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Now, about those tax returns, Mr. Romney ...
The candidates for Senate from Massachusetts, Democratic challenger Elizabeth Warren and incumbent Scott Brown, both released several years of tax returns today to general yawns. Really, there's pretty much nothing there.

Now that we're done with that bit of campaign theater, let's talk about the interesting part: why Eric Fehrnstrom, who advises both the Brown and Mitt Romney campaigns, thinks personal tax transparency is so important in the Massachusetts Senate race, but doesn't matter in the presidential race.

Fehrnstrom isn't the only one. Here's Karl Rove in a Wall Street Journal column, on vetting a vice presidential candidate:

Having played a role in this process, I know that if done well this will be a political proctology exam for each individual considered. Ms. Myers and an army of lawyers, researchers and accountants will examine the person's every public statement, vote or executive decision; they will review tax returns and financial records; and they will scrutinize friends and associates. They also will ask finalists what in their background could embarrass Mr. Romney if it came out, because it will. [...]

 But such political decisions run into one hard reality: Running mates haven't decided an election in more than a half-century.

So, even though the VP nominee doesn't decide elections, all the candidates will undergo "political proctology." But the top of the ticket gets away with refusing to bend over?

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 11:14 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (15+ / 0-)

    "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

    by Joan McCarter on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 11:14:17 AM PDT

  •  We must continue to hammer (12+ / 0-)

    the idea that whatever is in the returns it is so horrible that Romney would rather have people speculate than actually know.

    Every time McCain appears in public, he should be asked " What was in Romney's returns that convinced you to eliminate him from consideration for VP?"

    Every time Romney appears in public, he should be asked "What is in the returns that makes you so afraid to release them to the public, after you released them to Senator McCain?"

    Remember, the one return we have seen was submitted after he began his run for the Presidency.   "I'm running for office, for gawd's sake."

    As my father used to say,"We have the best government money can buy."

    by BPARTR on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 11:19:58 AM PDT

  •  Three points to focus on for Obama (7+ / 0-)

    1. Why hasnt Romney released his past tax returns. Why not release as many as the Obamas(12 years)?

    2. Why hasnt Romney released records from Bain that prove his job growth claims? When the POTUS makes a claim about job growth, you can go to the Labor Dept site to check if he is right. We just have to trust Romney on his 100k job claim.

    3. Why was job growth 47th in the nation when Romney was governor? If his private sector economic skills didnt transfer to his job as governor, why should we believe they will transfer to his job as president?

  •  LOL at this point in the diary (1+ / 0-)
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    Joan McCarter
    They also will ask finalists what in their background could embarrass Mr. Romney if it came out, because it will. [...]
    Mittens is so low what could ANYONE do to embarrass HIM?!!!!!

    "Stupid is as stupid does" - The republican motto you can believe in as they live it daily!

    by Mannie on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 11:38:48 AM PDT

  •  Did Mr. Turdblossom pen that WSJ piece before the (5+ / 0-)

    Palin debacle...or what?

    Running mates haven't decided an election in more than a half-century.
    I guess there's no evidence that she lost the election for McCain but she certainly cemented his demise.

    I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the powerful. State Senator Rodney Ellis (D - TX)

    by blueyescryinintherain on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 11:47:45 AM PDT

  •  Elizabeth Warren and Scott Brown tax returns (3+ / 0-)
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    PSzymeczek, judyms9, Matt Z

    released, now where are Mitt Romney's?

    In a Swiss vault.

    "Activism begins with you, Democracy begins with you, get out there, get active! Tag, you're it!" Thom Hartmann

    by glogrrl on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 11:49:10 AM PDT

    •  With Scott Brown's adviser also... (0+ / 0-)

      ...advising Mitt Romney, the larger question has to be asked-- what is Mitt Romney hiding. He has made his financial success a selling point for his candidacy, and the American people have every right to know how Romney made his money. Barack Obama has released tax returns that date back to 2000. Why is Romney so afraid to release everything but his most recent returns when he wasn't so fearful of doing so when John McCain was considering vice presidential picks in 2008? What is it that McCain's staff saw that Romney is trying to hide?

