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Etch a Sketch showing Romney flip-flopping on Jeremiah Wright attacks
Mitt Romney may have come off sounding like a robot, but in his most recent response to this morning's report about Joe Ricketts' plan to inject Jeremiah Wright into the 2012 campaign, he finally repudiated the Republican billionaire's plan:
I repudiate the effort by that PAC to promote an ad strategy of the nature they've described. [...] I think what we've seen so far from the Obama campaign is a campaign of character assassination. [...] I hope that isn't the course of this campaign. So in regards to that PAC, I repudiate what they're thinking about
Sure, Romney couldn't say it without whining about perceived character attacks from Obama's campaign, but he deserves some credit for eventually getting around to taking the high road, right? Well, maybe so ... but not until he repudiates (rather than Etch A Sketches) his own words, delivered in February when he went on the Sean Hannity radio show:
I think again that the president takes his philosophical leanings in this regard, not from those who are ardent believers in various faiths but instead from those who would like America to be more secular. And I’m not sure which is worse, him listening to Reverend Wright or him saying that we must be a less than Christian nation.
Apparently there are two Mitt Romneys: the one who thinks Jeremiah Wright should be off limits ... and the other one who thinks Jeremiah Wright is fair game. And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which Mitt Romney guys like Joe Ricketts will ultimately listen to.

Oh, and by the way, President Obama never said America should be less than Christian. And if Mitt Romney really thinks the best way to learn about President Obama's views about America is to listen to what Jeremiah Wright says ... well, then he should just ask Osama bin Laden.

Originally posted to The Jed Report on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:11 AM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Romney has no core and is phony (18+ / 0-)

    "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

    by LaurenMonica on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:12:50 AM PDT

  •  It's always (30+ / 0-)

    an attempt to blame Obama for what the Republicans do.  In repudiating Ricket's plan of character assassination, he accuses Obama of character assassination.  

    I do not want to live in anation governed by Mitt Romney.  We really must defeat him.

    I'm from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner Wing of the Democratic Party!

    by TomP on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:15:30 AM PDT

  •  Romney has no core (12+ / 0-)

    There's nothing there.  I had him pegged as their nominee from the beginning and I thought he would run a moneyed, efficient and typically country club Republican campaign.  Sort of a more updated GHW Bush.  But he is frighteningly soulless;  his campaign has been riddled with gaffes, probably because his own people don't even know how
     to present this man.  He is a cipher.  

  •  Obama didn't targe BinLaden (5+ / 0-)

    because he was a terrorist, but because he wasn't a secularist.   Obama wasn't being patriotic and defending Americans, he was attacking religion.

    The whole Obama hates America, isn't in tune with American values is racist at its core.  Romney isn't repudiating racists, he needs them.   He is just repudiating overtly racist acts as they will hurt him.  Its always all about Mitt.

  •  I don't know that America should be less Christian (12+ / 0-)

    -- in fact it would be dandy to have a few more people actually following the teaching of Christ.  

    But it should certainly be less Christianist.  

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:25:37 AM PDT

  •  Does the Romney Campaign (13+ / 0-)

    really really want to delve into religious matters? I mean really,   lots of people don't think Mormons are true Christians.  Sauce - meet goose.

    "Conservatives care from conception to crowning." VetGrl " It's just a matter of time before the Republicans realize the Ten Commandments are "regulations."" TriassicSands

    by sailmaker on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:25:58 AM PDT

  •  19th Cent. minds trying to outwit 21st cent tech. (2+ / 0-)
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    The internet never really forgets....

    Doctor Mitt Romney Brain Sturgeon-The Operation was a success but the patient died, where's my fee?

    by JML9999 on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:26:21 AM PDT

  •  Mormons are Not Christians (6+ / 1-)

    It would be nice if the mainstream press realized this.  Mormons are no more Christians than Christians are Jews.  

    Christians believe in the "old testament" but that clearly doesn't make them Jewish.  They believe the Messiah came, and Jews don't.

    Mormons believe Christ has already come back to earth, and Joe Smith was the prophet to announce this.  

    To call Mormons "Christians" is idiotic.  It simply isn't true.

