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       People are fickle, imperfect, strong & weak, among many other traits. We eat, sleep, live, work, play, suffer and battle every single day. Succinctly - we are human. In being human, all our live's are filled with moments. Some precious. Some sad. Some wasted and some great. The Occupy movement is a great thing and I am proud to consider myself and Occupier.

                                         Welcome to Occupying with Laser!

       What you are going to find her is a place for all. A realm where you can speak your mind - as long as you are C I V I L. This is a place for the good, the bad, the beautiful, those that have not realized how beautiful they are and - most importantly - the down trodden, abused and rejected. For I am the one of you all and welcome all of you. There are none to be shun here, even Mr. B and his ilk who despise and loathe me. For the only way that we can make a change - is thru examples and willingness to do so.

                  Thus far I've been to 17 Occupy camps since October 2011.

        At OccupyLA (Los Angeles) - we had wonderful experiences. As you can see by the picture I am big, ugly and can't marker draw too. Be that as it may, I made many friends - including an attorney who quit his elected position and joined us (see Pete's website www.OccupyTheRoseParade.org ). Also a Cornell student took a semester off to teach us daily history classes on the Constitution. Including the fact that our American Revolutionary War win did not "immediately" lead to the frame / form of the Constitution fo the United States. I learned that history is pop culture (it was Israel Bissell - not Paul Revere who did the great ride) and that

                                               "Change takes time".


WELCOME to ALL


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       A wonderful FaceBook friend of mine is Ashley. Every time I get solemn, I can go say hi to her and get a smile, open arms and a warmth upon my soul that no evil can tear asunder. Even the unlikeable Laser Haas - finds friends here and there.

       While OccupyWS has been at it for several months, I've been at the learning my new career for several years. Occupying has been my life - it just most recently has become defined.

Such as;
        As a jew I moved into a Lebanese house of one who hates just about everybody. As a by product, after his jewish wifes death - his jewish son's stole his wife's estate - because he played games to keep assets hidden from his previous marriages.

         Yes, Mr. "x" is a bad guy of bad moral fiber who raised bad sons. But, the greater evil was two yiddish boys who took $1.5 million from their dad who worked 80 hours a week - every chance he had - providing them the very home for 30 years (since their birth) - they sought to steal. My yiddish friends said he deserved it. Evil is not a justification for evil. If so, we have the right to shot GZ and I have the right to shoot those corrupting our federal courts.

          What I did was, moved in, slept on his floor and gave him 2000 hours of research on probate issues (such as we learned in California - the surviving spouse has 60 days to get their affairs in order - the kids thru their dad out of his own has right after they buried their mom). It was not a pleasant time for me. He was a pig, inconsiderate and owes me $10,000 I will never see - for helping him.

           However, what did transpire, is the fact that he was evicted when I moved in and our combined efforts aggravated his sons for over a year. They eventually won their stolen house - because their dad tells so many lies - he can't remember them all. Even though we were able to get permanent restraining orders for physical abuse, financial abuse and mental abuse - the sons never confessed to their acts of perjury (obvious) - but their father did.

         

NOTE:    All are welcome here - especially the disheartened and down trodden!

         What I am trying to say is 3 things. You may not like everyone you are fighting for or with. You may be well aware that you are going to lose in the end. Or that no matter which side wins - even your own - you have to face the fact you helped an asshole. Be that as it may - if we stand still and let evil transpire - we are giving our blessing to that evil.  == This is inexplicable, intolerable and deterimental to us All.

                 Thus, I say "Enter all ye who are weary and heavy ladden".

        For the case above, I can give you dozens of others that I worked on (and am working on) - that have more nobility around. Like the 87 year old jewish woman Adriana - who is real mean - because the world has been mean to her. She survived a German invasion of her home town, by laying with her son, down in the bulk of dead bodies.
        Now, her step-son too, felt she did not deserve the probate estate of her husband. So he rolled her dying husband into Bank of America and signed his mother off the account. The BofA person has since quit.
        She lost her Social Security of decades as he gambled it away with lose living. She had cancer 4 times now and is a fighter heart warming. Though I was homeless, I did what I could to help her. Taking her to shavitz, Hi Holidays with borrowed vehicles and got her into a good home - when every single "system" just wanted her to pass away.


