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For all those that thought the late Libyan dictator, Mummar Qaddafi was some sort of anti-imperialist hero, I would like to point out that still another way in which he collaborated with the imperialist has been revealed in the breaking news about how the US and Israel under both Bush and Obama hatched up the Stuxnet computer virus so as to conduct cyberwar against Iran. From the Ars Technica piece Confirmed: US and Israel created Stuxnet, lost control of it, we have:

That program, first authorized by George W. Bush, worked well enough to provide a digital map of Natanz and its industrial control hardware. Soon, US national labs were testing different bits of the plan to sabotage Natanz (apparently without knowing what the work was for) using similar centrifuges that had come from Libya's Qadaffi regime. When the coders found the right sets of commands to literally shake the centrifuges apart, they knew that Stuxnet could work.
So there you have it. To make Stuxnet work, they had to test on the same type of systems the Iranians had. Without this support from Qaddafi, this attack on Iran, code named Olympic Games, may not have been possible.
 

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  •  Tip Jar (2+ / 0-)
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    Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

    by Clay Claiborne on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 06:22:23 PM PDT

  •  this news will further convince future dictators (1+ / 0-)
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    that the US is never to be trusted & negotiated with.

    •  Why? He got what he wanted from US. He created (2+ / 0-)
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      Clay Claiborne, TarantinoDork

      his own problems in 2011, US had nothing to do with them.

    •  Indeed (0+ / 0-)

      Bomb the hell out of crazy dictators who have started cooperating with us, but don't touch our most deadly foes. Daddy Gaddafi was a psycho evil clown, but on the list of threats to the US interests, he was way behind Iran and Syria.

      •  What U.S. interests would that be, relative to the (2+ / 0-)
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        99%?

        "The Global War on Terror is a justification for U.S. Imperialism. It must be stopped."

        by BigAlinWashSt on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:23:07 PM PDT

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        •  Oh, please (0+ / 0-)

          I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.

          •  It is a pertinent question (1+ / 0-)
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            Blowback: The Cost and Consequences of American Foreign Policy

            American foreign-policy makers are exquisitely attuned to the rise of a government, or a movement that might take power, that will not lie down and happily become an American client state, that will not look upon the free market or the privatization of the world known as "globalization" as the highest good, that will not change its laws to favour foreign investment, that will not be unconcerned about the effects of foreign investment upon the welfare of its own people, that will not produce primarily for export, that will not allow asbestos, banned pesticides and other products restricted in the developed world to be dumped onto their people, that will not easily tolerate the International Monetary Fund or the World Trade Organization inflicting a scorched-earth policy upon the country's social services or standard of living, that will not allow an American or NATO military installation upon its soil . . . [10]  

            No matter how small, how poor, or how far away a nation is, it still poses a threat in the eyes of the American foreign policy elite if is likely to fall under the above-mentioned.  Therefore, given the proper pretext, any such "bad examples" must be reduced to basket cases (like Khomeini in Iran, Qaddafi in Libya), or, where feasible, simply overthrown (like Allende in Chile, the Sandinistas in Nicaragua); failing that, life has to be made impossible for these renegades, as is the case with Cuba, still.  These effects are achieved either through direct U.S. action, such as trade sanctions and military assaults, or through covert operations, like state-sponsored terrorism, propaganda/censorship and rigged elections (see Perverting Elections and U.S. Government Assassination Plots under Appendix A for some examples).  In any case, the U.S. feels it cannot simply let these foreign governments rise or fall on their own merits, for their very existence establishes a dangerous precedent that lead to a "domino effect." [11]

  •  You make is sound like Gaddafi was complicit (7+ / 0-)

    in supplying the centrifuges for the express purpose of using them to engineer the Stuxnet virus. The seizure of the Libyan centrifuges occurred in October 2003 by a US naval operation. Some had disappeared in transit so either Gaddafi was cheated or a third party obtained them according to IEAE officials. The US confiscated all that were accounted for other than the ones that went missing en route to Libya.

    Stuxnet was discovered in 2010 so in order for Gaddafi to be complicit, Stuxnet and "Olympic Games" would have had to be started in 2003.

    The fact that the US and Israel used the confiscated centrifuges from Libya to test Stuxnet doesn't mean that Gaddafi was involved at all. The title of your diary is misleading.

    •  Some links to sources please (0+ / 0-)

      Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

      by Clay Claiborne on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 07:08:42 PM PDT

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      •  I figured you'd want them so I looked up a few and (1+ / 0-)
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        posted.

