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With the Scott Walker recall election in Wisconsin, along with the earlier recalls of state Senators last year, the fear of a democratic push back is growing amongst elites who want to hold on to their elected position.

Take this article from Politico:  

Recalled or not, all agreed on one thing: the process has become far too commonplace and should be reserved for only the most egregious cases involving accusations of corruption, malfeasance or criminal charges. Today, simply collecting enough petition signatures can trigger a recall, regardless of the reason....

With the nation’s latest recall contest set for Tuesday in Wisconsin, politicians who have endured recalls say it’s such a disruptive, divisive and unsettling ordeal that there should be a much higher bar for forcing elected officials to face voters before their terms are up.

The process hits hard both at the office and at home, jeopardizing the ability to govern and legislate, while also hurting private family life, according to those who have faced recalls.

"All" those that agreed seemed to exclude, oh say, the over 900,000 Wisconsinites who signed a petition to recall Walker.

And just look at the nauseatingly sympathetic towards elite politicians; while it's true that politicians are in fact human beings, their job systematically impacts many more human beings who, judging by the single digit approval ratings of almost every aspect of politics, chances are they aren't doing a good job.

Seriously where's the mom that works three jobs and is going in to recall a politician that cut her benefits? It's not fantasy, it was the drive that got a massive amount of Wisconsinites to petition to recall walker.

We have to be vigilante about this sort of thing, if Scott Walker wins he will most definitely make harder to recall politicians and so will every governor in the country.  

Originally posted to CartoonDiablo on Sat Jun 02, 2012 at 05:20 PM PDT.

Also republished by Badger State Progressive, ClassWarfare Newsletter: WallStreet VS Working Class Global Occupy movement, and Progressive Hippie.

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  •  "Become Far Too Commonplace" Because Crooked (32+ / 0-)

    rampaging pols have become far too commonplace.

    They'd better leave recalls untouched.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sat Jun 02, 2012 at 05:28:11 PM PDT

  •  Didn't you get the memo? (4+ / 0-)
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    Ice Blue, glorificus, Odysseus, AoT

    If the people you are depending on don't deliver the product you thought you paid for...

    Don't use them next time.

    The capitalist system has a solution for Democracy.  Democracy isn't working for it any more, so they'll simply change providers to Fascism.

    /snark

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Sat Jun 02, 2012 at 05:51:24 PM PDT

  •  Of course there's a backlash. (12+ / 0-)

    They're afraid the voters are going to hold them up to what they promised not the whims of their big money friends.  

    Never meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer.--Bruce Graham

    by Ice Blue on Sat Jun 02, 2012 at 05:55:00 PM PDT

  •  "I like being able to fire people" (10+ / 0-)

    Seems to me if anyone should be an at will employee it is the politicians.

  •  Funny, I don't recall any rethugs complaining (13+ / 0-)

    about the Recall Process when California's Governor, Gray Davis, felt the wrath of The Terminator.  

    "It took us a couple of days because I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak." President Barack Obama 3/24/09

    by sfcouple on Sat Jun 02, 2012 at 06:12:54 PM PDT

    •  Davis' problem (6+ / 0-)

      was that he was Democrat and the Republican were pissed he was reelected and their candidate failed. So they spent multi-millions to spread lies about Davis to force a recall that cost CA a whole lot of millions for no reason except they didn't like Davis.

      Of course, CA didn't really have the money to spare for a special recall election, but the Republicans didn't care. They weren't paying for it!

      I reject your reality and substitute my own - Adam Savage

      by woolibaar on Sat Jun 02, 2012 at 06:23:05 PM PDT

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      •  I was living in California at the time and was (2+ / 0-)
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        Quicklund, bluestatedem84

        thoroughly disgusted with Arnold and his goper pals putting us through that recall for nothing.  Davis was a good and decent Governor, did a lot for education and was in favor of a ban on assault rifles.  He got blamed for an economic decline that he had zero control over...and the irony is that Arnold didn't do much of anything to improve California.  