You are Noble and Can do Noble Deeds


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        I invite you to come here and find a quest, goal, effort of goodness. Seek that which is good within you and those around you. There are enough people in this world happy to see evil and be a mob upon the down trodden.
       My mother was a welfare mom with 5 kids who also was a bar maid to make ends meet. Not only was I on the wrong side of the tracks because of that (and the rough side of jokes too).
        She was a beautiful women, dating Frank's friends and even Robert Goulet. She married a 17 year old when I was 12 and a 19 year old when I was 17 (thus the jokes of me being the son of my brother were vast in schools).  As we moved from town to town, 20 times in my 1st 10 years, as well as State to State - I was ALWAYS on the bottom of the social ladder.
       I was picked on, sexually abused, pee'd on, beat on and always upon the bottom of the ladder.  But, we became wonderful mother and son, before she passed away. When she awoke from her cancer coma - the very 1st thing she did when she could not even speak - was reach her hand out to my physical problem and touch it. Worried I had cancer too - shaking her finger - telling me (silently) not to go through the treatments. Right now, my tears of joy in love are hard to withhold.

         If, but for no other reason, you can come here and know there is someone that does not consider himself above you. The said I was dumb, retarted in school - if my teachers could see me now - they would be ashamed. We lose so much goodness, to bias, unnecessary disdain of others.

          It is a Noble quest to OCCUPY. For we are fighting tyranny, cronyism and corruption. Only those who delight in evil - desire that such evil traits/ characters succeed. Anyone who desires to fight such - is good in my book. I may not agree with you often. For I am outspoken. But I will NEVER reject you - unless you are doing evil. I believe in the goodness of men & women - even my EX.

            So come here and see. If you feel comfort with doing so - you may also speak or say - what is on your mind. But you MUST be civil. I almost never give out donuts and expect that to be the norm here TOO. Our enemies are enough already - that we do not have to become enemies of each other. Treat each other as newbies who have NO idea what they are doing and help them see the light. Be fair and kind to your fellow man and women - knowing you can come here and expect them to be fair and kind to you. I am going to journey around this country to Occupy camps and you are invited to follow along. We can do great things - TOGETHER.


CONCLUSION


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         If you do not write like a pro - that is okay. As you may have noticed - neither do I. Do you need techy help. We will try to learn together. Are you wishing, planning - hoping to Occupy. Then please, by all means, Let US KNOW. Together we can make a differnce. This Diary from Saturday April 28, 2012 - by a new person I intend to follow much (fellow kossack "Lenny Flank"). Lenny has great ideas on how to take Occupy to the next level and won me over with this Diary "Occupy 2.0: a proposed new strategy". It is a wonderful excerise in verbal literacy on what Occupy needs to do to thrive and make a better impact. I suggest a read - it is not that long - but absolutely awesome.

        Finally, Occupy May Day is upon us. It is a "mayday" distress call to Unite, show we are still here, still strong and to get prepared for battling the 1%'r Mitt the pitts Too. I say Welcome 1 more time and I leave you with this YouTube video by ClassWarFilms as placed upon Pete's "Occupy The Rose Parade" website. The ending still makes my heart warm and my tears well up with passion each time I view the Marine's remarks on honorable fights.

         

Originally posted to Occupying with Laser on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 01:45 PM PDT.

Also republished by Occupy Wall Street.

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  •  Tip Jar (9+ / 0-)

    PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

    by laserhaas on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 01:45:17 PM PDT

  •  Thanks for your activism laserhaas... (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Avila, laserhaas

    and your noble deeds. Thanks for the inspiration, the leadership and the diary. Solidarity brother.

  •  Occupy is certainly like the elephant to blind men (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Avila, laserhaas, joe wobblie

    who feel their part of it and think it one thing or another. I have enjoyed occupy. I haven't been able to be a camper so I have figured out other ways to enjoy it. I worked with FDL and got my folks warm clothes. I bought socks and meds and brought them things like plastic chairs that I had around the house. I brought food and took the cook to farmer's market one day to let her pick out food.

    None of that is part of the nitty gritty of what goes into a long drawn out campaign, but I figure folks like me were needed anyway.

    Now my camp is gone. The protest has morphed into the move on thing of Spring99. So I went on a tax day protest and intend to go on another protest 5/1.

    Again, this won't make a lot of difference to the ptb. NOTHING will make a difference unless the 5/1 day passes and people don't buy diddly during that day. THEN and ONLY THEN will the ptb feel our power.

