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This week, we decided to revisit an important question we've asked a couple of times before.

Public Policy Polling for Daily Kos & SEIU. 6/7-10. Registered voters. MoE ±3.1% (2/9-12 results):

Q: Do you think the Republicans are intentionally stalling efforts to jumpstart the economy to ensure that Barack Obama is not reelected or not?

Yes: 49 (47)
No: 40 (41)
Unsure: 11 (12)

Four months may have elapsed since we last put this question to voters, but the numbers are virtually unchanged. Indeed, when we first asked this question back in November, the results were almost identical to what we see now: 50 yes, 41 no.

Back then, I wondered if Democrats would have the courage to make an issue of GOP obstructionism on the economy. To date, it seems like this issue hasn't been a core part of the Democratic message, from Obama on down. But there's still quite a bit of time, and I'd also point out that Obama (and in particular, one of his chief surrogates, the Super PAC Priorities USA) has put Mitt Romney's work at Bain Capital front-and-center—something that's been effective.

That suggests to me that Democrats are willing and able to go on the offensive on economic issues, and I'm hopeful that Republican sabotage of economic recovery efforts gets added to that arsenal. There are persuadable voters out there who can be swayed by this message. Let's not leave it on the table.

P.S. As always, our approval and favorability numbers can be found on our weekly trends page.

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  •  Obstructionism is a vague accusation. Jobs legis- (8+ / 0-)

    lation obstruction seems a more specific, tangible, provable, and damning fact that Democrats should single out.

  •  The GOPTP (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Pinto Pony

    should be voted out of power and stay out of power for a very long time. Their obsessions with tax cuts, unfunded wars and their outright lies about both would ensure that in any sane society that would happen.. Oh wait....

    America, We blow stuff up!!

    by IndyinDelaware on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:53:25 AM PDT

  •  I think you mean "ensure", not "insure". (2+ / 0-)
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    u028021, tb mare

    Just in case the poll is reported elsewhere.

    Why did the Washington Post hire Bellatrix LeStrange? And why did she change her name to Jennifer Rubin?

    by NoFortunateSon on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:53:35 AM PDT

  •  Last week you mentioned an overly pro-D tilt in (1+ / 0-)
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    khyber900

    the cross tabs.

    Have they changed in this week's poll? If so, and the margin is still +8% during a week that the MSM dubbed as the worst for Obama, then it's pretty significant.

    Divide and rule, a sound motto. Unite and lead, a better one. ::Goethe::

    by Jeremy10036 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:53:42 AM PDT

    •  Every week has been Obama's worst week (4+ / 0-)

      for the last two months, the truth is very few people pay attention to political pundits in the media.

      •  maybe not pundits but they do listen to the radio (0+ / 0-)

        yes a lot of people listen to talk radio and a lot of opinion is being spread regarding Obama, like it or not. The American people might not be into "memes" or pundits but they do listen to Rush, Hannity and all of the other screamers out there on the airwaves and even with a grain of salt, some people will believe what they hear even if it is against their own best interests.

    •  I never understood why last week was a 'bad' week (7+ / 0-)

      for Obama.  I didn't think his alleged gaffe was much of a gaffe and I thought Romney undercut himself by saying that he would essentially fire as many public sector workers as possible, including ones the people like such as firefighters, teachers and police officers.  Can you imagine the ad that team Obama can run in suburban areas about what the crime rate would look like with fewer police officers?  

      This campaign represents a great opportunity to dismantle the GOP's drive against government.  People like teachers and police officers.  The GOP is campaigning against unions, which has been only partially effective (it worked in WI but not in OH, which suggests that how one frames the issue matters).

      Alternative rock with something to say: http://www.myspace.com/globalshakedown

      by khyber900 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:07:49 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  But gaffe it was cause that's how MSM reported it. (1+ / 0-)
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        lina

        Only MSNBC seems to report the next 43 words of what Obama said in that sentence. The MSM plays up just on the first six or eight, never mind that they were off the cuff (to the extent anything the most thoughtful President in many years says is really "off the cuff") in a morning press conference. Where, if there's any time during a campaign, a President who subjects himself to challenging by the press should be allowed the sense of the complete quote.

        But these are election times. Candidates have to watch their quotable lines ... and every word they say is quotable! Even when Romney & Co. take a clip of Obama quoting John McCain, delete the attribution to McCain and insistently re-run the quote as Obama's "because he said it." And even from a man who doggedly denies having said many things that there's video evidence of.

        Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

        by TRPChicago on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:39:43 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  They need to get up fast (3+ / 0-)
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        wmspringer, MarcKyle64, Larsstephens

        in New Mexico and Colorado with an ad featuring Romney saying he wants to cut firefighters.  Like, right now.

  •  It's domonstrably true that Reps are sabotaging (10+ / 0-)

    the economy. The Dems, including Obama and the campaign, not only need to hit on this constantly, they need to bring up votes to demonstrate the sabotage over and over again.

    The Reps will charge that it's game playing, but the obvious counter is that the only thing they have to go back to legislatively are the wars on contraception and abortion rights.

    "I'm not familiar precisely with exactly what I said, but I stand by what I said, whatever it was." M Romney May 17, 2012

    by polidiscoursor on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:53:45 AM PDT

  •  What stands out for me is (6+ / 0-)

    that this seems to be fairly polarized with only 11% unsure.  I wouldn't have expected that.

    We've got to keep the message out and work on that 11%.

    I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

    by Satya1 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:56:26 AM PDT

    •  Use their playbook, and hammer Bain, Bain, Bain (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      TRPChicago

      until even the lowest of the low-information crowd get the message.

      GOP = Greedy One Percent

      by Palafox on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:23:01 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  AND Mitt's record as governor of Massachusetts. (1+ / 0-)
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        tb mare

        'Cause Bain and Massachusetts are all the man has going for him. (OK, plus a side trip to head the Utah Olympics committee right after a scandal took down several of the leadership and area officials. Actually, I'd like to hear Mitt expound on how juggling all that corporate sponsorship money qualifies him to be President.)

        Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

        by TRPChicago on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:47:46 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  How tremendously sad it is too see Republican (4+ / 0-)

    leaders knowingly working against the best interest of our country and our people, for electoral advantage.  While all politicians work take advantage of political opportunities, being willing to work against our collective best interest to win elections crosses a sad line, in my book.  

    It's been clear quite some time our economy has needed more stimulus, but not a chance in a GOP, or even before with the filibuster vulnerable Senate.  I will also always believe a sufficient number of the GOP realized the Dream Act was a step in the right direction, but refused to approve it because the Democrats might get the credit.  Today's articles about Alberto Gonzoles trying to create a face saving way back to the center for Romney, as well as Rubio's "Dream Act Lite," illustrate this as well.

    I'm still placing hope that the American electoral is aware, and wise enough, to think through the implications of electing any more Republicans of this caliber, or even re-electing enough of the House that they can continue to wield such vast and destructive power against the common good our our country and people of the world.

    My hope is that voters will see the wisdom of giving us Democrats a fair chance to show how we can lead our country, and the world, forward by re-electing President Obama, and returning control of both the House and Senate to the Democrats, who this time will no let the crazy filibuster rules paralize us from taking actions most of us realize we have to take to move foward in progressive ways.

    The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

    by HoundDog on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:58:12 AM PDT

  •  Another reason why I intensely loathe (13+ / 0-)

    this "equivalency" crap that "journalists" like to use: "both the right and left do it."

    NO. The left does not stall job creation to create a win for us.
    NO. The left does not suppress voter participation to win an election.
    NO. Obama does NOT lie like Romney or make shit up that will be lapped up by willing fucking idiots.

    We don't act like they do, goddammit!

    I was seeing what Adam had seen on the morning of his creation - the miracle, moment by moment, of naked existence. --The Doors of Perception, Aldous Huxley

    by Wildthumb on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:59:43 AM PDT

  •  There's a disconnection from reality though (3+ / 0-)
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    cany, elmo, lina

    A substantial proportion of those 49% will still vote for their incumbent Republican congressman or Republican candidate.

    Or not bother to vote.

    ..and we sang dirges in the dark the day - Do you recall what was the feel, the day, the music died -- Don McLean

    by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:59:54 AM PDT

    •  or vote against Obama (3+ / 0-)

      because they blame him for not fixing the economy anyway.

      I was thinking the same thing. It's like those polls with people saying they want lower taxes AND more government services.

      •  Therin lies the rub (0+ / 0-)

        A Parliamentary "system" would be better for Average Joe or Josephine or Caitlin than this corrupt nightmare.

        Fuck the Bush Pappa -appointed Supreme Justice and the rest of the singers.

        Until they make decent music.

        You really don't think Junior made any decisions on his own - Do you?

        Unravel.

        "W" would have had a hard time rubbing two coins together without an orgasm or a drink.

        We need to fix this. But there's no fixer in the picture.