      •  Here's another that is fairly good (2+ / 0-)
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        Libyan Nuclear Weapons

        A US-led naval operation in October 2003 interdicted a shipment of uranium-enrichment components bound for Libya. US officials say the seizure may have helped prompt Libya to make its pledge to dismantle weapons of mass destruction. The US-led naval operation resulted in the seizure of thousands of uranium-centrifuge parts, bound for Libya, from a German-registered freighter in the Mediterranean. The vessel was seized based on intelligence information that it was carrying nuclear components, and that the interdiction was a major success for the Bush administration's Proliferation Security Initiative, the PSI. Begun in early 2003, the PSI involves the United States and more than a dozen other countries working together to prevent the illicit shipment by sea, land or air of weapons of mass destruction material that might end up in the hands of terrorist groups or rogue states. The source of the centrifuge parts bound for Libya has not been revealed.

        On 19 December 2003 Libya agreed to destroy all of its chemical, nuclear, and biological weapons. The surprise announcement followed nine months of secret talks between Libyan, American, and British officials. Libya agreed to abide by the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, and to allow for immediate inspections and monitoring.
        ...
        On 27 January 2004 the United States airlifted out of Libya components of the nuclear weapons program that country agreed to give up. The White House hailed Libya for its cooperation and said its good faith in dismantling weapons will be reciprocated. The announcement was made several hours after the U-S transport plane had landed in the central state of Tennessee carrying some 25 metric tons of Libyan weapons program components including centrifuge parts, uranium, and sensitive documentation. The airlift was the most dramatic move since Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi concluded an agreement 19 December 2003 with the United States and Britain, to give up weapons of mass destruction programs in a bid to end two decades of international isolation and US sanctions.

        •  "that [Libya] agreed to give up" (0+ / 0-)

          That is the key phrase in your quote above.

          The US-led naval operation resulted in the seizure of thousands of ... parts
          This is not what they tested on, they needed whole, working centrifuges.
          The White House hailed Libya for its cooperation and said its good faith in dismantling weapons
          That's the normal procedure, you dismantle and destroy the violating weapons, you don't normally turn them over intact to another state.

          But Libya did more than turn over "centrifuge parts, uranium, and sensitive documentation" as cite above, from the link I gave above the list was "two complete second-generation centrifuges from Pakistan, and additional centrifuge parts, equipment, and documentation." Very well, why did they turn over just "two complete second-generation centrifuges from Pakistan", Only 2 (he was reported to have thousands) and otherwise just centrifuge parts?
           

          Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

          by Clay Claiborne on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 07:39:41 PM PDT

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          •  What kind of game are you playing? (3+ / 0-)

            Here's the IAEA report 28 May 2004 which shows they made a complete inspection.

            Implementation of the NPT Safeguards Agreement of the Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
            B. Verification Activities and Findings
            12. On 29 December 2003, Libya provided the Agency a brief (4-page) “time line” describing a series of past nuclear related activities that had not been previously reported to the Agency. Since then the Agency has undertaken to confirm, as far as technically possible, all aspects of the “time line” provided by Libya and has sought more detailed declarations and supporting documents in some areas.
            13. Libyan authorities have provided prompt, unhindered access to all locations requested by the Agency and to all relevant equipment and material declared to be in Libya. The Agency has held extensive discussions with senior Libyan nuclear authorities in an attempt to gain a complete understanding of Libya’s past nuclear activities. Libyan authorities have usually provided clear answers to Agency questions and have provided some supplementary declarations. However, Libyan authorities have not always been able to provide supporting documents to augment their short December 2003 “time line”. Lack of supporting documents limits the Agency’s ability to fully confirm the completeness of Libya’s declarations in some areas, as explained further below.
            14. Nearly all of the technology involved in Libya’s past nuclear activities was obtained from foreign sources, often through intermediaries. Full verification of Libya’s declarations requires investigation of the foreign sources and intermediaries. To this end, the Agency has been in contact with relevant governments and companies with a view to corroborating information received from Libya.
            Gaddafi turned over everything well prior to "Olympic Games" and shows there is absolutely no connection between the two.
    •  Further details about seizure and confiscation (2+ / 0-)
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      of equipment to be used for Gaddafi's nuclear enrichment program.

      Proliferation Security Initiative

      Actual case of intervention: the BBC China (October 4, 2003)

      The fight against the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and their delivery systems involves actions at several levels.
      ...
      On the basis of information supplied by the American government, Germany ordered the vessel to make a stop in Taranto, Italy, where American and British forces seized components for centrifuge machines that could be used for uranium enrichment aimed at producing a nuclear weapon. This interception made it possible to reveal the existence of Dr. Abdul Qadeer Qhan’s vast network of nuclear technology and contributed to Libya’s suspension of its covert programme.