    Congress is at 9% approval rating - within the +/- of making herpes more popular than congress! - Webranding

    by glitterscale on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 02:54:00 PM PDT

  •  no idea (1+ / 0-)
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    laserhaas

    who this Mr. B character is, but if someone doesn't take the time to get to know you, that person is poorer because of it.  i appreciate your kindness and humor and enthusiasm, Laser.  

    typing with cast not easy but i think you deserve much more credit than you get here - people who shun you have NO idea what they're missing.

    •  It is okay Avila - each one of you - makes up for (1+ / 0-)
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      Avila

      thousands of "them"s.

      You are too sweet and kind.

      PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

      by laserhaas on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 03:30:15 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  By the way. Mr. B just needs to be reminded of (0+ / 1-)
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      Mariken

      what is more important.

      I am almost certain that he is getting huge pressure to shut me down. (I believe he is from the Philly area)

      He needs to understand that protecting (circling the wagons) around his neighbors is not so bright a move

      when they are stealing the entire country.

      PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

      by laserhaas on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 03:34:35 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  hmm . . . (1+ / 0-)
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        laserhaas

        cuidate, take care.  if i can help, please let me know.

      •  Evidence? (3+ / 0-)
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        Adam B, Avila, VClib
        I am almost certain that he is getting huge pressure to shut me down.
        Pressure from whom? What does "shut me down" mean? Is everyone from the Philly area equally suspect, or is it just Adam?
      •  False, defamatory, HRable. (3+ / 0-)
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        Avila, Mariken, VClib

        Such personal attacks are completely HRable on this site and have no place here.  

        I occasionally engage in your diaries, Mr. Haas, because it's worth clarifying for other members of the community just how substance-free your allegations are, and that they've already been rejected by federal courts both in original actions and appeals.  I have no personal stake in doing so. None.

        •  It is not false and Again - you call for HR's (0+ / 0-)

          as you have done Many times before.

          You make NO susbstance on your "substance" free claims.

          The Police and DA originally rejected arresting George Zimmerman too.

          The difference is 2 million people got behind Trayvon's case (including ME from the beginning)

          By the time I have 2 million behind me - that YOU could make happen all by yourself.

          IT May be Too Late!

          If you have NO Stake in this whatsoever.
          Then accept the challenge or leave me alone.
          But stop calling for people to Donut me and barking CT's to make people scared and stay quiet on this Nationally Significant issue.

          We Occupy because of the "color of law" - arbitrary & capricious 'My Might Makes RIGHT" playbook of people like you.

          Here is a simple FACT.

          Is the fact that Colm Connolly as United States Attorney - coming from MNAT and Refusing to investigate/ prosecute MNAT - though they Confessed to Lying Under Oath

          IMPORTANT?

          YES or NO?

          Dodge the question or Answer the question.

          If you DODGE you SHOW your BAD FAITH.

          IF you ANSWER the question TRUTHFULLY.

          You show my good faith.

          Which is Absolutely TOO much beyond your character to do.

          PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

          by laserhaas on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 05:32:18 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  I have no idea. (3+ / 0-)
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            Avila, laserhaas, VClib

            It's clearly important to you.

            Please stop questioning my integrity. I've never questioned yours.

            •  Bull crapy B - you call me a CT, HR able OFTEN (1+ / 0-)
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              joe wobblie

              I don't question your integrity

              I QUESTION your motives for inane allegations
              and defending the nefarious hordes.

              You are WELCOMED here and encouraged to speak your mind
              BUT
              You are never permitted to attempt to slay me and defend my enemies with your rhetoric, banter, hyperbole, conjecture, haughtier or hubris.

              Just because you are of great influence and powerful
              Does Not scare me or blast me into submission

              When you threw down the guantlet and attacked me
              you took of the gloves and demand I keep mine on.
              I can understand why - being that you obviously can't handle the truth - but that does NOT mean I concur.

              Take the "mock trial" deal or don't - but if you continue to bash me, call me CT (an utterly false and RIGHT wing type tool to defame)

              THen I will Continue To battle with you.

              Especially being that Traub, Romney, Bain, Goldman Sachs and MNAT are too scared to face me in open court

              this open realm of public opinion will have to do.

              PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

              by laserhaas on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 01:17:23 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  Yes. I question your arguments. (2+ / 0-)
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                laserhaas, VClib

                I do not question why you're making them. It's the latter which makes any commenter HR-able.

                •  You don't just question. You allege it is CT and (1+ / 0-)
                  Recommended by:
                  joe wobblie

                  lies.

                  Without providing proof.

