1. Remove my first two letters & you have a subject taught in many schools. A character in a children's story both lacked & sought me. What am I?

2. I am the opposite of despair. If you change one letter in my name, I am a religous leader. What am I?

3. Remove my last three letters and I am a group of ships. I do not last very long. What am I?

For the past few weeks both Sunday Puzzle and Sunday Puzzle Warm-Up have featured the Julie Waters Memorial Puzzle Challenge -- a challenge which Julie herself created 10 years ago, and which no one (yet!) has successfully completed. In Julie's honor, we're going to be the first to do so.

Last week we began the third and final phase of the challenge -- and this week there's a good chance we could finish it. If I'm right, we have 4 puzzles left to solve (and possibly a kicker at the end).

Tomorrow morning we'll see if our collective brain-power is enough to crack the final (and likely hardest) JulieChallenges.

Meanwhile you can see a sampling of Phase III puzzles in tonight's diary (such as the trio of riddles above). You'll find more a little farther down. Plus, of course, there's the regular Saturday evening warm-up puzzle. It's all waiting for you right below the nurple...

First, here's a real tough puzzle:

0.000   1.000   2.000   3.000   4.000   5.000
1.000   1.000   0.500  -0.167  -0.917  -1.717
2.000   1.000  -1.000   2.000   1.818   1.284
3.000   1.000   2.000   2.500   ?????  -0.016
4.000   1.000   0.500  -0.300  -2.086  86.480
5.000   1.000  -1.000   0.667   0.523   0.547
6.000   1.000   2.000   3.500   2.225   1.269

What goes in place of the ????

I don't know! But if you're in the mood for a mental workout, give it a shot -- or come back tomorrow morning to cheer our resident math whizzes on as they come up with the answer.

There's another hard math puzzle I'll be posting tomorrow. But for tonight, let's stick mainly with word puzzles. Like this one:

What's the longest word you can make from this grid? (each cell can only be used once, and you can only move to an adjacent cell. You may start at any point.)

Even if you don't know the word Julie had in mind for that -- and you probably don't; it's not in the online dictionaries I checked -- you can still probably guess the answer.

And if you can't here's one with an answer you will be familiar with:

Take the words: DISHONEST, DRUGGED & CALLOW. Rearrange them to form the real name of a well-known author. What is this author's better-known name?
Here's another fun one. In this puzzle, The 3 lines you are given provide the name of a well-known person. One line gives the person's initials; one gives the pattern of vowels and consonants in the name; and one line consists of an anagram of the letters in the name. You'll need to figure out which line is which.
CIDER LIE
ELMER IVY
EVEN OLDE
Want another?
HOC JAM FELIX
MAY JOB FARCE
Complete the following from the choices given

[your choices: joker, junk, jackal, june, jab, jungle, january, jupiter, jainism]

bru-ha-ha, entered, hanging, crib, false...?

[your choices: moon, mile, maneuver, monday, more, meaning, mantis, morsel, mined]
acres, surface, egg, proof, moment...?
[your choices: circular, cellular, colander, criminal, clandestine, choosing, craters, calling, culling]
...............................................................................................
JulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulie
EilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEiluj
...............................................................................................

And now, our regular Saturday night feature: tonight's JulieCrostic.

(If you've never seen or done this type of acrostic puzzle before, don't panic. Full instructions, and an example of a completed puzzle, can be found just below the puzzle.)

1.            [ ]  2.              [ ]   3.
4.            [ ]  5.              [ ]   6.
7.            [ ]  8.              [ ]   9.
10.            [ ] 11.              [ ]  12.

1. street
2. hidden stash
3. duck or university

4. sprightly
5. 43 year old principle
6. do over

7.  acquire
8. once more
9. subject of monologues

10. give a damn
11. give someone what they desire

...............................................................................................
JulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulieJulie
EilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEilujEiluj
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how to solve JulieCrostics

Read the clues provided, then fill in answers to match the clues in the appropriately numbered spaces in the diagram.

Each word in a row has all the letters of the previous word in that row, plus one new letter.

Write the new letter in the space between the answers.  For example, if the answers in a row were CRAG, CARGO and COUGAR, you'd place an "O" in the space between CRAG and CARGO, a "U" in the space between CARGO and COUGAR.

When you have filled in all the spaces correctly, the columns formed by the added letters should spell out related words.  It might be a person's name, such as CHARLES DICKENS (spelled out in two columns).  It might be the title of a book or movie, such as GONEW ITHTH EWIND (spelled out in three columns).  It might be almost anything.  Your challenge is to figure out what the verticals say and what they mean.

EXAMPLE OF A SOLVED PUZZLE
1. yes
2. something Paul Krugman, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney have in common
3. premature

4. limb
5. delight
6. big bird

7. before
8. swerve
9. brink

10. American Crossroads, for a noxious example
11. superhero accessory
12. noteworthy movement

1. aye  L  2. Yale  R  3. early
4. leg  E  5. glee  A  6. eagle
7. ere  V  8. veer  G  9. verge
10. PAC  E 11. cape  E 12. peace

The verticals read LEVE  RAGE -- which, properly spaced, spell out "Leverage" .

Enjoy the puzzles -- and don't forget to drop by Sunday Puzzle tomorrow as we try to solve the remaining puzzles in the JulieChallenge.

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• ##### sliding scale tips(5+ / 0-)
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MsGrin, puzzled, pucklady, NYC Sophia, science

Last week one of the puzzles we tackled in Sunday Puzzle was a sliding tiles puzzle Julie had posted in the challenge.

Well, Julie posted another version of it -- a harder one -- for Phase III puzzle 20.  You get up to 325 moves to fix the picture. Have fun playing with it!

