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So Mitt Romney has a new ad in which he uses President Obama's "the private sector is doing fine" remark—which was about private sector job growth compared public sector job losses—to falsely claim that the president thinks the economy as a whole is "doing fine."

You can watch the ad on the right side of this post, but if you'd rather be spared the agony, it plays the president's words not once, not twice, but three times—and utterly misrepresents the context in which he said them. The premise of the ad is that President Obama's comments show that he doesn't understand the economy needs help, but the whole reason the president was talking about the economy in the first place was to urge Congress to take action on jobs plan—to strengthen the economy.

The ad claims the president's comments were designed to dismiss the challenges faced by struggling middle-class workers and underwater homeowners, but the whole reason President Obama proposed his jobs plan in the first place was because he understands they need help. The president has put forward a plan and he's urged Congress to act. It's Mitt Romney and his fellow Republicans who have refused to budge.

Of course, it's not surprising that Mitt Romney would release an ad based on such a blatantly dishonest premise. Lying is what Romney does best. But this lie isn't a good one. Nobody is going to believe that President Obama actually is satisfied with the current state of the economy—if he were, then why is he talking about ways to improve the economy? And why are Republicans attacking his proposals?

Not even Mitt Romney believes the president is satisfied with where things are. And if he did believe it, he wouldn't spend a good chunk of every stump speech he delivers whining about how President Obama blames George W. Bush for the economic challenges we face.

It is clear, however, that Mitt Romney does believe in one thing: that he can lie his way into the White House. And instead of making the case against President Obama's jobs plan on the merits, Romney thinks he can simply claim Obama doesn't have one.

Originally posted to The Jed Report on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 06:22 AM PDT.

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  •  This is the entirety of their campaign strategy. (21+ / 0-)


    Keep on lying.

    Don't apologize for it, because apologies make you look weak.

    Instead, rely on the right-wing noise machine to have your back, to never report on any accusations that you are lying.

    Rely on the closed loop of right-wing talk radio, television, and blogs to keep repeating your lies for you, and supporting you unquestioned.

    It's so very sad and demented, and unethical, but that's the way I see this campaign shaping up.  And I worry, because I don't thing President Obama is unethical enough to engage in a similar type of campaign.

    DailyKos: Saving us from "The Oligarhy of Teh Stupid", one diary at a time.

    by Exurban Mom on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 06:41:47 AM PDT

    •  We need to spend more energy countering (9+ / 0-)

      his lies, and less time making fun of him. There was so much humor in the Repuke selection process, it would have been malpractice to not savor every bit. But now, he's the guy we have to demolish, or be stuck with him. I know it's hard, with so much fodder, but we have to really start hitting hard on his problem with the truth. Not as a side note, because it's the core of that man. His lies and his cruelty.

      Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

      by HappyinNM on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 07:46:43 AM PDT

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      •  Obama to speak at 1:45 est (0+ / 0-)

        just thought I'd interject that tidbit.

        "Tax cuts for the 1% create jobs." -- Republicans, HAHAHA - in China

        by MartyM on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:07:35 AM PDT

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      •  My reply to most any wingnut (4+ / 0-)

        More private sector jobs were created in each and every year of the Obama adminstration than in ALL 8 YEARS the George Bush administration combined.

        Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive, sick children can get insurance, college kids can stay on their parents plans and I am DAMN GLAD Obama's in the White House.

        Newt Gingrich: Believes marriage is between one man and a series of ever younger women. Wife #1 born ~ 1936, divorced when in her mid-40s...Wife #2 born ~1947, divorced when in her mid-40s...Wife #3 born ~1966.

        by trillian on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 09:29:26 AM PDT

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    •  I am not surprised, isn't that what (5+ / 0-)

      Romney did at Bain, lies, lies and more lies. I wonder how many companies that they forced into bankruptcy were promised help.
      Romney has had success with his lies, so the behavior has been reinforced over the years, and that is why he continues. What does the Morman church say about lying? I know one of the 10 commandments says, you shall not bear fales witness, or translation, "thou shall not lie".
      There is also the "Golden Rule", which is not restricted to any religon, "treat others as you would like to be treated". Seems to me Willard doesn't practice this either.

  •  For Cripes Sakes the Right Does NOT Argue. (13+ / 0-)

    They're driving emotion and they're good at it. Emotion doesn't have to make sense, it only needs to make TURNOUT.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 06:48:48 AM PDT

    •  Exactly, and their ads primarily (1+ / 0-)
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      appeal to emotion. They are great at creating and maintaining fear.