                  You just say - they ruled against you
                  it is over

                  IN RE HAZEL ATLAS GLASS

                  Lies by attorneys as Officers of the Court
                  NEVER makes it OVER

                  You are bogus in contentions, obfuscative, incongruous and a very poor excuse as a debate person who avoids the FACTS at all costs.

                  1 by 1 - I will now give them to you and this realm.
                  In a manner that you can Never challenge again.

                  YOu want a battle and have chosen a side by being snide.

                  You've got ONE!

                  PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

                  by laserhaas on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 05:29:52 AM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

                  •  Um, I hate to break it to you ... (1+ / 0-)
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                    VClib

                    ... The Hazel Glass decision has long been supplanted by Fed. R. Civ. P. 60(b), which sets a one-year limit on relieving a final judgment obtained via fraud.

                    •  HA Ha --- EAANNNTTT --- what does the Loser (1+ / 0-)
                      Recommended by:
                      joe wobblie

                      Get - now that we

                      KNOW he has the Wrong Legal know NoT's?

                      This is why you could NOT do a mock tria with me.
                      The truth of our Wonderful Law's would stomp all over you.

                      Nice try though.

                      Both FRCP 60(b) and In re Hazel Atlas were quoted in my case. By the Very OPINION you cited as the reason that I lost and it is over as well as the United States Trustee in the Motion to Disgorge Traub, Bonacquist & Fox for $1.6 Million Dollars. (cause he did a No NO too).

                      I understand you can't go to THIS D and find fault. It only denotes the facts - without my commentary. Facts that are STRONG against Bain, Goldman Sachs, MNAT, Paul Traub and the Dept of Justice (those you seek so inexplicably to assist)

                      But you don't go by facts. Just allegations - so you did not read page 15 of the very brief you cited - COUNSELOR.
                      http://www.deb.uscourts.gov/...

                      On page 15 it quotes FRCP 60(b) and then States the Following after citing In re Hazel Atlas Glass and a QUAINTLY apropos case named Benjamin's-Arnold (Hint-HINT) as then Chief Justice Mary F Walrath stated;

                      Benjamin’s-Arnold, 1997 WL 86463, at *10 (holding that

                      "the failure of an attorney employed by the estate to disclose a disqualifying conflict of interest, whether intentional or not, constitutes  sufficient ‘extraordinary circumstances’ to justify relief under Rule 60(b)(6). To hold otherwise would only serve to penalize the [Plaintiff] for delay that was beyond his control and to reward conflicted attorneys for failing to disclose their conflicts beyond the one-year period.”
                      Justice Walrath denotes the Southmark case that opened up an issue after 3 years and In re Hazel Atlas was the US Supreme Court re-opening a closed case after 9 years.

                      In case you have NOT noticed the eToys case is STILL Open and the  [former] Chief Justice - like you mon dieu - is ignoring her own cites.

                      For she IS rewarding conflicted attorneys and punishing this plaintiff.

                      PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

                      by laserhaas on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 09:34:19 AM PDT

                      [ Parent ]

                      •  You're still missing something (2+ / 0-)
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                        laserhaas, VClib

                        The duration of the fraud on the court only tolls the one year until the fraud is discovered; you don't have an infinite time thereafter to move.

                        •  No Adam B - you are Missing Facts in Evidence (1+ / 0-)
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                          joe wobblie

                          Fraud on the Court - BY - Officers of the Court
                          has NO Statute of limitations.

                          FRCP 60(b)6 Covers Intrinsic and Extrinsic Frauds between parties. If it were Laser Haas v the person Paul Traub or persons at MNAT or Bain. That is governed by FRAP 60(b)

                          The fraud proofs were NOT discovered for 4 years. They continued to lie until that date about Traub's connections to Barry Gold and MNAT's connections to Goldman Sachs. Those issues were addressed = FOUR Years after the fact = Because we did not discover the proofs of our suspicions until the fall of 2004. (When the Dept of Justice made a faux pas slip of the tongue - giving me the pathway to the quintessential Smoking GUN).

                          However, since that time, despite the fact that my contracts - Signed by the Chief Justice - guarantee's my attorney fees; all my attorneys abandoned me

                          Speciously AFTER the bad faith parties confessed to LYING Under Oath.

                          Since that time, I have gathered proof of 100 more crimes.

                          The judge says I do not have her permission to inform her about fraud on the court - because my attorneys left me and no other attorney cares to take on the corruption - even when payment is certified by a Chief Justice's signature.