        I'd rather be a "Tree-hugger" than a "Planet-raper" and a Destroyer of Worlds -- But I'm funny that way. I want a living Earth, not just a living room.

        by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 02:21:28 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  PPP's NC poll has Romney up 48-46 but . . . (2+ / 0-)
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    Khun David, Larsstephens

    Obama is only winning African Americans 76-20, which Tom Jensen acknowledges is "an unrealistically low share of African American voters for Obama." With a more realistic 90-10 split among AAs it would likely be an absolute tie, instead of the statistical tie that it is.

    •  It's a problem with statistical analysis (3+ / 0-)
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      rennert, lina, Larsstephens

      If your sample size is say 400 people, you may get a margin of error of +/- 4%.

      If you then break down that sample size by demographics, then the MoE gets much higher.

      If the AA population in that sample is 15%, then you are basing the results on a sample size of 60 individuals, of whom 46 said they would vote for the president, and 12 would vote against the president (with two saying they were unsure).

      You can do another poll, interview another 400 individuals, of whom 60 are African American, and find that 59 support the president, and one person is unsure.

      Now, if you were to poll African Americans alone, and poll 400 of them, you are much more likely to get a much narrower MoE.

      It's about time I changed my signature.

      by Khun David on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:40:33 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I wouldn't be so sure. (1+ / 0-)
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      lina

      I live in the greater Detroit/Pontiac metro area and I've heard lots of African Americans who, as much as I hate to say it, claim he's lost their vote because of his stance on gay marriage. They are very religious and have been preached to incessantly that gay marriage is wrong. Sad, but true.

  •  Wow, the question is poorly worded! (2+ / 0-)
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    PorridgeGun, TRPChicago

    I'm no polling expert, so maybe I don't know any better, but wouldn't it sound better as:

    "Q: Do you think the Republicans are intentionally stalling efforts to jumpstart the economy to ensure that Barack Obama is not reelected? (Y/N/U)"

    OR

    "Q: Do you think the Republicans are intentionally stalling efforts to jumpstart the economy to ensure that Barack Obama loses the 2012 election? (Y/N/U)"

  •  Every week, David; you need to ask this every week (3+ / 0-)
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    rja, TRPChicago, Larsstephens

    You ask it every week -- and you should, on the merits -- and other people who are missing the story will start asking it too.  This may be the most important thing that you can do in this election.  This is an astonishing result and needs attention.

    Pro-Occupy Democratic Candidate for California State Senate, District 29 & Occupy OC Civic Liaison.

    "I love this goddamn country, and we're going to take it back." -- Saul Alinsky

    by Seneca Doane on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:12:07 AM PDT

  •  GOP can always count on us to take the moral (4+ / 0-)
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    cany, TRPChicago, rhauenstein, tb mare

    high ground and in so doing completely let them off the hook when it comes to matters like these.  Dems not having the stomach to do what needs to be done in the messaging war is a core part of GOP's strategic choices.  Time to take the gloves or we'll be enjoying our moral high ground all by our lonesome, without the White House and as the minority in both chambers of Congress.

  •  Of the people that said "Yes"... (2+ / 0-)
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    PorridgeGun, elmo

    they should ask the follow up question:

    Would you still vote for Republicans?

    It wouldn't surprise me if many would say yes.  Thereby proving that many of these people would rather live in poverty than vote Democrat.

  •  Again, nothing to really complain about (0+ / 0-)

    in the topline numbers. However, I think we may be at the point where it is time to worry about how lukewarm hispanic voters are for the President. I'm going to keep an eye on that.

    Ok, so I read the polls.

    by andgarden on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:23:51 AM PDT

  •  Sounds like tin-foil hat time. (0+ / 0-)

    If I recall, the 2010 elections, the ones that swept in the Republican House majority, came after two years of Republicans not being able to do much of anything, and the economy stank to high hell.

    What exactly are/can the Republicans be doing now to sabotage the economy?

    Better question: If Republicans are the party of big corporations, why would they shoot their best benefactors in the foot?  To sabotage the economy, you have to sabotage them as well.

    Less better question: And...gee willickers...what are the Republicans doing to sabotage the economy in Europe, which has a way of spilling into the US, and

    another less better question -- especially with Democrats in charge of the key positions:

    What have Democrats done to help the housing market, which is a huge drag on the economy?

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:25:18 AM PDT

    •  With Congress locked down by the GOP, there's... (0+ / 0-)

      ... a limit on what this administration can do. Nevertheless, we'll see President Obama pressing those limits as the year goes on, just as he has earlier in 2012.

