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Unlike the people profiled in What's the Matter with Kansas, by Thomas Frank, Kossacks are not fooled by Republican Party propaganda into not voting in their own interests. We are, it seems, fooled by our own internal propaganda into not acting in our own interests. For all of the great discussions of the evils of the GOP (and also the evils of anti-Progressive Democrats), for all the support for better candidates, Occupy Wall Street, and other important initiatives, we uniformly take our eyes off the prize in self-congratulation about how Progressive and enlightened we are.

What prize is that, you might be wondering? Get Out The Vote. Actually winning elections in the worst climate of voter suppression since the end of legal Jim Crow.

How do I know that, you might demand? The response to a Diary Entry about the Obama campaign's Web site for countering voter suppression, GottaVote.org.

It doesn't matter how Progressive you may personally be if you don't vote, and more importantly, ask others to vote, help others to vote, educate others to vote, in the worst case tell others how they can vote when the Republican Party has pulled out every dirty trick they know to prevent them.

Supporting Progressive ideas and Progressive candidates, or even Democrats ;-> as the lesser evil is essential. But it comes to nothing if we lose elections we could have won easily. Al Gore, for example, was not a totally inspiring candidate, and ran an exceedingly lackluster campaign. Nevertheless, he had the voters on the day, and would have won if Republicans had not stolen Florida in five different ways, with the additional gift of the Butterfly Ballot fiasco. Kerry, likewise, with the edge for Bush being voter suppression in Ohio. (link to PDF)

Really?

Maybe you think I am being too harsh on Kossacks. After all, GOTV is a constant theme here. We know about the importance of the Ground Game. We volunteer with campaigns, and send in our contributions.

But what about this?

A week ago, LeftOfYou posted a Diary about helping our fellow citizens vote using the GottaVote.org Web site

Sun May 20, 2012 at 09:51 AM PDT
Action: GOTV - Gottavote.org+*
by LeftOfYou for Better Democrats
It got two (2) tips, 4 votes, and 0 comments (I counted them. Twice.) after the Tip Jar. This is the only Diary Entry on all of dKos that mentions the GottaVote site, one of the most important resources in this political cycle.

I observe constantly that almost everybody gets really excited about their favorite issue (Mine is global education for ending poverty), but that few look further to what needs to be done overall, and what most needs to be done right now this minute. I am glad that people are pursuing all of the Progressive issues of our time, but I respectfully request that you take some time from your favorite issue and direct it to specific actions aimed at winning this seasons elections. Not just for President, not just for Congress, but for every office where the winners get to implement policies that can and do take us forward or backward. Union-busting, the War on Women, tax increases on the poor in the Ryan budget, immigration...You know the litany.

Voter suppression is the most important issue in this election, because it is no ordinary issue. For ordinary issues of policy, programs, and the taxes to pay for them, the basic remedy for bad legislation is to support better candidates who can bring in better bills in the next session of whichever legislature and sign them into law. We do need to do that, to repeal all of the partisan restrictions on voting and voter registration pushed through Republican legislatures, to prevent election officials purging legitimate voters from the rolls with the thin Dog Whistle excuse of preventing voter fraud, to take back our elections and with them our country.

But voter suppression is different from issues. The only ways to counter voter suppression are in the courts and with strong, even aggressive GOTV. And the only way to do strong GOTV is to have the knowledge at your fingertips. Not general knowledge that you should vote, that you need to register, that you might need ID when you go to the polls. Specific knowledge that you can walk prospective voters all the way through.

  • What does each state require?
  • What is the cutoff date for registration?
  • Where can you register?
  • How do you register, and what documents do you need?
  • What documents do you need to bring to the polls?
  • When and where can you vote early?
  • What rules have been changed?
  • Are there restrictions on absentee ballots?
  • What if you get sent to the wrong polling place?
  • What additional obstacles are they putting in place, such as moving polling places and cutting their number in Black areas of town?
  • What lies are they telling?
  • Are the police involved?

That's without getting into the evils of unauditable electronic voting systems, or the widespread practice of putting the oldest and least reliable equipment in inadequate numbers in minority districts.

So when LeftOfYou (What a snob! ;-> ) offered help, you passed it by. Maybe you, personally, never even saw the offer. I admit that I didn't, and only found out about it when I did a search before starting a diary on the subject myself. You can't look at everything on dKos, can you? No, I agree, you can't read everything, but yes, you can look at all of the headlines on the main page and the Diaries page, and dip in to what looks interesting and important. You didn't dip into the most important problem facing us. OK, neither did I, last week. But I'm here to say that I am sorry for what I did wrong, and to remedy it.

So I am going to repeat part of last week's Diary Entry:

GOP programs for vote suppression not seen since the demise of de jure Jim Crow, are making it harder than ever to turn out younger voters who qualify to vote under the new restrictions. How do we do that?  Well, there's an app for that.  

It's not an app, exactly but its a pretty nifty online tool that Obama For America is providing at Gottavote.org. With this tool, the younger voters in your life (anyone, for that matter) can find everything needed to traverse the thickets of Republican voter suppression laws and get prepared to show up at the polls in November registered and armed with every necessary credential.

Here is a message to those fine young people who lie within your social circle:  

    You gotta vote in November and you have to make sure, right now, that you are registered and have the proper ID to vote in the state you vote in. To make sure, take time now and go to Gottavote.org.  Find your state and follow your checklist. Send this to others. Gottavote.org needs to go viral.

Share this post with the young folks you know among your Facebook friends, etc. Gottavote.org is an enormously important resource for the American electorate and the more voters that use it, the better, especially younger ones you may be able to influence to become participants in their own democracy. Add your own encouraging words. For elderly voters you may know, I have a different recommendation on how to use Gottavote.org, to discuss in a later post. Please broadcast this on your social networks. Encourage your friends to send it on to their contemporaries. It is difficult to engage people about party politics, and the more so to get them to do so with others. But the more we try the more it will happen.  Share the word about Gottavote.org.

Now, the question remains: Do Kossacks care about their own interests enough to do something about it?

Easy enough to find out. We'll see, to begin with, whether this message gets any traction. You know the drill. For starters, tip, rec, vote in the Poll, comment, and tell your friends. Tweet, Facebook, Google+, whatever you use. I'll be watching. Tell us what you are doing to drive traffic to GottaVote.org. Do your friends know about this? Are they telling those who need to know? Is it in your local newspapers? On radio and TV? Does your local campaign organization know about this? Student organizations? Minority organizations? Women's organizations? Organizations for the elderly? Ask, and offer your help.

This is war. You can tell because Republicans are all saying, Who, us? We aren't making war on women, minorities, immigrants, the young, the old, and especially the poor! No, no, we like, we love women, minorities, etc. Let us show you how much we love them with our calculated and studied campaigns of insults and our plans to cut programs for them, raise taxes on them, destroy the public schools, and most pernicious of all, prevent them from voting.

From my Code Whistle glossary:

Big Tent
     You can come in, but you have to stand over there, and cheer whenever we give the signal.
The Right is justifiably proud of being able to stir up its base to anger, hatred, fear, and loathing and turn their Useful Idiots out in numbers. But they would be less proud of their ability to inspire anger and the rest in those they attack if they did not think that they can suppress our side, or convince us to be helpless before their onslaughts. We need to demonstrate that they cannot fool almost enough of the people almost enough of the time, and make up the difference in dirty tricks. Then we have to do it again, and again, and again...

They only admit that it is war when we fight back. It is not enough for you to fight at dKos or alone in the voting booth. You must recruit fighters wherever and whenever you can.

These are the times that try men's [sic, but that was then] souls. The Summer Soldier and the Sunshine Patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country, but he that stands it now deserves the love and thanks of men and women.—Thomas Paine
Pass it on. Let us know what you did in the comments here, so that we can send love and thanks your way, on behalf of millions.

Originally posted to Mokurai on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:00 AM PDT.

Also republished by Political Language and Messaging.

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    Busting the Dog Whistle code.

    by Mokurai on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:00:05 AM PDT

  •  I'd suggest we start a Get Out The Result Campaign (19+ / 0-)

    The get out the vote campaign did squat.

    •  I'm torn here (45+ / 0-)

      your comment rightly points out the limitations of a GOTV strategy: too much focus on elections, the sense that once the vote is out the work is done, the reification of electoral politics over movement politics, and all that work that just ends with the election - the energy, the passion, etc.

      How to capture that and extend it?

      But at the same time...as a person with something of a "historical imagination" (h/t C Wright Mills) I am more than hesitant to downplay the importance of making sure everyone who is eligible has the opportunity to vote, given the current context of assault on voting rights.

      Still, you've given me much to think about in a far more serious manner than I was prepared to engage in this morning.  Thank you (?)

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:19:20 AM PDT

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      •  Now's Not the Moment for Education and Developmnt (62+ / 0-)

        From here till November GOTV is really the only game that matters. Motivational messaging obviously, but there's no time nor bandwidth for teaching, and virtually none for argumentation.

        Starting Nov. 7th though, we have to break with what the party's had us doing for the last several decades which has been to remain in final-sprint mode perpetually, falling in line and not speaking about anything that can't pass congress so as to avoid upsetting conservative moderates.

        From then thru primaries next time, progressives need to push messages and especially join party organizations and help create candidacies that the party has proven it is almost never going to do.

        But that's for later.