                          The point you are missing is that Fraud on the Court, by Officers of the Court - has NO Statute of Limitations

                          and Paul Traub has CONFESSED to Intentionally Lying to the Court -

                          I have proof of fraud on the court
                          and money in the millions sitting in the estate after 11 years

                          But - only counsels such as you - that would rather circle the wagons and defend the bad faith

                          Instead of seeing Justice DONE and getting paid to do so.

                          PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

                          by laserhaas on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 11:01:35 AM PDT

                          [ Parent ]

                          •  That's correct (1+ / 0-)
                            Recommended by:
                            VClib

                            A corporation must be represented by counsel in court.

                          •  As usual YOU obfuscate. Demonstrating your (1+ / 0-)
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                            joe wobblie

                            heart felt desire to avoid the facts.

                            You are attacking the one man who can help bring down the Romney POTUS run

                            and you Dodge, Dodge, Dodge

                            Why?

                            PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

                            by laserhaas on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 11:58:17 AM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  BTW - Does one HAVE to be a Corp in order (1+ / 0-)
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                            joe wobblie

                            to point out Fraud?

                            Does a person really even have to be even remotely connected to a case - to point out that crimes are transpiring?

                            PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

                            by laserhaas on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 12:03:52 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  And Here's Your Sign - as in DUH, I had no (1+ / 0-)
                            Recommended by:
                            joe wobblie

                            idea'r that Mr. B would not swallow the bait on this one.

                            So, as you state

                            If you see someone robbing the bank - unless you have money in that bank - you don't have "Standing" to report the crime.

                            Another brilliant, highly educated, legalese Retort.

                            Genius!

                            PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

                            by laserhaas on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 01:08:06 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  Wrong. (2+ / 0-)
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                            laserhaas, VClib

                            You are free to report the crime to authorities, but you cannot yourself sue because you have nothing to recover.

                          •  Wrong again Sir. I do have standing By Court (0+ / 0-)

                            Order - it is "Color of Law" to infer that I do Not;

                            As per my court approved contracts - ¶10 Indemification

                            In regard to performance under this Amendment Agreement, each party shall defend, indemnify and hold harmless the other party, and the other party's directors, officers, employees and agents, from and against any and all claims, suits, damages, losses, liabilities, obligations, fines, penalties, judgements, costs and expenses, including reasonable attorneys' fees and disbursements, arising out of or relating to: (i) the death or personal injury of any person resulting from the negligence or willful misconduct of itself, its employees, agents or contractors (or their employees, agents or contractors; (ii) the loss of or damage to any property resulting from the negligence or willful misconduct of itself, its employees, agents or contractors (or their employees, agents or contractors); or (iii) the material breach of this Amendment Agreement by such party or its employees, agents or contractors (or their employees, agents or contractors).
                            Now, let us await your arguments on how their confessing to being conflicted, lying about it and stiffing me is neither negligence - willful misconduct

                            much less the LOSS to the Debtor's estate for selling out their court approved client to their (secret) Undisclosed client Bain/ Kay Bee.

                            PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

                            by laserhaas on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 01:44:02 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  I have no idea what the hell you mean. (2+ / 0-)
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                            laserhaas, VClib

                            Indemnity between contracting parties has nothing to do what what you were previously discussing.

                          •  It has everything to do with it. They broke the (0+ / 0-)

                            law , lied under oath for years - 34 times

                            and now you argue that THEY - those who confessed to crimes of intentional fraud on the court

                            have the right to keep me out of court
                            because they insisted that I use my company
                            and the Court approved MNAT to put my paperwork in

                            and, of course, MNAT REFUSED

                            Al Capone can rob a bank, have Frank Nitti as the "authority" - who gives Al Capone immunity
                            when he confess he lied to the court to get $10 million
                            including $3.7 million they stole from ME.

                            What you are saying _ He who has no idea what the hell I mean

                            Is that those who steal can keep the witness/ victim out of court and keep the victims money too

                            Again - another brilliant, highly educated, babble of Bull

                            GENIUS.

                            PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

                            by laserhaas on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 01:57:22 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  I'm done. (2+ / 0-)
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                            laserhaas, VClib

                            I have no idea what you're discussing.

                          •  You were done and cooked the moment you (0+ / 0-)

                            tried to fight for the bad guys rights to oppress justice.

                            PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

                            by laserhaas on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 02:17:17 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  If the "authorities" looked at the crimes and (0+ / 0-)

                            stopped Expunging the Evidence

                            We wouldn't be having this conversation.