      Each election the GOP turns out a rag-bag of completely made up , successful, reasons for fearing the Democrats:

              -   they will take away your Bibles
               -   they will take away your guns
      These are often done quietly through mailings to right wingers, to Republicans, and repeated at lower level campaign events.

      "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

      by Gorette on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:01:19 AM PDT

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    •  All they have to do is create the illusion that (0+ / 0-)

      they have a legitimate alternative, and that the election is still close, and they get passive voters thinking that they do offer an actual alternative.
      Then the vote stays close, and they can win with voter suppression and fraud in a couple of swing state counties.

      You can't make this stuff up.

      by David54 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:08:52 AM PDT

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  •  If I heard Romney say (3+ / 0-)
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    that the sun rose this morning, I would look out the window to verify it.

  •  the problem with lying (6+ / 0-)

    The problem with lying is that eventually, internal inconsistancies will build up and threaten to overwhelm logic and reason.  People ignore the inconsistancies in their own belief sets, but they fester in the back of the mind, worry you at night as you try to gloss over them.

    If you're lucky, the cognitive dissonance builds until they can't take it any more, and eventually they admit to themselves and others that they are wrong.

    It's important to make sure that there is a low cost to your opponents associated with admitting that they were wrong.  Don't hammer them over past mistakes, but welcome them into the fold, make their transition pleasant.

    •  But there are no "internal inconsistencies" (1+ / 0-)
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      with this ad.

      The  "internal inconsistencies" are with the President's remark.  Even IN context, they make no sense.  The private sector is not doing fine by any metric.. even compared to the dismal public sector numbers, the private sector is not-quite-so-dismal.. that is not "fine".  And no American would think so.

      The problem for the President with this Romney ad is that it "feels" right.

      •  He said, (3+ / 0-)

        "The private sector is doing fine." Translation: it's moving in the right direction. It works even out of context. All the pearl-grabbers over last month's job numbers remained silent during the entire 8 years of Bush (average job growth 11,000/month).

        Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

        by HappyinNM on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 07:54:33 AM PDT

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      •  Certain parts of the private sector is doing quite (1+ / 0-)
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        well.  For instance, on December 7, 2011, Ernst and Young reported that the Fortune 1000 was sitting on cash reserves of $2 trillion.

        The above forecast for this year by Ernst and Young's investment group indicate that much of the equity capital market, Vergers and Acquisitions, Divestitures for capital accumulation, Private Equity all look pretty rosy for 2012, this year.

        So the fat cat part of the economy is doing OK, making money, doing deals, buying back shares instead of investing some of that $2T in R&D, investing in plant and equipment, their own infrastructure and so on.  But I can guarantee that if any of these companies did decide to build  a new manufacturing facility in the United States, they would approach half a dozen states (or more) and cry poor mouth to get a bidding war going between the states and cities involved, even if they had already selected the site in advance based on known things like workforce quantity and quality, freight costs associated with distance to raw materials, distance to markets, is the product weight gaining or weight losing as it goes through the manufacturing process (this is a major determinant of whether a company locates manufacturing near the market or near raw materials, and it is a major reason why Youngstown, Ohio no longer is a major player in the steel business, the transportation economics simply worked against Youngstown), tax breaks, highway and other infrastructure, state and local taxes, and quite a few other factors.  Anyway, the bottom line is that cash rich companies may choose to relocate facilities or HQ offices, and each and every one of them will claim poor mouth, work the locations for corporate welfare, play cities and states off from one another, in a total sense of entitlement that corporate America has.

        Make no mistake, the real sense of entitlement in America rests inside corporate boardrooms, all over America.

        But back to my point, the banks got bailed out and they are doing quite well.  Thanks to Obama, the auto industry got bailed out and they are doing well.  Other Fortune 1000 companies are very profitable, have Trillions in cash on hand, and they are doing quite well.

        What part of the private economy isn't doing well?  Mainly the parts that are linked to low and middle income Americans.  Mortgages.  College loans, which the Republicans are trying to double the interest rates on, likely as the result of the Obama administration taking the skim away from private banking interests, who of course are Republican investors and funders.  Public employees, public union members, school teachers, fire fighters, policemen and women, specifically, the groups of people targeted by Radical Republicans in our states, cities and nation.  The lost purchasing power by the 450,000 public employees laid off in the past year are creating lower demand for goods and services in the private economy in nearly every state and city in America.

        So I disagree that the private sector is not doing fine by ANY metric, some segments are doing fine my many metrics.