    •  Mormons ARE irrefutably Christians... (2+ / 0-)
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      the church's core theology is based on the premise that after Christ's crucifixion in the Middle East, he then reappeared in North America to the inhabitants to clarify and extend the gospel (according to Mormon theology, the inhabitants Christ reappeared to were lost tribes of Israel who came by boat to the New World).  A central premise of Mormonism is that other branches of Christianity were corrupted in the first century after Christ's death, and that the ancient New World scriptures revealed to Joseph Smith in the golden plates were corrections revealing the true doctrine of Christ.  The technically correct name for the church isn't the "Mormon" church, it's "the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints."  Mormon is an allegedly historical person who was the father of Moroni (who came back as an Angel to reveal the golden plates to Joseph Smith), and not the subject of worship per se.

      Now, I am decidedly NOT a Mormon, nor will I ever be; to me Joseph Smith was a charismatic fraud who successfully sold a preposterous story to lots of gullible people in a difficult economic era in an age where people widely accepted supernatural explanations of events, and it was also a time of general religious "awakening".  (Kind of like the current era, too much like it in fact).  As eccentric and preposterous as many of the premises of Mormonism are to non-Mormons, nevertheless it IS indisputably an enhanced offshoot of Christianity, with Christ still at its center.

      •  When Christ Died...... (0+ / 0-)

        I think the earthquakes and such were supposed to have destroyed the evidence of the other lost tribes that Joseph Smith described but who were never found.

        There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

        by bernardpliers on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:51:33 AM PDT

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      •  It's Religion So There is No Correct Answer (6+ / 0-)

        Mormons call themselves Christians while most Christian faiths say that Mormons are not Christians because they have many beliefs that are not part of other accepted Christian faith. Since this is a religious question which is centered on faith (belief without proof) there can be no correct answer.

        As an Atheist, I will say that the Mormon Church in general makes more uncomfortable then the other large branches of Christianity not due to anything they do or don't believe but because their tactics for recruiting and maintaining membership is similar to those used by cults. Unlike true cults, however, they do not appear to have the acquisition of money and power as their only reason for existence, so I still them a religion.

      •  To paraphrase the birthers, I take them at their (0+ / 0-)

        word, although it is much more difficult to listen to the story and keep from laughing out loud when the supposed revelation of the additional "scripture" took place in historical times and God chose to reveal it to a person of malleable and uncertain scruples.  That said, give it another two thousand years, and it will make as much sense as mainstream Christianity.  

        And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

        by MrJersey on Thu May 17, 2012 at 10:09:29 AM PDT

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      •  So Christians are Jewish? (0+ / 0-)

        After all, they accept the Old Testament.

        Surely you must be able to realize that believing that Joseph Smith, a polygamist and criminal with numerous arrests in the 1820s, is a "Saint" is a violation of every branch of Christianity that exists.

        That would be like if I said I was founding a religion based on Jesus being reborn as a cat in Memphis, (all Hail Jesus Cat!), but since it still had Jesus somewhere in there, I was a Christian.

        It's simply not so.

        No branches of Christianity believe Jesus has returned to earth.  None.  Except Mormonism.  Which is a different religion entirely.

    •  Wrong analogy (2+ / 0-)
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      If Mormons are Christians, then so are Muslims.

      Both recognize Christ as important, but expand from there.

      For those of you who prefer Bartlett to Obama, re-watch the West Wing. For those who prefer Clinton, re-watch old news videos.

      by Ptolemy on Thu May 17, 2012 at 10:01:43 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  In Mormonism, Biblical Figures were from Scotland. (2+ / 0-)
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      ...or at least that's what one would assume from viewing the numerous large paintings of Biblical scenes displayed at the visitor center at Temple Square in Salt Lake City.  All the people depicted are fair-skinned and but-for being a bit too neat and clean looking, could convincingly look like cast members of Braveheart, minus Mel Gibson.  Not a swarthy, dark-skinned person among them.

      The biggest hoot though is the statue of Adam and Eve leaving the Garden in the basement floor of the Visitor's Center.  They are of course not depicted naked, but instead appear dressed on their way to a suburban Toga party.  I have to suppress LOL every time I see it.

  •  Shouldn't Mitt have (1+ / 0-)
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    refudieated the campaign?  That could keep the bigots on board.

  •  Negative (6+ / 0-)

    President Obama remains the most admired man in America despite the four years of 24/7 vilification.  A popular thought on the far-right is that McCain lost because he didn't go negative enough against Obama.  But according to former McCain senior campaign strategist Steve Schmidt, the negative attacks on Obama became more of a negative on McCain and his straight-talk brand.

