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Screenshot of Mitt Romney on CNBC
Screenshot of Mitt Romney on CNBC
Did you hear the one about how our economic problems started 40 months ago when President Obama was sworn into office? If not, you weren't listening to Mitt Romney on CNBC shortly before 1:00 PM ET.

Romney said today's jobs report was "devastating" and "very bad news for the American people," which is to be expected. But he went beyond that, repeatedly claiming that the economy didn't nosedive until the beginning of President Obama's first term, 40 months ago.

"This crisis has been going on for 40 months," Romney said. "We should be well into a very robust recovery by now."

Romney's 40 month claim is as absurd as it is false.

First, things didn't start to get bad 40 months ago—the recession started in December of 2007—54 months ago. The economy was in free fall when President Obama took office. Romney (with his patented Romnesia) wants us to forget about that, but the fact is that the economy fell off the cliff during the Bush presidency. It ended in June of 2009, six months after President Obama took office.

Second, even though the last couple of months have seen weak jobs growth, the fact is that we've had 27 straight months of private sector job growth. More than 4.2 million private sector jobs have been created during that span, putting Obama's overall private sector job growth record in the positive territory—unlike George W. Bush.

But despite the fact that the recession actually started 54 months ago—under George W. Bush—and despite the fact that private sector jobs have gone up for 27 straight months—under President Obama—Mitt Romney's self-serving "analysis" is that this whole mess started 40 months ago.

And based on that self-serving analysis, Romney says the only cure is to put him the Oval Office. "Probably the most significant thing we can do in the near term is to get a new president." I guess that's true—if you want to return to the very same policies that tanked the economy in the first place.

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  •  makes Bush seem likeable (28+ / 0-)

    Romney is such a prick it's hard to see him getting elected but anything is possible. I really fear this guy would get us into wars all over the world. America better wake up to his bullshit.

  •  Stan O'Neal and Charlie Prince of (1+ / 0-)
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    Merrill and Citi respectively were shown the door 4th Quarter 2007 with that their replacements began instituting layoffs & buyouts.

    Doctor Mitt Romney Brain Sturgeon-The Operation was a success but the patient died, where's my fee?

    by JML9999 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:38:45 AM PDT

  •  Lets' keep pounding that (6+ / 0-)

    "Private sector job growth" mantra.

    Because everyone knows public servants don't have real jobs and their lay offs don't count.

    I am not being hyperbolic when I say that self-styled liberals trying to minimize and down play real suffering in this country have caused me to lose hope that a better world is possible.

    It's a war on the poor waged from behind our own lines.

    The club is all their law, to keep all men in awe That they no vision saw to maintain such a law

    by JesseCW on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:40:49 AM PDT

  •  The recession started (0+ / 0-)

    long before anyone official said it did.

  •  Romnesia (7+ / 0-)

    Lol. I love it. It is a keeper

  •  Politics (1+ / 0-)
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    So deceitful....such a load of B.S.

    The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government. - Thomas Jefferson

    by ctexrep on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:42:20 AM PDT

  •  And his prescription is what? (4+ / 0-)
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    Supavash, Gorette, Nada Lemming, RichM
    Friday’s weak jobs report has prompted speculation that the Federal Reserve will attempt another round of quantitative easing, buying up bonds in order to pump more money into the flagging economy. Mitt Romney, however, told CNBC that he hopes they sit tight despite recent troubles.

    “I don’t think were looking for more, a QE3, if you will,” he said. “I don’t think that will have any more impact than QE2 did.”

    Besides more wars and tax cuts for the 1%?
  •  Of course it was only 40 months ago (0+ / 0-)

    And, 96 months before that, the economy only started to improve after the horrible economic catastrophe that lasted from 1993 to 2001.

    Of course, it was about 44 months ago when President Obama presided over the collapse of Wall Street and signed that horrible bailout that cost us $700 billion.

    In Romney's mind, that is exactly how history is written.

  •  Like it or not, if the job numbers continue this (5+ / 0-)
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    jalenth, TimmyB, Dillonfence, RichM, satrap

    trend, this guy is going to be president.  