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:27:41 AM PDT

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        •  absolutely (49+ / 0-)
          From here till November GOTV is really the only game that matters.
          the rec list should be constantly full of action/candidate/GOTV diaries.

          Die with your boots on. If you're gonna try, well stick around. Gonna cry? Just move along. The truth of all predictions is always in your hands. - Iron Maiden

          by Cedwyn on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:33:00 AM PDT

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        •  agree (10+ / 0-)

          my opinions aren't always about immediate action.

          I was being a bit wistful (just read a great comment by shannika that used this term, it's just so....right) about the bigger picture.

          I'm happy to report that I still maintain the ability to multi-task: I can think about two related but different concepts at the same time and hold differing though related opinions about them.

          I hope that always remains true, but I understand ideological inflexibility does have a way of colonizing brain cells.

          ;^)

          Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

          by a gilas girl on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:35:46 AM PDT

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          •  Colonizing brain cells. (3+ / 0-)
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            Great line. I am imagining all the ways I can use that.

            Thank you.

          •  Some people can't work in parallel. (2+ / 0-)
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            For some folks, dinner with a side salad is too distracting. They'd rather take it as two separate courses. Whatever works for you is what you should go with.

            Personally, I am helping GOTV, but I keep telling people in my local Dem club that whatever we can build in terms of organizational infrastructure this year will make the 2014 midterms that much easier for us. So we are "boots on the ground" in the here and now, but we are also looking at ways of recruiting new membership and engaging voters in our community in a manner that will continue after the November election.

            If you can do it, there's no harm in driving the locomotive and laying the track at the same time, so long as you can coordinate the two to avoid a trainwreck.

            ---

        •  In particular GOT Latino V in Arizona and Colorado (18+ / 0-)

          These two states may give Obama the margin of victory in the Electoral College even if he looses every other contested state including Ohio, Florida, Wisconsin, etc.

          Look at this map and understand.

          For logistic and justice reasons I am going to focus on a GOT Latino V strategy in Arizona.  Arpaio be damned.

          Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action.

          by Shockwave on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:48:27 AM PDT

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          •  Ale old same old for me (8+ / 0-)

            My bit involves database work, in NM. We're not so safe as some would assume on the Presidential. And there's an open Senate seat to defend, too. No new laws on voting to contend with, though not for lack of trying by Tejana Susana.

            Same old same old here.

            There's something to be said for being a poll worker, too. Leads to a little AUTHORITY in the process, too.

            Grab all the joy you can. (exmearden 8/10/09)

            by Land of Enchantment on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 11:09:45 AM PDT

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            •  There are few things as rewarding (7+ / 0-)

              as working the polls at election day.

              The bitter truth of deep inequality has been disguised by an era of cheap imported goods and the anyone-can-make-it celebrity myth - Polly Toynbee

              by fladem on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 11:58:03 AM PDT

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              •  Having done that, I have to echo and promote it. (0+ / 0-)

                Being an election judge includes training and preparation that really focuses your mind on the importance of voter registration and the time left until the election.

                Experiencing what goes on at a polling location all the long day, as opposed to the usual 20 – 30 minutes, is a very good lesson in how the process works, what voters have problems with, what could be improved, etc .Action items, even if it is for the next election.

                I am thinking of things that could be done during the registration time to encourage people to register  and prepare them really well.

                See if a local election jurisdiction (city, county) would allow experienced election judges to set up advertised mock polling places at large venues (state, county fairs, sports events) where people who have never voted could find out what it's all about. Keep in mind their mission is technically to get eligible residents registered to vote. It's amazing how much fear people can attach to anything unknown - before the GOP messaging kicks in.

                The whole gamut of locating your polling place, id that is and is not required, election protection that will be in place, etc. can be addressed. Just being able to go in a booth and be shown an actual machine can overcome anxiety for some.

                The other anxiety I have run into in face to face discussions is fear of being able to understand the issues and make an informed decision. Some folks are that humble. I have even pointed out that  being registered to vote does not carry any punishment if you don't use it. :)

                 Simple materials addressing the anxiety and providing resources, ways to evaluate candidates, claims and ads, etc. give people the power of knowledge. I have told some that as a nurse I do a lot of teaching to people with all levels of intelligence on complicated disease management. And the majority are able to learn it.

                "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

                by Ginny in CO on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 03:06:07 PM PDT

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        •  damned straight... (2+ / 0-)
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          "holding feetz to firez" relegated to back-burnerz is mandatory

          for now

          "Show up. Pay attention. Tell the truth. And don't be attached to the results." -- Angeles Arrien

          by Sybil Liberty on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:50:36 AM PDT

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        •  It needs to be a two-pronged approach (14+ / 0-)

          1. Get Out The Vote
          2. Keep Them Voting In All Elections

          We saw in 2010 how people who voted for the first time in 2008 didn't understand the importance of voting when Obama wasn't on the ballot. We need a better job of follow up and follow through this time around and in 2014 (and beyond).

          Mitt Romney: the Etch-A-Sketch candidate in the era of YouTube

          by Cali Scribe on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 11:19:25 AM PDT

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          •  you forgot a middle prong (4+ / 0-)

            1.5 deliver on issues that matter to them deeply when you win majorities.

            without that prong, it becomes an exercise in haranguing voters. with it, steps 1 and 2 are much easier.

            •  With steps 1 and 2, 1.5 becomes possible.... (0+ / 0-)

              It will take years of GOTV to redress the
              damages done in the 2010 mid terms alone.

              While I think 'going local' is the best approach
              due to the fact that states and counties are
              typically the groups that handle all elections,
              some focus on the absolutely disgraceful low
              average voter participation, and some sort of
              responses or solutions should prove fruitful.
              Even if I am not so sure what that might be.

              It is not so 'sexy' as single issue activism, or electoral
              candidate advocacy, but in my limited experience, this
              is the most neglected avenue that costs the less, and
              could pay the greatest future dividends in progressive
              policy achievements towards the 'justice for all' we seek.

              And so of course, as this writer so aptly notices, it is almost
              completely ignored here until the last possible moment.
              As if it were an optional feature, a nice afterthought, rather
              than the essential structural foundation that all else is built upon.
              Thankfully, our duly elected president is not so afflicted.

              Of course, we must fight rear guard battles now,
              but I think our opponents, even now thrashing in
              their incredible shrinking demographic death throes,
              realize that this is the only tactic left in their arsenal
              to delay, for a short time, their inevitable demise.

              They aren't, and won't be ignoring GOTV, and will stop
              at nothing to obstruct and disenfranchise our voters.

              GOTV should have as much emphasis here as polling
              and election results do, if that is even remotely possible.
              It's own tab? User group? Distinct and separate community?
              I suppose it is up to all of us, and our individual priorities.

              Thanks for all of your efforts.

          •  Yes a goal of voting regularly and making voting (1+ / 0-)
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            a habit and priority especially for new voters.

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            by wishingwell on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 02:30:14 PM PDT

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        •  From the (6+ / 0-)

          Wisconsin Exit Polling:

          2008 18-29 % of the vote: 22%
          2010 18-29 % of the vote: 15%
          2012 recall 18-29% of the vote: 16%

          In poll after poll of registered voters youth turnout is down substantially from both 2004 and 2008.  Remember, this is not LIKELY voters it is registered voters. This is not about voter enthusiasm, it is about registration.

          There is a significant portion of the 18-29 vote that just isn't registered.  

          Obama is running about 2% ahead right now.  Expand the 18-29 share of the vote to the %'s in 2004 and 2008 and he is up by at least 5.

          This is literally life or death, and something I think everyone here could agree with.

          The bitter truth of deep inequality has been disguised by an era of cheap imported goods and the anyone-can-make-it celebrity myth - Polly Toynbee

          by fladem on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 11:55:36 AM PDT

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        •  I disagree. Elections are like roads (7+ / 0-)

          and bridges.

          You always have to maintain them, or they begin to fall apart, usually at the worst possible times. Same thing with party politics.

          One thing that the GOP did, some 25-35 years ago, was to plot a course, join forces with unsavory characters (Like fundie baptists and religious conservatives) and train, educate and do research. They never stopped doing that. In fact, that very effort (using entities like the Heritage Foundation and other RW policy creation groups) gave their candidates cover as elections neared. It continues to do so now.

          We don't have anything like that. IN fact, without some deeper, more thought out support and backup, simply crying, "Let's GOTV!" is like telling people to clap louder. That is simply all wet and quite possibly fucked up. Without a good, or even semi-OK reason WHY they should vote for our candidate, some is just as likely to vote against our candidate as for her/him. Simply aiming for GOTV alone is silly.

          Now, I can clap pretty loud, if you think that will help, but I suspect that it would be better to research why we got in our current predicament and deal with it as the election nears.

          What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

          by agnostic on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 12:16:54 PM PDT

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        •  I wish I had you enthusiasm (1+ / 0-)
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          Hell, I wish I had anyone's enthusiasm.

          The fuckers steal elections. And when they can't - they co-opt the results.

          And meanwhile -- the band plays on, marching directly for the cliff.

          It's enough for me to go looking for what's left of the radical leftists of the 60's.

          "The system's broken, man"

          Nearly 50 years later - It's still broken. And we're still paying the piper.

