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More than 230,000 people stopped being eligible for unemployment insurance benefits over the weekend—not because they got jobs, but because the emergency extended benefits program providing their benefits was cut as part of the payroll tax deal earlier this year. The number of weeks of benefits available in states drop as unemployment drops, which hit California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Texas on Saturday.

While "as unemployment drops" may make this sound like good news, consider that California, where 100,000 jobless people will no longer be getting unemployment insurance, has an unemployment rate of 11 percent. Nationally, more than 5 million people have been unemployed for six months or longer, and there are 3.4 job-seekers for every job opening.

That makes things especially hard for people like Jennifer Moss, a divorced mother of three who has been unemployed since October 2010:

Since losing her job, Moss said she’s applied for countless jobs and had maybe 10 job interviews, but nothing has worked out.

“There are many sleepless nights where at 2 or 3 in the morning I might be on a website ... applying for jobs,” said Moss, who is 40.

Living in South Carolina, her last unemployment payment was May 1. A federal mortgage benefit she receives will expire this summer. South Carolina's unemployment rate is 8.9 percent.

Now multiply her story by 409,000, the number of people to lose unemployment benefits since Congress struck its deal, and think too about all the businesses at which those 409,000 people are no longer spending their money.

Originally posted to Daily Kos Labor on Mon May 14, 2012 at 01:03 PM PDT.

Also republished by ClassWarfare Newsletter: WallStreet VS Working Class Global Occupy movement, Progressive Hippie, Unemployment Chronicles, and Daily Kos.

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Comment Preferences

  •  Austerity (8+ / 0-)

    Exactly the anti-stimulus we need.

    "I'll believe that corporations are people when I see Rick Perry execute one."

    by bink on Mon May 14, 2012 at 01:07:20 PM PDT

    •  yes it will really be here if mitty gets in office (0+ / 0-)

      and the crew was on this morning on morning joe they are the worst and a lot of people watch them and that determines how they will vote 2010 told the tale and the have had nothing but misery since if the vote goes  same way this year "russia and china" will have nothing on this country l

  •  So the unemployment statistics are based upon (2+ / 0-)

    this rate?  So as people can no longer get unemployment they go from the U-3 rate to the U-6 category?  

    If this is true, unemployment numbers will drop, which will upset Republicans because people are used to the U-3 numbers being reported and too many take them as gospel so they'll think Obama's employment record will be improving.  Yet people will know that even with unemployment going down, they haven't found work yet and they'll probably get more desparate because now they don't have even the pittance of unemployment to help them along.  So the summer of discontent will become ever more restive, encouraging the throw them all out mentality and Republicans can play on people not understanding (and not hearing) that the Republican House refuses to pass bills to create jobs (at least bills that could get through the Senate and the President).  So the Republicans celebrate.

    At least for the moment I've got Democratic members of Congress as well as a Democratic governor.  Purple Colorado will hopefully return Obama to office, and maybe restore a district or two to blue after the last couple of years.

    •  No. (2+ / 0-)
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      ColoTim, arealniceguy

      "Unemployment drops" is referring to the state unemployment rate; a person's classification for the unemployment rate has nothing to do with getting benefits.

      •  What I'm (inelegantly saying) is does this have (1+ / 0-)
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        arealniceguy

        any affect on the statistics about "new claims for unemployment"?  I thought one of the reasons that number has been falling is because people are exceeding their 99 weeks, and now that they have even less time, suddenly the numbers that this diary is about are going to be dropping from the roles, thereby dropping the number of people applying for unemployment.  I am probably wrong on this, though.

        Thanks in advance.

        •  "new claims for unemployment" (2+ / 0-)
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          ColoTim, arealniceguy

          are people applying for the very first time. There is another measurement that totals all the people on unemployment benefits. As people fall off the unemployment rolls because they have found a job, or exhaust their benefits, that is where the end of these programs would show up in the data.  

          "let's talk about that"

          by VClib on Mon May 14, 2012 at 03:23:11 PM PDT

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          •  Thanks. Perhaps we'll hear numbers this week (1+ / 0-)
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            arealniceguy

            then, on either Thursday or Friday.  The people are going to know, however, that a sharp drop in the number of unemployed doesn't equal that more people have found work.

            •  ColoT - you seem to have missed it (2+ / 0-)
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              arealniceguy, ColoTim

              People exhausting their unemployment benefits have no impact on the "unemployment rate" or what economists refer to as U3. That number comes from a telephone survey and the number of people collecting unemployment benefits is not in any way used to determine the "unemployment rate".