      "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." --Gandhi

      by alaprst on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 12:12:40 PM PDT

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  •  This is turning out to be a good little election. (2+ / 0-)

    The Repub is acting like a entitled rich asshole born to the manor and the Dem's acting like an up-from-the-bootstraps guy who suceeded under tough circumstances.

    Which America is going to win?

    If Obama doesn't deserve credit for getting Bin Laden because he didn't pull the trigger, Bin Laden doesn't deserve the blame for 9-11 because he didn't fly the planes.

    by Bush Bites on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 11:50:06 AM PDT

  •  Old Trick? (0+ / 0-)

    It's the wedge politics gambit. House Republicans think alienate one or both of two Democrats' electoral constituencies, young students or women who need help with basic healthcare.

    If he vetoes the bill will the students and women be disappointed enough to stay away from the polls in November? Or will they be tuned in and mad enough to make sure those who are trying to fuck them get voted out?

  •  asdf (0+ / 0-)
    So, even though the VP nominee doesn't decide elections, all the candidates will undergo "political proctology." But the top of the ticket gets away with refusing to bend over?
    So, in addition to that political proctology will there also be a political transvaginal ultrasound?
  •  I don't know. (1+ / 0-)
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    judyms9

    Rove talks a little too much about anuses for my comfort.

    Reminds me of a sign I once saw hung on the outside of a proctologist's office building:

    Dr. Smith - Proctologist

        Parking in Rear


    And, no, I'm not kidding.


    may we not be strangers in the lush province of joy - Charles Wright

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 11:56:02 AM PDT

  •  Yes, Karl, (1+ / 0-)
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    TofG

    Just like McCain did, right?

    Ms. Myers and an army of lawyers, researchers and accountants will examine the person's every public statement, vote or executive decision; they will review tax returns and financial records; and they will scrutinize friends and associates. They also will ask finalists what in their background could embarrass Mr. Romney if it came out, because it will.
    I don't think Romney's team has the smarts to do a proper vetting.


    may we not be strangers in the lush province of joy - Charles Wright

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 12:00:49 PM PDT

  •  Speaking of vetting candidates (1+ / 0-)
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    liberte

    Is it the fourth day of John Edwards trial today or the fifth?

    Gads. The message was so strong but the man was so weak.

    But I don't WANT to live in "interesting times" dammit!

    by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 12:02:47 PM PDT

  •  it's time for that exam (1+ / 0-)
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    judyms9

    Maybe Mitt should get a proctology exam; it often seems that there may be a stick stuck up his...

    See how Mr. Rove has, yet again, brought down the national conversation?  

    When the Supreme Court disrespected voters -- and the Constitution -- and put "Turdblossom" and his friends in positions of high places, everything began to devolve.  

  •  Maybe Rowmoney is worried the FEC... (0+ / 0-)

    ...would regard any taxes paid by MR as an illegal campaign expense - kinda like Edwards paying off his GF.

    That Giant Sucking Sound Is Wall Street Billionaires Drinking Your Blood.

    by olo on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 12:15:45 PM PDT

  •  Won't see them. Romney didn't release '08 or '09 (1+ / 0-)
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    judyms9

    to anybody.  We only saw '10 (and I bet that gets re-stated), and the 'estimate' of '11 (with an extension, first of many).

    Remember, McCain saw '07 and before and as a result didn't pick Romney.  Personally I think Romney made money in the crash in '08 and has been feverishly moving money around to make the '10 returns look better.

    His entire strategy, IMHO, was to release just the '10 taxes and make them look good.

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 12:19:50 PM PDT

  •  Older tax returns may have the smell of insider (0+ / 0-)

    trading or investment in nations considered our enemies.

    Romney went to France instead of serving in our military, got rich chop-shopping US businesses and eliminating US jobs, off-shored his money in the Cayman Island"s, and now tells us to "Believe in America."

    by judyms9 on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 12:55:45 PM PDT

  •  Romney had a capital loss carryover from 2009 (1+ / 0-)
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    laserhaas

    If you look at Romney's 2010 tax return, you'll see that he had a $4.8 million capital loss carryover from 2009, meaning he reported more capital losses than capital gains in 2009.  Since most of his income is capital gains taxed at 15%, he probably had almost no tax liability in 2009.

    The mystery is the source of the capital loss.  Was it a contrived loss from a tax shelter designed solely to reduce his already low taxes--something that would surely outrage the average taxpayer--or was it a genuine loss from a failed investment?