    •  Because the majority of the voting public is too (4+ / 0-)
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      Gorette, lcj98, Supavash, Catte Nappe

      stupid to understand he's lying and too impatient to let thing continue to improve. They want instant gratification and in the end they get taken for the losers they are and yet they never learn!

      •  Well... (4+ / 0-)
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        jalenth, JeffW, satrap, coffejoe

        It's easier to blame the guy who's the head of government.  Nevermind that he's obligated to share the whole governing thing with those 600+ people in the one building down the street.

        The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing online commenters that they have anything to say.-- B.F.

        by lcj98 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 11:14:36 AM PDT

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      •  Things aren't improving.... the only reason (5+ / 0-)

        unemployment has been trending down in the past couple of months is because millions are no longer counted in the labor force.  I have two close relatives who have GIVEN UP.  Are they stupid too for being frustrated at the lack of progress this administration has made?   Three and a half years is a long time to be desperate.  

        The only people who benefited from the improvement under Obama were the bankers and those who owned a ton of stocks.  And even the stock market is tanking now, because it's clearly been running on fumes all this time.

        Americans aren't stupid.  They do regime change when they know the incumbent has run out of ideas and become ineffective.  Obama needs to go bold now, but he's not.  He's actually bragging about cutting federal spending!

        •  exactly (2+ / 0-)
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          satrap, TimmyB
          "Americans aren't stupid.  They do regime change when they know the incumbent has run out of ideas and become ineffective.  Obama needs to go bold now, but he's not.  He's actually bragging about cutting federal spending!"
          When faced with a choice between somebody who hasn't fixed things in 3+ years and who is not proposing anything that will fix things, and a guy who says he can fix things (no matter how unlikely his plans are to actually work), people will go with the guy who says he can fix things.
        •  That's a lie - U6 rate (0+ / 0-)

          You are a liar just like Mitt.  The unemployment rate has NOT been trending down due to people giving up.  The U6 unemployment rate includes people who give up looking and those who are underemployed, and that has been trending down along with the U3.  Why is it so hard for people to be honest?

      •  Wow (0+ / 0-)

        What a condescending attitude. You must be really smart.

    •  No Kidding (2+ / 0-)
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      jeopardydd, Nada Lemming

      No matter when the economy started to tank, Obama has failed to fix it  The awful truth is that Obama has no plan to fix it going forward.  

      If Obama wants to be relected, he needs to come up with a jobs plan that people will support.  I suggest letting the Obama/Bush tax cuts expire and using the money for an infrastructure rebuilding program.  There are lots of other ways to get  jobs to the people who need them.

      However floundering around and doing nothing will won't win the election for Obama.  He needs a jobs program asap.

      •  Obama RAN on letting the Bush taxcuts expire in 08 (2+ / 0-)
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        Nada Lemming, TimmyB


        Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, what was that again?

        •  that's not a plan (3+ / 0-)
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          to fix things, though.

          in fact, it's a plan to make financial fraud easier.

          •  I totally disagree with you. (0+ / 0-)

            The bill discussed in the article does not follow the President's Act.

            Did you read the article you posted, and have you read the link I posted?

            •  are you saying (0+ / 0-)

              that the bill has changed in some significant way since the article was written?

              •  I am saying (0+ / 0-)

                that what the President proposed is NOT what was in the bill.  Please download from the site I linked.

                •  just looked at it (1+ / 0-)
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                  it DOES contain the pro-fraud parts (it's the anti-regulatory for "small businesses" part.

                •  moreover (2+ / 0-)
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                  TimmyB, hmi

                  the biggest parts of it are just continuing current policies (which have proven to be inadequate).

                  No, this is not a plan for fixing the economy.

                  •  "Biggest Parts" ? (0+ / 0-)

                    Each of these added together makes for a 'big part' of improving our economy, adding jobs:

                    . A “Returning Heroes” hiring tax credit for veterans: This provides tax credits from $5,600 to $9,600 to
                    encourage the hiring of unemployed veterans.
                    • Preventing up to 280,000 teacher layoffs, while keeping cops and firefighters on the job.
                    • Modernizing at least 35,000 public schools across the country, supporting new science labs, Internet-ready
                    classrooms and renovations at schools across the country, in rural and urban areas.
                    • Immediate investments in infrastructure and a bipartisan National Infrastructure Bank, modernizing our roads,
                    rail, airports and waterways while putting hundreds of thousands of workers back on the job.
                    • A New “Project Rebuild”, which will put people to work rehabilitating homes, businesses and communities,
                    leveraging private capital and scaling land banks and other public-private collaborations.
                    • Expanding access to high-speed wireless as part of a plan for freeing up the nation’s spectrum.