          ..and we sang dirges in the dark the day - Do you recall what was the feel, the day, the music died -- Don McLean

          by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 12:21:36 PM PDT

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          •  Which is why I've long-advocated ... (4+ / 0-)

            ... smart grassroots politics. Coordinated grassroots efforts are the only effective way to topple top-down power hierarchies. This is, repeatedly, a proven fact. When people - a la the Arab Spring, Civil Rights Movement, Indian nationalist movement, and American Revolution - work together, linking resources and abilities, powerful systems can be pulled down.

            The reason the system is unchanged in this country since the post-war era is that no viable, lasting people's movement has arisen to challenge it. Forget (for the purpose of discussion) about what's happening in Washington. Work at the local level to transform your community into the political success you seek. When that's done, link with other community efforts and go regional. Then transform your state, and then, eventually, the nation. Without that foundation work, any movement will founder when facing down established power. It's the reason Mao initially took his People's Army into the countryside, rather than trying to face down the Nationalists for control of the cities. It's the reason Dr. King worked for years in the south before ever marching to Washington. Building that solid grassroots infrastructure is what holds a movement together when the status quo powers eventually respond by trying to smash it.

            So getting discouraged is just a symptom of the current situation - the entrenched powers standing firm against movements that rise up quickly, but lack the solid foundation to endure long enough to bring about needed reform. Do the necessary grassroots foundation laying, and the game changes substantially.

            ---

            •  "Smart" is the magic word. Without it, zip happens (3+ / 0-)
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              I recently saw what was supposed to be a get out the vote effort by progressives with shining eyes. And what I think is no brain engaged behind them.

              The idea was to go to high school commencements with voter registration forms, getting a sort of access to the now or soon to be eighteen and eligible voters if registered. No tables. No identification that the people in civvies were an organized voter registration campaign, and nothing else.  A bunch of old white folks in civvies only without even the minor help of partisan ID, since Dems don't do immigration raids. the only thought about how to approach possibles was to wave forms and say "Would you like a voters' registration form for your graduate?" No second statement.

              This is important because the high schools in question have very large numbers of students from families whose first language is neither English nor even Spanish. Although the state election board supplied forms in languages other than English or Spanish, the volunteers didn't have any of them. Nor speak any of those languages. Didn't have forms or speak Spanish either.

              This last is important as, of course, the very first question on the form and in the minds of the GOTV folk was the question, 'are you a US citizen?" Not a question a family which may have one or more in irregular status or know someone who is, such as a guest at the graduation, wants to chat about with a stranger unidentified save for the waving of forms.

              It also developed that the people doing this GOTV had been chucked off the premises the prior day after supposedly getting the permission of the higher ups to be there but not getting it in writing to help them when the lower downs of the site chucked them out. They had also been encountered by police who ordered them to leave when walking through a nearbly shopping center waving forms, and accosting people standing in movie lines.

              And what they planned to do was get the forms filled out and then turn them in themselves, rather than providing forms, and hints of how to fill them out, and perhaps stamps by which the would be registrants would be encouraged to mail them themselves, the mailing system making sure that no one  other than them and the election board having access to the contents, and there being less doubt than might result from leaving them with the GOTV volunteers,  that the forms and the election board would actually encounter one another or instead be used for a more nefarious purpose.

              One minority volunteer also appeared, an experienced guy, and he ended up complaining to the leader of this enterprise that she was being condescending to him, and flat out refused to follow her game plan. Wonderful.

              Apparently three days of effort got them twelve filled out forms, or so it was said. It resulted in a leader sure that she had run a diligent and well informed GOTV and proud of herself,  with it on her resume, but not going to do more because twelve forms was not enough to call it a complete success. And those who hear the tale from her will also be told that GOTV was properly done, and need not be done again in the location and with the population in question. Not.

              It is not enough to be a shining eyed progressive. The brain to figure out what really has to be done to get people willing to fill out and file the forms, in the circumstances in which the would be voters find themselves, not the GOTVers think themselves to be in, and then to toddle off and vote on voting day, is what is required. And the execution of the plan, with trained workers, not a leader who is sure what she proposes is minimally legal and that's all that matters.

            •  Meanwhile, back at dustbowl ranch (1+ / 0-)
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              ..the climate catastrophe marches on.

              My gut tells me to fight, but my mind tells me to find my Zen and die with a modicum of decorum.

              You fight. I'm looking for a sailboat and a storm.

              I'd rather be a "Tree-hugger" than a "Planet-raper" and a Destroyer of Worlds -- But I'm funny that way. I want a living Earth, not just a living room.

              by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 02:25:12 PM PDT

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              •  I can totally relate to this APaSC, my mind is (1+ / 0-)

                often conflicted. So far my recurring conclusion is that we have a chance in this fight. Because?

                In Jesselyn Radack's diary yesterday on the virtual failure of American journalism compared to overseas sources,  quill linked to this analysis by Mark Feldstein ."A Muckraking Model: Investigative Reporting Cycles in American History"

                The essence is that American journalism has had 3 periods of the kind of effective writing that produced real results. 1760s and 70s,  1902 -12, and the 1960s and 70's. Important points for me:

                Investigative journalists were reformers, not revolutionaries.

                ...the investigative reporter provides policy makers with the opportunity to take corrective actions without changing the distribution of power.

                The overall purpose of investigative journalism is to expose abuse of power by speaking truth to power: the citizens, through the media.

                Interestingly, the first American period of investigative reporting in the 1760's and 70s, before and during the revolution, did involve some reporters writing for revolution, which did occur and changed the distribution of power quite thoroughly.

                Feldstein suggests a model extrapolated from:"two mutually reinforcing phenomena" (David Protess) that creates an era marked by significant progress in improving the society: a press that is producing a high volume of investigative journalism and has new technologies to distribute the expose, and a strong populist movement demanding the investigative reporting that then pushes the government entity responsible for change.

                We have the Internet with plenty of independent writing, and TV, greatly enhanced by the accessibility of information on the web, plus cell phones that have cameras and can access the web, FB, Twitter, etc. We have ows and the 99% movements.

                We have a chance to fight a non-violent revolution and return the distribution of power to where it belongs: We the People, Congress and an independent 4th estate.

                The outcome, good or bad, will ultimately lay the foundation for however many people, and how much habitable land, survive whatever economic and environmental collapses become inevitable.

                The planet will survive, in some form. My hope is that it is good enough for humanity to make the enormous transition successfully, and they actually try hard enough.

                So I have to challenge you. If you are honestly looking for a sailboat and a storm, how come you are hanging out here at DKos?

                You can always go back to looking in Nov ;)

                "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

                by Ginny in CO on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 04:25:48 PM PDT

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                •  I think I have a "man-crush" on Ms. Radack (1+ / 0-)
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                  She and a certain Front-pager who will be left unnamed have me all-atwitter when it comes to a "beautiful woman."

                  I have a friend from the way-back times who stumbled into some funds and a few sailboats and an open invitation to hug the coast in a single-hull, and another who I could convince to finally step-up and go who inherited more money than God, but I'll skip the ordeal.

                  I have unrequited responsibilities and a conscience.

                  Can't catch a Blue Marlin in blue-water and be happy if your mother is in the poorhouse. If you have a soul worth spitting at.

                  Now I'm wondering if this electronic conversation is worthy of public consumption, Ginny?

                  May I call you Ginny? It seems so forward here in the Internet age.

                  My take is that humanity will survive. At least the human genes and the sexual reproductive advanced primate parts. Civilization as we know it is probably toast.

                  Never been a Navy-man or in the merchant marines. But I watch the crabbers and the long-liners on the TeeVee machine between commercials..

                  Not really.

                  Drowning in the Pacific would be a perfectly decent way to die. I can read the wind and the swells and fool the fish.

                  The fuckers are killing all the fish.

                  I'd rather be a "Tree-hugger" than a "Planet-raper" and a Destroyer of Worlds -- But I'm funny that way. I want a living Earth, not just a living room.

                  by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 05:20:28 PM PDT

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                  •  Anthony, I much prefer Ginny to Virginia :) (2+ / 0-)

                    I happen to enjoy the side bar electronic conversations. Because most of them touch on shtuff that many of us are grappling with. Occasionally they produce a very useful concept that starts a productive reconsideration of the problem.

                    People can read or scroll on.

                    As far as the human race reproducing, our environmental toxins may well interfere.

                    Something about us keeps me preferring that future generations have a chance to look at all the mistakes and create a very decent post collapse civilization.

                    Meanwhile, I'm a long ways from a body of water suitable to your plan. So I work on the exit plan in a very leisurely way, keeping tabs on reality and what Kossacks are talking about, doing and ranting on.

                    Thanks for the conversation. Happy sailing.

                    "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

                    by Ginny in CO on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 06:07:29 PM PDT

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            •  Game Change? (0+ / 0-)

              Beltway insider penned a missive?

              I'll vote. Bring some others along for the ride. In my futile endeavor because there's nothing better to do and I still care.

              Grab a few votes for the party of small ideas but at least they're not Pat Roberson insane.

              I'll even try and convince them that their votes actually count.

              Which makes me a liar. Selling an agenda and a pipe-dream. Peddling Hope." The new smack, speed steroids with a get outta jail free card..

              This whore has it going on. She's not at all like that whore.

              Don't dip your dick in the cesspool. It's poison these days.

              I'd rather be a "Tree-hugger" than a "Planet-raper" and a Destroyer of Worlds -- But I'm funny that way. I want a living Earth, not just a living room.

              by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 03:41:51 PM PDT

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            •  perfect advice for OWS too (2+ / 0-)
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              If "Occupy" took your advice they might become what they desire to become. Well said.