    I think that's the reason Romney is not releasing his returns prior to 2010.

    •  I'll keep saying it - till someone with some (0+ / 0-)

      matzah goes after it.

      Items Mitt the pitts does not want you to know.

      1.    Sankaty in Bermuda ($1 billion in cash he owns 100%)
      2.    Bain is benefiting from federal frauds = Romney too.
      3.    Toys R Us owned by Bain Frauds of KB, FAO, eToys
      4.    Fingerhut owned by Petters funded by Sachs & Bain
      5.    Mitt Romney & The Learning Co (loss $1 billion Mattel)
      6.    Paul Traub, Jack Bush, Barry Gold at Stage Stores
      7.    Mitt Romney owned 800,000 shares of Stage Stores
      8.    Jack Bush, Barry Gold, Paul Traub Jumbo Sports too
      9.    Stage Stores was Co-Debtor with Liquidity Solutions
      10.  Michael Glazer was at Stage Stores and CEO of KB

           Barry Gold hired Paul Traub in Stage Stores then Paul Traub's firm paid Barry Gold 4 payments of $30,000 each and then snuck him in as CEO (illegally) into eToys.

            The attorney that handled the merger of Romney's the Learning Company with Mattel is MNAT in 1999 by Goldman Sachs. Also in 1999 - eToys went public for tons of money. Then in 2000 Bain bought Kay Bee and had the CEO of KB (Michael Glazer) go to Stage Stores too.

              Then, MNAT became the illegal attorney for eToys by LYING under oath about MNAT's being connected to Bain, Kay Bee, Mattel and Goldman Sachs.

              Paul Traub lied too and conspired with MNAT to put in Traub's secret partner (Barry Gold) as eToys CEO - (throwing me out - when I did not take a bribe to play along)

              After Barry Gold was made the illegal (secret) CEO of eToys - Liquidity Solutions began buying up eToys claims (gain ILLEGAL because the crooks did not tell anyone they were robbing the place)

               Once they tossed me out, Barry Gold got SOLE control of the company - after I forced all the buyers to pay $45 million (when they had bragged they were only going to pay $3 million). Then, Paul Traub, MNAT, Barry Gold also got the courts permission to DESTROY Books n Records
      http://petters-fraud.com/...

            Now - they would have gotten away with all of that. Had I taken the bribe and went along. INSTEAD, it took me several years to find the Smoking Gun proof that forced them to confess.

            Meanwhile, they designed the end of eToys to be sold to Bain KB and reduced the prices ILLEGALLY = Because eToys is their client and Bain is their client. They had to quit eToys - but continued to LIE under oath 34 times.

            To this day - they have NOT confessed that they are lying about their connections to each other and BAIN.

            Bain gives Romney millions each year - Confessed.

            MNAT and Paul Traub CONFESSEd they lied and it wound up in the Wall Street Journal.
      http://petters-fraud.com/...

             MNAT now openly works for Bain and Paul Traub was partners with other Ponzi Schemers (Marc Dreier and Tom Petters)

             They gave you Newt's King of Bain as a PLOT & PLOY to obfuscate the issues of Bain.

             At the barest of minimums, President Obama can call out Mitt the pitts on these issue and demand he give back the money that Romney has benefited from Fraud.

             Or - are we going to look for monies Off Shore in Bermuda (Sankaty that worked Stage Stores bankruptcy too) - instead of the cases that can get Goldman Sachs, Bain and maybe even Mitt Romney indicted tomorrow.

           Because THEY are lying in telling you - Over and Over - that Mitt Romney left Bain in 1999 - even McCain's 200 page report denotes that Romney was still CEO in 2001

       The very year the crimes transpired in eToys.

      The VERY same year that an MNAT PARTNER became the United States Attorney in Delaware (Colm Connolly) who refused to investigate and prosecute this case from 2001 to 2008.
      http://www.justice.gov/...

             Everyone is looking for a match

       and the whole forest is blazing on fire with the evidence

                       ALL PUBLIC DOCKET RECORDS

      PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

      by laserhaas on Fri Apr 27, 2012 at 03:34:12 PM PDT

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  •  Where are the returns? (0+ / 0-)

    Does anyone have a link?

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