              "let's talk about that"

              by VClib on Mon May 14, 2012 at 06:53:18 PM PDT

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    •  ColoT - they are not connected (2+ / 0-)
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      ColoTim, arealniceguy

      U3 and U6 are based on a monthly telephone survey. It does not matter if someone is receiving unemployment benefits or not. All that matters is how many people in a household are employed and how many are unemployed and actively seeking work. For U6 they ask some additional questions.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Mon May 14, 2012 at 03:19:22 PM PDT

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      •  In theory. However, I would bet at least some (1+ / 0-)
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        Siri

        of the people doing the surveys have drunk the right wing kool-aid and marked people down as "left the labor force" or "discouraged worker" simply because they exhausted their benefits under the theory that if "you haven't found a job in XX weeks then you aren't really looking".  Has anyone done a survey of the people doing the BLS surveys to see how many of them do that?

        There is no saving throw against stupid.

        by Throw The Bums Out on Tue May 15, 2012 at 07:38:02 PM PDT

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  •  Occupy. nt (2+ / 0-)
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    wsexson, arealniceguy

    Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.

    by Horace Boothroyd III on Mon May 14, 2012 at 02:16:57 PM PDT

  •  This was the agreement Dems made... (0+ / 0-)

    ...to preserve the "payroll tax cut" through 2012.

  •  WE NEED REAL STIMULUS (5+ / 0-)

    We need a real stimulus program. Not a throw a few dollars at a few companies and hope the jobs they might could possibly add stick.

    WE Need real STIMULUS!!

    Not more tax cuts for the rich.

    By the way how much would the two plus billion that there biggy bank has lost and is going to continue to lose help as a stimulus?

    Just A Real Nice Guy, thinking out loud.

    by arealniceguy on Mon May 14, 2012 at 08:18:04 PM PDT

  •  cut a stealth bomber (5+ / 0-)

    how come republicans never want to slash big ticket military programs we cannot afford to help actual Americans?

  •  We are still waiting (2+ / 0-)
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    jwinIL14, Brooke In Seattle

    On those green jobs

  •  When peanut butter & jelly become a delicacy, (1+ / 0-)
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    Siri

    it's a problem.

    "Four more years!" (Obama Unencumbered - The Sequel)

    by jwinIL14 on Tue May 15, 2012 at 07:47:32 PM PDT

  •  When Romney's president, (2+ / 0-)
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    Siri, TrueBlueMajority

    we can borrow $20,000 from our parents.

    Voting Republican is a luxury that very few Americans can afford.

    by Says Who on Tue May 15, 2012 at 07:55:03 PM PDT

  •  NOT 'due to cuts' - due to Democratic INCOMPETENCE (0+ / 0-)

    at fighting these lying despicable fascist thieves who want us ALL working as Junk-Mart doormats, boot lickers, ass kissers, catch farts, serfs and cannon fodder.

    Let's stop blaming the fucking fascists for doing what they're supposed to do.

    there are:

    - 100's of 6 figure a year Democratic electeds,
    - 1000's of 6 figure a year staffers doing media and communications and press this or that and public this or that,
    - TENS OF MILLIONS in salaries to these people.

    when the hell is a critical mass of us going to get fed up with sniveling whiny finger wagers, on a good day, and fucking sell outs on most days.

    If the Democrat ain't BETTER, they ain't worth a burger clam shell of shit.

    rmm.

    Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look; He thinks too much: such men are dangerous

    by seabos84 on Tue May 15, 2012 at 07:56:09 PM PDT

    •  I'm not sure that the issue with Democrats (2+ / 0-)
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      Brooke In Seattle, seabos84

      is incompetence. That's the charitable excuse.

      "I wish I could tell you, in the midst of all of this, that President Obama was waging the kind of fight against these draconian Republican proposals that the American people would like to see. He is not." -- Senator Bernie Sanders

      by Sagebrush Bob on Tue May 15, 2012 at 08:06:04 PM PDT

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  •  why don't democrats organize them? (1+ / 0-)
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    Brooke In Seattle

    It seems to me these recently unemployed people who have lost their benefits due to GOP intransigence would be fertile ground for organizing. Not only them but their families too. It seems their data should also be available in the public record.

    America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

    by cacamp on Tue May 15, 2012 at 08:01:13 PM PDT

    •  Recently unemployed? (2+ / 0-)
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      cacamp, Odysseus

      How about those who have been unemployed since before this stupid fiasco started? Those who were never eligible for extended benefits? Or those who never drew benefits in the first place because they were part-timers or in some other way didn't qualify?

      I'm not sure any information in the public records would point to all those who are unemployed, but there are millions who could be organized if anyone cared to try.