              America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

              by cacamp on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 04:20:58 PM PDT

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            •  We are no-where near "critical-mass" (0+ / 0-)

              I'm old and tired and broke - It's up to you guys.

              Good-luck and I mean it.

              Get off your asses and do something or the party's over.

              No disrespect intended, but drum-circles 'aint gonna cut it.
              Otherwise Orwell wasn't just an author - he was a time-travelling prophet just writing history.

              Fix this -- Children. Or live it.

              I'd rather be a "Tree-hugger" than a "Planet-raper" and a Destroyer of Worlds -- But I'm funny that way. I want a living Earth, not just a living room.

              by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 05:38:48 PM PDT

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        •  Agree and disagree on what we have time for (2+ / 0-)
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          and how to prioritize it. For instance, how well do the voter registration efforts take into account how many potential new voters there are to register and really target getting to them. How specifically can they identify which voters are most at risk for being purged and develop the best ways to reach them?

          Limits to both those numbers and a large percentage of the states have deadlines for registration and verification which, once passed, take that off the plate.

          Meanwhile there is no reason to give up on good ideas that are showing results where folks have tried them. It's barely the middle of June. There are people who will start paying attention when the conventions and debates are going on. I would hope we are well prepared to hit them with some finely tuned ideas about 'how stupid was that?'.

          We are differently abled, and it's a good thing. Those who can do the innovation and development should not be discouraged from working on it.

          Catching purged voters before they fall through the window of time to be reinstated is clearly an upfront priority along with new voter registrations. The messaging and educating can go on up to the hour before the polls close.

          "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

          by Ginny in CO on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 02:02:35 PM PDT

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          •  Agreed Ginny, this is so important (2+ / 0-)
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            Catching purged voters before they fall through the window of time to be reinstated is clearly an upfront priority along with new voter registrations. The messaging and educating can go on up to the hour before the polls close
            Absolutely, that has a top and pressing priority that we can do ASAP.

            Follow PA Keystone Liberals on Twitter: @KeystoneLibs

            by wishingwell on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 02:35:55 PM PDT

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      •  These campaign come down to fighting to keep a (6+ / 0-)

        personality in office or electing another. Policy concerns become a distant thought.

        Our party passed TARP, passed and extension of the Bush Tax cuts and seems to be considering extending them again. We also seem to be heading in  Bowles-Simpson direction where we will see more deficit producing tax cuts and social cuts.

        So which side sucks more? I'll go to the booth. If my vote will keep a democrat from losing, I'll cast it. If my vote means they'll win by two votes, I won't.

        •  People's votes are sacred (9+ / 0-)

          they get to do with them what they wish.  I won't waste bandwidth telling people what they "should" do.

          I'll only talk about why I do what I do and how I hope they'll share some general aspect of my approach.

          Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

          by a gilas girl on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:37:33 AM PDT

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          •  Telling people what they "should" do (13+ / 0-)

            is still a far cry from coercing them to do it. So here's my own $.002:

            I think anyone on the left who doesn't vote for Democrats -- and who doesn't try to talk other people they know into voting for Democrats -- is shooting themselves in the foot. Because even if the Democratic Party is no longer the party of the Left in practice, it's still branded that way -- by both Republicans and (some) Democrats.

            Because of that branding, voting Democratic helps even when you're in a safely blue district, or even when your only Democratic choice is a blue dog. The more people who vote Democratic, nationwide, the more the country shows that we're ready to embrace progressive ideas.

            Pragmatically speaking, solid Democratic majorities may not be enough to get everything that we think is necessary; but it's far better than any possible alternative. And Democratic majorities give us something to work with. Nothing else does.

            Let us all have the strength to see the humanity in our enemies, and the courage to let them see the humanity in ourselves.

            by Nowhere Man on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:34:49 AM PDT

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        •  How do you know (7+ / 0-)
          If my vote will keep a democrat from losing, I'll cast it. If my vote means they'll win by two votes, I won't.
          ...before the results come in?
        •  of course you never know which it'll be (4+ / 0-)

          you can't know the results before they report the votes.

          So you'll have to decide beforehand...

          I added that "..." to indicate a pause for thinking about it.

        •  That's what a lot of Nader voters (14+ / 0-)

          thought in 2000. Hey, my vote won't actually be the deciding one, right?

          Right. Vote like your life depends on it, because it very well may. If not yours, someone else.

          All of the people who are now dead because of George Bush's invasion of Iraq would be alive today if Gore had gotten a few hundred more votes in Florida.

          •  You don't know that and you should be ashamed (4+ / 0-)
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            for insinuating that people voting their own conscience (which is still legal in America last I checked) are responsible in any way, shape or form for the lies, deceit and destruction under Bush. I hope you don't participate in GOTV because you would turn more voters off than on with such ridiculous rhetoric.

          •  Demonizing Nader & His Voters (4+ / 0-)

            is stupid.

            Gore won Florida, but a Supreme Court lead coup installed Bush anyway.

            Gore would have won by more votes if Florida hadn't struck tens of thousands of legal Aftrican American voters from its rolls because their names were simular to those of convicted felons.  Clinton's WH should have stopped this, just like Obama's is doing now.  

            Worse, the vote counting controversy was for "undervotes" where a ballot had no vote for President.  "Overvotes" on the other hand, were where a voter voted for two or more candidates for president.  Here, tens of thousands of overvote ballots were not counted in the election because of two votes for president.  However these ballots had Gore's name checked off on the ballot, and his name written in, because voters wanted to make their choice clear.   These overvotes should have been counted when the write-in candidate was the same as the checked candidate.  Instead they were discarded.  This cost Gore tens of thousands of votes.

            The discarded "overvote" ballots came from predominatly African American districts.  That's because white districts had machines that would check your ballot for mistakes before you depositied your ballot, while African American did not.      

            Florida's Gadsden County has the highest percentage of black voters in the state -- and the highest spoilage rate. One in 8 votes cast there in 2000 was never counted. Many voters wrote in "Al Gore." Optical reading machines rejected these because "Al" is a "stray mark."

            By contrast, in neighboring Tallahassee, the capital, vote spoilage was nearly zip; every vote counted. The difference? In Tallahassee's white- majority county, voters placed their ballots directly into optical scanners. If they added a stray mark, they received another ballot with instructions to correct it.

            In other words, in the white county, make a mistake and get another ballot; in the black county, make a mistake, your ballot is tossed.

            The U.S. Civil Rights Commission looked into the smelly pile of spoiled ballots and concluded that, of the 179,855 ballots invalidated by Florida officials, 53 percent were cast by black voters. In Florida, a black citizen was 10 times as likely to have a vote rejected as a white voter.

            Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/...

            But to some, everything is always the dirty fucking hippys' fault.  No need for facts, just blame them.  

            •  wrong, Nader sold out the people who supported him (2+ / 0-)
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              and he never was a hippie either. He knew whch way the wind blew but refused to withdraw and use his clout for the betterment of the nation. The result was war and the 'roberts Court'.

              Right now if the GOPer billionaires would give him enough money he'd do it again in a heartbeat, the man has zero principles.

              America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

              by cacamp on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 04:31:12 PM PDT

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            •  While there was certainly an organized (1+ / 0-)
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              campaign to strike African Americans from the voter rolls, a not insignificant reason for other problems (like the butterfly ballot) was the fact that there were thirteen candidates for president on the Florida general election ballot...I remember elderly voters and others complaining about the small print (the butterfly ballot design in another county allowed for larger print, but the confusing layout made it hard to tell whether the punch hole was for Al Gore or Pat Buchanan). It wasn't so much Nader alone as Nader and the other nine "third party" candidates that screwed things up.

              "All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out." --I.F. Stone

              by Alice in Florida on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:25:06 PM PDT

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          •  Which is on him - he ran a shitty (1+ / 0-)
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            campaign.

            That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

            by enhydra lutris on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 07:08:59 PM PDT

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    •  I like the phrasing of that. (3+ / 0-)
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      GOTV is a good lead measure and you should act on the lead measures but always be mindful that your ultimate success rests on the results.

      We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

      by theotherside on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:33:20 AM PDT

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    •  If you're referring to Wisconsin (2+ / 0-)
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      you may be taking away a misguided lesson.

      http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/...

      That's short of the 65-70 percent turnout that it was projected we'd need to win.

    •  Only if you think McCain would have (1+ / 0-)
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      been as good as Obama.

      If you believe that there's not much I can do to persuade you differently.

      Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

      by Wee Mama on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 11:36:23 AM PDT

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  •  Interesting device (20+ / 0-)

    The call out diary to forward concern about voting, etc.

    I dunno, it might be effective.

    I'll watch with interest.

  •  Is it Progressive to support Dems who.... (7+ / 0-)

    ...support REGRESSIVE taxes?

    In Minneapolis and Minnesota, Dem lawmakers passed REGRESSIVE sales and gambling taxes to finance a stadium for the Vikings.  Poll after poll indicated that the people of Minnesota did not want taxpayer funds going to that stadium.

    So, if we feel so strongly against GOPers in the South voting against their economic interests, shouldn't we also call on Dems in Minneapolis and Minnesota to vote against and Dem which increased their tax burden?

    Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project. http://www1.hamiltonproject.org/es/hamilton/hamilton_hp.htm

    by PatriciaVa on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:16:36 AM PDT

    •  It Might Be (5+ / 0-)

      What else do they do?