                    The most innovative reform to the unemployment insurance program in 40 years: As part of an extension
                    of unemployment insurance to prevent 5 million Americans looking for work from losing their benefits, the
                    President’s plan includes innovative work-based reforms to prevent layoffs and give states greater flexibility to
                    use UI funds to best support job-seekers, including:
                    »» Work-Sharing: UI for workers whose employers choose work-sharing over layoffs.
                    »» A new “Bridge to Work” program: The plan builds on and improves innovative state programs where
                    those displaced take temporary, voluntary work or pursue on-the-job training.
                    »» Innovative entrepreneurship and wage insurance programs: States will also be empowered to implement
                    wage insurance to help reemploy older workers and programs that make it easier for unemployed
                    workers to start their own businesses.
                    • A $4,000 tax credit to employers for hiring long-term unemployed workers.
                    • Prohibiting employers from discriminating against unemployed workers when hiring.
                    • Expanding job opportunities for low-income youth and adults through a fund for successful approaches

                    .  Allowing more Americans to refinance their mortgages at today’s near 4 percent interest rates, which can put
                    more than $2,000 a year in a family’s pocket.

                    •  yes, the biggest parts, according to the (1+ / 0-)
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                      cost breakdown in the .pdf, are the extensions for both the employer and employee payroll tax cuts (which is not even NEW spending).

                    •  look at page 6 (1+ / 0-)
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                      of the .pdf you asked me to download and look at, and it has the cost breakdown.

                      of the $447B, about $200B is non-payroll tax cuts, with the majority just extensions of the already existing tax cuts (which is not even new stimulus).

                      and, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT, it says on that same page that it will be "full paid-for" and will include "additional deficit reduction" to pay for it.  In other words, the opposite of stimulus to pay for it.

                      I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the idea that it will still be a small net stimulus if the makeup of the deficit reduction to pay for it is not as good as the makeup of this plan. but the net effect will be very, very tiny if anything (and that's best-case scenario, which is probably unrealistic since most of it is tax cuts to be paid for by lower spending which is likely to be negative on the economy).

            •  Yet Obama Signed it Into Law (1+ / 0-)
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              You claim that the JOBS Act Obama signed, which makes securities fraud legal, isn't the JOBS Act Obama wanted.

              This begs the question why did he sign the "make fraud legal" JOBS Bill instead of vetoing it, with a statment that he was vetoing it because it would only make fraud legal and do nothing to increase jobs?

              At the end of the day, he's responsible for what he does.  And he should not have signed the "make fraud legal" JOBS Bill into law.        

  •  Only 10:40 PDT and already Mitt's up to the normal (6+ / 0-)

    daily limit for outrageous lies from a Republican. I hope he's stretched his lying muscles or he's going to get a cramp.

    All my sig lines are hand-crafted by demented elves living in my skull.

    by ontheleftcoast on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:43:31 AM PDT

  •  Guess those 2001 & 2003 Tax Cuts (5+ / 0-)
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    ferg, Aquarius40, Gorette, JeffW, satrap

    just need a LITTLE more time to work- before we have 100% employment and everybody is independently wealthy?  Oh, and less regulation is unnecessary too since corporations are always able and willing to "police" themselves.  We all used to accuse McCain of a would be "Bush 3rd Term" but in retrospect I think that Romney is the actual heir to that particular title.

    •  75% of the Bush tax cuts accrued to the wkg/middle (1+ / 0-)
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      That is a  fact.

      Another fact is that, had it not been for those tax cuts, the after-tax median wage would have decreased even more than it has over the past 12 years.

      One more point.

      Today, the 10-year bond is trading at a yield of 1.45%.

