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The 2012 Democratic National Convention is slated to be held in Charlotte, North Carolina this September.

Given tonight's passage of Amendment 1, I think the DNC needs to rethink its choice.

If the Democrats wish to hold itself out as the party of equality and equal protection under the law, the party that opposes discrimination of any kind, the party that truly fights for ALL families - straight, gay, married, unmarried - if they really want to be the party of progress, then they need to hold the Democratic National Convention in a state that reflects these values.

I, for one, will be calling the DNC tomorrow asking them to rethink the location of the convention in September.  North Carolina should not reap economic benefits while shunning and excluding certain of its citizens from equality and human decency.

Originally posted to Zombie Saguaros on Tue May 08, 2012 at 06:55 PM PDT.

Also republished by Progressive Hippie.

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  •  Tip Jar (24+ / 0-)

    "Only when the last tree has died, the last river has been poisoned, and the last fish has been caught will we realize we cannot eat money." --Cree proverb

    by TigerMom on Tue May 08, 2012 at 06:55:59 PM PDT

  •  It's too late. (10+ / 0-)

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Tue May 08, 2012 at 06:59:52 PM PDT

  •  Agreed, but never going to happen. Staying there (0+ / 0-)

    would obviously send mixed messages, but my assessment is that the incumbent sees political advantage in sending those exact messages in exactly this way at this specific point in time.

    What is there to do.

    There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

    by oldpotsmuggler on Tue May 08, 2012 at 07:01:45 PM PDT

  •  Understand the upset (5+ / 0-)
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    oxfdblue, Delilah, NewDealer, NYFM, PSzymeczek

    but it would be incredibly counterproductive.

    It would likely cost Obama NC, which he could win.

    That might cost him the presidency.

    That would hurt gay marriage.

    No one said the convention shouldn't have gone to a California city that I know of.

    •  It would also cost buckets of $$$ for the DNC... (3+ / 0-)
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      cks175, SoCalSal, PSzymeczek

      ...and likely OFA as well—which would only make the campaign that much more uphill a climb.

      "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

      by JamesGG on Tue May 08, 2012 at 07:09:08 PM PDT

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    •  I'll tell you this honestly (3+ / 0-)
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      as someone who lives in NC...as someone who predicted Obama would take NC in 2008 when everyone on this board told me I was delusional.....

      Obama will not be winning NC in 2012.  Sorry, but that's just the fact of it.

      I still believe, and have been saying for well over a year that Obama will be re-elected.  I don't even think its going to be all that close.  But he's not going to win NC in 2012.  Hell, given a choice only between Obama and "No preference", Obama only got 80%.  That's among Democrats and Indies voting Democratic.  20% of NC Dems essentially gave Obama a vote of No Confidence.  20% of NC Dems essentially said "none of the above" when the only name on the ballot was the sitting President.  NC is lost this cycle.  Holding the Convention here isn't going to save it.

      "Power concedes nothing without a demand; it never has and it never will."—Frederick Douglass

      by costello7 on Tue May 08, 2012 at 10:13:56 PM PDT

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      •  I wish I didn't agree with you (0+ / 0-)

        But I do.  

        I love the OPie's sentiment though.  But then I wanted to boycott Massachusetts after the Brown vote, lol!  I'm good at boycotting (Hell, I've been boycotting Nestle for more than thirty years. . . . ).

        But the peeps who voted for this don't read/think/feel like normals, and those that put the most into the against movement would get hurt.

        Maybe standard convention gear/handouts could include a bag/button/banner saying  I'm Gay and I spend or I support Gays and I spend. . . .  But truth is, I wouldn't wait around for that penny to drop.

        "The world is too dangerous for anything but truth and too small for anything but love." ~~ William Sloane Coffin

        by puddleriver on Thu May 10, 2012 at 08:39:51 AM PDT

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  •  And go where? (6+ / 0-)

    You can not mount a convention of his size just anywhere and certainly not in 3 months.

    I get the sentiment, but reality is sometimes is a bitch.

    Republican Family Values: Using the daughters from your first wife to convince everybody that your second wife is lying about your third wife.

    by jsfox on Tue May 08, 2012 at 07:08:20 PM PDT

  •  Under that logic most of the states in the U.S. (8+ / 0-)

    ...would not qualify to hold the DNC.

    There are now 30 states with similar constitutional amendments, including California, Florida, and Texas.

  •  You what they should do (9+ / 0-)

    Is put in a pro gay marriage plank. Do it the first night of the convention and thumb our noses at the bigots in NC and the other 32 states.