      Too Folk For You. - Schmidting in the Punch Bowl - verb - Committing an unexpected and underhanded political act intended to "spoil the party."

      by TooFolkGR on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:30:40 AM PDT

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    •  Tax burden? How invasive is GOP propaganda.... (15+ / 0-)

      when it's code words and language creep into progressive sites and speech.

      Taxes are not a burden.  They are the entry fee into civilization.

      If you don't think that Dems should have financed the stadium with those particular taxes and maybe should have taxed the Vikings, the wealthy and those who would benefit the most from the stadium, that is fine.  But don't call taxes a burden.

      They are a necessity for living in a decent society.

      Tax and Spend I can understand. I can even understand Borrow and Spend. But Borrow and give Billionaires tax cuts? That I have a problem with.

      by LiberalCanuck on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:34:15 AM PDT

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      •  Who defines "burden" (10+ / 0-)

        Taxes to subsidize billionaire NFL owners and millionaire NFL players aren't a burden?

        OK.

        But on the other hand, most Kossacks think that high regressive taxes on imported goods (tariffs are taxes) aren't a burden either.

      •  With median wages having stagnated for over 12... (11+ / 0-)

        ..years, with wealth and income inequality at its sharpest since the late 20s, yes,

        REGRESSIVE TAXES ARE A BURDEN.

        How can any center-lefter argue otherwise.

        Either you believe that wealth and income equality isn't a problem, and you'll support regressive taxes which will exacerbate this inequality.

        Or you believe that it is a problem, so you oppose any fiscal policy which worsens it.

        TooFolkGR asks,

        What else do they do?
        Why not let them leave.  Study after study has shown that professional teams end up costing more than they contribute to a city.

        Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project. http://www1.hamiltonproject.org/es/hamilton/hamilton_hp.htm

        by PatriciaVa on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:45:46 AM PDT

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      •  If only taxes would go to the common good (1+ / 0-)
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        but they don't.

        They go to make war.

        THey go to bail out billionaires.

        They get wasted on roads to nowhere.

        They get abused by parasites while the truly needy have less.

        THey go to fight a losing "war on drugs".

        Therefore, they are a burden.

        The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government. - Thomas Jefferson

        by ctexrep on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:36:43 AM PDT

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        •  Yeah cause my taxes never paid the (7+ / 0-)

          EMS people who probably saved my life, or at least my life as a non-vegetable.  They don't pay the firemen or the cops, or pave the roads or do anything worthwhile, they are all funneled into nefarious sidetracks.  

          We need to change a lot of how we spend our tax dollars, but this is reminiscent of something you'd see on a RW site.

          I'm not looking for a love that will lift me up and carry me away. A love that will stroll alongside and make a few amusing comments will suffice.

          by I love OCD on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 11:03:28 AM PDT

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          •  I think you're reaching (5+ / 0-)

            The poster mentioned the burden of taxes in connection with regressive taxation used to pay for a stadium.  Need I state the obvious?

            Regressive taxation is always a burden- it places a greater cost (or burden) on those least able to afford it.  Full stop.

            Furthermore, many are struggling to stay afloat at dead end jobs with low pay.  I would not begrudge that people in this position would feel their taxes are a burden (particularly given our tax structure).  

            You simplistically conflate labelling a specific tax or taxes a burden with the concept that all taxes are a burden.  I don't think the poster implied anything of the sort.

            •  Minnesota was once a liberal haven (4+ / 0-)

              where this would never have happened.  We need to face some harsh truths here.  We dropped the ball.  Republicans organized, we complained.  They own city councils and school boards and legislatures in areas where they should have been laughed out of town.  They have a solid bench, we have crickets.

              My fear is that the left will keep complaining as the right organizes harder, because we don't know how to translate outrage into action, we just vent.

              Maybe I'm in the wrong venue.  Maybe the blogosphere is a rest stop for activists between battles.  As soon as my other leg works I'll be out there talking to voters not just inputting data occasionally.  I think more time with actors is the ticket for me.      

              I'm not looking for a love that will lift me up and carry me away. A love that will stroll alongside and make a few amusing comments will suffice.

              by I love OCD on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 12:18:02 PM PDT

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          •  All I can say is (0+ / 0-)

            when you go to the florist - they doesn't make you buy two bags of manure to get a boquet of flowers....and I don't think you would pay pay them if they charged you for it.

            Why should WE expect less from OUR Government?

            That's not RW - that's commin sense.

            All the graft just re-enforces the RW.  When you're out there talking it up for candidates, make sure they are going to clean up some of the mess and not just keep it going.

            The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government. - Thomas Jefferson

            by ctexrep on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 01:57:29 PM PDT

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    •  Let's face it. (6+ / 0-)

      We need the Dems in the short term, if only because they have, historically, offered a kind of holding pattern in which the damage to the republic is minimized (not eliminated), after which we can regroup to exert pressure on said Dem.

      With President Obama, no matter how people feel about him on the left, we can at least have an argument. Even that may be changing, but he is at least theoretically open to our ideas.

      With Bush, we could yell at him lots, and that made us feel better, but in the meantime, he was installing his cronies in every branch of government; firing US Attorneys on the basis of political ideology/personal connections; launching elective wars; gutting financial regulations (the Dems do that too, though), and doing everything possible to return the US to the days of the robber barons.

      It really is a "lesser evil" argument -- and I say that as someone who likes President Obama very much at the level of personal appeal, rhetoric, etc. It's not even always his fault: he has been hampered by an intransigent Congress, and he is subject to the inertia of the office of the President -- like almost everyone else who had been in his shoes.

      But we shouldn't kid ourselves. Voting for Dems in this political environment, where even our favorite Senators get massive infusions of cash from the financial sector, is essentially an exercise in damage control.

      Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of non-thought. -- Milan Kundera

      by Dale on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:14:50 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Are you a single issue voter? (11+ / 0-)

      Then  sure, vote against those Democrats. But when you find that Republicans take over and do the whole panoply of ghastly things that Republicans do, you won't have any basis to complain.

      The reason many Republicans vote against their economic interests is that they are single issue voters too: anti-abortion, homophobia, etc.

    •  Billionares Deserve Tax Funds & Working People Do (0+ / 0-)

      NOT.  The whole point of the rich running this country is so they can legally steal from us all in a thousand different ways.  

      But you of you peasents need something?  Fuck you they say.  You're a freeloader.  

  •  Nice diary, but I have voted in every election (19+ / 0-)

    both big and small since 1988. I vote. That's what I do. Like today, for instance, I voted in the Maine Primaries (actually, I did it by absentee ballot but it gets counted today). I voted for Wild Maine Blueberry Pie. It's tastier than our next Senator, the Independent Angus King who was not on the ballot but surely will win.

    Santorum: Man on Dog; Romney: Dog on Car. Ren and Stimpy: Dog on Cat equalitymaine.org

    by commonmass on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:24:42 AM PDT

  •  As a registered Republican, it seems that you (8+ / 0-)

    are on to something.  I know I'm certainly guilty of reading a lot of diaries that entertain me, or inform me or get the blood boiling but very little in concrete steps to make the world a better place.

    Put another way to put it is that my action to "fun" ratio on DKOS is approaching zero and that's not good for anyone.

    What's the answer?  Who knows?  Since I'm competitive perhaps making a system where I can earn points and "beat" other people might encourage me and others to compete and take action.  Liberals, in general, tend to be less competitive and it may not work as well but it's certainly an idea.

    You could also marry it up to the business philosophy that says that what gets measured gets done.  Well, by creating some kind of game that measures productive actions, you might be able to make it popular enough on a site with enough readers to make an impact.  

    That's a game I might be willing to play.

    We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

    by theotherside on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:30:04 AM PDT

    •  You have some good ideas... (6+ / 0-)

      ... and while I wholeheartedly support everyone registering to vote then actually voting, I hope you're considering helping us get out the Democratic vote ;-)

      •  Yep, I'm on the Dem bus this year (8+ / 0-)

        I used to get sick of Dems saying that they were a part of the "reality based community".  Like I wasn't?  But "my" party has gone pretty crazy and I look forward to the day when we have two sane parties.

        Until that day, I will supporting other parties besides the Repubs.

        We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

        by theotherside on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 11:19:57 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Hrrmmm (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
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          I thought we had the right formula in 2008.  I thought for sure we'd see a swing back to sanity.  I was woefully over-confident.  We went the other way.  Deeper into the rabbit hole.  Not that I mind the GOP going there but they dragged the whole country deeper.

          Most of my life I was quite satisfied being an independent.  I was quite satisfied with voting for the candidate who I thought was best despite the party affiliation - although the vast majority of those votes went to Dems and I increasingly felt I was voting for the lessor of 2 evils.  

          Not any more.  Heck I long for the lessor of 2 evils options.  The GOP is so far gone that they'd make anyone short of a serial killer look like the lessor of 2 evils.

          So, here's to you.  I'm with you in your hope for the return of sanity for the GOP.  I just don't know if it will happen.

          "You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity"

          by newfie on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 12:52:01 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  I hate competition, unless it's against myself. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Matt Z

      Cats are better than therapy, and I'm a therapist.

      by Smoh on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 11:13:55 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  This is an excellent diary. Not everyone can (12+ / 0-)

    or will act on it, but I like the way it makes its point.

    Thanks.