                            Even when I reported their other $100 million fraud in the Kay Bee Toys case (DE Bankr 04-10120)

                            Where I asked for NOTHING - not even a 503(b) claim

                            The WATCHDOGS who we are supposed to trust to put a stop to this massive frauds and larceny

                            had the Affidavit of the CHAIRMAN of the Creditors Committee Stricken & Expunged from the record.

                            http://petters-fraud.com/...

                            Your argument that I should just leave things be - is OK in a legitimate world.
                            When those who swear an oath to uphold the law - Violate such - Breaching their Fiduciary Duty and betray their Oath of Office for Bain and Goldman Sachs sake.

                            There is NO LAW!

                            PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

                            by laserhaas on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 01:51:51 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  I think it is REAL Cute - how I show you (1+ / 0-)
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                            joe wobblie

                            the error of your banter on the Hazel Atlas Precedent

                            and you don't even have the dignity enough to concede.

                            You continuously prove the point
                            by your dodgeful - negative notice.

                            PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

                            by laserhaas on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 12:02:50 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                •  By the way - Woe is the Day - (1+ / 0-)
                  Recommended by:
                  joe wobblie

                  when I accept your logic as valid

                  And the Law NO Longer Applies!

                  PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

                  by laserhaas on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 11:03:31 AM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

          •  civility (1+ / 0-)
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            laserhaas

            i don't know the history, or the reason for this disagreement, but that said, judgments about AB's character and questioning the spirit or intent (faith) of same are unfounded, and are not civil.  

            i have known AdamB for years, and have never questioned his integrity.  i've known him to be honest and reasonable.  it is not reasonable to assume ulterior motives, ill will or malignant intent based on disagreement.  as Adam is the attorney for the site, i believe he sets higher standards of fairness for himself than any other user.

            that said, i don't want to interject myself into a dispute i haven't followed.  if you truly believe you're right on the substance of an issue i can't follow, it's essential to argue on facts.  

            your account of the family dynamics and abuse and bullying would make you a powerful voice as an advocate.  that, to me, would be a much bigger priority than continuing a personal disagreement that diminishes your voice.  just something to consider.

            •  My choice is too ignore him when he does ill (0+ / 0-)

              will to me.

              That is rude and bad form.

              My questioning his motives is because he accuses me of making crap up - when I've lived this case for a decade plus and THEY are breaking the law to steal my money and keep it.

              On such I cannot and WillNot be silent.

              He is not being truthful - when he alleges that I am CT, or my facts or bogus and is especially of bad form - when he calls upon others to donut me.

              As one with the integrity you speak of
              he is guilty of extreme Bad Form!

              I am willing to let it go - if he is.

              PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

              by laserhaas on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 10:12:13 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

    •  Mr. B is Adam B, whom you follow, so (1+ / 0-)
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      laserhaas

      I presume you know who he is. This diary appears to be an effort to curry favor with kneejerk Occupy fans so as to forestall or offset the criticism the diarist rightly deserves from his incoherent, defamatory attacks on many parties, including Adam.

      Link

      As you will see in multiple comments in that diary, it is the diarist's hope or belief that Adam B will be fired by Daily Kos. Given that quest, you might reconsider saddling up with Quixote. While enthusiastic, there's nothing kind or humorous about this diarist's behavior.

      Just a friendly suggestion -- your allegiances are up to you, of course.

      •  The evidence IS - that everyone that follows along (0+ / 0-)

        in his behalf, always, "speciously" - seems to have a huge lack of Diary's, rec's etc

        like you do

        http://www.dailykos.com/...

        or VC's 42 total rec's
        yet a total of 76,000 + comment ratings
        http://www.dailykos.com/...

        or MS's giving me a donut on behalf of B
        while she has
        Zero Diaries, Zero recommends with 5100 comment rates
        since 2005
        http://www.dailykos.com/...

        While he barks at my fact publishing and refuses to discuss fact by fact basis.

        This is EXACTLY why we have to Occupy
        Because the playbook is attack a person
        Destroy his chance of being supported
        Kill his message by destroying the messenger.

        A "RIGHT" way to play
        for all the WRONG reasons!

        PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

        by laserhaas on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 04:47:07 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  And this is evidence of what? n/t (1+ / 0-)
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          AaronInSanDiego
          •  That those that go along with Mr. B - in the (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            joe wobblie

            assault of Laser Haas

            have no history of note here on DK

            Other than finding fault with moi.