        "It took us a couple of days because I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak." President Barack Obama 3/24/09

        by sfcouple on Sat Jun 02, 2012 at 07:58:18 PM PDT

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        •  "in favor of a ban on assault rifles" (2+ / 0-)
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          Utahrd, KVoimakas

          Do us all a favor: Before you go declaiming stuff like that (see:Cleveland School, Stockton, and where Purdy got that AK, and where he didn't and why) , make sure you know what the difference between an "assault RIFLE" and an "assault WEAPON" is, what that ban actually was, why it was put forth, and please develop the skills to recognize wedge politics when they come from EITHER side, not just the gops.
          California's wrongheaded "assault weapon" (read: scary black gun with plastic stock) ban bought the state however many years of Richard Pombo, Abramoff crony and a study in corruption, in Congress.

          "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State ..."- Vermont Constitution Chapter 1, Article 16

          by kestrel9000 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 at 03:54:26 AM PDT

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          •  kestrel: I know the difference (0+ / 0-)

            between an assault rifle and assault weapon, I've used them serving in the Army from 65-68 and I think they should all be banned.  

            I do have the skill to recognize wedge politics but once I left the Army  I was against all types of automatic weapons with extra large clips---they are only designed to kill people.  

            I'm not against guns, heck my wife and I live in a small Montana town where guns are a way of life.  I have a Remington 12 Gauge very handy for protection against either two or four legged creatures, but I don't need a frigging assault rife.

            And you can do me a favor: don't presume to lecture me on the difference between a rifle and a weapon.  I don't need someone like you to tell me about firearms,  I have probably forgotten more than you will ever know.  

            "It took us a couple of days because I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak." President Barack Obama 3/24/09

            by sfcouple on Sun Jun 03, 2012 at 02:37:03 PM PDT

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            •  OKay (0+ / 0-)

              I didn't mean to insult you, but you definitely have my attention.

              I think they should all be banned.

              I don't.
              I seek to keep rights I now have. You, on the other hand, seem to seek to take away the rights of others.
              So then.
              What is the difference between an assault rifle and an assault weapon?

              "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State ..."- Vermont Constitution Chapter 1, Article 16

              by kestrel9000 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 at 05:37:26 PM PDT

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              •  Assault rifles are also assault weapons, (1+ / 0-)
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                kestrel9000

                not all assault weapons are rifles.  I am also aware that there is confusion, controversy, and misuse of these terms.  I also know all too well that the US Military uses its own definitions and jargon in the description of various weapon systems and tactics.  I generally use the above terms to mean any fully automatic firearm and I too apologize for my sloppy use of these words.  

                I don't have an easy answer for your other questions as I am all in favor of our second amendment rights.  But at some point I think we need to draw the line somewhere in our violent prone society---other countries seem to get by without the profusion of automatic weapons.  

                It's going to take someone a lot smarter than me to figure out a solution to our violence and profusion of weapons, without taking away our right to own firearms.  I simply do not have an answer.  

                We moved to a very small mountain town in Montana for the security, peace, quiet, and safety that accompanies rural life.  Yes, the use of firearms in Montana is well established but I have to tell you I feel very very safe when walking the streets/roads around here and never have to worry if our doors are locked.  Our biggest safety issue here is living in the same area as black and grizzly bears---we're in their country and they are far more of a threat to us than those walking around on two feet.  

                Geez, the other day we were not home when the UPS came by with a delivery for us.  No problem...he just opened up our front door, put the package inside our home and left.  No muss, no fuss, no problem.  

                 

                "It took us a couple of days because I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak." President Barack Obama 3/24/09

                by sfcouple on Sun Jun 03, 2012 at 08:38:43 PM PDT

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                •  OK, here's the thing with that first part. (1+ / 0-)
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                  sfcouple

                  An "assault RIFLE" is an NFA-regulated automatic weapon which is real, real hard to possess legally. You have to have  aClass II license and those are expensive and require exhaustive background checks. So, in effect, they ARE banned for the overwhelming majority of us.

                  "Ain't no "profusion of automatic weapons" in America.

                  Now, "assault WEAPON": that's like "partial-birth abortion." It's a political term with no objective meaning. It's a firearm on a list that Diane Feinstein decided looks too scary for you and me.

                  "Assault" is a crime. Therefore "assault weapon" is a "crime weapon."

                  That's like saying a Model A is a "crime car" because Bonnie and Clyde drove one.

                  Here's another thing: you make a need-based argument back there a ways. Needs have nothing to do with rights. Rights predicated on needs are not rights; they're privileges granted.

