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BOO!

But seriously, somebody is monitoring your activity on the interwebz, or at least recording data on it.

The DHS apparently has a list of keywords that they're scouring the internet, including social media, for and recording who posted it.

I beg your pardon if I'm not shaking in my chair right now.

Here's who else is watching your communications activities:

* Your ISP

* Whichever search engine you're using, they are

* Every social media medium you're using is tracking your activity and gathering data on you

Consider the above before googling "Racoon porn" through your Comcast internet service. Also consider it when worrying yourself over whether the DHS knows you just tweeted a message that has "flu" or "terrorist" in it.

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In my opinion, we should be worried about reprisal, not whether we're being watched. Any semblance of privacy was lost during the Cold War, and you never had it to begin with if you participate in the Age of the Internet.

U mad? Is what it is.

Instead, be mad about Oakland, where apparently all the bad cops go to further their careers, and their trumped-up charges on a dissenter. Be concerned and watchful when things like the Chicago PD chasing down videographers go down (even if slightly overblown). *somebody link me to that diary I cannot find it

Don't worry yourself over an unrealistic expectation of privacy. Worry about illegal/unconstitutional reprisals against your activities.

You can have privacy if you go live in thick woods (or under thick rocks) that provide cover from satellite viewing, and participate in no electronic communication. Otherwise, true privacy is just a pipe dream that was dead since we stopped using snail mail as our primary form of communication.

In terms of privacy of public activity and communications, time to accept reality and move on.

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I would give up the internet, satellites, airplanes and radio for complete privacy.

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  •  My biggest concern... (4+ / 0-)

    ...is that we're going the way of the old Soviet Union.  If our national security state thinks that monitoring gadzillions of bytes is a trivial matter because, hey, computing is cheap, they haven't thought this through enough.  You can't have a passably dynamic economy when half of the people are busy and ungainfully employed) monitoring the other half.  

    Dear conservatives: If instead of "marriage equality" we call it "voluntary government registration of committed homosexuals," are you on board?

    by Rich in PA on Tue May 29, 2012 at 08:10:45 AM PDT

  •  Further, if that didn't occur to y'all already (2+ / 0-)
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    GoGoGoEverton, sviscusi

    I'm not sure you know how all this works. Worry about the illegal stuff because there isn't much you can do about the routine stuff.

    -7.75, -8.10; We are all Wisconsin

    by Dave in Northridge on Tue May 29, 2012 at 08:12:31 AM PDT

  •  I want complete records. (0+ / 0-)

    It's OK if they look.  Can't see it not happening, because it would be all too easily exploited.

    Just keep a full accounting to prevent abuse.  That is my red flag.  When they won't do that, it's an issue.

    ***Be Excellent To One Another***
    IF THEY ARE GOING TO SCREW THE PEOPLE, MAKE THEM OWN IT.

    by potatohead on Tue May 29, 2012 at 09:04:56 AM PDT

  •  Uhm, there is a right to privacy in this (0+ / 0-)

    country.

    So, no I won't "be worried about reprisal, not whether we're being watched".

    "I'm not scared of anyone or anything, Angie. Isn't that the way life should be?" Jack Hawksmoor

    by skyounkin on Tue May 29, 2012 at 09:11:47 AM PDT

    •  Do you think Google is violating that when you (1+ / 0-)
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      johnny wurster

      use their search engine? That your ISP is violating that when they collect data on you?

      •  first, you choose to use those. the companies (3+ / 0-)
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        PhilJD, priceman, joe shikspack

        you are citing have privacy policies and if you do sign up with them, you are giving them permission to collect certain types of data. but those aren't filing info with names, physical addresses, SS numbers, and all the lovely things that the gov't seems to be nowadays collecting on you.

        those companies monitor superficial stuff, and in many cases, the identifiers are impersonal - IP numbers, browsing cookies, etc...

        the gov't monitoring language is putting language and words and possible meaning to personal identifying information, and last i checked, that wasn't something that i had to agree to or opt out of.

        seriously, you don't see a difference between Google logging my shopping preferences under my IP number and gov't logging the content of my conversations under my actual name, address, and SS number?

        really?

        Hope has two beautiful daughters; their names are Anger and Courage. Anger at the way things are and Courage to see that they do not remain as they are. --St Augustine

        by poligirl on Tue May 29, 2012 at 11:17:33 AM PDT

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      •  Yes, that's why I don't use Google anymore, (1+ / 0-)
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        joe shikspack

        and I block cookies, scripts, and cross-site requests by default.

        These same arguments also applied to telegraph and telephone communication, yet legislation and case law were developed to protect the people's privacy -- such as the Wiretap Act, the Telecom Act of 1934.  We didn't just let people tap the phones and say "it is what it is."

        Katz (1967) articulated the notion of "reasonable expectation of privacy":  if you expect your communication to be private, such as in a telephone booth, then the Fourth Amendment attaches.  I think on the internet we all should really be "expecting" and demanding more privacy, and if we did that and clicked our ruby slippers together, we might actually have more legally protected privacy.  And if we don't have magic shoes we will need activists like EFF, CDT, and the ACLU -- but I don't think it's impossible.

        'Powerful influences strive today to restore that kind of government with its doctrine that Government is best which is most indifferent.' -- F. D. Roosevelt

        by LandruBek on Tue May 29, 2012 at 11:18:59 AM PDT

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  •  Reading public websites? (2+ / 0-)
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    GoGoGoEverton, Catte Nappe

    Next you'll tell me that they'll be walking on public streets.

    It's a short line from that to FEMA camps, people.  Better stock up on canned goods and gold coins.

  •  ... (0+ / 0-)

    If you're not perpetually scary then you're not paying attention!

    The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing online commenters that they have anything to say.-- B.F.

    by lcj98 on Tue May 29, 2012 at 11:05:02 AM PDT

  •  The reprisals I'm most worried about... (0+ / 0-)

    ... are the ones "best served cold". You think you're doing all right, then you don't get the job you thought you were going to get. Or you get denied a loan despite a good credit score. How exactly did something you were so sure you had, slip fro your grasp? Did a terrorism charge or a mysterious felony somehow show up on your record, from information shared and misinterpreted? Or even a reputation of "not playing well with others", given how important people skills are to getting damn near anything out of life are.

    I'm a hell of a lot more worried about an employer believing they can divine my personality based on my Facebook page, and making decisions based on it that could limit the rest of my professional life and ability to reinvent myself, than I am about Google collecting my search terms.

    Real Democrats don't abandon the middle class. --John Kerry

    by Lucy Montrose on Tue May 29, 2012 at 11:45:34 AM PDT

  •  I type the words "Caesium" and "bomb" (0+ / 0-)

    In Google every day.. I am a Job creator!!!

    "Obama, the change that leads to indefinite detention and the abrogation of the Constitution! Yes He Can!"

    by hangingchad on Tue May 29, 2012 at 01:36:12 PM PDT

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