            While AVOIDING fact specifics on the case you all so happily trounce upon.

            Those things and the truth of my case - speaks volumes of evidence against YOU's

            There needs to be a meeting and you all to find a better strategy. This one only helps prove my point!

            PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

            by laserhaas on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 05:17:57 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  your point is far from proven. (1+ / 0-)
              Recommended by:
              laserhaas

              Sorry but you come across sounding a bit paranoid. But then, I've written no diaries either, so I guess I must be part of this conspiracy.

              "Okay, until next time. Keep sending me your questions, and I will make fun of you... I mean, answer them." - Strong Bad

              by AaronInSanDiego on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 09:57:43 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  HA - I am only pointing out facts. That those who (0+ / 0-)

                jump on my case with Mr. B

                Lack amount of D's and total recommends.

                Thus, we have to do extensive research outside the simple look at the profile - to find out where the person is coming from.

                My point is made by fact specific research
                Way more than Mr. B and his band of mini mob'ees lying and stating my allegations are CT, donut worthy (inciting)
                as well as concluded because crooked people are letting crooks keep monies they stole from me and my company.

                They, nor have you - do not argue fact specifics in a genuine manner.

                PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

                by laserhaas on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 10:18:05 PM PDT

                [ Parent ]

      •  Lots of Laugh's Har Har. Again another bogus (0+ / 0-)

        contention.

        Will you guys, gals and mini mob'ees stop being so full of bull?

        He comes to my D's - my house and says my writings of facts against our enemy (at least my enemy)
        Mitt Romney/ Bain and Goldman Sachs

        and says my reports of a federal case is a
        "reprehensible diary"

        Give evidence of your disingenious contention that

        Mr. B is Adam B, whom you follow,
        I've given him the challenge

        Accept or say no. All that is happening by you and his doing this - is destroying a good place of honor, intellect and free thinking discussion by veiled agendas.

        Stick with the facts please.

        PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

        by laserhaas on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 04:54:20 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Evidence: (1+ / 0-)
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          laserhaas

          Avila's profile

          As of this moment, Avila is following Adam B. I won't bother with a screenshot.

          I don't know what "disingenious" means, but I'm pretty sure that truthfully stating one kossack is following another is not it. That's a fact I'll stick to, thanks.

          •  Watch it Villa - Avilia did not know -as was my (0+ / 0-)

            plan to all - who Adam B is.

            We all follow many people.

            If you meant Avila - you should have said Avila

            and you make allegations without substance.
            This is Ebol!

            I've gone on the record asking B to BACK OFF of his false contentions and as a head hauncho here - calling on my stuff as CT and seeking donuts.

            He - as do you - do NOT address the Facts.

            Neither do You!

            PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

            by laserhaas on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 05:14:59 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

      •  as it happens, Villanova (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Villanova Rhodes, laserhaas

        i know several Misters B.  

        here at Daily Kos, among the people whose posts i follow, there are two or three Misters B, but i didn't assume the diarist was referring to any of the writers i follow.  that never even crossed my mind.

        i've been away for most of the past week, and knew nothing whatsoever about any disagreement between the diarist and AdamB until just now, from your comment.  

  •  Hey, - ONLY if you wish. Our great Adam B is (0+ / 0-)

    confused and is often battling with me in my Diary yesterday.

    He is kicking his own butt for me - but there is a bigger issue at stake. The POTUS.

    I've challenged him that I will never - EVER - mention Bain/ eToys again on DailyKos

    If he will hold a mock trial with me.

    I need volunters to be my 6 jurors
    and asked him to pick 6.

    Which means we will most likely never get a unanimous decision

    But  - especially in the interest of bringing down Mitt Romney  with letigimacy -

    It will make for wonderful reading (and may even boost membership)

    So if you know of anyone willing to help me and Adam B do a mock trial battle on Mitt Romney - please go here and ask him when the "mock" trial will begin?

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

    by laserhaas on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 03:28:58 PM PDT

  •  Thanks for the Repub - Mr. III.... (0+ / 0-)

    Appreciate it much....

    PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

    by laserhaas on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 04:02:00 PM PDT

  •  I don't understand your diary (0+ / 0-)

    but maybe that's for the best.