  •  Hadn't heard of the site, Thanks for the diary. (11+ / 0-)

    Voter suppression is going to be the issue that wins or loses this election for us, regardless of what people think. REpubs are working so hard at it because it's effective, and cheap. For them anyway.

    "Such is the irresistible nature of truth that all it asks, and all it wants, is the liberty of appearing." - Thomas Paine

    by blueoregon on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:44:39 AM PDT

  •  Thanks-we all need to work on telling voters (8+ / 0-)

    what they need to do starting now. T & R'd.

    "No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar." Abraham Lincoln

    by appledown on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:53:37 AM PDT

  •  I talk to everyone about voting. (12+ / 0-)

    The kids at school, cashiers, waiters, taxi drivers, bus drivers, hair dressers, clerks-every one who thinks that one voice does not matter, all politicians are the same, all want your money, taxes go up and services go down, the rich get richer etc.  All US citizens 18 and over need to vote and all need to be registered to vote now.  This summer we have to amp up the talking and get people excited to exercise their rights.

  •  This problem... (17+ / 0-)

    ..is not specific to "dKos" as you put it.

    Being too cool to vote is a liberal pandemic.

    Bill Maher recently told OWS to pull their heads out of the clouds & go register to vote.

    Predictably, this board let Maher have it for suggesting such a pro-establishment maneuver.

    When to comes to activist politics,  I am not a street fighting man.

    But my sorry ass is at least registered to vote; & I consistently show up at the polls & cast meaningless votes for Democratic candidates in a deep red state where Democrats don't have a chance in hell of winning anything.

     

    When Fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in excess body fat and carrying a misspelled sign.

    by wyvern on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:18:02 AM PDT

  •  lots of words, some of them important, (7+ / 0-)

    all missing one common ingredient.

    Leadership.

    No matter how you slice it, there will be people working at cross purposes, even if both agree on what the goal is.

    Sure, screaming Go! TV! might help some programs maintain their viewership numbers, and help others in close elections, but  even herding cats have one thing that liberals, progressives, democrats, and socialists do not. At the sound of a bag of food or a can opener, they all combine forces and aim for the feeding area.

    What I mean is that we have no leadership at the moment. It was painfully apparent in 2009 when all too many D congresscritters and senators were hung out to dry without a clue of what the White House would support in a health care plan. that horrific lack of leadership afflicts us to this very day. Even now, a lack of education, exposure, and insight into what the Health Care program sought to accomplish and how it went about it hobbles it, hobbles us, and blinds potential supporters to the good parts of the bill.

    A lack of leadership caused today's problems as clearly as a couple of millionaires and billionaires concocted our Teabuggerer problem.

    I do not disagree with the author's goals. I merely point out that there is no overriding message from the Oval Office. There is no leadership, no risk taking, no pushing of solutions, no nothing. WIthout any leadership out there, it is virtually impossible to do what the author correctly suggests. If you want success this year, someone better get Obama's attention and right fast. Time's a wasting, as (potentially) is his campaign.

    What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

    by agnostic on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:18:35 AM PDT

    •  no leadership?? (7+ / 0-)

      President Obama wants to go "Forward". And you know what that means, don't you? It means we won't go "Backward". Unless, of course, we have to because of political realities. The President doesn't have a magic wand, after all.

      But he's come out very strongly in favor of going "Forward".

      •  Ah, yes. Forward. (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Shahryar, Superpole

        In the 1880s, the Michelson-Morley Null result proved that there was no "Forward, backward, up, down" except in a relational context. And there was no aether out there.

        Forward March?
        Forward Pass?
        Forward, not aft?
        Forward calls?
        Forward mail?
        Forward is fore-armed?
        For Ward Cleaver's wife?

        Nope. Doesn't compute. I simply cannot process or analyse how one defines "Forward." If it as nebulous as his campaign has been so far, then, "We have a problem, Houston."

        What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

        by agnostic on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 11:50:46 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Top-down leadership has failed (5+ / 0-)

      Time to lead from the bottom up.

      Speaking of GOTV, I will be working voter reg at Hempfest this summer.

      How many voters will you register?

      Both parties are beholden to their corporate sponsors. The Democratic Party deigns to throw us a few bones from the table on which to gnaw and squabble over, but it's just kabuki.

      by ozsea1 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 11:52:29 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Ah, yes, the lack of leadership exhibited by (0+ / 0-)

        the president, and his fumbled failures, especially in 2009 and 2010, are my fault.
        Gotcha.

        Thanks. I was confused about that.

        What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

        by agnostic on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 12:01:05 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Your fault? (6+ / 0-)

          Not. About. You.

          Both parties are beholden to their corporate sponsors. The Democratic Party deigns to throw us a few bones from the table on which to gnaw and squabble over, but it's just kabuki.

          by ozsea1 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 12:08:57 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  then why clap yourself on your back, and pointedly (0+ / 0-)

            demand that I tell you about my intentions RE: actions to be taken?

            I just hope you don't get carpal tunnel in the process. It can be painful.

            You may claim that TopDown leadership doesn't work. I'd like to see some evidence, please, first, give me an example of when it failed to work in the recent past, and secondly, give me an example when Obama ever tried it as president.

            Thanking you in advance, I remain,

            unhappy at what the White House is doing and how they are fucking up this campaign.

            What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

            by agnostic on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 12:24:53 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  So Answer is "ZERO" to Voters U Plan 2 Register? (4+ / 0-)
              Recommended by:
              howarddream, ozsea1, R2P2, Larsstephens

              Probably a good idea. Judging by your attitude, I doubt you would be very successful at it.

              Gonna bust my butt to get Democrats elected this Fall.

              by kefauver on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 01:55:39 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  thanks. Curmudgeons have many good points, (1+ / 0-)
                Recommended by:
                Medium Head Boy

                doing a pointless task, without the necessary overlay of theme and purpose is not one of them.

                Honestly, Kef, which works better?

                A) GET OUT THE VOTE (and clap louder!)

                B) Please vote because our plan to to create a jobs program, to increase spending (and hiring) on roads, bridges, and investing in a smart grid, powered by green energy.

                No, you are right. A) is obliviously the bestest choice! EVERYONE CLAP! LOUDER! LOUDER STILL!

                It would be nice to have a product to sell if we are selling something.

                What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

                by agnostic on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 02:08:05 PM PDT

                [ Parent ]

        •  Now, as for GOTV (4+ / 0-)

          that's about EVERYONE.

          Both parties are beholden to their corporate sponsors. The Democratic Party deigns to throw us a few bones from the table on which to gnaw and squabble over, but it's just kabuki.

          by ozsea1 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 12:10:25 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  If the diary was published on Sunday, (3+ / 0-)

    there's a great chance many of us just missed it.

    There is even a feature on Monday mornings about what we might have missed on Sunday Kos -- as if to acknowledge that lots of us aren't here then.

    I often don't bother logging on on Sundays, because there are very few interesting diaries written then. There is no news breaking, and all the best diarists seem to be enjoying their real lives.

    That said, this year, I got my entire immediate family registered to vote in Texas. That's five Democratic votes on Election Day, and all will be for President Obama.

    My 92-year-old Republican mom had to go into a nursing home last month, and she let her driver's license expire in April and doesn't plan to renew it. She doesn't care about voting, but I offered to help her, even if she votes Republican. So, that looks like a net four votes for Obama from Texas.

    Thanks for all the info you presented, but to chide us for missing a diary published on a Sunday (and was it rescued or republished to groups?), is kind of unfair.

    PS: That was also the day of the solar eclipse. I would be willing to bet that a number of Kossacks were outside that day. And May 20 was not a week ago.

    "The difference between the right word and the almost-right word is like the difference between lightning and the lightning bug." -- Mark Twain

    by Brooke In Seattle on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:25:21 AM PDT

    •  Get your mother a state identification card. You (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Larsstephens

      realize that even though she may be in a nursing home, just about anything you do these days (including dealing with social security and medicare) often requires valid photo ID.

      I went through this with my elderly mother and I  learned how necessary that ID was.

  •  The lesson from Wisconsin: (10+ / 0-)

    No matter how much you care,
    No matter how much you write about caring,
    No matter how much you tell your friends about the political havoc the bad guys are doing

    All of the above is meaningless if you don't motivate every supporter to go vote, then make sure they do.

    The core argument in Wisconsin for keeping Scott Walker was that he hadn't been convicted of wrongdoing. I still don't understand how to overcome that reason.

    Bring those still in Afghanistan home NOW . . . It's long past time.

    by llbear on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:29:07 AM PDT

    •  Uhhhh (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      BoxNDox, R2P2
      The core argument in Wisconsin for keeping Scott Walker was that he hadn't been convicted of wrongdoing.
      No. You're reasoning is what didn't make sense for WI voters.

      As others have pointed out, Walker was able to frame this as being about the recall not him. He was easily able to do this because numerous voters did not want the recall in the first place.

      Don't bring a knife to a gun fight. If you're going to force the issue, then run a candidate that actually unites and inspires the anti-Wallker factions.

      Barrett was not that candidate.

      "The private economy is doing fine". President Obama 6.8.2012

      by Superpole on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 12:56:08 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Volunteering for Obama is scary (9+ / 0-)

    You will definitely have to call strangers on the phone, maybe talk to them in person, even try to recruit other volunteers.

    It's hard because every time you make a call or knock on a door, there's a chance of a negative reaction.  Takes some emotional energy.