      1.45% for 10-year paper!!!

      Why are we even talking about deficits?

      It behooves the Dems to extend the tax cuts for another five years, and extend them before the election.

      The Dems should also propose a PERMANENT incremental increase of 2K in the Earned Income Tax Credit.

      It would be the responsible thing to do.

      Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project.

      by PatriciaVa on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:54:11 AM PDT

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  •  What sort of astute businessman doesn't know (5+ / 0-)

    that we are in a recession until 14 months after it started.

    Ann Richards on how to be a good Republican: You have to be against all government programs, but expect Social Security checks on time.

    by shoeless on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:44:03 AM PDT

  •  Sadly, the problem is with the (7+ / 0-)

    people who do the interviewing who either don't have  knowledge of recent economic history or do know but don't ask because it doesn't fit the chosen narrative of the people who pay them.  

    Proud Democrat since 1960.

    by Lying eyes on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:44:03 AM PDT

  •  Mittens (2+ / 0-)
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    On Jobs: The record speaks clearly: What happened to not only jobs but the free market capitalism of reaganomics as to investing in economic growth  and with the bush tax cuts especially to the wealthy, i.e. job creators, not too mention except for the handful the mitt hires to run his campaigns, rest depends on volunteers, that job creator hasn't produced in years let alone those at bain, even the Olympics, those jobs are always there if hosting.

    And then to regulations: Again very clear, under new capitalism businesses are supposed to regulate themselves, look at all that happened when the tepub congresses had both houses and a tepub president and the regulators, literally in bed for some of them, not doing even what's already on the books as to their jobs.

    Need more be said!!!

    Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

    by jimstaro on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:44:11 AM PDT

  •  Gallup tracking poll (0+ / 0-)

    Romney is not 1pt ahead, with Obama at 45% approval. Yesterday Obama was 3pts agaid with 47% approval. Romney is now +1 in the tracking polls, for the first time in about a week I think. Don't know if it means anything.

  •  They Are Turning Cart Wheels On CNBC.... (6+ / 0-)

    Positively giddy w/ joy over the jobs report.  I can't even bear to go to FOX for a quick look see.

    Now the MSM will jump in, predicting gloom & doom for Obama.  I expect them to call the election by noon today.

    Just the thought of the smile on Chuck Todd's face makes me ill.  I'm going to go outside & pull weeds in the rain.  

    I have to do something.  

  •  That picture (1+ / 0-)
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    screams calm, steady, presidential material.

    More Democrats? Better Democrats? Fewer Tea Partiers? Get all three with Trevor Thomas (MI-03)!

    by ScottyUrb on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:49:50 AM PDT

    •  That smile is very Trump (1+ / 0-)
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      In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'y a aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il y a toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

      by blue aardvark on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:59:51 AM PDT

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    •  HEH! Looks loony to me. Did that guy (1+ / 0-)
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      just escape from prison or what?

      "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

      by Gorette on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 11:08:04 AM PDT

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  •  Romney is a pusillanimous pleonexic solipsist. (2+ / 0-)
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    Gorette, JeffW

    And, yes, I have been helping my grandson with some spelling bee words recently. Isn't education grand! (Translation into ordinary grandfatherly English: Romney is cowardly, greedy, and self-centered.)

    Liberals think the glass is half-full. Conservatives think the glass is theirs.

    by dewtx on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:51:36 AM PDT

  •  Anyone know when new polls are coming? (0+ / 0-)

    A month ago, after disappointing jobs numbers, Obama took a hit in the polls. I wonder if that will happen again. Of course it may have had someting to do with Romney getting a bump after Santorum and Gingrich dropped out too.

  •  They like to think{?} (0+ / 0-)

    That the private sector will do their bidding in 'job creator' land if they gain all the power again, worked well before, now didn't it, in reverse under the bush and tepub congresses I would say, even with their two wars of choice!!

    Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

    by jimstaro on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:52:00 AM PDT

  •  Unfortunately (5+ / 0-)

    A lot of americans are so ignorant that they will buy into this venal asshole's version of the economy. I often notice that the talking heads of all political stripes give the public way too much credit for their general knowlege and analytic abilities in regards to government, the economy, basic history and geography, etc...Most possess little working knowledge, and have no sense of the more subtle nuances of issues. If you don't believe me, just do a little experiment and ask average people at work simple questions like who their senators and house reps are, what the federal reserve is, or ask them to point out places on an unlabeled map. It is embarassing.

    Just another day in Oceania.

    by drshatterhand on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:52:55 AM PDT

  •  Not 54 months; 59 months (7+ / 0-)

    The credit markets seized up in July 2007. Around the time that 2 large hedge funds of Bear Stearns went bankrupt. That's when the crisis really started.

      The only thing Romney got right is that the crisis is still with us.
       And if Europe goes down, it will come back with a vengence.

    Callate o despertaras la izquirda! - protest sign in Spain

    by gjohnsit on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:54:49 AM PDT

  •  Mitt does meet one requirement (1+ / 0-)
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    for being President ... he can do basic math. I don't know if Dubya could have figured out that it was 40 months since Obama's inauguration.

    But if this is representative of his level of business acumen, then it was pure luck that Bain ever made a dime.

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'y a aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il y a toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

    by blue aardvark on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:55:20 AM PDT

  •  It's time to tell it like it is... (8+ / 0-)

    This is coming from a former Republican...

    The fascist thugs who control the Republican Party these days are straight up TRAITORS, and Romney is now officially their ringleader.

    The single best thing that people like Mitt Romney could do to make America stronger is confess their sins and give back every red cent they have systemically stolen from working Americans for decades.

    So long as voters continue to reward systemic corruption and authoritarian ideals, then America doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of maintaining the high standard of living and quality of life for the other 99% of the American people.

    "We see things not as they are, but as we are." - John Milton

    by Jasonhouse on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:56:30 AM PDT

  •  Bush policies.......steroids....... (1+ / 0-)
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    'nuff said

  •  Is it just me, or is Mitt nose _actually growing_? (0+ / 0-)
  •  So what you're telling me, W. Mitt, is that (1+ / 0-)
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    Mr MadAsHell

    McCain suspended his campaign for no good reason?  Because according to you there was no crisis at the time.

    Another question:  how the actual fuck did you run a company like Bain being as flat-line ignorant as you obviously are?

    I'd like to see your long-form EEG, please.

    "Mitt. Not Even Once."

    by here4tehbeer on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:59:22 AM PDT

  •  Obama is in a tight spot (1+ / 0-)
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    The jobs report and continued slide into oblivion of the market is a weak spot for the Republicans to keep picking at, regardless of how much of it is his fault.

    There really isn't a good convincing response to spit out. He either does this, which is keep shifting the blame back to the fading memory of the Bush administration, shifts the blame to Congress, or ... there really isn't another option. Both of the viable courses of action involve having to acknowledge that the economy is not really getting better, and the economy being in the toilet is Romney's only hope at victory.

    Meanwhile the Facebook IPO disaster and the billions of dollars lost by JP Morgan only draw attention to the fact that four years down the road nobody has done anything to reign in the financial industry.

    Not really sure how they are going to spin this that doesn't look weak in the face of increased finger pointing.

  •  More lies. Nothing more (1+ / 0-)
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    Nothing less. Oh, and Money.

    It is starting to get quite harmful and damaging to what is left of intelligent political discourse in the United States.  I am really ashamed of the way this Republican primary and now the general election is being conducted.

    Lies and Money.  That's all.  Lies and Money.

  •  "We should be well into a very robust recovery by (5+ / 0-)

    now."--Mitt Romney.
    And we most likely would be if not for the efforts of Republicans in Congress to make sure that Obama is a one-term president.  Mitt, it's parasites like you, Mitch McConell, and John Boehner, who are more than happy to tank the U.S. economy and then keep it submerged in order to regain total political power for their decrepit party, that are to blame for our malaise.  You are nothing but a bunch of tics and mosquitos sucking us dry.

    And, by the way, +69,000 still looks a helluva better than -750,000.

