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Mommy Republicans? Not so much.
Here's some bad news for Mitt Romney and Republicans: moms (a subset of the also not-very-attainable Lady Voters category Republicans are desperate to woo) just aren't that into them.

Public Policy Polling for Daily Kos & SEIU. 4/19-22. Registered voters. MoE: ±3.1% (4/12-15 results):

Which party do you think better represents the interests of mothers?

Democrats........................................................ 48%
Republicans........................................................36%
Both equally....................................................... 8%
Not sure............................................................ 8%

Those numbers are almost the same among all voters, by the way, not just moms.

Remember, this poll was conducted after Republicans seized on a completely true statement about Ann Romney's never having worked (something she herself has said many times), and tried to use against President Obama and the Democrats. Suddenly, Democrats were waging a war on moms, and only Republicans respect them and the hard work they do. They even sold mom mugs!

Yeah, well, no one's buying it, especially not moms. They might not be over the moon about Democrats, but they definitely don't like Republicans. Oh, and they're not so into Mitt Romney either:

  • 43 percent of mothers intend to vote for Mitt Romney; 50 percent intend to vote for President Obama
  • 36 percent of mothers have a favorable opinion of Mitt Romney; 50 percent have an unfavorable opinion
  • 34 percent of mothers have a favorable opinion of the Republican Party;    52 percent have an unfavorable opinion
  • 47 percent of mothers have a favorable opinion of the Democratic Party; 43 percent have an unfavorable opinion

Of course, the election is still half a year away, and those numbers can change a thousand times between now and then. But so far, women aren't buying the bullshit Republicans are selling. Mitt Romney and his crack team may have devised a three-pronged strategy to make the chicks dig him, and Ann Romney, chief adviser on Stuff That Ladies Care AboutTM, may have reported back to Mitt on said Stuff That Ladies Care AboutTM, but that doesn't mean the Republican message of telling women what they should and shouldn't care about—you should care about lower taxes for the rich; you shouldn't care about access to affordable health care—is working. Because as of now, it's pretty clear that it isn't.

Originally posted to Kaili Joy Gray on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 08:39 AM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  but but but....Mitt has yet to unzip.......(sorry, (5+ / 0-)

    couldn't help it)

  •  Ann Romney revealed a tendency to overdo it... (10+ / 0-)

    ...she was amazing at warming up crowds to Mitt during the primary, and is very smart and well-poised. But the degree to which she overdid her "I'm every mom, it's all in me" Matriarch Grizzly routine -- both in quality and quantity -- really showed a lack of self-awareness.

    Hopefully that continues.

    On substance the President wins "moms" easily with his health care, education, and women's rights policies. A transparently patronizing Mrs. Romney isn't going to hurt, though.

    it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

    by Addison on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 08:44:28 AM PDT

  •  Great adaptation of the GOPosaur (9+ / 0-)

    with babies!!  I love it.

    "Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine." -- Patti Smith

    by followyourbliss on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 09:01:45 AM PDT

  •  Life events that change perspective (10+ / 0-)

    There are some events in a person's life that impact on their political outlook. Buying one's first home may tend to make a person more conservative, but becoming a parent creates an awareness of a whole range of issues that Democrats understand and Republicans do not.

    When you are responsible for the well-being of another person (and this applies to caring for elderly parents as well), your nurturing impulses eclipse the defensive ones.

    As a parent, one sees in a very personal way the importance of education, health coverage, economic opportunity, pay equity, and social justice, to name some of the issues. Parents of girls - presumably at least 50% of parents - may be particularly aware of a range of issues on which Democrats are prepared to act while Republicans try to turn back the clock.

    Furthermore, parents tend to broaden their range of acquaintances through their children's schools and afterschool activities. There is nothing so broadening and "Democratizing" as seeing how different people live.

  •  I'm thinkin' some Dads may not be keen on Mitt, (9+ / 0-)

    ... either.

    Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

    by TRPChicago on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 09:05:25 AM PDT

  •  It's important to emphasize that what the current (7+ / 0-)

    crop of republican candidates are espousing and ruthlessly expressing are the stripped down and denuded core principles of conservative dogma. What people are seeing in the republican party these days is the ugly face of conservatism. Now being unabashedly revealed, people are rejecting it.

    It's a prime time to remind people that within ourselves at our very core -- at least if you are a caring human being -- you have liberal fundamental beliefs.

    And we should let people know that that's OK. In fact, such core principles should be the basis for how we address the problems we as a nation, and as a global people, are facing.

    It's time Americans got back in touch with their liberal compassionate side again.

    Romney - his fingernails have never been anything but manicured.

    by Pescadero Bill on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 09:06:17 AM PDT

    •  I don't agree (1+ / 0-)
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      JamieG from Md

      I agree that we are seeing it but I don't see signs they are rejecting it yet.