      What the GOP could do instead of doggedly blocking:

      -  Vote to rehire laid off government workers (firefighters and teachers, for example), and

      - Repair and rebuild infrastructure so there's something there for enterprise-that-is-no-way "free" (because of all the perks, breaks, waivers and subsidies it already gets) to exploit to provide private sector jobs. Republicans are supposed to be good at looking ahead, planning for the future, fixing what's broken. So ... start helping to fix it now.

      The GOP has been so visibly and quotably obstructionist that it'll be no problem putting together the ads that send that message home.

      Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

      by TRPChicago on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 11:00:30 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Those are valid points, but if that's the best (0+ / 0-)

        Democrats have got, they'd better go looking real hard for something else.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 11:09:28 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  What would you suggest? (0+ / 0-)

          I was suggesting what Republicans could do if they mean what they say. But Romney has come out against the first specific and I don't know of a Republican on Capitol Hill who'll dare consider the second, or his/her party will oppose the idea and, in this environment, the proposer.

          Given the realities of a polarized, locked-down mode, what's within the art of the possible?

          What's your list for the Democrats?

          Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

          by TRPChicago on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 01:33:52 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Obama needs coattails (2+ / 0-)
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    TRPChicago, rhauenstein

    Obama needs to stop running against "Congress" and start running against the GOPers in Congress.  Attacking "Congress" simply encourages people to vote out the incumbents which might simply shuffle the deck rather than change its makeup.  If Obama doesn't want to become a very lame duck on November 7th he needs to get a Congress that he can work with: Obama needs to structure a significant portion of his campaign effort so it provides coat tails for Democratic candidates.


    My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.—Carl Schurz
    Give 'em hell, Barry—Me

    by KingBolete on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:29:40 AM PDT

  •  Very troubling signs in this poll re Hispanics (1+ / 0-)
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    PorridgeGun

    and Obama.  Nearly 40 disapprove of Obama (both on his favorability and his job performance), and approve of Romeny.  Obama's team needs to make a push for the Hispanic vote now and hard, plus he needs to drive Romney's negatives up with them as well, now and quick.

  •  I think that the real issue is slighty more (1+ / 0-)
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    TRPChicago

    complex than simply a question of intentional destruction. Please understand me I do not doubt that Republicans are intentionally destroying the economy but their thinking is even crueler than it seems.

    To use an idea from William Jennings Bryant "They are crucifying us on a cross of free market philosophy. If you examine the outrageous accusations of socialism hurled at the President you find that the Republicans have become completely unhinged and have lost all contact with reality. The President is nowhere near being a socialist, much to my regret. They want to destroy the President and bring in political leadership that will privatize everything . The goal is to destroy every issue that Democrats believe in, destroy every group that make up the Democratic party that opposes privatization. All of our accomplishments, all of our ideals need to be wiped away to usher in a utopia of free market paradise. It is all about the policy. They dream of the era of the Gilded Age, the era of Robber Barons.

    They need to believe that Obama is a socialist because you can not fight to the death with someone who is reasonable. So they must paint him as Stalin, Hitler, Mao, as an enemy who wishes to destroy them. No matter that their invective has no relationship with the truth, the truth does not matter. This is a battle of ideology. They need their followers to hate Obama to accomplish their goal. And they do not care who gets hurt, this is all a part of a larger battle against an enemy of absolute evil.

    Notice that the rhetoric of the anti-choice movement only heats up during a Democratic administration. Or the anti-immigrant rhetoric. They demonize us because they must demonize us to accomplish their revolution.

    Yes I said revolution. Their goals are revolutionary, their tactics are scorched earth tactics and if they are successful in 5 years you will not recognize the place. they also realize that demographic trends are working against them and that  their window of opportunity is closing. So they are wage a desperate war. And they could win.

    The President's tactics of being reasonable and trying to work with them has been an abject failure. And we may be out of time. This is among other things a class war and too many fellow Democrats have signaled that they are sympathetic to the Republican position through the lack of support  for unions. And the DLC is not on the side of working people, they are on the side of the "Masters of the Universe". Many of them are in fact members of the exclusive finance club.

    So make no mistake the Republicans are playing foir keeps. Are we?

  •  not so bad (0+ / 0-)

    Only 32% say they will vote for Romney and if Obama gets anywhere near 40% of the white vote he is unbeatable.

  •  I think there will be more and more little (2+ / 0-)
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    TRPChicago, OHeyeO

    jabs in that direction until it's pretty easy to make a strong case that this is exactly what's happening.

    The problem with influencing the public is that ham-handed efforts are less successful at reaching the most people.  It takes subtlety, and that steady drip of low-key facts appearing regularly.