  •  also/too, BC is now mitten's new BFF (0+ / 0-)

    "Show up. Pay attention. Tell the truth. And don't be attached to the results." -- Angeles Arrien

    by Sybil Liberty on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 11:09:02 AM PDT

  •  I truly hate (3+ / 0-)
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    jeopardydd, JeffW, investorb

    this lying, stuttering, soulless, polygamous-heritaged, dangerous psychopath.

  •  Anybody see HuffPost's take on the job's news? (0+ / 0-)

    why not flip over for a moment and check out our friends.

    Fuck Big Brother...from now on, WE'RE watching.

    by franklyn on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 11:11:19 AM PDT

  •  Green Growth, still blocked by special interests (3+ / 0-)
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    yet another liberal, JeffW, organicus

    With their 'climate change parrots' new meme's, not to mention the no 'job creator' investments of reaganomics!!

    Greener Economy Could Generate 15 to 60 mil. Additional Jobs Globally

    And for each of those the spin off jobs created, especially if these were paid according to real capitalism ideology of sharing in the fruits of ones labor, would be astronomical in numbers, especially in the poorer countries!!

    Transition to green economy 'could yield up to 60m jobs'
    31 May, 2012 - The transformation to a greener economy could generate 15 to 60 million additional jobs globally over the next two decades and lift tens of millions of workers out of poverty, according to a new report led by the Green Jobs Initiative.

    The study "Working towards sustainable development: Opportunities for decent work and social inclusion in a green economysays that these gains will depend on whether the right set of policies are put in place.

    "The current development model has proven to be inefficient and unsustainable, not only for the environment, but for economies and societies as well", said ILO Director-General Juan Somavia. "We urgently need to move to a sustainable development path with a coherent set of policies with people and the planet at the centre".

    "The forthcoming "Rio+20" United Nations conference will be a crucial moment to make sure decent work and social inclusion are integral parts of any future development strategy", he added.

    Achim Steiner, Executive Director of the UN Environment Programme (UNEP), said: "This report comes on the eve of World Environment Day on 5 June under the theme Green Economy: Does it Include You?".

    "The findings underline that it can include millions more people in terms of overcoming poverty and delivering improved livelihoods for this and future generations. It is a positive message of opportunity in a troubled world of challenges that we are relaying to capital cities across the globe as leaders prepare and plan for the Rio+20 Summit," he added.  read more>>>

    Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

    by jimstaro on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 11:13:43 AM PDT

  •  Doesn't everyone know that unemployment (3+ / 0-)

    invariably spikes whenever a scary un-American black Muslim Kenyan communist far-left radical wealth-redistributing rich-hating socialist Democrat takes office?

    I think I read it in Econ 666.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 11:16:19 AM PDT

  •  Tagg you're Mitt (0+ / 0-)

    and I call liar, liar pants on fire

    Seeking Awareness and Truth for all Americans

    by The Sheeping of America on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 11:17:24 AM PDT

  •  Its official... (1+ / 0-)
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    Republicans have completely Etch-a-Sketched Bush out of existence.

  •  We *should* be in a more robust recovery (3+ / 0-)
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    Dillonfence, jeopardydd, organicus

    And had we had a decent stimulus, and not lost so many public sector jobs, we probably would be.

    from a bright young conservative: “I’m watching my first GOP debate…and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!”

    by Catte Nappe on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 11:20:08 AM PDT

  •  yes and then it was Econ for the Kenyan Socialist (0+ / 0-)

    I think I sold that textbook

    Seeking Awareness and Truth for all Americans

    by The Sheeping of America on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 11:20:37 AM PDT

  •  the problem (1+ / 0-)
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    lies about how long we've been in a crises aside, Romney is fundamentally correct that we have been in a crises for a very long time.

    That's also obvious to just about anybody, which means that it's hard for the President to counter, even though there are a variety of completely legitimate excuses.

  •  The one thing to remember: (0+ / 0-)

    In 2008, things got so bad that America voted for a black Democrat over a war hero Republican.  

    Conservatives need to realize that their Silent Moral Majority is neither silent, nor moral, nor a majority.

    by nominalize on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 11:22:02 AM PDT

  •  I have zero confidence ... (2+ / 0-)
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    bartcopfan, coffejoe

    That the America voter can think this far back. Romney says these ridiculous things because he and his team knows most voters will uncritically accept this version of history. Just look at the polls.