        Republicans are like alligators. All mouth and no ears.

        by Ohiodem1 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:16:27 AM PDT

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        •  Jobs.. we are talking about jobs.. (0+ / 0-)

          The president was talking about jobs.

          Not private sector profits.. jobs.  The figure 4.3 million is meaningless to the 15 million people still out of work.  THEY are not doing fine.. they want a job.

          •  Private investment in new domestic productive (1+ / 0-)
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            capacity to drive future profits will create some of those jobs.  Public investment to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure works to benefit those same companies investing in domestic productive capacity, a synergistic public-private investment strategy, if you will, will create jobs.  Construction jobs have strong multipliers because the wages in construction, then manufacturing are good, and the workers spend their wages, and don't hoard their profits like the Fortune 1000 sector is doing.

            You want jobs, invest in what it takes to create them.  There is a lot of very unproductive cash resources in our economy.  That cash is becoming a burden on investors because it is not being spent on capital equipment which will lead to both more jobs and profits to the stakeholders.

            Far too much of American capital is being exported to build productive capacity outside the United States.  Or to buy back shares.  Or to fund political campaigns.  That's where millions of our jobs are.  Many of our companies are more willing to invest in politicians than they are to invest in their own companies.

            Republicans are like alligators. All mouth and no ears.

            by Ohiodem1 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:35:16 AM PDT

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  •  I can top you (3+ / 0-)
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    in lies that make no sense. Josh "The Empty Suit" Mandel is running for U.S. Senate in Ohio against Senator Sherrod Brown (please support him; he is one of our better progressives in Congress, and Mandel is simply the worst candidate in the country — with white-hot ambitions to be President by the time he's in his early 40s).

    Mandel has been claiming that he has all this secret support from labor leaders around the state — never mind that Sherrod has every union endorsement and that Mandel, in his huge pile of special interest money, has no one penny of labor money.

    What's so ridiculous is that a standard Republican talking point is that unions are evil and being supported b "union bosses" proves you are under the thumb of big, evil, infinitely powerful, business-destroying labor.

    What the ... ?

    Oh right, it's The Empty Suit. When special interests like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce have already spent nine million in ads lying about your opponent, you don't have to make sense.

    Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07.

    by anastasia p on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 07:12:44 AM PDT

    •  yeah (0+ / 0-)

      support by the unions is bad, but secret support of union leaders is good?

      I guess that makes sense if you think corrupting the union leaders and getting them to sell out their rank and file is a good thing.  Which Republicans do.

      all morals are relative, but some are more relative than others.

      by happymisanthropy on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 02:42:23 PM PDT

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  •  You're dim, Jed! (5+ / 0-)
    Lying is what Mitt Romney does best
    I think putting his foot in his mouth is what he does best, and second place is probably giving normal people the creeps.

    He's not really a very good liar, despite having so much practice.

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'y a aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il y a toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

    by blue aardvark on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 07:15:51 AM PDT

  •  Lie and buy (10+ / 0-)

    that he can lie and buy his way into the White House.

    Unbelievable that right now the election is basically a toss-up.  

    MItt's general campaign strategy is to trade in the etch-a-sketch for a magic 8 ball.

    by jackandjill on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 07:32:26 AM PDT

    •  Was going to say the same thing... (3+ / 0-)
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      Rmoney will lie and buy his way to the White House, and a lot of people may very well die becuase of it.

      This is a scary election.

      •  And think of (0+ / 0-)

        who he will nominate to the Supreme Court.  I need to move to Sweden.

        MItt's general campaign strategy is to trade in the etch-a-sketch for a magic 8 ball.

        by jackandjill on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:10:04 AM PDT

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      •  Yes, because we will go to war with Iran if Mitt (1+ / 0-)
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        is elected.  He has the same neocon advisers that created the Axis of Evil, and they have been pining for war with Iran for the last 20 years, and see one of their biggest failures as not getting Cheney/Bush to get that war going.

        Mitt, I have a clue for you, Iran has a competent military that will fight back.