    Slime and swiftboat President Obama if you must, but you do so at your own peril.  

  •  I think America should be more Christian (6+ / 0-)

    That Christ guy who never said a blessed word about either homosexuality or abortion but said quite a bit about the rich sharing their wealth.

    And I think Obama is a better Christian, by that measure, than a lot of Republicans.

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'y a aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il y a toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

    by blue aardvark on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:27:32 AM PDT

  •  Sean Hannity is unequivocal, Miit......where's the (0+ / 0-)

    popcorn.

  •  forget trying to count how many Mitts there are (2+ / 0-)
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    He's a shape shifter. As with all narcissists he will contort or contrive anything so as to not be wrong about anything. We must keep on revealing him as a rhetorical freak show.

    Decent and intelligent people (and, let's face it some big money on smart political commercials) can be convinced not for vote for him.

    imho

    Warning: That light at the end of the tunnel just might be an oncoming train.

    by history first on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:29:18 AM PDT

  •  flashback to 2004 (4+ / 0-)

    Being a Democratic activist back in 2004, I remember countless variants on "Look at [insert something horrible about Bush here]! NOW voters will FINALLY see how bad he really is!"

    Remember how well that worked out for our side?

    Attacking on the Wright connection is more of the same, only worse... it's not even anything new. "Maybe if we run an expensive enough ad campaign, voters will FINALLY see that anyone who has ever heard of Jeremiah Wright is unfit to be president!"

    All the voters who are ever going to hate Obama ALREADY hate him. That lists consists of a majority of Republicans, a decent chunk of self-styled "independent" white males who wind up voting Republican (or Libertarian) every single election, and the gadflys on the left who can't stand that Obama doesn't fart rainbows for them and prefer to call him "war criminal" rather than "president".

    Potential swing voters? They don't hate Obama. Romney has to sell them something positive, or at least a pure-policy negative (ie the economy). Not only will Jeremiah Wright attacks not convince them, it will actually offend them. Democrats? Attacking Obama doesn't reduce our turnout. Etc.

    A hate-driven base-turnout election will not win this for Romney. This is an ineffective approach for the GOP.

    Meanwhile, back in my dream world, America is enjoying the peace and prosperity of Howard Dean's second term, while Senator Obama has clinched the nomination for 2012.

    by Orbital Mind Control Lasers on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:29:51 AM PDT

  •  and Godwin claims to be attacked by Poland (0+ / 0-)
    I repudiate the effort by that PAC to promote an ad strategy of the nature they've described. [...] I think what we've seen so far from the Obama campaign is a campaign of character assassination. [...] I hope that isn't the course of this campaign. So in regards to that PAC, I repudiate what they're thinking about

    slutty voter for a "dangerous president"; Präsidentenelf-maßschach; Warning-Some Snark Above"Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) "Sciant terra viam monstrare." 政治委员, 政委!

    by annieli on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:30:30 AM PDT

  •  That billionaire has more money than brains... (7+ / 0-)

    if he really thinks anyone apart from the birther base gives a flying fock about Wright. The voters who matter didn't care about Wright in 2008 and they care even less about him now. But I hope that idiot Ricketts - sounds like a disease of some kind LOL - keeps throwing his money away into such a futile campaign.

    Just another faggity fag socialist fuckstick homosinner!

    by Ian S on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:31:51 AM PDT

  •  Ricketts's thinking: (5+ / 0-)

    I may be throwing money away by the hundreds of millions, but at least I didn't throw it away on Albert Pujols ... LOL

    Am I right, or am I right? - The Singing Detective

    by Clem Yeobright on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:32:23 AM PDT

  •  Wingnut hate is bigger than Tiny Mitt (2+ / 0-)
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    “You're evil. and when you try to be good, you're even more evil”.

  •  He may have ... (6+ / 0-)

    ... repudiated it, but he didn't refudiate it, so it doesn't count..

    Them's the caribou rules.

  •  This is only May, and the vicious insults are (6+ / 0-)

    flying thick and fast already. Brace yourselves, be ready,
    and defeat these scumbags.

    We can't outargue them or "debate" them. That train left the station long ago. We can only outnumber them.