                  The way you describe Montana fits Vermont. Firearms are a tool and  a fact of life. And we have bear issues here too.  :)

                  "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State ..."- Vermont Constitution Chapter 1, Article 16

                  by kestrel9000 on Mon Jun 04, 2012 at 03:16:22 AM PDT

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                  •  In my former life, during the Mesozoic Era, (0+ / 0-)

                    I took a Semantics class from S.I. Hayakawa at San Francisco State College---he by the way was a far better Professor than Senator.  And I think Hayakawa would say we are just using different words to describe the same thing.  

                    I do understand your viewpoint and agree that the use of some of these words are designed to be inflammatory and misleading.  I just feel that there are some weapons that do not belong in the hands of us mere civilians.  Just like I don't think armor piercing bullets should be sold to just anyone.  

                    Now, how would I draft legislation to limit the sale of certain weapons and ammunition?  I don't have a clue.  And based upon the complicated and convoluted language in establishing new laws I'm not sure I would trust anything coming out of DC.  

                    "It took us a couple of days because I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak." President Barack Obama 3/24/09

                    by sfcouple on Mon Jun 04, 2012 at 04:53:18 PM PDT

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                    •  Hayakawa? (1+ / 0-)
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                      KVoimakas

                      How many times did you have to wake him up? :)
                      Want a bullet that'll go through most body armor? How about just about anything in .22 LR?
                      Armor piercing bullets. Another anti-gun trope where the hype you hear is several decimal places removed from the truth.
                      And I'm not a "mere" anything.

                      "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State ..."- Vermont Constitution Chapter 1, Article 16

                      by kestrel9000 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 04:56:15 AM PDT

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                      •  Well, let me say this: my son is a cop (0+ / 0-)

                        in California, was involved in a horrible shooting incident in the small town of Minkler in 2010 and I'll take his word and opinion over yours any time, any day.  He is an experienced LEO who has been in harm's way on more than one occasion and I don't want him, or other officers, killed because some idiot feels he has the constitutional right to own a grenade launcher or wants to mount a 50 caliber machine gun in the bed of his pickup truck.  

                        I have no problem with people owning firearms, but the extreme to what people like you and your NRA followers want is absurd in our so called civilized society.  Like all things political in our country no one ever wants to compromise on a solution.  You feel you are correct, everyone else is wrong---end of argument.  

                        Yes, I own firearms but never have and never will be a member of the NRA and will typically vote against those they recommend.  I take the NRA ratings,  turn them upside down and support those on the bottom of their list.

                        You sound as if you have zero experience in the military or in the use of firearms.  If a 0.22 LR will penetrate body armor then why have body armor at all?  Give me a break , you and your NRA extremists will never be satisfied until we all own any and all weapons employed by the Military.  

                        "It took us a couple of days because I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak." President Barack Obama 3/24/09

                        by sfcouple on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 08:38:22 AM PDT

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                        •  Look it up. (2+ / 0-)
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                          KVoimakas, rockhound

                          Yes, a 22 LR as well as MOST rifle rounds will pierce most body armor.  Body armor is primarily intended to stop handgun rounds.

                          And no one has a grenade launcher or a .50 in their truck.
                          but never mind that:

                          Well, let me say this: my son is a cop (0+ / 0-)
                          in California, was involved in a horrible shooting incident in the small town of Minkler in 2010
                          OH. MY. GOD.

                          My parents live maybe a mile from there. My father was a LEO for years but is retired now. that day he had to abandon his truck and come back for it later. As a young teenager, i rode my bike to Minkler for sodas and candy all the time. I remember the incident to which you refer QUITE well.
                          What agency? Reedley PD? Fresno County S.O?

                          Also

                          you and your NRA extremists will never be satisfied until we all own any and all weapons employed by the Military
                          .  

                          This shows you do not know me, and are also unfortunately given to stereotype.

                          That's a bigoted statement, just as it would be if you said, "you gay types won't be satisfied until you can commit sodomy in front of little children in the town square."

                          Come ON.

                          I am SURE I have no more love for the NRA than you do. Maybe less, because it is because of them I have to hear that kind of shit every time I stand up for my right to self defense.

                          "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State ..."- Vermont Constitution Chapter 1, Article 16

                          by kestrel9000 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 08:48:57 AM PDT

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                        •  Body armor will stop (2+ / 0-)
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                          kestrel9000, rockhound

                          a large amount of pistol rounds. Depending on the classification of the armor (II, III, etc) and if it has a rifle plate or not.