        Republicans are like alligators. All mouth and no ears.

        by Ohiodem1 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:20:54 AM PDT

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      •  What scares me is (2+ / 0-)
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        the possibility of what happened in Ohio where voters had buyers' remorse about (just barely) electing Kasich governor long before he was even sworn in. And then they were saying, "But we didn't realize ..." Ok, Kasich wasn't all that open about his hostility toward workers and women, although his fealty to his wealthy cronies and donors should have been obvious to anyone paying attention. But Rmoney is a veritable gaffe machine, making it obvious constantly that he will dismantle the economy and give all our money to the ultra-wealthy while taking away everything that provides quality of life for regular working people. This is no mystery. He practically wears it on his forehead. He even LOOKS like the heartless corporate beancounter who swoops into your factory or business and lays off 90% of you with a small smirk and a phony, "Gee I'm sorry but it's just business." It's obvious this is who he is. If he is elected and anyone I know tries to say afterward they didn't realize, I will smack them.

        Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07.

        by anastasia p on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:21:40 AM PDT

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    •  The lies without the billionaires would not (1+ / 0-)
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      work. It's only because of his crony billionaires that he stands a chance.

      "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

      by Gorette on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:05:14 AM PDT

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    •  Yes, it is (1+ / 0-)
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      Rmoney is so transparently out of touch with average workers. There is NOTHING about him that says or has ever said he gets the average person's situation. He can say the words but his actions, his previous remarks, and even his mannerisms say otherwise. He's got to lie and buy. I cannot believe this is a toss-up. After the Occupy movement and how it increased awareness of the gap between the 99% and the 1% and finally kicking off conversations about how Wall Street has destroyed America, it's beyond my understanding that the candidate that embodies everything we've now come to realize is wrecking the country — a man who should be the very worst candidate for this year — is running only a tad behind the President.

      Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07.

      by anastasia p on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:24:37 AM PDT

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  •  He's right... (7+ / 0-)

    he CAN lie his way into the White House. In fact, the succesfull sale of these lies is the only way he could get there.
    What else has he got? Can he run on the merits of supply side economic theory? job outsourcing? de-regulation? lower taxes for the "job providers"?
    The bullshit the GOP has been slinging for decades CLEARLY doesn't work. Lies, and fear mongering, and a mountain of SuperPAC money to keep them coming. rombots campaign in a nutshell.

  •  "the private sector is doing fine" (6+ / 0-)

    I agree

    The corporations are making a big profits  

    Heads of corporations are making big money

    Its the public  .... the 99%  thats not doing well

    •  It is counter productive for Democrats to repeat (2+ / 0-)
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      that the Private Sector is doing fine.  The Obama campaign recognizes these were not the right words to use, and they are not repeating, "The private sector is doing fine".

      Most if not most all people who work or seek employment in the private sector identify as having their economic situation heavily determined by the private sector.  

      They do not see the private sector as doing well and those who repeat that this sector is doing fine damage their credibility.

      The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

      by nextstep on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:09:03 AM PDT

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      •  And if he said "the private sector is struggling" (1+ / 0-)
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        (a horrible message, in fact) we would be shrieking and tearing out our hair over THAT.

        Problem is, you can take ANYTHING out of context and twist it — and they will. And rending our garments and blaming ourselves isn't going to change that.

        Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07.

        by anastasia p on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:17:41 AM PDT

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        •  A better alternative would have been to not (0+ / 0-)

          mention how well the private sector was doing and just address declines in state and local government workers.  If he wanted to mention the private sector, he could have left it as employment gains.  

          The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

          by nextstep on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:44:15 AM PDT

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    •  I am glad you wrote this, because that is exactly (1+ / 0-)
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      my take on what the President said. Also don't forget, the stock market, which is mostly comprised of companies in the private sector is doing just fine as well, a whole lot better than in 2008, I beleive.

  •  Oh Jed, Jed, Jed... (3+ / 0-)
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    ... when have ANY of Mittens' lies made sense?

    Here's the problem with the typical 99%'er who votes Republican - they don't CARE if it makes sense. A Republican said it, Fox News and Rush Limbaugh backed it up, and they saw it in an ad being repeated over and over an over and over on the television, so it MUST be true.

    Hence two of my female friends who are working multiple jobs and STILL not making ends meet, who happily use birth control unaware that the Republicans want to take it away from them, but who will vote for Mitt and every other Republican on the ballot from senator to dog catcher because Obama runs all over the world apologizing for America ("I've heard a TAPE of him saying it!!!!" one told me) and because he's craftily waiting for his second term to take away their guns (or at least their ammo).

    You can talk "sense" to them until you're blue in the face (believe me, I've tried), but they Will. Not. Listen.

    It's depressing.

    I vote we run Rick Scott out of Florida on a high-speed rail.

    by ObamOcala on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 07:45:18 AM PDT

    •  It is depressing. Jed knows what he's (2+ / 0-)
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      talking about. He knows better than anyone here how to best present the situation of Mitt's lies, imo.