    "Okay, until next time. Keep sending me your questions, and I will make fun of you... I mean, answer them." - Strong Bad

    by AaronInSanDiego on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 06:43:07 PM PDT

  •  Transcript of that video (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    laserhaas

    if anyone is interested:

    Let Your Life Be a Friction to Stop the Machine
    Transcript

    The video was also posted and heavily commented upon at CommonDreams

    Resistance Is Fertile - Occupy

    by Sean X on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 10:07:16 PM PDT

  •  Anti-Authoritarians, Please Note... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    laserhaas

    Would We Have Drugged Up Einstein? ...How Anti-Authoritarianism Is Deemed a Mental Health Problem
     

    In my career as a psychologist, I have talked with hundreds of people previously diagnosed by other professionals with oppositional defiant disorder, attention deficit hyperactive disorder, anxiety disorder and other psychiatric illnesses, and I am struck by 1) how many of those diagnosed are essentially anti-authoritarians; and 2) how those professionals who have diagnosed them are not.  

    Anti-authoritarians question whether an authority is a legitimate one before taking that authority seriously. Evaluating the legitimacy of authorities includes assessing whether or not authorities actually know what they are talking about, are honest, and care about those people who are respecting their authority. And when anti-authoritarians assess an authority to be illegitimate, they challenge and resist that authority—sometimes aggressively and sometimes passive-aggressively, sometimes wisely and sometimes not.  

    more

    Resistance Is Fertile - Occupy

    by Sean X on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 10:17:06 PM PDT

    •  Fantastic information Sean X. You have given me (0+ / 0-)

      the substance of the next D in this series.

      If you question authority and abuse of power
      You are labeled as abnormal - uncontrollable.

      That is what Occupy is about.

      Not being Sheep to the slaughter - simply because THEY say it shall be so!

      Thanks again

      PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

      by laserhaas on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 10:29:43 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  BTW - (LOL) - according to the banter above (0+ / 0-)

      I'm suppose to attack you right now.

      You are a newbie with no diary history.

      The thing that sets you apart
      is you have not alleged I'm lying
      or a CT person worthy of donuts.

      That is the qualifier of Bad Form - that if they dropped such - we would not be engaged in banter unproductive.

      PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

      by laserhaas on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 10:31:45 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  HEY - FANTASTIC NEWS - Clippers were down (0+ / 0-)

    95 to 71

    and call after ref call - was going against them

    They are now 96 to 94 with Clip's down two

    now 96 -95 down 1 point

    PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

    by laserhaas on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 11:34:05 PM PDT

  •  Now Clippers up by 1 - FANTASTIC (0+ / 0-)

    PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

    by laserhaas on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 11:34:54 PM PDT

  •  The POLL voting above Does Not Bode Well (0+ / 0-)

    for this "Progressive" realm

    PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

    by laserhaas on Sun Apr 29, 2012 at 11:38:57 PM PDT

  •  The poll struck me as weird (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    laserhaas

    so I didn't answer.

    The Occupy Movement has lots and lots of leaders and planning. But Occupy is not hierarchical, and the poll, to me, reflects non-acknowledgement of that fact.  

    Maybe it's just me :)

    Resistance Is Fertile - Occupy

    by Sean X on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 02:23:58 AM PDT

    •  My opinion is, we are in a Culture Civil War (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      joe wobblie

      massive.

      We need leaders, Generals, Captains, Lt's and troops.

      We do not need just 1 leader.
      Maybe 10, 50 or 100
      So that they cannot be squashed and thus quash the movement.

      PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

      by laserhaas on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 03:43:14 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  LOOK - Wikipedia's DOJ Thread Link's to Laser (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    joe wobblie

    Haas's website as their link proof/ verification on

    Conflicts of Interest bad faith acts

    At the Dept of Justice Web encyclopedia

    But, they managed to yank down and quash that too.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/...

    PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

    by laserhaas on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 05:06:11 AM PDT

    •  you know that anyone can edit a wikipedia page (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Adam B

      don't you? having a link on wikipedia isn't proof of anything, nor is having that link removed proof that "they" removed it.

      "Okay, until next time. Keep sending me your questions, and I will make fun of you... I mean, answer them." - Strong Bad

      by AaronInSanDiego on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 09:08:40 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Hey, it you KNOW Wikipedia, then you KNOW (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        joe wobblie

        that you can look at the history and see it has been removed before - that when it named me in the link - that was removed too

        and you also make my case for me

        ANYONE can edit Wikipedia

        Even people who remove that fact
        and even people like YOU!

        PLEASE ☺ - Help Stop Mitt the Pitts Romney from Stealing ☻ the POTUS

        by laserhaas on Mon Apr 30, 2012 at 09:36:41 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

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