                          As to the NRA comments, apparently you don't know the history of this user who has repeatedly stated "fuck the NRA."

                          Republicans cause more damage than guns ever will. Share Our Wealth

                          by KVoimakas on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 08:57:16 AM PDT

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                          •  Two comments: (0+ / 0-)

                            First I never ever said in writing or when speaking, "fuck the NRA."  Never happened, never once.  So, if anyone thinks differently please provide evidence.  I'm waiting.  

                            Second Part:  Reedley PD, his partner, Officer Bejar, was killed.  My son was awarded a medal of honor for saving the life of a wounded Fresno County Sheriff.

                            Oh, and by the way: my son was wearing a bullet proof vest at the time.  

                            Oh, and a second by the way: a standard 0.22 LR doesn't can't generate enough velocity to penetrate  body armor, I don't even think a 0.22 mag can.  Now, I'm a retired chemist and not a weapon expert but I'm going on what my son says and I trust him more than I trust total strangers.  

                            "It took us a couple of days because I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak." President Barack Obama 3/24/09

                            by sfcouple on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 09:43:39 AM PDT

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                          •  no no no no no (1+ / 0-)
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                            rockhound

                            I have said "Fuck the NRA". Many, many times. I despise them.  
                            Easy there, skippy. Yes, I know Ofc. Bejar was killed; he was taken off life support after being declared brain dead. We're all friends here, you needn't be hostile. My father worked for Reedley PD briefly, his name is Ed Garcia, same as mine. You might ask about him.

                            When you compare a .22lr to a .500 S&W Mag it seems like nothing but a .22 can penetrate body armor when a .500 can't and vice versa, it just depends on distance to target and overall size of the round. Smaller is not better in the case of body armor it is defeated easier by a smaller 36gr. round than larger a 400+gr. round, it does make sense. The manufacturers will even tell you a .22 from a rifle at 25yds will more than likely penetrate but it will stop a .45 at the same distance go figure.
                            A friend of mine tested this out, got the standard police issue vest (I don't know anything about the stuff), took it out in the backyard, andfired a couple shots from a .22LR into it, and they went right through.And just to prove it wasn't an ineffective vest, it stopped 9mm and .45 ACP rounds.
                            Wyatt Earp is said to be a pioneer in the silk body armor. He wore as a fashion, very thick Chinese made silk vests. It is commonly believed they saved his life in some of his gun fights. Type1, 2 or 3 body armor will not stop a 22 cal or a knife or ice pick, unless it is directed into a trauma plate.

                            "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State ..."- Vermont Constitution Chapter 1, Article 16

                            by kestrel9000 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 11:07:13 AM PDT

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                          •  Kestrel: I'm sorry for sounding off here, (2+ / 0-)
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                            kestrel9000, rockhound

                            you have my apology for my unfounded rudeness.

                            The jerk who killed Officer Behar was aiming for the officer's heads.  He even had designed a special firing range through a hedge on his property.  He could see officers on one side of the hedge but they thought the shooter couldn't see them---he was pretty evil.

                            My son and Bejar were out of their jurisdiction picking up a disabled police cruiser when they heard gun shots.  They responded as did dozens of other LEOs from around the area.

                            I'm petty busy today but will respond later, just wanted you to know I'm sorry for my misunderstanding.....

                            "It took us a couple of days because I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak." President Barack Obama 3/24/09

                            by sfcouple on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 03:15:23 PM PDT

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                          •  :) (1+ / 0-)
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                            sfcouple

                            Nothing to apologize for. People not getting me until they get to know me is the story of my life. :)

                            peace

                            "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State ..."- Vermont Constitution Chapter 1, Article 16

                            by kestrel9000 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 03:22:17 PM PDT

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                          •  Kvoimakas: if you are talking about me then you (0+ / 0-)

                            are really wrong.  I've never ever said "fuck the NRA" in print or when speaking.  Never happened, and if you think I have then man up and show some proof.....I'm sitting here with baited (bated) breath waiting for your response.  

                            Show me the proof.....of course, you can't so I don''t expect to hear from you.

                            "It took us a couple of days because I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak." President Barack Obama 3/24/09

                            by sfcouple on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 09:47:12 AM PDT

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                          •  He's not. (1+ / 0-)
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                            rockhound

                            He meant me.