      So yes, the people who will vote on the fears the GOP creates, which are also LIES, of course, they depress me as well. Before the gun lie they used "Democrats if elected will take away your Bibles!" I saw such a letter they used during the Bush years.

      The thing is science shows that once people hear a lie they will continue to believe it. Even if you can temporarily convince them otherwise, they will most likely revert, the lie sticks in the mind.

      You live in Ocala? I live in McIntosh! Really, you put Ickky Rickky on a rail and send him north and I'll give him a big push as he passes north.

      "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

      by Gorette on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:11:36 AM PDT

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  •  Just dub in Romney's solution (4+ / 0-)

    Romney's solution to the foreclosure crisis is to "let it hit bottom".

    You could just about do the same commercial and run Romney's comment in a loop instead of Obama's.

    •  Why not, there is so much stupid shit (1+ / 0-)
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      he has said, that the ads write themselves. The problem for the Obama campaign is that it has standards. Those who will be swayed with Romney's lies are, for lack of a better word, "stupid". The Obama campaign can't get away with that, his supporters or almost supporter have some degree of intelligence and they want to be careful not to insult that intelligence.  Romney doesn't give a shit, he just wants the "stupid", to get out to vote and he will do all he can to insure that, lie, cheat and steal, if need be. The campaign he is running should automatically disqualify him from holding the office, but the "stupid", don't know that, they think it is just a game and winning is everything. Just so they can say they won.

    •  Yes, Mitt would love to be the next Bernard Baruch (0+ / 0-)

      that comes in and buys up all the bankrupt assets and companies for cents on the dollar.  That's how to make billions during a recession or depression.  Kill off companies and buy them for pennies.

      Republicans are like alligators. All mouth and no ears.

      by Ohiodem1 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:23:43 AM PDT

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  •  Straws, grasping at (0+ / 0-)
    Of course, it's not surprising that Mitt Romney would release an ad based on such a blatantly dishonest premise. Lying is what Romney does best. But this lie isn't a good one. Nobody is going to believe that President Obama actually is satisfied with the current state of the economy—if he were, then why is he talking about ways to improve the economy? And why are Republicans attacking his proposals?

    slutty voter for a "dangerous president"; Präsidentenelf-maßschach; Warning-Some Snark Above"Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) "Sciant terra viam monstrare." 政治委员, 政委!

    by annieli on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 07:56:37 AM PDT

  •  Lie his way in with help from a few slimy (1+ / 0-)
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    billionaires. Like Adelson, gambling giant.

    What America does not realize is that the democracy we thought we had has been taken over by billionaires and some mega-millionaires. They got us the Republican House which has thwarted the elected president's agenda. Now they are trying to buy the presidency as well so they can have full control.

    That is a plutocracy where the rich reign, that's what we already have, but it will become worse should Romney win. If that happens this country will be ruined. And only a revolution would restore the democracy.

    "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

    by Gorette on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 07:57:14 AM PDT

  •  "He did say the words, that's his voice" (2+ / 0-)
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    was how Romney's campaign defended Romney's ad where the President was quoting McCain and they cut off the quote to make it look like it was something the President said.

    From TPM


    Romney senior New Hampshire adviser Tom Rath tells CBS News the ad is “exactly what we want.”

        “They were using McCain’s words to make fun of McCain. And we’re using the exact same technique,” he said.

        Pressed on whether it was unfair to lop off the top of Mr. Obama’s comments — which would show the president was quoting the McCain camp — Rath said, “He did say the words. That’s his voice.”

        He then [suggested] that the more people discuss the ad, the better it is for the Romney campaign.

    and Romney himself said:
    "There was no hidden effort on the part of our campaign. It was instead to point out that what's sauce for the goose is now sauce for the gander," Romney said, after addressing more than 300 employees of a downtown insurance company. "This ad points out, now, guess what, it's your turn. The same lines used on John McCain are now going to be used on you, which is that this economy is going to be your albatross."
    Which doesn't even make sense since the President was quoting McCain.

    Romney is not an ethical person.

  •  Has Romney EVER made a political ad that doesn't (2+ / 0-)
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    reveal he believes his audience is stupid?  I've never seen one.

  •  Lying is what Romney does most. (2+ / 0-)
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    I can't imagine it's what he does best, though. He's terrible at it.

    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

    by NMDad on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:03:28 AM PDT

  •  I think this ad is devastating (1+ / 0-)
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    Yes. Romney is lying. Let's all acknowledge that.