    That's why so many people are instinctively avoiding the whole thing.   Which is bad because the Mormons are very good at canvassing.

    •  Thanks (10+ / 0-)

      Just posted the link to Gottavote on Facebook with this message:

      Please consider circulating this link.  "Voter ID" and other laws in many states are making it harder to vote.  This tool enables anyone to click on his or her state and find detailed instructions about what is needed to be able to vote this year.
      I generally avoid political comments on Facebook for a variety of reasons, but this is non-partisan enough that I don't have those concerns.

      The GOP: "You can always go to the Emergency Room."

      by Upper West on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:44:38 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Heh. Hadn't thought of that (4+ / 0-)
      the Mormons are very good at canvassing
      You are right - there are generations of experienced door knockers, many  more of whom probably support the Mitt than Obama.

      from a bright young conservative: “I’m watching my first GOP debate…and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!”

      by Catte Nappe on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:58:47 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I agree with you. (4+ / 0-)

      I am timid, even on DK. I have thought that if I had to knock on strange doors, I couldn't do it alone. I would strongly advise others to not do it alone. Besides much needed emotional support, provided by a companion, knocking on strange doors could be dangerous.

      But I don't have to, there are enough people in my life that just need a little information, a push and some help.

      •  I agree - go as a team (3+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        howabout, Fogiv, Larsstephens

        I do a lot of doorbelling. I go knock on the door (alone) while my partner waits in the car, keeping a sharp eye on me. If it's a walkable precinct (as opposed to mine, for instance, which really isn't), we go on foot together. If it's a precinct which needs to be driven, and that's most of them in my area, he does the driving and is already prepared with what the next stop is, and I can focus on voter name, getting literature prepared, and getting myself - I'm shy - ready to knock on another door.

        Do go as a team. If you're assigned one precinct and your teammate is assigned a different one, do both of them together. It makes for a longer day, but you'll feel it less because you're in a sociable situation with another person, so it becomes more fun and more about friendship. Or partnership, in the case of me and Charles. I'm the PCO, but he knows he's going to get drafted and is prepared for it.

        Organ donors save lives! A donor's kidney gave me my life back on 02/18/11; he lives on in me. Please talk with your family about your wish to donate.

        Why are war casualty counts "American troops" and "others" but never "human beings"?

        by Kitsap River on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 02:41:09 PM PDT

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  •  As a dedicated Democrat (12+ / 0-)

    I have been amazed throughout my life how many people who would vote Democratic do not vote.

    In the main, they are poor people who think they are going to get screwed no matter what.

    My first vote in a major election was for McGovern. I encouraged, helped register and gave rides to four people who voted with me.

    That became my goal. At least four Democrats who would not otherwise vote, I would get to vote.

    I have achieved that goal and often surpassed it in every major election.

    I am a Michiganian, but I was living in Texas when Ann Richards was running for governor. I got so many people to vote for her that I took credit for her being elected, well, me and Molly Ivins.

    I have seven people in my sights right now and I haven't been trying very hard. I will do more, I think I must do more.

    Thank you for the great diary and for spurring me on.

  •  Also tell new/old voters all the dirty tricks they (6+ / 0-)

    can expect and how to report them.

    As we saw in Wisconsin, people who signed the recall petition were robo-called that they "had already voted."

    And elsewhere, that the voting precinct changed or the date changed.

    They need to have a way to verify this, feel confident and even report it; especially the elderly.

    (By the way, I voted for Yous Can't Talk...because its funny)

    Awesome diary

    People, not corporations. Democracy, not totalitarian capitalism.

    by democracy is coming on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 11:01:58 AM PDT

  •   Motivation by shameing or badmouthing (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    fidel

    There was a time when certain campaigns actually motivated others  with positive themes, positive motivation, promises of change for the better.
      What happened?

  •  wanna win? (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    ozsea1, TDDVandy

    If the Dems want to win, we need to encourage (force) Holder to investigate voter suppression.  Instead of using the Presidency to exhibit power, Obama and company play softball.  It is unfathomable that we went to war in Iraq after Cheney lied to congress--and the new administration didn't order an investigation--neither did the Dem House or Senate.  Americans are not overwhelmingly against left leaning positions, but they don't like weakness from their leaders.

    Apres Bush, le deluge.

    by melvynny on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 11:32:14 AM PDT

    •  Even better: do something yourself (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Larsstephens

      Given what evil people like Lex Luthor the governor of FL will do to thwart federal law, it's not just Holder we need to lean on.

      There are organizations that help, but the first thing you can do is help with the process locally.   You can observe in your precinct.  You can help register people.  You can give money to organizations that help keep voting fair and free.

      If you're a lawyer, you can also help because we need people who know the law and can intervene when partisan assholes try to prevent people from registering to vote, or voting.

      There's a place for complaining about the DNC and about the administration, but don't let that be an excuse to let yourself off the hook.  Go out and do something.

      Mitt Romney is a T-1000 sent back from the Future as a harbinger of the upcoming Robot Apocolypse.

      by mbayrob on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:11:40 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  just skipping thru here today, (5+ / 0-)

    but wanted to thank you profusely for this diary Mokurai.

    It seems like the Republicans WE are our own worst enemy when it comes to suppressing our own votes.   I'm not sure what it will take to get us motivated, but I ask everyone to look deep down into their heart/soul and get with it.

    The stakes are way, Way WAY too high.

    "in the fleeting time we have on this earth, what matters is not wealth, or status, or power, or fame -- but rather, how well we have loved" B.Obama

    by one love on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 11:38:38 AM PDT

  •  Sorry, I won't do lesser of evils voting anymore (0+ / 0-)
    •  Your choice. (9+ / 0-)

      However, if your plan here in the next few months is to persuade others to join you, you ought to take a hiatus.  We have work to do, and apparently you're not interested.

      Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

      by SottoVoce on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 01:38:51 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Not interested in voting for Obama, no (0+ / 0-)

        I am going to do some work for Grayson, and I plan on sticking around and will continue to speak my mind. I've never tried to convince anyone that they shouldn't vote for Obama. I have just stated the fact that I have no intention of voting for him, and criticized his terrible policy choices (which I intend to continue doing).

        •  glad to hear this (0+ / 0-)
          I've never tried to convince anyone that they shouldn't vote for Obama.
           That's really against the goals of this site.  As kos said:
          But here's the thing -- through Election Day, we need to have a single purpose in mind. I won't say you can't bitch about the Democrats or the president, but if you don't like Obama, you're going to like Mitt Romney even less. So what do you think you are accomplishing besides satiating some apparent need for absolute purity? Feel free to unload on Obama the day after he is reelected. But for now, seriously, what do you think you're accomplishing? If Obama offends you so much that you consider him irredeemable, then become a Green and go somewhere else, because you're pretty much hopeless and a waste of everyone else's time here.

          Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

          by SottoVoce on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 05:09:52 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Frankly, kos can shove his 'be a green' comment (0+ / 0-)

            This is as much my party as his or yours.

            •  I don't think he's talking about the party (0+ / 0-)

              he's talking about his site.  Very different matter.  The party is all of ours.  The site is his.

              Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

              by SottoVoce on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 05:44:00 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  Nope, he said it directly (0+ / 0-)
                then become a Green
                And his site rules change faster than anyone could possibly keep up with anyway. This is the same guy who considered Lieberman 'irredeemable' and worked against him, which I agreed with. And now that we have a similar president, he's going to play purity with his site for a (very) conservative democrat? Whatever. You are right, it is his site and he can make whatever random, contradictory rules he wants on the spot on a whim. However, I intend to do the exact same thing I've always done here. Support progressives strongly and bash conservative democrats and republicans just as strongly.
    •  that's fine if you're 'perfect' (4+ / 0-)

      if not it's dumb. no party, candidate or voter is so perfect they can be all things to all people.

      The thing is your stance is in fact a vote for the greater of the two evils. Think about it.

      America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

      by cacamp on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 04:57:16 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  It most certainly is not (0+ / 0-)

        You don't get to assume my vote. It is a vote for nobody.

        •  you forgot the "think" part (0+ / 0-)

          Not voting is allowing the teabbagers a free pass. If all democrats took your stance we'd quickly become a facist state. Pouting instead of thinking is a very poor way to participate in politics. One doesn't have to 'assume' anything to understand not voting is in reality a vote for the GOP. Think about it.

          America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

          by cacamp on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 02:39:39 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Any encouragement to get registered to vote (9+ / 0-)

    is a positive.

    Here's one that may speak to some people . .

    When You register to vote, indicate that you are willing to work as an election official. Often precincts in my county have fewer than what is required. Are you unemployed? Election officials GET PAID. I get $140 for one day (long). Helps out a lot, and it make me feel good as an American to be able to say "I'm proud to do my civic duty".

    I've recruited 4 other election judges for my county (3 Democrat, 1 Republican) and have our own little network on election day since we end up in different voting districts. For some reason, I'm always the busiest. :-/

  •  I've done a little bit of Voter Registration (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    MuskokaGord, Larsstephens

    so far, and plan to pick up the pace between now and the deadline.   The next 3 months are the window.

    GOTV is a little more intimidating for me -- I've done it, but it's a push to get myself invovled.  Registration is easy to love because it is a non-partisan activity in a Dem-majority region.  

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 12:00:27 PM PDT

  •  Good, but also gotta do THIS! (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    MuskokaGord, PsychoSavannah

    We need to make sure we are effectively getting the message on every darn stinking comment board in cyberspace.