  •  Bu$hcuts caused recession, rMoney "haircut" (0+ / 0-)

    won't make we 99% look "right" to the money royals in their "quiet rooms."

    Love the word Romnesia to describe his lying etch a sketchiness
    .    And yes tv should have an alarm bell followed by sock it to me exposure --- the moment the sMitten repeat another outright lie.   But the hosts NEED to get them on show for interviews and fear being shunned.  

    Bain owns big share of ClearChannel all propaganda radio and Fox sued for the right to lie on air to "entertain."

    I'm a Womb-American --- and there really is a war on Wombans.  If they are in my womb, they are violating my constitutional protection against search -- especially based on sex discrimination.  Latest is thought police bill Rs did in house yesterday -- to threaten jail for doctors unless they violate Dr/patient privacy to swear I didn't abort based on sex of fetus.    Camel nose intent as tool to prevent reproductive choice.

    I wouldn't last long but I'd ask Willard why GRANDPA's definition of marriage was polygamy -- but Mitt calls 1man/1woman "traditional".      Much Bible marriage was plural.
    Mormon prophecy was strongly based on plural marriage.

    Better watch out or he'll ban coffee and booze to save us from ourselves, so we have more cash to "save" for retirement funds, so there will be more money in those trust funds when he loots other people's earned savings/benefits trust ---- to further enrich himself.

    We're already bald --- elect Mitt and they'll have to
    "cut brush" by just cutting all pretense and scalping us.

    De fund + de bunk = de EXIT--->>>>>

    by Neon Mama on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 11:25:45 AM PDT

  •  Who cares...its been long enough... (1+ / 0-)
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    and its getting to the point where no one cares who is to blame. All they know is that the current economic approach under Obama (after a lot of hostage taking from across the aisle) - a bunch of tax breaks, public sector austerity, and interest rate management - isn't getting it done. If this keeps up, it will be an Anyone but Obama atmosphere and we'll vote back in the very policies that laid the groundwork for this mess.

  •  Maybe a real journalist could ask: (4+ / 0-)
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    "Mr Romney, how does what you propose for the economy differ from President Bush's policies?"

    Of course, we'd need a real journalist first.

    Conservatives need to realize that their Silent Moral Majority is neither silent, nor moral, nor a majority.

    by nominalize on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 11:28:25 AM PDT

  •  Can anyone remember the last time ... (1+ / 0-)
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    ... Romney spoke an honest statement? I can't recall.

    "It does not require many words to speak the truth." -- Chief Joseph, native American leader (1840-1904)

    by highfive on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 11:29:44 AM PDT

  •  He has no choice but to use 40 months... (0+ / 0-)

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    -We need Healthcare Reform... but i'm selfish, I Need Healthcare reform-

    by JPax on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 11:38:05 AM PDT

  •  Look, if we are gonna get our collective panties (1+ / 0-)
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    in a twist each and every time mitbott or a surrogate lies about this or that, well, its gonna be a long summer.

    Fact is, the economy may be slowing at exactly the point in time the gop wish for it to slow, based on their job killing, stimulus killing efforts. And no, America will NOT contemplate whether the gop is treasonous. Move on.

    I had a premonition this week. We lose in November. Ill for sure be skewered for speaking this outloud, but hey, it just might happen. Furthermore, my concern is not based on medias desire for a horserace, although that will have a small effect on voter mindset. Nah, just a nagging feeling combined with a soft economy.

    Sadly, the voters do not and will not see the gop as cheering against America. Visit a few rw sites today. They are gleeful that the economy is weakening.

    In the end, we will get exactly what we deserve.

    Mitt Romney deserves a lot of credit for creating Mitt Romney.

    by A Runner on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 11:41:03 AM PDT

  •  I'm convinced Mitt isn't even a politician. (0+ / 0-)

    Common wisdom is that the Governorship in Mass was a convenient stepping stone to this POTUS run.  He really doesn't display an aptitude for either campaigning (he sucks at it and it's a mystery why his handlers, who have experience at this, are making such a hash of it) or policy.  Bill Clinton eats and sleeps policy and Pres. Obama can match him at it.  I believe Romney wants to be President and he's used to being able to buy what he wants, but he'll
    be a like pig with a violin if he makes it to the White House. He's dangerously suggestible and will be a disaster for the country.

