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There's a new ABC News/WaPo poll on public opinions of the tea party. The results (PDF) aren't great for the movement.
All told, 41 percent of Americans identify themselves as supporters of the movement, compared with a high of 47 percent last September. Forty-five percent oppose it; 14 percent have no opinion. Support has dropped disproportionately among young adults in that period, down 20 points from 51 percent to 31 percent.
So the kids today don't like them. Yes, shocking. This is probably worse news, though:
Fifty percent of Americans say the more they hear about the Tea Party, the less they like it; just 27 percent say they like it more. [...]

And while it’s strongly supported by 32 percent of conservative Republicans, the movement is strongly opposed by a much larger share of liberal Democrats, 62 percent. The two groups are similar in size. [...] The Tea Party has a gender gap, with 13 points more support from men than from women. And it does best with 30- to 49-year-olds, tailing off with under-30s and those 50 and older alike.

So support is dwindling, at least everywhere but in the Republican primaries, where crabby middle-aged white guys are treated as royalty. Even so, Mitt Romney's still courting them. Monday he spent time at a Tea Party Summit in Philadelphia, doing the usual meaningless pandering to the group:
"The economy is struggling because the government is too big, and we're going to bring it down to size," Romney told about 400 cheering people at the event organized by the Independence Hall Tea Party. "This campaign is going to be fun. The contrast could not be greater."

President Obama "doesn't understand the power and importance of economic freedom," Romney said. "I just don't think he understands what makes America such an exceptional and successful nation."

Sure, whatever.

A few days ago Romney went in front of the National Rifle Association and paid homage to all their most deeply held conspiracy theories about how Obama not doing a damn thing to take their guns is proof positive of a secret plan to take all their guns later, and now he's countering the notion that he's out of touch by going to a tea party event and saying tea partyish-things to them, even though the tea party is a net negative with the country as a whole. Sure, what the heck. I guess he's technically still in the primaries, even if his only remaining competition is Ron Paul and a traveling zoo aficionado.

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  •  The Teaparty was a "moment in time" (3+ / 0-)
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    wdrath, Anne Elk, a2nite

    Much like what appears to be the momentum of the Occupy movement.

    Only horses should wear blinders.

    by independantman on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 02:02:00 PM PDT

    •  The Tea Party was more than a moment (2+ / 0-)
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      independantman, Aunt Pat

      in time, it was a device to get the Conservative base out in 2010. It got them angry and anger is a form of excitement. As a result it got them out, at a time the Democratic Party was divided and dissatisfied with a Democratic Congress.

      "Movements" like the Tea Party will only work in non-Presidential election years where the turn out is low. Elections are always about GOTV and in 2010 as a result of the Tea Party the GOP was better.

      In 2012 the GOP has to disassociate from them, whilst pandering to the remaining fools who bought the message (and stupid hats).

  •  Hunter, the democrat haters (1+ / 0-)
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    Aunt Pat

    here at Daily Kos demand you stop writing about Mitt Romney! It is offensive to attack republicans during this elections season, when there are democrats to trash!

    •  spelling (0+ / 0-)

      All you have to do is check the spelling in those comments. They are from conservative trolls  who never know how to spell, or write, or think logically, because Fox didn't tell them what's RIGHT.

  •  Ahh Mitt, you'd think he has enough money to (2+ / 0-)
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    Aunt Pat, zestyann

    buy a clue. Clearly he's just waiting for the price to fall enough so he can exercise an LBO and corner the clue market.

    All my sig lines are hand-crafted by demented elves living in my skull.

    by ontheleftcoast on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 02:06:34 PM PDT

  •  I tried to tell them (4+ / 0-)
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    The BigotBasher, grover, Aunt Pat, beltane

    that the whole 3-cornered hat thing was never going to take off.

    Fructose is a liver poison. Stop eating it today.

    by Anne Elk on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 02:08:05 PM PDT

  •  Two things I thought I knew: (3+ / 0-)
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    greenomanic, Aunt Pat, native

    1. The Tea Party was most popular with seniors.  Turns out it's more popular with the 30-49 year old bracket.  Maybe the seniors have figured out Government involvement in Medicare is not such a bad thing after all.

    2. 47% liked the Tea Party last September.  I thought it would be lower than that - I mean that's all the Republicans and nearly half the Independents, a number I would have attributed to September 2010, not September 2011.  For it to be down to just 41% now shows that the country is still not listening to reason.

    I didn't know, but I'm now disappointed.  Gonna have to go educate more people now.

  •  About the NRA, "Hey Ted Nugent, why don't (1+ / 0-)
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    Aunt Pat

    you suck on one of these you punk coward of has-never-been rockstar?"

