the voting booth (and they then walk over said slaves bodies to vote against him, natch).  

    'Course, that's not a majority.  But give Rove et al, the compiant media ('BO hates Mommies!' cause some D somewhere said something we can twist to sound like it) and voter suppression a little time and I won't bet it will be proclaimed as one by the 5 Clowns on the Potomac.

    Work like Ds are 20 pts behind.  

  •  There a couple of conflicting memes here (0+ / 0-)

    One is that the Republican Party now more than ever is a group of crazies highly out of touch with the electorate at large.

    The other is that Romney's failure to win much support among this group is strong evidence that he'll struggle with the electorate at large.

  •  Not Enough LOL in Existence to deal with This (0+ / 0-)

    We might have to start improvising.

    This post is dedicated to myself, without whom, I'd be somebody else. Though I'd still be an asshole. My Music: [http://www.myspace.com/beetwasher]

    by Beetwasher on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 04:19:38 PM PDT

  •  Fox poll says Romney ahead (0+ / 0-)

    http://www.foxnews.com/...

    and also
    "More Republicans (42 percent) than Democrats (32 percent) or independents (34 percent) say they are “extremely” interested in the upcoming presidential election."

  •  Romney looks worse than Dole overall (0+ / 0-)

    I noticed one more thing in these numbers. The overall enthusiasm percentage, when you add Romney and Santorum let's say, is only 64% of the GOP.
    That has only been that low once by these numbers. And that was when Dole won the primary and lost summarily in the General Election.

    "I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -- George Carlin, Satirical Comic,(1937-2008)

    by Wynter on Thu Apr 12, 2012 at 05:08:50 PM PDT

  •  are all these polls from about the same time (0+ / 0-)

    in each campaign relative to when the last major contender dropped out?  Or just before they dropped out?

  •  to play devil's advocate... (0+ / 0-)
    if Mitt Romney can't even get his base to like him, how in the world is he going to win over enough swing voters to win the election?
    I think you could make a decent case nowadays for the opposite argument - how would any candidate who gets the modern Republican party base to like him be able to win over enough swing voters to win the election?

    On the not unreasonable assumption that the Republican base has moved more and more to the extremes in the past decade or so, it might be precisely those candidates who only get lukewarm support from the base who are in fact still electable.

    Far more worrying than the weak numbers among Republicans therefore are the poor favorables he's seeing among independents. But, as his campaign team let slip a few weeks ago, he's hoping that the "etch-a-sketch" strategy will fix that.

    .

  •  It looks like our great liberal conspiracy... (0+ / 0-)

    to get Romney appointed as the GOP candidate has succeeded folks!  Can't wait to watch the conservatives lose again in 2012!

    Bold Progressive. Deal with it.

    by novenator on Fri Apr 13, 2012 at 01:06:46 PM PDT

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