  •  I like that one, Romnesia. (2+ / 0-)
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    I'm going to have to steal that one for further use.  

  •  It Wasn't Bush's Fault!!! (0+ / 0-)

    Bush had a Democrat-led Congress don'tcha know!  (Rolls eyes).  

    Thanks for nuthin' and go f&#;k yourself! - Uncle Shoehorn Motto

    by antonrobb on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 12:09:35 PM PDT

  •  Fixing facts around policy. I've heard that (0+ / 0-)

    before.  I've heard that 9/11 was Clinton's fault.  I've heard that the housing bubble was caused by Barney Frank.  I've heard that the Financial Crisis was caused by democrats taking control of Congress in 2006.

    I've heard all these things repeated ad infinitum, so many times those that repeat have lost the fact that they are lies and have now ingrained them as truths.

    Where are you, journalists?  Do you need your own Batsignal to come out?

    "There's been a little complication with my complication"

    by dash888 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 12:18:49 PM PDT

  •  Romney's Energy Loan Hypocrisy Continues (0+ / 0-)

    When Romney was Governor of Massachusetts, "the state handed out $4.5 million in loans to two firms run by his campaign donors that have since defaulted, leaving taxpayers holding the bag." Romney lured one of the companies to Massachusetts by offering a direct loan from the state and his Administration bragged about using government loans to attract business.

    It is a terrible thing to see and have no vision. ~ Helen Keller

    by Pam from Calif on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 12:19:13 PM PDT

  •  "Romnesia"--NICE!! (0+ / 0-)

    "Push the button, Max!" Jack Lemmon as Professor Fate, The Great Race

    by bartcopfan on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 12:23:30 PM PDT

  •  Why the fuck does Mitt want to be president? (2+ / 0-)
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    Every day he tells the country that the president can't create jobs but as a private businessman he did create jobs.  So why all this political farting around, if he's really interested in creating jobs, according to his own logic, shouldn't he go back to Bain Capital and resume creating  jobs?

    •  Republicans hate government (1+ / 0-)
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      so why do they want government jobs?  Good question!  I think it's to be as destructive as they can be.  That's why POS Romney wants the job.  Not to do any good but to make  sure the maximum badness is done.

      "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

      by noofsh on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 01:39:59 PM PDT

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  •  The economy does not begin/end on Inauguration Day (0+ / 0-)

    It's a GOP talking point.  You have to stop framing these issues with Republican talking points.

    Inauguration Day sets the start date for the Presidential term.  Not the economy! The date has nothing to do with the economy.  The economy keeps moving no matter who is in office and it was in free fall with the trailing not leading but trailing indicator being unemployment.

  •  Yeah I am so sure we will recover if that POS (0+ / 0-)

    Romney is elected.  

    If we do recover then I think it's because corporations are purposely sandbagging Obama by not creating jobs.  They wouldn't do that ... would they?

    "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

    by noofsh on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 01:38:37 PM PDT

  •  Mr. 47th-in-job-growth strikes again (0+ / 0-)

    A couple of days ago Mittens said his putrid job growth record while he was Governor was because "he inherited a recession". That was hilarious because (a) every Governor in the nation was dealing with the same economy so claiming you came in 47th because of a bad economy is ridiculous, and (b) the recession Romney was referring to had ENDED 14 months BEFORE he took office and what he actually inherited was a recovery which he entirely screwed up.

    My God, the Obama campaign should pound this guy with his own horrible record and his ridiculously lame explanantions.

  •  Hi My Name is Mitt Romney (0+ / 0-)

    And, if I don't like the truth, I'll just make up 2 or 3 things I do like and flip flop between the lies.  

  •  I think the crisis Romney refers to is the (0+ / 0-)

    fact that he has been unemployed for the past 4 years. At least this is the crisis he should be referring to.

    H'mm. I'm not terribly into this, anymore.

    by Knarfc on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 06:31:56 PM PDT

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