      "The difference between the right word and the almost-right word is like the difference between lightning and the lightning bug." -- Mark Twain

      by Brooke In Seattle on Tue May 15, 2012 at 08:28:41 PM PDT

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      •  I agree (0+ / 0-)

        I actually meant those recently out of benefits, but you're correct all together they would seem to be a natural Democratic constituency.

        America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

        by cacamp on Tue May 15, 2012 at 08:51:59 PM PDT

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  •  Yay! (0+ / 0-)

    This means that unemployment has gone down! /snarkity snark

    "I wish I could tell you, in the midst of all of this, that President Obama was waging the kind of fight against these draconian Republican proposals that the American people would like to see. He is not." -- Senator Bernie Sanders

    by Sagebrush Bob on Tue May 15, 2012 at 08:02:16 PM PDT

    •  No, it doesn't. (0+ / 0-)

      The unemployment rate tells you how many people are sending out resumes.  To be counted, you have to be actively looking for work.

      The number of people drawing benefits or not drawing benefits has no part in that calculation.

      -7.75 -4.67

      "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose."

      There are no Christians in foxholes.

      by Odysseus on Tue May 15, 2012 at 09:38:26 PM PDT

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  •  The MIAs of the Unemployed (5+ / 0-)

    What hasn't been addressed and should be is that these people that are unemployed are being met with extreme bias by the hiring community. If you have been unemployed for at least six months, you will be scrutinized negatively by a recruiter. If it's longer than that, you might as well be throwing your resume in the trashcan yourself.

    I was unemployed for over two years with no end in sight. And currently I am working outside my IT field just to try and pay the rent. The damage that has been done to my resume and many others out there is causing many recruiters to thumb their noses at us.

    The other day I saw a job offering for a programmer that said in black and white that they "would only hire those people that were two years out of college or less". I was livid! We are in a jobless world. Where the managers can dictate that we all dance to their tune just to get an interview. We need to reinforce protections for the workers so that they can at least be treated fairly and equally whenever a job is offered today.

    Lately, I have my doubts.

    We the "unemployed" or "underemployed" that have dropped off the statistics are still out there. And the path back to a solid job is getting harder and harder as people put roadblocks like these in our paths. We need a  bill put forward to further encourage managers to hire the unemployed and the underemployed. We are being ignored at the moment. And we won't just go away.

    "I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -- George Carlin, Satirical Comic,(1937-2008)

    by Wynter on Tue May 15, 2012 at 08:03:08 PM PDT

  •  Don't forget the 99ers (3+ / 0-)
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    Brooke In Seattle, Odysseus, MKSinSA

    They've been falling out of the system for a long time. It's the older people that are most affected. Anyone over 45 is having a beastly time finding work never mind work with benefits. With years to go till they're eligible for SS 401ks dwindling or exhausted and the drum beat out to extend the SS lifeline out to an even further horizon.

    48forEastAfrica - Donate to Oxfam "Compassion is the radicalism of our time." ~ Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama -7.88, -6.21

    by Siri on Tue May 15, 2012 at 08:05:12 PM PDT

  •  Chaos Drive People Towards Conservatism (0+ / 0-)

    This is deliberate, because hurting people financially makes them rigid politically.  Maybe not when you are in your 20's but for people with a mortgage they want tings back the way things were, not something different.

    There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

    by bernardpliers on Tue May 15, 2012 at 11:07:18 PM PDT

  •  I am one of the Californians so affected. (0+ / 0-)

    Specifically, California discontinued paying any benefits in the 5th extension (the so-called FED ED extension) as of May 12.

    I am relatively fortunate in that my wife and I had and have some savings and live very frugally. I also have not yet had to touch my IRAs. That will change now if I do not find any work within the next six months.

    I hold the Republicans personally resposible for this, both the financial crisis of 2008 and the cruel and inhumane policies the 2010 Congress has instituted. Couple these UI cuts with planned cuts to food stamp programs for 280,000 children and you have displayed before you a panoply of casual cruelty such as has not been seen since the first Reagan term or the pre-New Deal days.

    •  So... (0+ / 0-)

      you haven't found a job in over 18 months?  Might be time to change careers.......

      •  Thanks for those uplifting words. I actually have (0+ / 0-)

        4 different resumes I send out, each focused around a different skill set. So far interviews but no offers and I've begun to conclude that anyone over 50 is viewed with skepticism by California employers.

        Actually had one employer ask me during an interview how I would feel working with a substantially younger group of employees.

        They can get away with it thanks to comments from people like you.

        Whatever.

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