    I'm not going to get all geeky and claim that online is everything, it is a LOT, and making sure that people know that there are people out there helping to shape opinion favorable to DEMS is a critical part of campaigning in 2012.

    People READ the comments of boards as much as if not more than they read the articles they're attached to, and making good points to counter the trolls can be VERY effective.

    Let's get out there as Obama's Online Army and fight the good cause!

    What separates us, divides us, and diminishes the human spirit.

    by equern on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 12:06:28 PM PDT

  •  Thanks for your concern (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    MuskokaGord

    As for voter suppression in our state, we local Dems got it covered, we work on it regularly.

    Anything else?

    "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." Edward R. Murrow

    by Betty Pinson on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 12:08:07 PM PDT

  •  teabaggers (4+ / 0-)

    my motivation to work this election is not president obama and what he's done for me/us.  my motivation is denying teabaggers, the most hateful humans i've known my adult life here in america.  i have grown up with republicans in my family but they are more the reagan variety, i.e. tolerable.  

    the teabaggers and their even crazier allies, the dominionists, are fascists that must be stopped. they now own the republican party. gwb was but a taste of how nasty they can be.

    Stop Prohibition, Start Harm Reduction

    by gnostradamus on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 12:35:53 PM PDT

  •  Most of my messaging about voting (5+ / 0-)

    and voter suppression has been to the first-time and new voters who have moved since they left college to other states and are distracted looking for jobs or working a job(s) and need motivation to get registered to actually vote.  I know so many "kids" who registered in their college states, have since graduated, and are dragging their feet about re-registering.  We have to wake them up!

    Anyway, I'm convinced we have to talk about these issues with everyone.

    Your diary is well received by me. Thanks so much.

    I would rather spend my life searching for truth than live a single day within the comfort of a lie. ~ John Victor Ramses

    by KayCeSF on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 01:02:24 PM PDT

  •  Here's an idea (5+ / 0-)

    To counter voter ID laws, how about we go help some people get photo ID?

    28, white male, TX-26 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

    by TDDVandy on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 01:03:08 PM PDT

  •  How about this? OCCUPY ELECTIONS. nt (3+ / 0-)

    Kick apart the structures - Seth

    by ceebee7 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 01:59:10 PM PDT

  •  As any good liberal knows ... (2+ / 0-)
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    highacidity, Larsstephens

    ... it's time for human beings to go extinct. And only Republican rule guarantees that.

    Cue commercial:

    While I as a person of conscience can't vote for Mr. Romney, as an environmentalist who believes that human life is a cancer on this Earth I only can cheer the prospect of the assured destruction of humanity which a Romney victory will make inevitable.

    This year, let's all stay at home and meditate on purity. Won't it be the joke on the Republicans when the world ends, and we not they are the favored ones in heaven? I'm staying home on Election Day. Hope you do too.

    If there's but one thing we know for sure about God, He has a sense of humor!
  •  Great Diary and Needed to Be Said. (3+ / 0-)
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    BoxNDox, greengemini, Larsstephens

    GOTV is very important and is usually a cornerstone of DKOS.

    Hope to see more GOTV action diaries up on the rec list in the weeks to come.

    Sorry there are a few folks in the comments who came to "meh on your parade." They probably think they are being "edgy."

    I miss Speaker Pelosi :^(

    by howarddream on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 02:17:11 PM PDT

  •  dkos is not a strong blog for action IMHO (1+ / 0-)
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    greengemini

    There are a few good action diaries, but subject matter is all over the place.

    Part of the problem is that there are so many diaries that one cannot possible read them all.  And the rec list is nearly worthless for pulling up valuable action oriented diaries.  The community spotlight doesn't focus exclusively on political diaries either.

    A month or so ago there was a great diary by labor leader Leo Gerard.  2 comments, 2 recs.  At the time, the rec list had 2 pootie diaries and a few fairly typical rants.

    I was asking questions about registering hispanic people to vote in Texas recently and was directed to a site that hasn't been updated in a year or two.

    It's sad.  Dkos needs a separate rec list for political action diaries only.  Don't hold your breath.

    I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

    by Satya1 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 02:27:34 PM PDT

  •  The sense of urgency is not there. (1+ / 0-)
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    fidel

    All you have to do is talk to the same people you persuaded to vote Obama in 2008 and their whole view of him is different.  Some will vote for him, some will not, and some have told me it does not make any difference, no one will stand for the little guy or gal.

    If you look at it, and it is cynical, I understand these views, though I would never not vote.

    Many out here are still underwater in their homes, barely making it.  We see how the median wealth for the middle class dropped 40%.  Many in their 40s, 50s who are not in retirement age have lost jobs and unable to find a job that will pay a decent wage.

    Much was done for Wall Street, but nothing, very little that people can feel and see for Main Street.

    That is why the enthusiasm level is tepid for both candidates to be frank.  Obama with these economic numbers slowly going backward have to defend his policies and people get tired of hearing, "the economy is getting better but we must do more."  If Barack Obama do not call the Republicans out for what they are dangerous, disastrous and obstructionists, how is he going to win?  And Obama must come to terms that he gave Wall Street everything, including no accountability for what they did to this country and that this has resonated out here.  I hear this all the time.

    Right now this is politics of destruction, many don't see either of these candidates making a difference, but if Obama can not get his message out here and strong he is going to have a seriously hard time in November.  That campaign need to step the fuck up on the message department and quick.

  •  I couldn't agree more. (3+ / 0-)
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    melo, shenderson, Fogiv

    What is wrong with Daily Kos is that my diaries don't get enough eyes and mojo.  /snark

    Save the U.S. Postal Service, an august, efficient, trusted and indispensable American institution.

    by LeftOfYou on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 05:08:43 PM PDT

    •  Actually (3+ / 0-)
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      I was disappointed that my Gottavote diary received as little attention here as it did, simply because of the importance of this issue. I tried to spread the diary among young people I know, so the diary actually did better in social media than here on dKos, garnering more than twice as many shares and likes as tips and recs.

      That is a tribute to the power of the new platform Kos gave us to help us do a better job of spreading the word.  

      Save the U.S. Postal Service, an august, efficient, trusted and indispensable American institution.

      by LeftOfYou on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 05:15:41 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  PS (2+ / 0-)
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        I worked for the Obama campaign as a voter protection attorney in Wisconsin in November 2012 and expect to do the same this year. I have some background in election law, having worked for elected officials and, for a time, served as chief counsel to a state election board.

        Getting out the vote and getting out information about the vote is enormously important, maybe more important than anything else.  

        If we don't protect the vote, we won't have the vote. I am grateful for the attention that this diary has received. Tipped and recc'd.

        Save the U.S. Postal Service, an august, efficient, trusted and indispensable American institution.

        by LeftOfYou on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 05:22:08 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Well, this diary does show some problems with DKos (0+ / 0-)

    ..but perhaps not in quite the way it intended.

    "To pass these defendants a poisoned chalice is to put it to our own lips as well." Justice Robert Jackson, Chief Prosecutor, Nuremberg.

    by Wayward Son on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 05:37:26 PM PDT

  •  And nobody is buying cars because (0+ / 0-)

    nobody tipped a diary recommending Smiling Sam's online Buick salesroom. Sorry, the following is non-evidentiary:

    The response to a Diary Entry about the Obama campaign's Web site for countering voter suppression, GottaVote.org.

    That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

    by enhydra lutris on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 06:55:33 PM PDT

  •  identity politics (0+ / 0-)
    I observe constantly that almost everybody gets really excited about their favorite issue (Mine is global education for ending poverty), but that few look further to what needs to be done overall
    There seems to be no other kind of politics these days.

    Oregon: Sure...it's cold. But it's a damp cold.

    by Keith930 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 08:02:47 PM PDT

  •  I'm posting this to my Facebook wall (2+ / 0-)
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    I have a lot of younger friends in the Tempe, AZ music scene.

    See the children of the earth who wake to find the table bare, See the gentry in the country riding out to take the air. ~~Gordon Lightfoot, "Don Quixote"

    by Panama Pete on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 08:47:38 PM PDT

  •  Live outside the US? votefromabroad.org (1+ / 0-)
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    Larsstephens

    If you live outside of the US but are a US citizen, most likely you are eligible to vote in federal elections.

    But you gotta register.   Every year, AFAIK.

    The Democratic Party, via Democrats Abroad, runs a site called Vote From Abroad that walks you through the registration process, and generates the forms you need (different from registering in the US) and tells you how to get registered.  The sooner you register, the better.

    Democrats Abroad also works to help get out the expat vote, and if you are living outside of the US temporarily or permanently, they're worth joining up with.

    Mitt Romney is a T-1000 sent back from the Future as a harbinger of the upcoming Robot Apocolypse.

    by mbayrob on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:05:33 PM PDT

  •  There's also FLWV and Rock the Vote (0+ / 0-)

    Florida League of Women Voters and Rock the Vote have both announced their intention to resume registration drives in Florida, now that the feds are fighting back against the Republic Party's law that constitutes an attack against voters.

    I am guilty of exactly what this diary talks about.  Now I have multiple avenues for doing something about it.

    OT:  When I went to gottavote, it took me directly to the Florida page (which was nice).  But, how do it know?  

    I am become Man, the destroyer of worlds

    by tle on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 05:45:55 AM PDT

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