    This doesn't matter.

    Let me repeat this again so that we all have it clear in our heads.

    The fact that the ad lies does not matter

    What matters is the picture that it paints of the President, and how that picture is received. And that picture is one of a President that is hopelessly out of touch. That is exactly what Obama cannot afford.

    I think Obama was hoping that his usual campaign strategy of waiting until after August and letting his proxies do most of the early image crafting work would pay off again. Unfortunately it appears that he's up against a much better vetted candidate now. I don't think he's going to get away with "I feel your pain" this time. He's going to have to come up with a simple, effective, concrete proposal for how he's going to fix the economy, and he's going to have to have a simple, effective, concrete answer for why Romney's proposals won't work. Without those, he's in trouble.

    •  Oh yeah, right (1+ / 0-)
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      I just love this attitude that our opponents are flawless, on target and all-powerful and there is absolutely no way we can fight back because every single thing we do is wrong, our message is always wrong, and it never comes across with the hard-hitting clarity theirs does.

      Except I believe you are wrong, and are filtering everything through a heavy gray filter of deep and potentially disabling pessimism.

      Seriously — you don't look at Rmoney, a guy who practically has "Mean Mr. Moneybags" tattooed on his forehead, and think people won't see HIM as out of touch? Please.

      Obama HAS come up with a "simple concrete proposal" (as "simple" and "concrete" as anything effective can be) and hammered it over and over and over and over. It's what this is taken out of context from. But obviously, you feel there is nothing we can do that isn't a hapless mistake.

      Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07.

      by anastasia p on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:14:09 AM PDT

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  •  The only question is: "When will Wolf Blitzer, (2+ / 0-)
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    Matt Sawyer (whatever), Brian Williams etc. finally start saying ' OK, enough is enough, this is very insulting to my intelligence to even have to hear this bullshit, I'm not going to repeat lies for your sake. Etc. "

    The media has got to start feeling some real heat regarding honest reporting.

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:05:59 AM PDT

  •  The ironic thing to me is (0+ / 0-)

    I think if Romney had run as a center-right candidate, he'd win fairly comfortable in the fall as too many centrists have fallen out of love with Obama.

    The fact that he had to run so far to the right and continues to do so, gives Obama a fighting chance.

    •  Since "centrists" are fictional (2+ / 0-)
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      it's hard to figure out what you're taking about. I just saw a poll yesterday — and comments here seem to bear it out — that they only people who were "in love" with Obama and have now "fallen out of love" are ultra-progressives, who may have had unreasonable expectations.

      Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07.

      by anastasia p on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:16:19 AM PDT

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      •  they aren't fictional (0+ / 0-)

        there are people who are not strongly left or strongly right, many of them are the notorious low information voters.

        They certainly lean one way or the other when pushed, but they also are willing to cross over. Whether they are Reagan Dems, or Obama Reps.

      •  They are not husband is one. (0+ / 0-)

        He is a Democrat but a very conservative one.  He is not nearly as politically in tuned as I am and he only votes in national elections except in the rarest of occasions. He hates to talk politics, he never reads about it and so he is very much a low info voter IMO.  He even spouts of right wing talking points without even knowing they are right wing.  He is center of the aisle with a slight left lean at best....even living and sleeping with a Progressive, so I am certain he is not the only one in the nation.

  •  it is unthinkable that he become President (2+ / 0-)
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    Not only does he lie, he is incompetent.

    I was, like many people very, distrubed by his remark about firefighters, teachers.  I was also taken aback by his response saying that this was not something the Federal government was involved in. That he does not know how much of a role the federal government plays in funding these jobs is, well, astonishing.  Especially since he was a governor...

    You know what, I like to hire people who know what they are doing...


    •  Well, he likes to fire people like you. (1+ / 0-)
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      I agree it is unthinkable, not just because of how bad he is and his positions, owing the RIght, but because if he is elected it will be solely because of fear and the billionaires who will get paid back by decreased regulations on everything and more tax breaks for the wealthy. The plutocracy will be in full flower and the 99% will be damned, without social security, medicaid and medicare, without enough teachers, firefighters and police.

      If Romney wins, I'll want to leave.

      "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

      by Gorette on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:19:18 AM PDT

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  •  Romney states that Obama is anti-business... (1+ / 0-)
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    The Dow average is nearing 12, was up over 70points earlier this morning. CORPORATIONS are making record profits. Obviously, Romney it lying on this.