      What I see is they don't like it but many of the ones that don't plan to hold their noses and vote for it anyway.

      Based of the answers in the poll Romney's support should be around 35% with these people but he's running at 43%. He's really outperforming by 8% with this group. That isn't exactly wholesale rejection.

      •  I was thinking about that as well (0+ / 0-)

        Shop Liberally this holiday season at Kos Katalog

        by JamieG from Md on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 09:46:36 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  It's fear promoting self-survival reflexes. (0+ / 0-)

        And the continuing success of propaganda. Only bound to get worse as time goes by.

        But I'll contend that a majority of all people are liberal in their core beings. The idea that you can see that they don't like greed-based conservatism says to me they reject it, but are allowing their self-survival self interests (confused by effective ad campaigns) to override their more liberal instincts to do what's best for the survival of the whole.

        Expose the suffering to negate the effectiveness of the propaganda and the numbers will more likely reflect that 35% figure. People, especially women perhaps, will reject the cruel tenets of conservatism.

        Romney - his fingernails have never been anything but manicured.

        by Pescadero Bill on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 10:19:50 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  What Ann Romney doesn't get (6+ / 0-)

    besides the obvious difference that having a hundred million dollars in the bank makes, is that working moms (and dads) do all the same stuff that stay at home moms do - just at night and on the weekend.

    Feed the kids? Check
    Wash the dishes? Check
    Do the laundry? Check
    Clean the house? Check
    Help with homework? Check
    Drive to soccer practice? Check
    Shop for groceries? Check

    Working moms and dads do all that stuff and more, and go to work, all without having a hundred million bucks in the bank - or a Swiss Bank Account. That would be a nightmare for Ann RMoney.

    •  No defending Rosen (1+ / 0-)
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      rosarugosa

      Mothers (and fathers) don't like Republicans for all the obvious reasons. But you are barking up the tree by slying implying that some of this is a result of backlash against those who seized on the "Ann never worked" remark.

      Rosen's remark was not only offensive but counter-productive. It not only gives the bad guys ammunition but it leaves a bad taste in the mouth of those progressives who believe that all women work, and who fought for decades to remove narrow, judgmental characterizations of what counts and what does not when women work.

      Mothers don't like Republicans in spite of comments like Rosen's. Defending her with disingenuous comments like

      ...a completely true statement about Ann Romney's never having worked...
      is uncalled for.
      •  That was people's initial reaction (1+ / 0-)
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        nellgwen

        but I think they're rethinking it.

        Shop Liberally this holiday season at Kos Katalog

        by JamieG from Md on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 09:48:05 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Especially after Ann 's (2+ / 0-)
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          bear83, JamieG from Md

          latest remark.
            "I love the fact that there are women out there who don’t have a choice and they must go to work and they still have to raise the kids. Thank goodness that we value those people too. And sometimes life isn’t easy for any of us."

          "Herring and oranges, herring and oranges, anyone?" (sigh) "Turnips and anchovies?" (sigh) "Coffee?" Nellgwen

          by nellgwen on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 10:34:52 AM PDT

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      •  Why is it uncalled for? Is this the 50's? (2+ / 0-)
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        mmacdDE, milton333

        Not to defend Rosen who is simply a CNN employee making news for CNN to cover so that they can have another "bad news for Democrats" day.

        But what was offensive about it?   Are we supposed to take her views on working moms seriously without pointing out that she is not one?

        •  Lots of reasons (0+ / 0-)

          It's offensive because mothers who stay home are working mothers, too, even rich ones.  Even welfare mothers.

          The remark was not meant as an objective description, but rather to disparage mothers who don't "work".
          To buy into that is not only divisive and politically stupid, but offensive to anyone who believes in the diversity of human experience and in allowing people choices without having to suffer arbitrary judgments.

    •  reply to Kaili Joy Gray, not bear83 (0+ / 0-)

      sorry -- I replied at the wrong level. This was in response to the author of the string, not to bear83

  •  Are you sure you won't need help? (5+ / 0-)
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    Witgren, allergywoman, mmacdDE, Matt Z, susans

    Only a minority of people need help right now.

    There's nothing like being resposible for another human being to increase your worries about needing help in the future.

    Unless you worry about needing a greater tax cut on your future $1,000,000 / year, that means you want the Democrats in.

    Rowling, who certainly won't need any help in the future, was once a stuggling single mother. She's now a multimillionaire. She has written that she knows the Tories would be better for her now, but having lived through the struggles of being a poor single parent, she will never vote for the Tories.

    Cuddling other people's babies for fifty years.

    by Frank Palmer on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 09:17:23 AM PDT

  •  Can someone explain (0+ / 0-)

    The American Indian numbers? Federal vs non-Federal tribes.

