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    Our goals in life are to have liberty, pursuit of happiness and maintain of our basic needs. It has always been the inherent instinct of man, to seek the path of least resistance. Unfortunately, the path of least resistance, to the Wall Street elite and corrupt elected officials has become larceny by volume. One alleged to have done such is former Tyco CEO Kozlowski. He is in jail for buying $6000 shower curtains and lost his 1st parole hearing April 5, 2012

     Yes, I said in jail for a $6000 shower curtain (though it was also publicized that he had a $15,000 umbrella stand). What Mr. Kozlowski was tried for, was an "outrageous" pay package and (purportedly) laying claim to an unauthorized bonus. But he was crucified in the media for a $6000 shower curtain and $15,000 umbrella stand. He was not tried by his "peers" - that is for sure. There was no Blankfein, Paulson or Warren Buffet on the jury. Could you even imagine such?

    Documenting as if apropos knowledge that this article was to be written, the parole board said they understood it was his 1st offense but that was not all they wished to consider. As denoted by this USA Today story "Former Tyco CEO Kolowski denied parole" they vindictively denoted that;

The board said it took notice of Kozlowski's absence of any prior convictions and clean record behind bars, including a merit certificate. However, the panel concluded that early release at this time would "not be compatible with the welfare of society at large, and would tend to deprecate the seriousness" of his offenses.

    Now, before you go getting your stuff in a ringer - you need to pay attention to whom it is that brings you this message, seeking in you - better humanity. I am Laser (the Liquidator) Haas. My home, career and life savings has been plundered by Bain, Goldman Sachs and their cohorts - including corrupt rogue persons within the Department of Justice. They have destroyed me and my company (eToys) and I do want them arrested and convicted. It is neither weak of me or wrong of me to state that I don't want them to spend decades in prison - it serves no good purpose to think that way.

                                And I argue that you should agree.

Here's why;

Are you upset that no one has been indicted for the 2008 financial crisis?


      Recently, other appeals were denied. Enron's CEO Skilling was denied, OKUN of 1031 Tax Group who is doing 100 years - OKUN also lost his appeal. Adelphia's father and son lost their appeals. Madoff has gone on the record on how absurd his 125 year sentence is. Just a few weeks ago, Minnesota convicted Tom Petters - has just filed an appeal request at the US Supreme Court. He is doing 50 years in prison.

         Ask yourself this simple question  - "Are you satisfied that justice is done"?

                        Now, I will perplex you for a second. I am NOT satisfied!

      Don't get me wrong, I do want people arrested for their crimes. We must enforce civility and order - prudently. However, I argue with you that the punishment must fit the crime. We can give manslaughter and murder 6 to 18 years - more or less; but white collar crimes 125 years. This is absolutely absurd. Petters should have gotten 10 years, Madoff 10 years, Kozlowski 10 years, Okun 10 years and Skilling 10 years.

                       They should have been granted parole in 3 years or less.

Who are the real culprits and real victims?

      What is really going on here - is a shell game. We, the American people - are being played. The true culprit is a sinister, evil and seditious beast that placates us with massive sentences upon the few while there is destruction of the many. The true victim is Justice itself. The fabric of integrity of the system of justice has been laid waste and the perpetrators are those the American taxpayers hire to do the job of administrating justice. When they fail, do errors, ignore or destroy cases files (as confessed by the SEC and OSC [here] & [here]) = we, the American citizenry - Lose.

     Just tonight, CBS show 60 Minutes had a piece about Lehman Brothers - one of the largest bankruptcies and failures of all time. Only Enron was bigger. Turns out a crime was perpetrated in Lehman - but no one can be prosecuted - because the SEC was actually physically at Lehman Brothers on a daily basis. They are getting away with an actual crime. A fraudulent deception that the SEC seems to be willing to let slide. That is Bull [c]hit of the highest order. In the same level as the fact that JP Morgan and many law firms have benefited from the billions lost.

See the the video here;

What is Justice - Crime & Punishment

       Justice is defined by Merriam-Websiter (here) as the quality of being fair or just. Is it "fair" that Petters is doing 50 years and Madoff 125 years? Is it fair that Kozlowski's parole was denied? Is it fair that no one in Lehman Brothers has been charged?

       Was it proper for the SEC to destroy the Madoff files? Is it proper that Scott Bloch, the former head of the Dept of Justice's Office of Special Counsel ("OSC") - CONFESS to avoid any further prosecution and then refuse to do even 1 month in jail? The OSC division is the actual Whistle Blower's public integrity section of our federal system of justice. Scott Bloch swore an Oath to the people of the United States. He took tax payers monies and a salary far greater than most of those who paid for his hire. Is Madoff and Petters worse than this? I kid you not - read the Wikipedia remarks that;

On April 27, 2010 Bloch pleaded guilty to criminal contempt of Congress for, according to the U.S. Attorney, "willfully and unlawfully withholding pertinent information from a House committee investigating his decision to have several government computers wiped ...."[24] Bloch was originally slated to be sentenced on July 20, 2010. However, the sentencing was postponed after watchdog groups objected to a plea deal which would have likely seen Bloch only get probation; contempt of Congress carries a maximum sentence of six months in prison. On February 2, Magistrate Judge Deborah A. Robinson ruled that Bloch faces a mandatory sentence of at least one month in prison
     Since then, Scott Bloch has refused to do 1 month in jail and court battles have been waged to tear up the guilty plea. It is absolutely absurd that such a Breach of Fiduciary Duty and betrayal of the public's trust - does not even get a slap on the wrist.