    Signed ERR

    "If I could wave my magic wand, I'd make everything all right. I'm not one to believe in magic But I sometimes have a second-sight I'm not one with a sense of proportion When my heart still changes overnight "

    by Ex Real Republican on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 02:11:44 PM PDT

  •  A "Party" created by Fox "News", (3+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, grover, Aunt Pat

    protesting Taxes (Taxed Enough Already) in 2009, immediately after Obama lowered taxes to the lowest level since the early '50s. Jeepers! You'd think it would have a longer shelf-life!

    Mitt Romney's Like A Box Of Chocolates. You Never Know What You're Gonna Get!

    by kitebro on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 02:12:33 PM PDT

    •  I thought Astro-turf was impossible to kill (2+ / 0-)
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      kitebro, Aunt Pat

      but nope, it turns out it will eventually disintegrate if exposed to enough sunlight.

      © grover


      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

      by grover on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 02:20:21 PM PDT

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      •  And lime. a shitload of calcium hydroxide. (2+ / 0-)
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        Aunt Pat, grover

        "If I could wave my magic wand, I'd make everything all right. I'm not one to believe in magic But I sometimes have a second-sight I'm not one with a sense of proportion When my heart still changes overnight "

        by Ex Real Republican on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 02:24:02 PM PDT

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        •  Hey, isn't that the active ingredient (0+ / 0-)

          in Tums?

          It seems that the Tea Party has me taking a lot of those these days...

          © grover


          So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

          by grover on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 02:29:30 PM PDT

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  •  wasn't the TP just a creation of (2+ / 0-)
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    The BigotBasher, Aunt Pat

    the kochs, as a way to advance libertarian policies, after it became obvious that the libertarian party was never going to get any traction?

  •  I can't believe (2+ / 0-)
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    Aunt Pat, greenomanic

    That a majority of young people ever supported the Tea Party.

    Geez, my generation pisses me off as much as my parents' generation sometimes.

    27, white male, TX-26 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

    by TDDVandy on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 02:14:05 PM PDT

    •  Gen-X gets pissed off easily. (0+ / 0-)

      Baby Boomers took all the good jobs, all the tax breaks, all the affordable housing, and left us with what?  Threats that they're going to obliterate social security, a decimated economy, and tuition that we can't possibly pay when we send our kids to school.

      The good thing is that in general, we're pretty flexible if you talk to us. After all, we're the generation that fell in love with Milli Vanili, punk rock and AC/DC,  grew up on "I Dream of Jeannie" and "Mork and Mindy," and programmed in COBOL and FORTRAN before we met Steve Jobs and Bill Gates

      We're pretty reasonable. We're willing to listen and want to have hope. You just need to to make us believe in something.

      © grover


      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

      by grover on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 02:27:39 PM PDT

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      •  Heh (0+ / 0-)

        I'm not in Gen-X.

        I'm, uh, Gen-Y (I abhor the term "millennials.")

        My generation got stuck with the worst name.

        27, white male, TX-26 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

        by TDDVandy on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 02:42:25 PM PDT

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        •  At least you got a name! (0+ / 0-)

          They called us Generation X because pretty much, after the baby boomers, we were so small, we didn't count. The sociologists/demographers/whoever couldn't be bothered to give us a name.

          "We'll call them 'X.'  Yeah, That's it. Generation X."

          It sounds cooler now, especially since we kind of embraced it as we entered our late teen and young adult years. But growing up, it really was pretty insulting.

          © grover


          So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

          by grover on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 03:37:51 PM PDT

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          •  X = ten (1+ / 0-)
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            grover

            GenX got its name because we're the tenth generation since the founding of the US. (see Howe & Strauss)

            The numbers on the GenX part of the Tea Party still seem bogus to me. I'd like to see more breakdown between Jones (1956-1966) and true X ('67-77) and bleeding edge Millies/Y ('78-85). Jones often get lumped into X, but they're distinct from X in that X is the first generation where the vast majority were the products of parenthood by choice, but Jones were primarily born to those who experienced the long Fifties as teens and young adults. (Booms experienced the 50s as children and young teens.) Booms were old enough to process the truly scary parts of the 60's as adults but Jones got that turmoil as children, when societal turmoil manifests primarily as inchoate fear. Jones are bearing the brunt of the generational squeeze and its resultant economic pain, whilst we X mostly get to skip it. Jones seems to me to be far  more likely to identify with the extreme tea'ers than the self-directed, pragmatic X. I've seen quite a few 35-45 (true X) with the technical Occupies, but very few 45-55; the reverse is true with the Tea groups.

            Not to mention that when a sample breaks down by age, it often fails to account for, or gives much greater weight, to smaller groups. Indeed, X is a small generation, so the 30%   In X means less in the overall picture. We just don't have as many white, blue collar men in my generation as in previous, and more working women.

            •  Interesting. (0+ / 0-)

              It's hard to tell with my generation (I was born in '84, so that makes me Gen Y I guess.)