    I was seeing what Adam had seen on the morning of his creation - the miracle, moment by moment, of naked existence. --The Doors of Perception, Aldous Huxley

    by Wildthumb on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:34:40 AM PDT

  •  Mitt Romney obviously approved the attack (6+ / 0-)

    Mitt clearly approved the attack ads.  He likely privately funded them himself.  His operatives will review and approve the ads.  And his campaign will direct when and where the ads will be placed.  

    You will see timed public statements from Mitt Romney himself (remember, he no longer is allowed to talk to reporters) falsely claiming they are not Romney's ads.  

    Romney's false denials will include comments like "we not going to run a negative campaign like Obama did in 2008" and Romney's calls on Obama not to run his own attack ads, which Romney will describe as "divisive and damaging to America."

    Read the comments from the funder.  He was denied approval by McCain.  He got approval from Romney.

  •  Romney HAS to say this. The SuperPAC will (4+ / 0-)
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    do it anyway and it will still hurt Romney's campaign. The "official" campaign position is: "We have nothing to do with it." While the hope to benefit from it and may very likely be crushed by it.

    If they really thought this was going to damage them, they'd meet privately with Ricketts et al and explain why this is a bad idea.

    They haven't and it seems the deal is still in the works. We'll see if it moves ahead in the coming weeks.

  •  Character assasination lmfao (1+ / 0-)
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  •  Please Mitt I Am BEGGING You (11+ / 0-)

    Make Jeremiah Wright an issue. Do it. Drag his crazy religious ass right into the center of the public eye. Because while Obama might have one questionable religious figure in his life, YOU have dozens. And each of those Mormon nutcases wrote thousand ands thousands of words. They're all over the place! In fact, some of the absolutely crazies, offensive shit is right in your own personal scriptures that you believe were inspired by God. Anybody can call a toll free number and have those damning materials sent right to their home for free!

    Do it. I dare you.

    Because there is NOTHING in Obama's closet that even holds a candle to the misogynistic, racist, cultish, downright bizarre ravings of the men you honor as prophets of a living God.

    "There's an iPad 3 and a Mitt Romney 4 now. They've worked the bugs out. He's not killing hobos at night anymore."

    by muzzleofbees on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:44:18 AM PDT

  •  The facts are that nasty "christians" think that (3+ / 0-)

    secularists have taken over what was supposed to be a christian nation.when our deistic founding fathers accepted all forms of belief and non belief equally wanting to avoid the useless disputes and wrangling between competing irrational belief systems and the imposition of religious restraints on medical procedures which now dominate the airwaves.  Ideally each individual would be responsible for their own relationship with God and free to do what they will.  I tried to summarize their attitude here recently with original source material.  Those like Romney attempting to destroy our Constitutionally established secular society are dangerous .  Full quote of my tag line.

    Disdain mean suspicion, but cherish manly jealousy; be always jealous of your liberty, your rights. Nip the first bud of intrusion on your constitution. Be not devoted to men; let measures be your object, and estimate men according to the measures they pursue. Never promote men who seek after a state-established religion; it is spiritual tyranny--the worst of despotism. It is turnpiking the way to heaven by human law, in order to establish ministerial gates to collect toll. It converts religion into a principle of state policy, and the gospel into merchandise. Heaven forbids the bans of marriage between church and state; their embraces therefore, must be unlawful. Guard against those men who make a great noise about religion, in choosing representatives. It is electioneering. If they knew the nature and worth of religion, they would not debauch it to such shameful purposes. If pure religion is the criterion to denominate candidates, those who make a noise about it must be rejected; for their wrangle about it, proves that they are void of it. Let honesty, talents and quick despatch, characterise the men of your choice. Such men will have a sympathy with their constituents, and will be willing to come to the light, that their deeds may be examined.

    Never promote men who seek after a state-established religion; it is spiritual tyranny--the worst of despotism. It is turnpiking the way to heaven by human law, in order to establish ministerial gates to collect toll. John Leland

    by J Edward on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:45:03 AM PDT

  •  I love the image (2+ / 0-)
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    at the top of this diary.

    Perfect ads. Even better if the two positions are close in time, like a week or month or so apart.

    Video of the first lie on the first etch-a-sketch, video of the opposing lie on the second, first play one then the other, then play them both at the same time, the noisy nonsense getting louder and louder.

    Sudden silence.

    [End with Something Pithy here, which I can't come up with while at work and hiding that I'm online.]