                            Show me the proof.....of course, you can't so I don''t expect to hear from you.
                            Can we dial back the hostility? There's really no need for it. We're not your enemies.

                            "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State ..."- Vermont Constitution Chapter 1, Article 16

                            by kestrel9000 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 11:17:00 AM PDT

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                          •  Kestrel: I misunderstood and you have my (2+ / 0-)
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                            kestrel9000, rockhound

                            apology for not engaging my brain before typing a response.  

                            I'm busy today but will respond with more later, I just wanted you to know I'm sorry.....

                            "It took us a couple of days because I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak." President Barack Obama 3/24/09

                            by sfcouple on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 03:09:14 PM PDT

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                          •  Please don't be sorry (2+ / 0-)
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                            rockhound, sfcouple

                            This is common shit. I'm just glad you're listening.
                            My dad tells me Liles' sister Teresa was employed by a LEO agency, he knew a bunch of those peripherally connected people. Ugly shit.

                            "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State ..."- Vermont Constitution Chapter 1, Article 16

                            by kestrel9000 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 03:11:49 PM PDT

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                •  Typo (0+ / 0-)

                  Class III

                  "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State ..."- Vermont Constitution Chapter 1, Article 16

                  by kestrel9000 on Mon Jun 04, 2012 at 07:00:55 AM PDT

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            •  As I read your response (0+ / 0-)

              I note that you didn't answer any of the specific data points I raised.

              "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State ..."- Vermont Constitution Chapter 1, Article 16

              by kestrel9000 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 at 05:38:31 PM PDT

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        •  He got screwed by Enron (2+ / 0-)
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          kestrel9000, sfcouple

          He took the blame for the horrible bullshit fraud that Enron put over on CA.

          There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

          by AoT on Sun Jun 03, 2012 at 07:53:08 AM PDT

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  •  yes, this! (6+ / 0-)
    Today, simply collecting enough petition signatures can trigger a recall, regardless of the reason
    if enough people think someone should be recalled then there's a good reason, regardless of what Politico thinks. And who the blank is Politico to matter?
  •  Not sure how I feel about them (1+ / 0-)
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    rcnewton

    On one hand I love recalls in that you can quickly get a rogue political agent like Walker out of town quicker than the normal 4 years.

    On the other hand, how are we going to feel if a similary aggressive campaign is funded by the Koch's to recall Barrett and we are right back in the same spot 2 years from now.

    Is that how we want government to be? A Series of privately funded recall elections where no one can ever get anything done?

    •  We have some reasonable restrictions in WI (8+ / 0-)

      that I feel will be sufficient to prevent overuse of recalls.

      First, signatures have to equal 25% of the votes for governor last election in the district, and they have to be collected in 60 days, no rollover. This means that recalls are no mean feat even in the best of times.

      Second, no petition can be filed with the GAB until an official has served for a full year. This means that only 4-year offices are effectively subject to recall, and probably only once per term even if the first recall is successful. Note that if an official survives a recall election, he is not recallable for the remainder of the term.

      Third, it's not like Walker and his cronies haven't gotten stuff done. While the petitions were going around, the Fitzgeralds were busy with a "laser-focused job session" (words to avoid hereafter in this state) that had less to do with jobs than Act 10 had to do with the budget. They were, to put it nicely, advancing the conservative agenda and not pandering to special interests such as the middle class and women.

      So in short, if the recall laws are not too lax (this means you, California), and recalls are understood as requiring some abuse of the public trust, they should stay. We've got automatic removal and impeachment for all-out crimes, but we need recalls for abuses that, thanks to legal ambiguity, oversight, or outright loopholes, do not carry criminal penalties.

      Male, 21, -4.75/-6.92, born and raised TN-05, now WI-02, unapologetic supporter of Obama and Occupy. Tammy Baldwin for Senate and Recall Walker!

      by fearlessfred14 on Sat Jun 02, 2012 at 06:41:49 PM PDT

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      •  Recall (1+ / 0-)
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        rcnewton

        I am not in Wisconsin, but do you see a Koch funded recall of Barrett starting ASAP if Barret wins on Tuesday?

        They seem like the type obsessed with revenge, and I can't see them taking a blow like this laying down if it happens.

        •  When Barrett wins, he will not (9+ / 0-)

          Be eligible for recall until June 2013. He will be filling the remainder of Walker's term and will be up for reelection in 2014. I doubt they will want to throw away more money.

