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It's Memorial Day.  I'm in the restaurant business, so I worked today as I have every Memorial Day for the last 25 years.  But that is neither here nor there.  I'd like to thank all those who have served and those who have died.  But...

  I don't want to thank them for my freedoms.  I don't believe that my freedoms emanate from, nor are protected by, the heroics of a soldier.  I believe that my freedoms are a product of an amazing group of (mostly) men who designed and fought for this imperfect but amazing country some 240 years ago.
   I appreciate that some people are brave enough to go to war.  I would suggest, generally speaking, that I am not.  I am also not inclined to send my two sons, should the opportunity present itself in the future.  In my lifetime, our armed forces have not been called upon to protect my freedoms.  I'm really not sure the last time they were.  In WWII, we protected the hell out of Europe and certainly we avenged the attack on Pearl Harbor.  But were my rights ever in jeopardy?  I think not.
    So thank you, to all who have served.  And I'm truly saddened that anyone has been put in a position to give their life for these lousy wars we've fought in the last 60 years.  
    Thank you.  But not for my rights.  I've got those thanks to a vision unrelated to an army or a soldier.  

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  •  Brilliant (4+ / 0-)

    I was going to blockquote the best sentence as proof, but it's all good. Yes. The Constitution protects our freedom.  Not so much our armed forces, whose losses we mourn and commemorate today for their service.

    I think I hear a freeper's head exploding.

    -7.75, -8.10; We are all Wisconsin

    by Dave in Northridge on Mon May 28, 2012 at 03:50:37 PM PDT

    •  The Constitution wouldn't protect diddly ... (2+ / 0-)
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      Clem Yeobright, BlackSheep1

      without our military members who protect its continuance by preventing us from being overrun by those who would seek to conqueror the United States.  Anyone who thinks that could and would never happen should first educate themselves on the subject of human nature and the facts of history.  Luckily, the majority of Americans understand the necessity of a strong military and will never allow us to become vulnerable, despite the opinions of a few.

      Whether or not we should be involved in any particular conflict is not the issue.  But I would never support the idea of our being defenseless and trusting in the good natures of others.

      "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

      by Neuroptimalian on Mon May 28, 2012 at 11:10:21 PM PDT

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      •  Maybe so, but the Diarist is correct. (1+ / 0-)
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        Dave in Northridge

        We haven't fought a "war" since wwii where "the enemy" could even remotefully be considered a threat to the nation in any shape or form. Certainly not the threat that Nazi Germany or Japan posed.
        Korea? WTF was that about? Zero threat.
        Vietnam? same. no threat.
        Ollie North and his Sandinistas? exactly. They were about to invade Tuscon?
        George 41's Gulf I ??
        Bubba's adventure in Kosovo?
        George 43's Gulf II ??
        In none of these were Troops sent to "defend the country" from some enemy wannabee. It could be argued, strongly, that all of these were "elective" "wars." Politicians sending Troops off in harms way not so much to defend the country, but to "win" something instead. So much so that the "kids" (under 40) have grown up with the idea that we have no problem as a country kicking somebody's ass simply for the sake of kicking their ass. Born in the '70s their first "war" experience was George 41's Gulf I. They don't know anything except Shock and Awe. "Hey! Check that out! Just like our video game! Push a button, kaboom!" The sad part, having been brought up with this nonsense they don't even question it. Just like they see nothing wrong with Ayn Rand Capitalism.

  •  Either you're not too good with arithmetic (3+ / 0-)

    or your knowledge of what took place when in our history is sorely lacking..  Regardless, I think you have incredibly poor taste to post this today.  

    The longer I live, the clearer I perceive how unmatchable a compliment one pays when he says of a man "he has the courage to utter his convictions." Mark Twain

    by Persiflage on Mon May 28, 2012 at 03:52:19 PM PDT

  •  His post may not be to your liking, but it's not (4+ / 0-)

    insulting, just an astute observation. As for his arithmetic, without my calculator i am at third grade level.

  •  I think WWII was a war on the United States. (4+ / 0-)

    Not only with the bombing at Pearl Harbor but also the German boats landing on the Eastern seaboard and then returning to Germany as a test run, this was truly a war that threatened the United States.

  •  Yep Every King, Tyrant and Dictator Has Troops. (2+ / 0-)
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    OleHippieChick, BlackSheep1

    The troops guarantee security, and that's important, and the sacrifice of those who died fighting for it is honored on this day.

    The source of our freedoms is identified in the opening words of our most important document:

    "We, the people."

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon May 28, 2012 at 04:31:03 PM PDT

    •  Oops Meant to Say, I've Avoided Making This Point (0+ / 0-)

      today. We have 364 (or a few less) good days for it.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Mon May 28, 2012 at 04:32:14 PM PDT

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  •  'thanking veterans for our freedom' doesn't bug me (4+ / 0-)

    What bugs me is the propaganda behind 'thanking veterans for our freedom.'

    Thanking them is just a cheap way to avoid taking care of them;

    And it helps make it that much more likely to guarantee there will be a next-generation of heroes for us to thank for their sacrifice.

    Every society for all of history that has sent its youth off to kill and die in war has used the same rhetorical flourishes we use today.

    Today is absolutely the best day for this diary.

    Thanks,

    tipped.

  •  This vet says "you're damn right." nt (5+ / 0-)

    The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike from sleeping under bridges. ~ Anatole France

    by ActivistGuy on Mon May 28, 2012 at 05:51:15 PM PDT

  •  Like many "rights" and protections we all enjoy (2+ / 0-)
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    Clem Yeobright, BlackSheep1

    they are only words unless backed up by something...whether that something is a justice system or policemen or soldiers or...as appropriate and necssary.  

    That said, i agree that since WW2 the wars we've fought have not been about protecting our rights and freedoms and have been both unneccessary and inappropriate judged by that criteria alone.  And, having actually fought in one of those wars, I opine that whatever the reason, it wasn't worth the price we paid in blood and anguish.

    On a different level, today is about honoring those who died in service to our nation and their comrades.  Tomorrow might be a good time to discuss your opinions.  Today it's simply callous and insulting...my opinion.

    The longer I live, the clearer I perceive how unmatchable a compliment one pays when he says of a man "he has the courage to utter his convictions." Mark Twain

    by Persiflage on Mon May 28, 2012 at 06:53:09 PM PDT

  •  Timmeh, you think women weren't fighting during (1+ / 0-)
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    BlackSheep1

    the Revolution?  

    Eh?

    Try again.

    Or go to hell.

  •  and Timmeh, if you need directions (0+ / 0-)

    this old disabled vet, despite being female, can draw you a map.
    Teach you to read it and a compass, and make sure you can find your destination without benefit of a GPS.

     This diary might have been meant to be a thoughtful reminder that our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines are fighting for us, for our nation, for the rights and the ideas we stand for and enjoy, but if that's what the OP meant, it's a fail. What comes through is contempt for the men, women, boys and girls -- for it is often the young who fight -- the sons and brothers, fathers and uncles, friends and neighbors, mothers and sisters, daughters and aunts, teachers and classmates -- who serve, and have served in the past, and continue to value this nation enough to serve in the future.

    LBJ & Lady Bird, Sully Sullenberger, Molly Ivins, Barbara Jordan, Ann Richards, Drew Brees: Texas is No Bush League! -7.50,-5.59

    by BlackSheep1 on Tue May 29, 2012 at 11:51:10 AM PDT

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