    Why is it that a 3% tax increase for the wealthy is considered "socialism" and an 8% wage cut for the middle class is "doing your part"? MartyM

    by delphine on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:46:41 AM PDT

  •  Rev. Wright will hurt Romney not Obama. Obama (5+ / 0-)
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    should be so lucky.

  •  Romney better lay off the Wright B.S. attack (5+ / 0-)

    because if people start flinging religious muck in this campaign, he's going to be hit with a stinking load of LDS.  Obama might have occasionally sat in a pew, but Romney shilled for his outfit for two years trying to recruit thithers and he actively served as a bishop.  Mitt's ties to that church are deep and tight and he certainly does not want Mormonism to become part of the dialogue because it and its history are far from above controversy.

  •  Mitt knows where this is headed (7+ / 0-)

    A) Wright ads
    B) President gives another speech on race, but this one is larger in scope and talks about the empathy deficit in this country
    C) More Wright ads
    D) Obama supporting SuperPAC starts hitting Romney on his tenure as Bishop of Mormon church.  Forced baptisms of Jews without him speaking out (to this day), preventing women from getting abortions, etc.  
    E) Game Obama

    For those of you who prefer Bartlett to Obama, re-watch the West Wing. For those who prefer Clinton, re-watch old news videos.

    by Ptolemy on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:51:25 AM PDT

    •  Google "Is Romney a Cylon?" (1+ / 0-)
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      That's the only smear campaign necessary to open the floodgates.

      It could be entirely on-line, making it cheap.

      It doesn't appear to be about religion, but it quickly gets into it through the Google.

      It highlights Mitt's lack of emotional empathy.

      For those of you who prefer Bartlett to Obama, re-watch the West Wing. For those who prefer Clinton, re-watch old news videos.

      by Ptolemy on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:59:37 AM PDT

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  •  Looks like Willard is really worried of Mormonism (5+ / 0-)
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    being brought up. This sounds like damage control.

  •  Here's the thing. Romney is a Mormon. He lives in (2+ / 0-)
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    a glass house IMHO. Mormons are scary. They marry, not one, but many prepubescent girls. They kick  their adolescent sons out of the house. They are rabid anti-gay, homophobes. They have a history of racism. They own Utah. They don't believe in separation of church and state. They don't believe in equal pay for women. They are obscenely rich and they use their money to bankroll policies that harm the 99%.

    48forEastAfrica - Donate to Oxfam> "It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness." Edna St.V. Millay

    by slouching on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:52:40 AM PDT

    •  This is not true of mainline LDS (1+ / 0-)
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      But people will believe it.  Unfortunately.

      All that has to happen is HBO re-running Big Love from mid-summer to the election.

      For those of you who prefer Bartlett to Obama, re-watch the West Wing. For those who prefer Clinton, re-watch old news videos.

      by Ptolemy on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:57:45 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Mormons are scary (4+ / 0-)
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        They may not practice polygamy, but what they do is take over local governments in rural areas and make it VERY difficult for you to survive in a Mormon community unless you join the church. You are shut out from jobs, and if you have children they are just naturally shut out socially because they don't go to all the little Mormon activities. And God help you if you are a single Mom.

        Living in a mormon community was a little bit of hell on Earth.

        •  Homogeneity is scary (1+ / 0-)
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          Mormons in Massachusetts are fairly low-key.  I may not agree with them all the time, especially on matters of faith and mental illness, but by being part of a multicultural Boston area they are not out of control.

          I need only look at my own people to see that it's homogeneity that is the problem.  Israel is a mess in six different ways.  And even my own corner of the Boston area, with a high Jewish proportion, is somewhat dysregulated.  We actually have a shameful effort to PREVENT a Mormon meetinghouse from being built in our community led by Jews without a sense of history.

          For those of you who prefer Bartlett to Obama, re-watch the West Wing. For those who prefer Clinton, re-watch old news videos.

          by Ptolemy on Thu May 17, 2012 at 10:12:51 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Jewish religion allows (2+ / 0-)
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            for outsiders and does not shut out business transaction with non-Jewish people.

            It may not be constitutional, but I understand the effort to prevent a Mormon meetinghouse. Mormons have beliefs that are anti-semitic. They are teh Crazy.

            •  How can they believe otherwise? (2+ / 0-)
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              If we play to stereotype?

              As far as the LDS church knows, the only Jew being vocal in support is the one looking to broker the sale of the real estate plot they are considering.