• ##### first puzzle(3+ / 0-)
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1. Heart

2. Hope

3.  Fleeting

There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast.

• ##### Right on all three!(3+ / 0-)
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(While you're on a roll, do you have any idea what the answer to the math puzzle could be? I keep looking at the numbers and just can't see the pattern!)

• ##### not my strong suit(3+ / 0-)
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but I'll look.  Hope you're having a good weekend.

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• ##### 10,11,12(3+ / 0-)
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CARE    T     REACT     E     CREATE

There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast.

• ##### I'm a little skeptical of your answer to 11...(2+ / 0-)
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I suppose REACT could fit the clue ("give someone what they desire") but it doesn't feel right.

I suspect that's not the intended answer. ;)

• ##### How about(3+ / 0-)
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CATER

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• ##### need to run out(3+ / 0-)
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I'll check back in a bit to see if anyone else has come along to help solve these.

There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast.

• ##### I'm going to take a nap in order to be awake (and(2+ / 0-)
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moderately alert) for tomorrow's Sunday Puzzle.

Answers to the JulieChallenge puzzles in tonight's diary will be available in tomorrow's Sunday Puzzle diary. I'll post the puzzles in the diary, and will post answers in comments for any puzzles which go unsolved. (Well, except for the number chart puzzle; I'm stumped at the moment on that one so can't promise to post the answer. But I'm expecting plf, Fordian or science to make short work of that puzzle.)

And the answer to tonight's JulieCrostic will be posted in next week's Sunday Puzzle Warm-up.

Have a great night, and hope to see you in the morning over in Sunday Puzzle!

• ##### I took a nap and just woke up now!(2+ / 0-)
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Let's look at the puzzle ......

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• ##### 1,2(2+ / 0-)
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Nova Land, science

I am progressive. I am liberal. I make no apologies. - Kos

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• ##### 7,8(2+ / 0-)
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gain a again

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• ##### verticals, I think(2+ / 0-)
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The grid looks like

.... . ..... . ......
gain a again . ......
care t cater e create

I think it's HEAT WAVE

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• ##### you think right(2+ / 0-)
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We're in the mid-90s here this week (and continuing into June), so I thought a literal Sunday Puzzle Warm-Up puzzle might be appropriate tonight.

• ##### I've always said I think there is a limited(2+ / 0-)
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number of degrees in this country. Either we get all the degrees or the East Coast gets them.

You are getting the degrees right now. I actually had to get out the space heater yesterday. I couldn't get warm enough just drinking hot tea.

And we had rain, too! RAIN! So weird. I wasn't expecting any more precipitation until November, and here it is!

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• ##### 3(2+ / 0-)
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howard

Howard the Duck was one of the worst movies ever made.

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• ##### and one of the best comics...(2+ / 0-)
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at least until Marvel fired creator/writer Steve Gerber.

Gerber was an incredibly gifted comics writer. Among series he wrote which are well worth reading:

Howard the Duck (issues 1 - 27)
Man-Thing (Adventures Into Fear 11-19, Man-Thing 1-22, Giant-Size Man-Thing 1-5)
Defenders (Defenders issues 18-41)

The complete run of Gerber's original Howard the Duck is available in an inexpensive reprint volume, which includes Howard's 1976 run for president, his 1978 battle with Anita Bryant, and more. Essential Howard the Duck. Well worth reading!

• ##### 9(2+ / 0-)
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vagina
(vagina monologues)

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• ##### 4-6(2+ / 0-)
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pert e peter a repeat

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• ##### hi, nova(2+ / 0-)
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I don't see the math puzzle answer right away, alas.

the long word is SOPHOLOGICALLY

One of the names is ERIC IDLE

• ##### very puzzled by(2+ / 0-)
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HOC JAM FELIX
MAY JOB FARCE

MAD HOE STRAP can't be the anagram because there's no J.

MAY JOB FARCE can't be the anagram because there's no H.

so HOC JAM FELIX is the anagram.    Then MAD HOE STRAP can't be the initials because there's no S in the anagram.

So

HOC JAM FELIX  (anagram)
MAY JOB FARCE  (initials)

But the three consecutive consonants starting with F? Huh?

So I'm confused....I'll eat breakfast, read the paper and come back to the others.

• ##### on the right track...(2+ / 0-)
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but where you went astray is assuming 3 consecutive consonants starting with F.

• ##### ?(2+ / 0-)
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If MAD HOE STRAP is the vowel pattern, the third word starts with three consonants, and it also starts with F.

Do I misunderstand the definition of "vowel pattern"?

• ##### oh(2+ / 0-)
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I've assumed a 3-3-5 pattern, but that would seem to be indicated by the "initials".   However, reading the precise rules, that isn't the case necessarily....

• ##### I suppose(2+ / 0-)
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PHOSPHOLOGICALLY could refer to "pertaining to the study of phosphorus...."

• ##### The longest one I could think of is(2+ / 0-)
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SPHEROLOGICALLY

But that one doesn't open the door, either.

I suspect the correct word uses all the letters.

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• ##### not long enough, either of you... [HINT](2+ / 0-)
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the word you are looking for has 18 letters.

• ##### 18 letters(2+ / 0-)
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Phytoserologically

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A Serological and Disc Electrophoretic Investigation of Magnolia Taxa
www.jstor.org/stable/10.2307/2483564
by JL Pickering - 1967 - Cited by 6 - Related articles
Early phytoserological studies were started by Mez and Gilig in the 1920's (Chester, 1937). Publications in zoological systematic serology by Boyden (1942) ...

• ##### right on the name, wrong on the word!(2+ / 0-)
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There's a word which is longer by several letters.

• ##### Good morning, all. The author is better known as(3+ / 0-)
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