      Libya’s Gas Centrifuge Procurement: Much Remains Undiscovered

      by David Albright and Corey Hinderstein

      March 1, 2004

      Many questions remain about the suppliers and intermediaries involved in outfitting Libya's gas centrifuge program, aimed at making highly enriched uranium (HEU) for nuclear weapons. Missing from the public debate and often at the governmental level is an understanding of the full-range of suppliers of centrifuge components and other equipment needed to create a centrifuge plant able to make HEU.
      ...

      Table 1: List of Centrifuge Components Seized on the BBC China

    •  When did the US Navy invade Libya in 2003? (0+ / 0-)

      You say the Navy 'seized them', like they were stolen, like Qaddafi had no choice.

      According to this report, the centrifuges were turned over to the US as part of the dis-armament deal. Normally you just destroy the offending materials while monitors watch. We now know why the US wanted to take them intact. Why did Qaddafi agree to turn them over that way?

      Olympic Games started in 2006.

      Still shilling for a dead tyrant, I see.

      Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

      by Clay Claiborne on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 07:25:53 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Read my posts (2+ / 0-)
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        http://www.dailykos.com/...

        A US-led naval operation in October 2003 interdicted a shipment of uranium-enrichment components bound for Libya. US officials say the seizure may have helped prompt Libya to make its pledge to dismantle weapons of mass destruction. The US-led naval operation resulted in the seizure of thousands of uranium-centrifuge parts, bound for Libya, from a German-registered freighter in the Mediterranean. The vessel was seized based on intelligence information that it was carrying nuclear components, and that the interdiction was a major success for the Bush administration's Proliferation Security Initiative, the PSI.
        Still shilling for a dead tyrant, I see.
        That's a bullshit comment. I have only posted to correct misleading propaganda such as this diary.

        Gaddafi sucked up to the US and UK to get his country off sanctions. When he did as they demanded, those countries groveled at his feet to get some lucrative contracts. You've seen the pictures.

        Libya had billions of oil dinars to spend and they all wanted a piece of the action.

  •  Gaddafi essentially squealed on AQ Khan network... (5+ / 0-)

    in order to slip from under the sanctions. Our own mass-murdering informant.

    Giving up his Pakistani-brand centrifuges in order to get the West to get rid of the economic sanctions and arms embargo that had been chipping away at his strength for ten years.

    Upon being free of those sanctions, and now America's supposed "ally" in the war on terror, he proceeded to use his oil billions to upgrade his army's weapons, hire thousands of foreign mercenaries, and otherwise ready his regime to put down any uprising that might be in the offing

    So for all the loonies...from Castro to Cynthia McKinnis, who hold up Gaddafi as having been some kind of misunderstood anti-imperialist hero...he happily sold out his "comrades" in Pakistan, Pyongyang, Tehran, and Damascus so he could save his own skin and continue repressing his own people.

    He was a butcher, who served his own twisted interests, and no one else's.

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    by TarantinoDork on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 07:42:42 PM PDT

    •  You give the US so little credit in fingering Khan (2+ / 0-)
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      The CIA were watching and it is because of them that the ship carrying the centrifuge parts were confiscated. They also confirmed at this time Khan's involvement. Gaddafi didn't have to finger him. More confirmation came when Libya turned over all the information pursuant to the IAEA's request.

      But, Gaddafi was an informant. An informant on al Qaeda.

      Libya 'gives US tips on al-Qaeda'
      12 January, 2003

      Libya is exchanging intelligence about the al-Qaeda network with the United States, Colonel Muammar Gaddafi has said.
      ...
      Colonel Gaddafi also reiterated his opposition to a possible US-led war against Iraq.

      He said that while he had never agreed with Saddam Hussein, the Iraqi leader did not constitute a threat.

      "We don't know who poses a greater threat - the American president or Saddam Hussein," he said.

      "[Saddam Hussein] opened his country for full inspections. What more can he do? Now it is a fight to the finish."

      Similar to dehumanization and stereotyping, the propaganda technique of demonizing the enemy aims at evoking a very negative emotion by associating the “enemy” or opposing group as evil, immoral, subhuman, or barbaric.
      ...mass-murdering informant
      ...hire thousands of foreign mercenaries,
      ...all the loonies
      ...sold out his "comrades"
      ...repressing his own people.
      ...was a butcher
      ...served his own twisted interests

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