              For those of you who prefer Bartlett to Obama, re-watch the West Wing. For those who prefer Clinton, re-watch old news videos.

              by Ptolemy on Thu May 17, 2012 at 10:43:20 AM PDT

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          •  Homogeneity was probably (2+ / 0-)
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            the problem with the "clan" I lived around.

            I sound like an angry bitter person, I need to let it go. Not all Mormons are like the ones I experienced, but man it was not a good experience.

            Thanks for checking me.

            •  yes homogeneity is a problem (3+ / 0-)
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              I have met several Mormons from outside Utah who don't care for Utah Mormons. There really is a difference.

              Being part of a minority in a community is naturally humbling.
              When you're in the majority, as Mormons are in Utah, the temptation to arrogance is awfully strong.

              Myself, I live in the least Mormon part of the state (SLC is only about 50% LDS), spent a lot of years as part of the University community, and most of the people I know are non-LDS from other states (as I am), or people who left the LDS Church years ago.

              But the effect on statewide politics of the state LDS majority (which is overwhelmingly GOP) is certainly felt by everyone.

              48forEastAfrica - Donate to Oxfam If you can't feed a hundred people, then just feed one. - Mother Teresa

              by wasatch on Thu May 17, 2012 at 11:05:34 AM PDT

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  •  Deniability (2+ / 0-)
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    That is a vocabulary word from the Reagan years.  Iran Contra was mostly administrated by aides who could claim that Reagan knew nothing and therefore gave him deniability.

    The problem with the Super PAC situation is that it really gives someone like Romney deniability.  He can strut and crow and proclaim to be shocked in public, and meanwhile behind the scenes giving it all a nudge nudge, wink wink approval.  

    hope that the idiots who have no constructive and creative solutions but only look to tear down will not win the day.

    by Stuart Heady on Thu May 17, 2012 at 09:57:22 AM PDT

  •  Mormon Special Secret Underwear. (0+ / 0-)

    Mitt wears it.
    BAIN BAIN BAIN BAIN BAIN = Mitt caused nothing but PAIN. Mitt hurt human after human after human, shattering the First Rule of Robots.

    Mitt, you're so full of shitt.

    by OleHippieChick on Thu May 17, 2012 at 10:04:42 AM PDT

  •  The kooks can't stick to one theory (4+ / 0-)
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    1) He's not born here
    2) He wasn't born to his African father
    3) He was born here, but he had only one American parent
    4) He's Muslim
    5) He's the wrong kind of Christian

    Even idiots know that all five can't be simultaneously true.

    For those of you who prefer Bartlett to Obama, re-watch the West Wing. For those who prefer Clinton, re-watch old news videos.

    by Ptolemy on Thu May 17, 2012 at 10:05:51 AM PDT

    •  Rather than using theories that might stick (1+ / 0-)
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      1) He's a doubter
      2) He doesn't go to church
      3) He allows Jewish holidays to be actively celebrated in the White House

      No, they decided to go with the theories that make him more religious and dogmatic than he actually is.

      For those of you who prefer Bartlett to Obama, re-watch the West Wing. For those who prefer Clinton, re-watch old news videos.

      by Ptolemy on Thu May 17, 2012 at 10:08:06 AM PDT

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  •  Sorry, I don't see the problem (2+ / 0-)
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    Obama sat in Wright's church for years.  Wright said "God Damn America."  Obama's got to answer for that.

    Romney moves his $ offshore, likes to fire people, and said that if we bailed out the auto industry, we could "kiss it goodbye."  He's got to answer for that and a million other things.

    I like a campaign where the rap on Obama is that he's a Muslim terrorist commie.  There are plenty of sane independents who are very unhappy with the economy but are scared to death of the GOP crazies.  We already lost the vote of every single person (Americans in name only) who think Obama's a Muslim terrorist commie.

  •  They are a Parody of a Parody (0+ / 0-)
    The Chicago Cubs owner, billionaire Joe Ricketts, commissioned the $10 million plan, know as "The Defeat of Barack Hussein Obama: The Ricketts Plan to End His Spending for Good." The strategy is one of several being considered by the Ending Spending Action Fund super PAC.

    The world is about to see Jeremiah Wright and understand his influence on Barack Obama for the first time in a big, attention-arresting way," the 54-page proposal says, according to the Times.

    The proposed assault, including television commercials and full-page newspaper ads featuring Wright, along with "aerial banners" in the sky, would be timed to the Democratic National Convention in September.