              There are definitely strains of the Occupy movement; after all, we're the ones having to deal with our government's decision to let their private cronies get their hands on the student loan business.

              On the other hand, I've noticed a rather disturbing number of Teabaggers among my generation as well.  We're the first generation that grew up with cable, hence we don't have NEARLY as much of the common experiences that older generations did.

              27, white male, TX-26 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

              by TDDVandy on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 09:01:18 PM PDT

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  •  So we have fewer Tea Partiers... (3+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, Aunt Pat, Egalitare

    ...and more Republicans?  Hmm...

    I know there are people in the world that do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that. [Tom Lehrer]

    by KTinOhio on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 02:14:10 PM PDT

  •  So Mitt's jumping on board just in time to go down (2+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, Aunt Pat

    with the ship. Good for him.

  •  this is not surprising, after all... (2+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, Aunt Pat

    ...Mittch-A-Sketch Romney and his fellow Republicans are still clinging onto "trickle down economics," and it has been proven have been an abject failure. It comes as no surprise that he and his party are still clinging to the past...that is, after all, pretty much what they do. Wanting to...go back...to the "good old days" before Social Security, before Medicare, when they were both fully, 100% privatized (but, lets do it again, they say, because it worked so well the first time (not)). Same, too with abortion...lets push that back into the back alleys where scared girls went in desperation to opportunistic, illegal abortionists in back alleys using coat hangers. That worked well, too. Why not return to that? And, while we're at it, lets also return to the "good old days" before we have regulations and agencies overseeing the foods and drugs that people ingest. That worked out well, too (not).

    The fact that Mitch-A-Sketch Romney and his fellow Republicans are living in the past, regarding the Tea Party, as with everything else, comes as not surprise at all.

  •  During the Vietnam War Ted Nugent (1+ / 0-)
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    greenomanic

    was dodging the draft with Romney. It seems like all the outspoken NRA nuts are the biggest chickenhawks.

  •  bottom line is that they were the 27% (0+ / 0-)

    of diehard GOP that went down with McCain/Palin

  •  I Am A Liberal And I Own Guns (0+ / 0-)

    The NRA is not just about gun ownership.  The NRA has branched out into social issues too.  The NRA is just a front group for racist, anti-gay, PP bashing, anti-immigrant bashing voters.  I would bet that most people who belong to the NRA don't even own guns.  They just want people who are part of their group to have the right to be able to use guns against whatever group of peope they hate.

    "Don't Let Them Catch You With Your Eyes Closed"

    by rssrai on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 02:37:15 PM PDT

  •  Gonna be a lot of extra XXL minuteman costumes n/t (0+ / 0-)
  •  Somehow I don't find it at all encouraging (0+ / 0-)

    to hear that 41% of Americans support the tea party. That's an awful lot of support. And I'm even less encouraged to learn that at one time 47% did!

    These figures do not speak well for the over-all intelligence of the electorate.

    Like being in a room where almost half the people in it are lunatics. It ain't comfortable. Maybe a few of them have gone out for lunch, but maybe they'll be right back.

    "Here's another nice mess you've gotten me into." - Oliver Hardy

    by native on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 02:43:56 PM PDT

  •  Shorter Mitt Romney: (0+ / 0-)
    "The economy is struggling because the government is too big, and we're going to bring it down to size," Romney told about 400 cheering people at the event organized by the Independence Hall Tea Party. "This campaign is going to be fun. The contrast could not be greater."

    President Obama "doesn't understand the power and importance of economic freedom," Romney said. "I just don't think he understands what makes America such an exceptional and successful nation."

    Translation: N!&&@R N!&&@R N!&&@R!!!!!

    Fight until we win. Then we can begin arguing about the details. - Kwickkick (RIP) 2009

    by RickMassimo on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 02:47:15 PM PDT

  •  This is rich: (0+ / 0-)
    President Obama "doesn't understand the power and importance of economic freedom," Romney said. "I just don't think he understands what makes America such an exceptional and successful nation."
    You couldn't find a better example than President Obama of the kind of economic freedom that once made the U.S. a great nation. It's exactly what Romney and his ilk are trying to put to an end.
    The President couldn't just cash in his stocks to pay for school and rent.

    ...and dropping a bar bell he points to the sky, saying "The sun's not yellow-it's CHICKEN!"

    by porchdog1961 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 03:15:15 PM PDT

  •  Awesome, just awesome (0+ / 0-)
    A few days ago Romney went in front of the National Rifle Association and paid homage to all their most deeply held conspiracy theories about how Obama not doing a damn thing to take their guns is proof positive of a secret plan to take all their guns later...
    You are some kinda amazing with words.

    I am not a crockpot.

    by LaraJones on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 04:07:44 PM PDT

  •  They May Be Losing Support, (0+ / 0-)

    but there are still 80-90 of the fuckers in the House.

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