          As for recalls being too easy, Politico appears to be under the impression that all states have laws similar to Wisconsin's.  They don't.  Most states do not have any recall at all. Some states require allegations of malfeasance.  It's really not that easy.

          And songs be heard, instead of sighs.

          by Fiddler On A Hot Tin Roof on Sat Jun 02, 2012 at 07:04:18 PM PDT

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        •  Probably not (6+ / 0-)

          If they had really been serious about recall, they would have gone for Vinehout already, and probably started circulating before the primary. People backed by the mining company already tried to get a petition in on Jauch, but the 25% requirement was too much for them. Barrett would have to do something serious for them to bother with a recall that would be in the same year as the next general election for governor, and I really can't see him doing that. They'll already have a tough time defending their remaining puppets like Kasich, Snyder, and Rick Scott who simply aren't of Walker's caliber as candidates.

          Male, 21, -4.75/-6.92, born and raised TN-05, now WI-02, unapologetic supporter of Obama and Occupy. Tammy Baldwin for Senate and Recall Walker!

          by fearlessfred14 on Sat Jun 02, 2012 at 07:04:27 PM PDT

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    •  Easier said than done (3+ / 0-)
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      Odysseus, teklanika, bluestatedem84

      I have spent hundreds of hours and well over $1500 (unemployed) in the past 16 months. The personal overhead to do a recall is intense. I watched the local GOP try to recall my state senator. They are too lazy to actually do these recalls.

      What is needed in WI is better control over petition review and restrictions on professional pay-for-signature collectors. Otherwise ... go ahead and try, GOP!

    •  Attempts to recall dems during all of this (0+ / 0-)

      have fallen pathetically short.

      when I see a republican on tv, I always think of Monty Python: "Shut your festering gob you tit! Your type makes me puke!"

      by bunsk on Sun Jun 03, 2012 at 07:52:20 AM PDT

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  •  I've noticed (8+ / 0-)

    that recalls don't seem all that commonplace if the elected officials aren't massively corrupt and incompetent.

    These guys whining about recalls is almost as ridiculous as they are.

    Thanks for posting!
    Peace!

    Equality. It's for everybody.

    by SueM1121 on Sat Jun 02, 2012 at 06:41:17 PM PDT

  •  Ahh...the refrain builds! Walker brought that up (8+ / 0-)

    in Thursday night's "debate."  The Corporatists like the Koch bros must be upset; they thought they had a full 4 years to push their agenda and cash in on Wisconsin's resources.  Of course, THEY want recalls eliminated!

    "I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in 'A,' 'B,' 'C,' and 'D.' Just who do they think they are?" Barry Goldwater

    by ranton on Sat Jun 02, 2012 at 06:55:03 PM PDT

  •  The People Decide (6+ / 0-)

    when and where a Recall is Appropriate.

    People get Fired from their Jobs Every Day.
    It's part of that Free Market thing.

    Absolutely NO Reason WHY Politicians should Be
    any Different than Joe or Jane Average.

    According to the Constitution, They Work For US.

    Since they Work for US, We ge to Fire THEM.

    On Giving Advice: Smart People Don't Need It and Stupid People Don't Listen

    by Brian76239 on Sat Jun 02, 2012 at 07:41:36 PM PDT

  •  Tipped, recced and republished to (0+ / 0-)

    I started with nothing and still have most of it left. - Seasick Steve

    by ruleoflaw on Sun Jun 03, 2012 at 07:03:03 AM PDT

  •  Facts - duh! (0+ / 0-)

      It took a couple of minutes for me to determine that 2 of these guys were recalled in 1995, 1 in 2002 and Kapanke last year.
        HUH?   Why didn't Politico go to more recent guys, like Pearce / AZ...not interested.
        The point being is when anyone decides to write an article that only makes headlines based on the "baffle with bullshit"  and assume that the reader is too lazy to fact check an article reduces it to politicizing a non-problem.

         In KS - Kobash said there were 200+ voter fraud cases as a reason for stricter Voter ID legislation, but when fact checked (by NYT), only 1 case in 2 decades.

          While it is important to post information here, shouldn't we be pointing out the BS over on the other site?

         

  •  We're A Corrupt Society (0+ / 0-)

    ..and we gotta start somewhere to fixing what's wrong. Walker, Pearce, et al, are a good start.

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