    Oh nooooos not the dreaded aerial banners in the sky!

    Seriously guys, go right ahead and flush your millions down the toilet by attempting to portray the seated President of the US who in poll after poll is shown to be a well a very well liked guy by even those who don't agree with his polices as  - cue sinister music - The Scary Black Guy.

    The only people you will impress are those who already know that Obama's current term of doing nothing scary is only a clever plot to get re-elected so he can then do scary stuff.

    http://news.yahoo.com/...

  •  not to worry mittens... (0+ / 0-)

    on the subject of "character" (yours?)

    zip nada

    kind of hard to attack something that never was

    "Show up. Pay attention. Tell the truth. And don't be attached to the results." -- Angeles Arrien

    by Sybil Liberty on Thu May 17, 2012 at 10:16:00 AM PDT

  •  "a less than Christian nation"? (3+ / 0-)
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    Let me repeat that...

    a less than Christian nation?
    Well, that's how the nation was set up, wasn't it? I think most of the Founders would have been aghast at the idea that a secular United States would somehow be inferior to a Christian United States.

    Let us all have the strength to see the humanity in our enemies, and the courage to let them see the humanity in ourselves.

    by Nowhere Man on Thu May 17, 2012 at 10:19:24 AM PDT

  •  When Rmoney (0+ / 0-)

    or any of his competitors say:

    And I’m not sure which is worse, him listening to Reverend Wright or him saying that we must be a less than Christian nation.
    Ask them what part of their behavior and/or platform is what Jesus would have done.  Demand chapter and verse, and it must be from the NT.

    I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

    by trumpeter on Thu May 17, 2012 at 10:32:55 AM PDT

  •  Mr. Romney, you said; (0+ / 0-)
    "I think what we've seen so far from the Obama campaign is a campaign of character assassination."
    Since you have no character, what's the problem?

    "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." ~ Edward Abby

    by SaraBeth on Thu May 17, 2012 at 10:36:45 AM PDT

  •  The script so far: (4+ / 0-)
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    ROMNEY: I'm running on my record as a governor and a businessman.

    OTHER GOPers: You created Obamacare!

    ROMNEY: Not true!

    OBAMA: Your business record sucks.

    ROMNEY: Character assassination!

    [/scene]

    "Speaking for myself only" - Armando

    by JR on Thu May 17, 2012 at 10:36:54 AM PDT

  •  "Apparently there are two Mitt Romneys" (0+ / 0-)

    Only two??

    "The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." -- Hubert H. Humphrey

    by Candide08 on Thu May 17, 2012 at 10:47:32 AM PDT

  •  Romney has twisted Obama's words on this. (2+ / 0-)
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    Many, many other conservatives have done so as well. Here's the actual quote (from p. 258 in The Audacity of Hope)

    "Whatever we once were, we are no longer just a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.”
    I talk about this in my book (see my sig line) quite a bit. He is very clearly being inclusive of all religions, saying that those of every religious belief are part of America, part of the American community. Opposing this statement, as Romney does, means he believes Christianity ought to occupy a privileged position above other religions in today's America. I'd be curious to see him take a stand directly on that. Either way, Romney has twisted what Obama said in the quote from February that Jed provided above, by saying that Obama said, "we must be a less than Christian nation."

    Obama said no such thing.

  •  Obama campaign should leak that one of their PACs (0+ / 0-)

    was going to release an expose[Speaking of religions n things]about Morman cult founder Joseph Smith, the golden sheaves, speaking with gawd directly, etc., etc. Multiple wives, derision of blacks and people of color but Obama put the kibosh on the release. No need to discuss cults or religions, let's talk economy and the friggin mess that Bush left Obama. Bush's ekonomic voo doo-doo doo would certainly take a minimum of 8 years to clean up....

    "Round up the usual suspects"

    by NanaoKnows on Thu May 17, 2012 at 11:34:43 AM PDT

  •  So glad I am a lifelong diehard White Sox fan! n/t (0+ / 0-)

    "The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian... America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance." The Real Ron Paul

    by 815Sox on Thu May 17, 2012 at 11:50:02 AM PDT

  •  Ricketts says this has nothing to do with Cubs (0+ / 0-)

    He'll try to go to the public trough to get taxpayers to pay for Wrigley field improvements. Boycott 'em anyway. Make it cost them.

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