    •  I have a theory with no data (1+ / 0-)
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      fcvaguy

      It would not surprise me if there was a quiet movement among certain conservative whites with a "nationalist" outlook to identify themselves as native Americans.

      And remember: If you don't like the news, go out and make some of your own. - Scoop Nisker, the Last News Show

      by North Madison on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 09:36:51 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Yes (1+ / 0-)
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      fcvaguy

      There are tribes that are formally by the government as "official", which means they have a formal relationship with each other, U.S. to tribe. What that means is too complex to explain here.

      There are other tribes that are not federal, i.e. officially recognized, that have no such relationship, however, that does not mean those tribes are not legitimate. Again, too complex for a mere comment.

      If you want details, you'll find them in numerous books and websites.

      My BIL (Otoe-Missouria, Federal tribe) works at a large Indian center here and says everyone on staff votes Democrat.

  •  Still warning signs (0+ / 0-)

    Mitt still gets a lot of support above who actually approves of him, likes republicans, or thinks the GOP is good for mothers.

    Basically what it looks like is Mitt will get EVERYONE that doesn't like democrats. He will outperform his terrible numbers with women because a portion of women who don't like him or the GOP because they are anti-woman look like they are planning on voting for Mitt and the GOP anyway.

    Obama has the opposite issue. Basically whomever supports him, approves of him, and approves of democrats votes for him. Obama doesn't get the support of anyone else. As long as he keeps his numbers up he wins. If he doesn't you can't count on any anti-GOP or anti-Mitt vote to help you. Most of those people seem to want to hold their noses and vote for the GOP anyway.

  •  OK, so, re-arranging: (3+ / 0-)
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    allergywoman, brillig, Matt Z
    43 percent of mothers intend to vote for Mitt Romney; 50 percent intend to vote for President Obama

     47 percent of mothers have a favorable opinion of the Democratic Party; 43 percent have an unfavorable opinion

    AND

     36 percent of mothers have a favorable opinion of Mitt Romney; 50 percent have an unfavorable opinion

     34 percent of mothers have a favorable opinion of the Republican Party; 52 percent have an unfavorable opinion

    The 43% who will vote for Mitt, are basically the same 43% of who dislike Dems.    Yet only 36 or 34% approve of Romney and Republicans.   Takehome might be that there is about 9% of people who hate R's but hate D's even more.  

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 09:25:05 AM PDT

  •  "Even if you have a 2yo you need to go to work" (1+ / 0-)
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    jfromga

    According to Romney.   Unless you are Ann, of course.

    "I wanted to increase the work requirement," said Romney. "I said, for instance, that even if you have a child 2 years of age, you need to go to work. And people said, 'Well that's heartless.' And I said, 'No, no, I'm willing to spend more giving day care to allow those parents to go back to work. It'll cost the state more providing that daycare, but I want the individuals to have the dignity of work.'"

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

    •  And this is the great businessman? (1+ / 0-)
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      rosarugosa

      He doesn't care that it costs MORE to provide daycare, he would rather separate children from their parents for the bulk of the day, so somebody can make a pittance, even though it costs MORE?

      Why not spend that daycare money on providing training (parenting, nutrition, and job related), and birth control for the parents, while allowing them to care for their own kids, so that they have fewer children, don't have to remain out of the workforce as long, and when they DO return to the workforce they make more money (and pay more taxes)?  

      Wouldn't that be a much better use of that money? Better for the parent, because they use that time with their kids and preparing for the future; better for the kids, because they get to spend time with their parents; and better for the country, because we get back better educated workers who are prepared for the future.

      But no, this is the much vaunted MBA who thinks it's better to have kids warehoused in what will likely be overcrowded daycare while their parents work at low-level jobs, with no future at all, and spend MORE to do it.

      Doesn't sound like a good business plan to me.

  •  Okay, lady, put the graphics down (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Kaili Joy Gray

    and step away from Picasa (or whatever software you use). You're having wayyyyyyyyyy too much fun with sciencey stuff, and you should know by now that can only be engaged in by men in lab coats that Mitt Romney's friends own!

    Good to see people aren't falling for the Mittshit.

  •  and single women, moms or not, (1+ / 0-)
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    grover

    really dislike Republicans, too.   Pretty much, they have a problem with women.  On so many levels.

    •  Most of my married childless friends (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      jfromga

      Can't stand him. But female DINKs tend to be educated independent women. They can see through a shallow say-anything guy like Mitt Romney 50 miles away.

      And those mugs? How freaking insulting are those? Moms Do Work? Whom are they trying to convince?   $15 for a crappy plastic mug that won't even keep coffee warm?

      Rich GOP women would never be caught dead carrying one of those around. Working GOP moms have to, you know, buy health insurance, school supplies, school bus tickets, contraceptives to avoid having another child they can't afford, all those lady things that government should be helping them out with....

      © grover


      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

      by grover on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 09:48:09 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I'll bet those mugs (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        grover

        were made in China. By severely overworked women.