     Romney states that Obama has mismanaged the recovery, yet the "bailout" saved millions of jobs and the GM recovery saved an entire US industry and all its allied manufacturers. Romney would have let them all go down.

    Romney states the Obama health reform act is causing businesses to not hire more workers, and on his first day in office, he would end it. He also stated that he would end the Department of Education, and the Environmental Protection Agency, stating they are "over regulating" businesses.
    Romney has denied saying that he would do these things.

    Romney has stated that the US tax rate on corporations and the very rich "job producers" are the world's highest. This is false, and the rich have had very low taxes for almost a decade and we still have few jobs.

    Romney and the republicans have nothing but lies to offer, but they have tons of cash enabling them to spread those lies. The republicans are owned by the very rich who would benefit most from having the GOP take more power in the US.

     They are buying our country.

    Retired AFSCME Steward and licensed gun carrying progressive veteran.

    by old mark on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:14:58 AM PDT

    •  I think the democracy has already been bought. (0+ / 0-)

      The billionaires bought the House and now are buying the presidency, but buying just the House almost stopped government at the federal level. This is now a plutocracy. The rich rule already.

      "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

      by Gorette on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:22:09 AM PDT

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  •  Obama needs to call Mitt a bold faced liar (1+ / 0-)
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    It seems the only way the press is going to notice Mitt's lies is for Obama to make it an issue. Surrogates won't do the trick. If Obama says he's amazed at the lies and dishonesty coming from Romney and his campaign; the press as well as the Romney folks will act shocked and demand proof. At that point Obama can list them one by one in front of all to see and debate. I predict the MSM will cover that episode.

  •  Then the Obama response is clear: (3+ / 0-)
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    Announcer: Mitt Romney says he he has the answer to revitalizing the American economy...

    Repeated clip of Mitt Romney: I like being able to fire people!  I like being able to fire people!  I like being able to fire people...

    Announcer: Mitt Romney...job creator?

    Clip of Mitt Romney I like being able to fire people!

    Announcer: Hardly.

    What's sauce for the gander...

    All in good sport...

    I'll just munch on a chocolatey dough confectionary treat while you're editing...


    •  Make an ad with Romney's face inside a (2+ / 0-)

      chocolate donut. Here's what you get with Romney a big donut hole, a big zero because that's all he is. A pretty face with nothing inside, a hollow man. Ready to do what his billionaire buddies tell him to do. They would get all the advantages and the 99% would get zero.

      "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

      by Gorette on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:24:39 AM PDT

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  •  A different way of looking at this (2+ / 0-)
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    Back when Al Franken was on the radio and writing books, he would talk about the GOP's embrace of the "bitch-slap principle" -- used most effectively against John Kerry in 2004.

    I don't think Team Romney runs ads like this because they think they're going to convince anyone that Obama thinks the economy is fine. It's more primal than that. It's about asserting one's will. It's about sending the message that they can do what they want with impunity. They know an ad like this will provoke a response, and they're emboldened by being able to say "F*ck you, we do what we feel like doing."

    The GOP base, of course, loves crap like this. Feeds their John Wayne/Rambo fantasies, which is all about projecting "strength" regardless of the merits.

    They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time. -- Brian Fantana

    by IndyScott on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:19:42 AM PDT

  •  Multiple Positions (0+ / 0-)

    On any given topic Mitt Romney has more positions than the Kama Sutra. And he uses these to screw anybody he can.

  •  good ad aimed at stupid people (0+ / 0-)

    Everyone with half a brain knows what obama meant and Polling suggests  people still blame Bush for the economic mess. Romney can't just win the presidency without saying how he would fix things and all he is promising is to screw everyone but the rich.

  •  Barack Obama's full quote for anyone who's (1+ / 0-)
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    Question: "What about the Republicans saying that you're blaming the Europeans for the failure of your own policies?"

    "The truth of the matter is that, as I said we've created 4.3 million jobs over the last two -- 27 months; over 800,000 just this year alone. The private sector is doing fine.

    "Where we're seeing weaknesses in our economy have to do with state and local government, oftentimes cuts initiated by, you know, governors or mayors who are not getting the kind of help that they have in the past from the federal government and who don't have the same kind of flexibility as the federal government in dealing with fewer revenues coming in.

    "And so, you know, if -- if Republicans want to be helpful, if they really want to move forward and put people back to work, what they should be thinking about is how do we help state and local governments and how do we help the construction industry.