       Things are all screwed up in this country. Corporations are not people, but their CEO's that get "caught" up in the vindictive - out for justice wind - can wind up doing decades in jail. But the SEC people who destroyed Madoff and eToys cases files, the US Attorneys who refused to prosecute their former friends, clients and associates - get a chance to become Judge or $1.5 Million sign on bonuses (Debra Yang the former DOJ head of President Bush's Corporate Fraud Task Force went to Gibson Dunn and got a whopper sign on Bonus).

       Then there is former AG John Ashcroft - who received a $50 million NO Bid contract from US Attorney Chris Christie. This is an OPEN public for of possible bribery and a blatant, flagrant thumb of his nose at the noble office he served.

        Paul Traub, Mitt Romney, Bain and Goldman Sachs stole my life, my career, my house and our company eToys. Though I do want them arrested and convicted for the crimes they did. I do NOT want them to spend decades in prison for it. Costing American taxpayers $50 thousand per year - for what - so that we can have our Prison Time Lust?  Hell NO! Instead, we should hit them where it hurts - take the monies they have - Totally. When they steal from others and co mingle the funds - they LOSE all the money. The same way a drug dealer cannot benefit from his hotel - that the drug monies acquired.

         But, beyond all that - the one group of persons that do belong in jail and to be publicly humiliated, disbarred, monies for salaries paid rescinded and a decade of jail time that they must EARN parole from - are public servants gone wrong.

        We all know this crap is going on and it has gotten so big, so out of control - we feel hopeless. They are taking the path of least resistance - our laxity/ apathy - and bashing us over the head towards oblivion.

       Those who betray the public trust - Any Judge, Prosecutor etc - who has done a bad faith act, betraying their oath and benefiting by career advance or worse. These are the true slimes. They are the SOLE reason that Lehman, Goldman Sachs, Bain, Bank of America and so many others can get away with massive larceny and frauds. Corruption of the public's office of duty is the true wickedness. Their failures are bankrupting our country - without remorse or relent. But hey, Kozlowski's parole was denied.

                       Thus, your desire for justice in America is satisfied - Correct!



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  •  Tip Jar (5+ / 0-)

    PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

    by laserhaas on Sun Apr 22, 2012 at 08:49:35 PM PDT

  •  Please sign this Anti Bain/ Romney Petition? (1+ / 0-)
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    PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

    by laserhaas on Sun Apr 22, 2012 at 08:56:14 PM PDT

  •  Thanks Mr. III.................................... (0+ / 0-)

    PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

    by laserhaas on Sun Apr 22, 2012 at 08:58:16 PM PDT

  •  Two words: Regulatory Capture n/t (3+ / 0-)
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    The important and difficult job is never to find the right answers, it is to find the right question. For there are few things as useless–if not dangerous–as the right answer to the wrong question. -- P. Drucker

    by The Angry Architect on Sun Apr 22, 2012 at 09:01:31 PM PDT

    •  WOW - T A A - Welcome to the fold and Thanks (1+ / 0-)
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      for the great coined phrase and concept. I do intend to research it further. It is as apropos as "Color of Law".

      ps - I'm following you now.....

      PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

      by laserhaas on Sun Apr 22, 2012 at 09:07:47 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks (1+ / 0-)
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        for the welcome, I am glad to me here.

        I wish that I could take credit for the phrase, but it has been around for a while. I discovered it while studying the effectiveness of and influence over government regulations and regulators.

        Another common refrain is that there is a "revolving door" between Washington and Wall Street (and many other industries for that matter), as those working in regulatory agencies often start their careers in the businesses that they are regulating. And guess where they often go when they leave government. Yup, right back to the private sector business they once "oversaw".

        Anyway, thanks again for the welcome, these issues are part of the reason I am here as The Angry Architect.

        The important and difficult job is never to find the right answers, it is to find the right question. For there are few things as useless–if not dangerous–as the right answer to the wrong question. -- P. Drucker

        by The Angry Architect on Mon Apr 23, 2012 at 07:47:12 AM PDT

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  •  devil's advocate here (1+ / 0-)
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    You argue that long sentences for white-collar criminals are inappropriate, that they should serve shorter periods of incarceration and be stripped of their assets, and that public servants who have betrayed the public trust should get long sentences.