    By October I expect the Bain stuff will be fully embedded, Romney's disdain for the lower classes (everyone poorer than him?) firmly entrenched, and then it's time to go after Republicans in Congress for supporting and enabling the people who are personified by Romney.

    All this stuff is long term.  The pundits who are woe-is-meing about Obama's bad month are trying to create excitement and drama for ratings.  He typically lays very low, which is smart in a country where Dems are perceived to be weak.  His apparent weakness emboldens the opposition, and they never stop before going all the way over the cliff, at which point they can't deny the truly insane things they've said and done.  He ends up looking like the only sane adult in the room, and they wonder why no one is praising their toughness and courage.  No one likes bullies or liars.  He puts them in that corner again again.  

    I'm not looking for a love that will lift me up and carry me away. A love that will stroll alongside and make a few amusing comments will suffice.

    by I love OCD on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:48:38 AM PDT

  •  Are Republicans sabotaging economy? (0+ / 0-)

    I have noticed in recent weeks an increasing number of op-eds online concluding that yes, Republicans are sabotaging the economy.  

    But even if many in the media have come to this conclusion and a majority of Americans believe that Republicans are sabotaging the economy in their cynical attempt to make President Obama a one-term president, the question remains; What political price are Republicans paying for sabotaging the economy?

    Despite the consensus of Republican sabotage, President Obama continues to bear the blame for the economy.  And despite many in the media acknowledging that Republicans are deliberately crashing the economy, it hasn't yet changed the media meme that Obama is entirely responsible.

  •  Anyone else starting to get uneasy with PPP's (0+ / 0-)

    methodology? Obama's lead seems way too high in this poll, and if Barber doesn't pull off the big win that PPP projects compared to everyone else, I think that coupled with the Wisconsin errors would be enough to reconsider the reliability of their numbers.

    Unapologetic Obama supporter.

    by Red Sox on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 11:01:47 AM PDT

    •  Last week their poll was confirmed by Pew (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      itskevin

      who had the spread at 49-42, just a point different.

      Wisconsin errors? They missed the final margin by 4 points, which by normal standards for pollsters is a decent showing. They also correctly forecasted the one seat in the state senate potentially flipping in their previous poll, that one actually had the dem down 2.

      And there have been NO other polls released on AZ-8. You can't compare their poll to "everyone else" when no one else has released a poll on the race.

    •  PPP (0+ / 0-)

      I want to see them poll Iowa and Colorado again because they are big outliers in both states, giving Obama much larger leads than any other pollster, in Iowa +10, in Colorado +13.  I want to see them confirm their numbers or back off them, because they are out of line with everyone else, and if their numbers are bad, we are at Research 2000 all over again.

  •  I read the title of this diary (1+ / 0-)
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    Miggles

    and thought, "What's wrong with the other half?"

    •  Yes, the depressing thing is that 40+ percent (0+ / 0-)

      don't think the GOP is destroying the economy.  If this question were asked in any other western democracy on the planet, the results would probably be 95-5.  Go figure...

  •  Please start tracking Romney fave/ unfavorables! (1+ / 0-)
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    itskevin
  •  Now the GOP is going after Holder (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    rhauenstein

    Their partisan bigotry and hate is on full display.

  •  YES, the GOP is sabotaging Obama's presidency (0+ / 0-)

    I have been so disturbed about this obvious GOP plan esp. after hearing Robert Draper discuss this very topic in his new book-"Do Not Ask What Good We Do".

    Draper outlines that 14 GOP congress members plus Frank Luntz met the night of Obama's inauguration in 2009 to plan a way to destroy Obama's presidency.

    Mitch McConnell starts off with his main meme:The GOP wants to see that Obama is a 1 term president. The House GOP refuses to pass any bills to help the economy, the Senate GOP constantly filibusters or puts a "hold" on anything Obama promotes to change the downward spiral of this economy. AND they are getting away with it. The MEDIA just lets it pass on by--they make no big deal of it.

    I sent an email to Chuck Todd on MSNBC this am about why he doesn't have Draper on and why the MEDIA is letting the GOP get away with their sabotage. Here's what he says:
    .........................
    I've had Draper on a few times... perhaps some of us in the beltway are simply numb to this stuff since every new president brings a promise by the out party to make that president a one-termer, though the rhetoric has escalated to new heights with this one.
    .........................

    A pretty lame, pathetic and  dishonest response I'd say!!!

  •  SABOTAGE YOU SAY!! (0+ / 0-)

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/...
    CLEARLY THE DOUBLE STANDARD IS OBVIOUS

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