    Republican Family Values: Using the daughters from your first wife to convince everybody that your second wife is lying about your third wife.

    by jsfox on Tue May 08, 2012 at 07:11:39 PM PDT

  •  DNC should leave (4+ / 0-)
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    but barring that, everything else from  NC should be boycotted. Yes, the innocent of NC will be hurt, but the majority who voted for this abomination should not be rewarded for their bigotry.

    I reject your reality and substitute my own - Adam Savage

    by woolibaar on Tue May 08, 2012 at 07:24:43 PM PDT

    •  Or do the opposite... gays should go there for (5+ / 0-)

      vacations, hold conferences there, actively spend dollars there.

      Show the people of North Carolina that the stereotypical image of gays that they've been shown, the flamboyant thong wearing San Francisco  parade boys, are the exception, not the norm.

      When they finally realize that gays are just like them, they will change their  ways.  And they won't get the chance to realize that if we progressives shun them.

  •  I cannot disagree more (8+ / 0-)

    Yes, it's a depiscable vote but that is not the right response.  

    Before we all go trashing North Carolina (and piss off all the Tarheel Kossacks), let's just remember that the following states have voted against same-sex marriage:  Virginia, Florida, Wisconsin, Maine, Michigan, Ohio, Colorado, Nevada, Oregon, Hawaii, and let us not forget California.  If we were to give away those electoral votes, we'd never win again.  

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    by SoCalLiberal on Tue May 08, 2012 at 07:40:23 PM PDT

  •  I guess CA is not an option? (0+ / 0-)

    "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

    by LaurenMonica on Tue May 08, 2012 at 08:53:43 PM PDT

  •  if we refused to hold a convention in any state (4+ / 0-)

    with fucked up laws, we'd be left with a small handful of cities.there's something to be said for taking the fight to the battle front, remember that 40% of north carolinans voted no on one.

  •  Don't judge Charlotte (0+ / 0-)

    by the actions of the entire state and what we need here is an increased presence and not a smaller one. The Obama campaign is dumping millions into the GOTV effort here in NC because it is critical that he win here.

    Charlotte does have a lot of Republicans... but I am friends with the 9th District Chairman - Frank Deaton and the party here supports LGBT rights. Frank told me on the phone not long ago that he wants to see LGBT rights as a national party plank...

    It is important to remember that we are fighting this battle on many fronts... LGBT rights is ONE of those fronts.

  •  cutting off your nose to spite your face or (1+ / 0-)
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    how ever that saying goes.  Do you really think that the people that voted for amendment 1 are going to be sad and crying if the convention is pulled from NC? I am assuming that the reason you would pull the convention is to push NC.  I would guess that almost all the people that voted for amendment 1 will be cheering if the convention was pulled from NC.  They would be slapping each other on the back and congratulating each other on a second victory.  The people you would be punishing are the very people who VOTED against amendment 1.  Now I ask you in all seriousness how fair is that.  Those of us in NC that voted against amendment 1 worked hard to get the votes but some minds can not be changed.  People seem to forget that my great state gave us Jesse Helms who we were never able to get rid of.  I worked on that effort and was foiled every time.  People must remember that NC is changing and change doesn't come over night.  NC continues to have large pockets of rural coastal and mountain citizens who follow the dictates of their country preacher.  There are also many fundamental churches that dot the landscape in the cities and the outlying areas.  The preachers both black and white of these churches made it their mission to preach for amendment 1.  There was even an article in the Charlotte Observer regarding this very fact.

    So punish us if you must but I will say as a child I NEVER liked being punished along with my brother when he was the one at fault.  I don't understand how you can hold me responsible for the dumbness of my follow citizens.  

  •  Unions, gays...who else can the DNC piss off? (0+ / 0-)

    Clearly the choice of N.C. was NOT really thought out well. What was the point again? To try and show 'inclusion' to the Southern states while angering some of your most important backers?

    Another great 'compromise' choice.

    Romney 2012 - My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball. But tonight I say; We must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!

    by Fordmandalay on Wed May 09, 2012 at 07:58:03 AM PDT

  •  Another Way to hit North Carolina Financially (0+ / 0-)

    The DNC would probably lose a huge amount of money if they were to pull out at this date. It would be great if they had enough money to absorb this, but I doubt they do.

    I'm approaching this from a different direction - filmmaking. The Hunger Games, one of this year's biggest movies, was shot in North Carolina. Its sequel, Catching Fire, is due to start shooting later this year, and I think they're planning to shoot in North Carolina, but I don't know if they've signed any contracts yet. I've just started a petition to urge Lionsgate to film Catching Fire in another state. Please, if you think it's time to remind people that gay people and their supporters can make a negative financial impact in North Carolina by taking business to other states, please sign this petition: http://www.change.org/...

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