    "Because the recipes that they're promoting are basically the kinds of policies that would add weakness to -- to the economy, would result in further layoffs, would not provide relief in the housing market, and would result, I think most economists estimate, in lower growth and fewer jobs, not more."


    Their In-Context features are the only valuable things politifact's been putting out lately.

    Any time that the people from politifact are speaking, hold your nose. They are, however, minimally useful as a source of full in-context quotes.

    An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

    by OllieGarkey on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:32:32 AM PDT

  •  Stage Four of the Counterrevolution (0+ / 0-)

    There is a coherent plan behind what Republicans have been doing for the last several years:

    1) First, kill the liberal program once and for all. Liberals made the tactical mistake of basing their entire political program on the assumed ability to continue government spending. Following the advice of Grover Norquist, Republicans decided to kill liberalism once and for all, with a single stroke, by amassing such enormous debt as to convince most voters that further spending was unaffordable and impossible. This debt was racked up over just a few years, through two enormously expensive simultaneous wars, a costly pharmaceuticals-for-seniors "reform" that wasn't even budgeted, and the obscenely wasteful "Bush tax cuts" (tax kickbacks to the rich).

    2) Second, crash the economy and create a Depression. This was done by blocking any regulation of Wall Street and encouraging dangerous forms of trading of financial products bound to eventually blow up.

    3) Block recovery by continuing to deny the Democrat President the only tool he has for rebuilding the economy: government stimulus spending; meanwhile, fight tooth and nail to retain the Bush tax kickbacks so as to further starve government of revenue. This is what Norquist called "shrinking government to the point it can be drowned in the bathtub like a baby."

    4) The final stage, which will be accomplished under President Romney: Liquidation. Liquidate what remains of government regulation of business. Liquidate environmental protection. Liquidate public payrolls. Liquidate public education. Liquidate what remains of Social Security and other forms of public assistance. Liquidate the now-superfluous middle class, since it is no longer needed either as labor or as market (there are far more profitable labor and market opportunities overseas). Romney is the logical choice to head this process: all his business experience is in liquidating struggling enterprises and stripping them of their assets.    

  •  They say Obama acts beneath the Presidency? (0+ / 0-)

    This is below a properly matured high school student.

  •  if this country is stupid enough (0+ / 0-)

    to elect Mitt POTUS, then it deserves what it gets.

    Its just baffling to me that anyone would think putting this man in charge is a good idea. I dont understand it at all.

    The threat to our way of life comes from corporations, and the solution is to shrink corporations while freeing government from corporate control.

    by gbaked on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:42:22 AM PDT

  •  Lying is what Mitt Romney does best ... because (0+ / 0-)

    Mitt Romney = Liar. It really is that simple.

    Now THAT's the president I voted for!

    by RevJoe on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:58:10 AM PDT

  •  Mitt Romney's whole life taught he to lie (0+ / 0-)

    Rich, privileged prep school thug was in so-called religious fairy tales of Jesus palling around with American Indians (and probably  riding around on dinosaurs on the weekends) and promises that he will become a god.  There's no way he even knows what the truth really is.

  •  Well they've had plenty of practice (0+ / 0-)

    Welcome to ACA Act II!  The MSM allowed these bastards to get away will all their death panel lies during the healthcare debate.  So they're doing it again and will most likely get away with it,  But this time they will have the help millions from their rich pals like the Koch brothers.  Mittens " Tricky Dick" Romney is Nixon and his secret plan to end the Viet Nam war all over again,  We all know what he will do when/if he gets in the WH.....whatever the teabaggers and "Eddie Munster" Ryan want!

    Mr. Boehner, where are the jobs?

    by Tx LIberal on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 09:57:14 AM PDT

  •  They ripped off that ad... (0+ / 0-)

    Was watching CurrentTV this morning and the newsreader, Jacki Schechner showed the Romney ad side by side with one Obama ran in 2008. the two are almost the same - right down to the music and graphics. either they ripped it off or they're using the same ad agency who is too lazy to think up a new concept.
    D'oh! Not only is Romney a lying sack of sh*t, he's a plagiarist as well!

    Isn’t it ironic to think that man might determine his own future by something so seemingly trivial as the choice of an insect spray. ~ Rachel Carson, Silent Spring ~

    by MA Liberal on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 10:03:39 AM PDT

  •  Correction: (0+ / 0-)

    Lying is what Mitty does constantly.

    "The test of our progress is not whether we add to the abundance of those who have much. It is whether we provide enough to those who have little. " --Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by jg6544 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 10:06:53 AM PDT

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