        •  Asdf (0+ / 0-)
          severely overworked women children
          Fixed that for you.

          /No cute little smiley face here because while my goal is to be snarky, I'm kind of afraid it might be true. I've looked through far too many of those branded item catalogs....  Ah, heck, what a downer comment. I should have jist put in a sad frowny face. Here:

          :(

          © grover


          So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

          by grover on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 11:30:34 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  I bet a large percentage of Republican's (1+ / 0-)
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    Stude Dude

    own moms don't like them.

    I believe all Southern liberals come from the same starting point -- race. Once you figure out they are lying to you about race, you start to question everything.- Molly Ivins

    by shoeless on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 09:32:18 AM PDT

  •  PS Enjoying the evolution of the GOPosaur graphic (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    grover

    first the elephant morphing into the dino, the dino putting on high heels, and now spawning the little gopo's below.

    The ones riding on mom don't look right, though. We just don't associate marsupial or primate baby-carrying with our thunder lizards.  And it clutters up the image.

      I humbly suggest they should revise the graphic to keep the upper silhouette clean.  

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 09:32:45 AM PDT

    •  Ah, darn, I was going to suggest pearls and (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      lgmcp

      Fluttery eyelashes.

      After all, the working GOP mom has to be ready to drop by the country golf dressage club  at any time.

      © grover


      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

      by grover on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 09:56:31 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  George W Bush new what he was doing (0+ / 0-)

    George W new what he was doing when in 2000 he ran as a "compassionate conservative". He must have used a focus group of independent voters and asked:"What don't you like about conservatives?". They responded: "They are not compassionate". The George W. campaign fixed the situation by combining the two words: compassionate conservative. I don't think Mitt can do this in 2012.

  •  Isn't every DK/SEIU poll (0+ / 0-)

    supposed to be bad news for Romney?

  •  Guess what! Dogs don't like Republicans (0+ / 0-)

    Slow thinkers - keep right

    by Dave the Wave on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 10:09:11 AM PDT

  •  What about moms with 2 caddies and a car elevator? (0+ / 0-)

    Gotcha there, huh?

    If Obama doesn't deserve credit for getting Bin Laden because he didn't pull the trigger, Bin Laden doesn't deserve the blame for 9-11 because he didn't fly the planes.

    by Bush Bites on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 10:15:14 AM PDT

  •  Mommas don't let your babies grow up to be (0+ / 0-)

    goopers.

    If there is no accountability for those who authorized torture, we can no longer say that we are a nation of laws, not men.

    by MikePhoenix on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 10:18:11 AM PDT

  •  I'm still trying to figure out... (1+ / 0-)
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    posthuman

    what "ladies" and "women" are. Because according to Herman Cain, there are "men", and other people.

    I don't see Other People as a category in your poll.

    "But hate wears you down, and does not hurt your enemy. It is like taking poison and wishing your enemy would die." - - Cherokee saying

    by brillig on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 10:31:13 AM PDT

    •  Women are liberal (1+ / 0-)
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      brillig

      and want to use birth control and have abortions and not be stay at home moms.

      Ladies are clean, and white, and married to men in the 1%.

      Other people have lady business instead of penises, and therefore have trouble thinking clearly.

      Got it?

      •  Oh... (0+ / 0-)

        Well that certainly clears THAT up. ::grin::

        brillig, who is decidedly a woman even though I work as a SAHM, but apparently not a lady even though I shower regularly and have ancestral roots in England, Ireland and Scandinavia :). I'm sure I mess w Mister Cain's worldview on an hourly basis :)

        "But hate wears you down, and does not hurt your enemy. It is like taking poison and wishing your enemy would die." - - Cherokee saying

        by brillig on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 01:14:32 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  What the? Hadn't seen that one before (1+ / 0-)
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      brillig

      But it's another classic from the Cain file.  Keep the Cain coming!  I can't get enough.

  •  Republicans used to assert with confidence (1+ / 0-)
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    DSPS owl

    that Democrats only had an advantage among women without children. Women with children would continue to vote Republican.

    Well, that's gone now.

    "Mistress of the Topaz" is now available in paperback! Link here: http://www.double-dragon-ebooks.com/single.php?ISBN=1-55404-900-8

    by Kimball Cross on Wed Apr 25, 2012 at 10:49:45 AM PDT

  •  Mom mugs are awesome (0+ / 0-)

    If the money didn't go to support the forces of evil I'd buy one and pass it on to my grandchildren - it would be a nice souvenir of the kind of idiocy that led to the Revolution.

  •  The Tea Party and the GOP is lucky that any moms (0+ / 0-)

    support them. They are dismantling everything that our children need. The public school system should be saved and improved, not dismantled in the form of inferior charter schools or online schools. Also, colleges and universities need more funding.

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