    While I don't necessarily disagree, I note that unlike the perpetrators of most violent crime, which is nearly always committed by young males, white collar criminals do not become less apt to commit further offenses as they get older. The case can be made that it makes sense to lock up white collar criminals for longer on the grounds that they, like arsonists and sex offenders, represent more of a continuing threat to the community.

    That said, it is my view for all kinds of criminal offenses that far too many people in America are sent to prison and their sentences are much too long.

    " 'In this world, Elwood, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." Elwood P. Dowd

    by paulbkk on Sun Apr 22, 2012 at 11:54:10 PM PDT

    •  I did not say that public servants should get (0+ / 0-)

      longer sentences. Just that their bad faith is more extensively heinous and egregious.

      Like sex offenders on a list - white collar criminals are upon a permanent list - thus they are far less likely to be able to perpetrate white collar offenses

      Especially CEO's

      There's many state laws and SarOx too - that forbids the crimes that are transpiring in our eToys, Kay Bee, Stage, Jumbo Sports etc cases.

      It is Totally verboten - for a person to go from one company to another - which winds up in Bankruptcy.

      Jack Bush worked with Bain, Traub, Romney back in NeoStar, Jumbo Sports and Stage Stores.

      If the law were appropriately administrated - we would not be having these conversations and I would still have eToys.

      PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

      by laserhaas on Mon Apr 23, 2012 at 12:12:54 AM PDT

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    •  By the way - I concur on the too many people in (0+ / 0-)

      jails and too long sentences

      Sometime this week, I intend to do a D on For Profit prisoners.

      PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

      by laserhaas on Mon Apr 23, 2012 at 12:13:59 AM PDT

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  •  Okay Paul - I take back all my arguendos, Ur UFO (1+ / 0-)
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    empirical data D - gets me..........

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    by laserhaas on Mon Apr 23, 2012 at 12:17:40 AM PDT

  •  and pot smokers? (1+ / 0-)
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    the scumbags you describe are not in any prison you'll see on MSNBC. They needn't worry about getting raped or having the whites of their eyes tattooed purple. We have a two tier system that CEOs take advantage of every day. Crimes against democracy should be held in higher contempt than I think you do. Prisons are there for a reason, the fact that they've been abused with for profit non violent offenders cannot be confused with real crime and Punishment. Our prisons are full of people that stole much less and much less deviously than those you seem to defend. The entire SEC, FCC, CIA and FBI should be behind bars as should most of our fascist government, but that's not the way it works.

    "HAPPINESS IS A CHOICE" , bumpersticker on a burning Subaru

    by tRueffert on Mon Apr 23, 2012 at 04:37:29 AM PDT

    •  DEFEND - "moi" - you are tok'n smok'n....and (0+ / 0-)

      go too far with the entire conclusion as well.

      The rank and file does good work - it is top tier and politico appointees - who are the problem.

      CIA may even have people guilty enough to warrant criminal prosecutions - including our top dogs. Remember - Bush Sr was the head of the dead.
      Just saw him on a TV show (maybe 60 Minutes or the I.D. channel) - where he "Confessed"  that the war against Saddam - also included a plan to get their oil. To the victor belongs the spoils. Most evil men, even Hitler - talk themselves into doing what they do - based upon some perverted sense of righteousness.

      Now I do concur with your "devious" conclusion. It is far more wicked to state you are the good guy (swear an oath to defend the Constitution) and then assault such.

      That is Treason!

      But = they should not be put to death for going with the flow.

      We are the ones responsible - the lax / apathetic masses - who don't get involved unless MSM tells us to do so.

      Please don't put words in a fellow kossacks mouth and never, EVER, imply, infer or accuse me of defending the evil. That false allegation is divisive and rubs salt in the wound of this victim. Is that what you really wish to do?

      PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

      by laserhaas on Mon Apr 23, 2012 at 06:03:10 AM PDT

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      •  I actually think 3 yrs is long enough to repent if (1+ / 0-)
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        repentance is possible, but the scale needs to be used under our current system and the CEO of TYCO should do much more time than your average drug offender.

        Crimes against democracy should be held in higher contempt than I think you do.
        seems to be your choking point and that was a judgement call after reading your diary. Sorry for the offense.
        If you find me too cynical, sorry for that too. (more cynicism)

        "HAPPINESS IS A CHOICE" , bumpersticker on a burning Subaru

        by tRueffert on Tue Apr 24, 2012 at 05:28:11 AM PDT

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        •  LOL - sorry for that (more cynicism)..... I am (0+ / 0-)

          for punishment. But prison is not the only answer.

          You are correct, that betrayal of the public's trust is more heinous and egregious than many drug crimes (except those drug import crimes perpetrated by our own officials)

          But, if you want true deterrent. Then get truly on the case of taking everything they own.

          If a public official has betrayed that entrusted position - their salary is forfeit and life needs be under a total microscope to explain the reasons why.

          PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

          by laserhaas on Tue Apr 24, 2012 at 08:40:20 AM PDT

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